Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-12 Thread Nora 
Hello,
Thanks for all the replies!
I've had a pretty bad experience with SnapDiff. We engaged IBM several times to 
help us sort out our NDMP backups, and all they could suggest was to use 
SnapDiff. So I tested it, and it turns out it cannot be used for NetApp in 
cluster mode! It can only be used for NetApp in 7-mode. So there goes SnapDiff, 
so we've had to depend on trying to run NDMP. That's why we're thinking of 
SnapVault now.

Richard, thanks for sharing your design. It is similar to what we are 
considering. Howevever we are thinking of just SnapMirroring the secondary 
SnapVault NetApp to the DR site. A couple of questions though:
- How do you do single file restores? As far as I understand snapvault works at 
qtree level, so what happens when you need to restore a file?
- Do you do any tape outs with SnapVault? Does it need to be scripted 
separately ?

Thanks!

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TEST

2013-11-12 Thread Tim Brown 
Test to ADSM-L

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2013-11-12 Thread Tim Brown 
TEST

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2013-11-12 Thread Tim Brown 
Test

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2013-11-12 Thread Tim Brown 
Can you send a test message to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU, I want to  see if I 
receive it.

Thanks,
Tim

Re: adsm-l

2013-11-12 Thread Swartz, Jerome 
Test!

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receive it.

Thanks,
Tim


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2013-11-12 Thread Jeanne Bruno 
Hello.  this is only a test.


Jeannie Bruno
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Central Hudson Gas & Electric
(845) 486-5780

Re: test

2013-11-12 Thread Nick Laflamme 
Isn't it also a demonstration?

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013, Jeanne Bruno wrote:

> Hello.  this is only a test.
>
> 
> Jeannie Bruno
> Senior Systems Analyst
> jbr...@cenhud.com 
> Central Hudson Gas & Electric
> (845) 486-5780
>

Re: test

2013-11-12 Thread Zoltan Forray 
Sounds like the problem I had back a while ago - I could post to the
newsgroup (hint for all you "test"-ers - go to
http://adsm.org/lists/html/ADSM-L/ and you will see ALL posts that make it
through to the listserver - including these "tests")  but inbound was
stuck/blocked/filtered somewhere down the line.

To prove/get around it, I used my personal Gmail account to subscribe and
everything was coming through there, just fine.

Eventually it cleared up on its own with no-one admitting to doing the
blocking or unblocking.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Nick Laflamme  wrote:

> Isn't it also a demonstration?
>
> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013, Jeanne Bruno wrote:
>
> > Hello.  this is only a test.
> >
> > 
> > Jeannie Bruno
> > Senior Systems Analyst
> > jbr...@cenhud.com 
> > Central Hudson Gas & Electric
> > (845) 486-5780
> >
>



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Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-12 Thread Richard Rhodes 
>Howevever we are thinking of just SnapMirroring the secondary SnapVault
NetApp to the DR site.

When working with consultants in setting the system up, we first thought
to snapmirror the production side snavault secondary to the DR site, but
then we started thinking (yea, thinking is hard).  In a DR we would have a
snapmirrored copy of production, and,  a snapmirrored snapvault copy,  but
there would be no tie between them.  We want the DR site to "just work".
THis meant we wanted the DR snapvault relationship to be working form the
DR copy of the data. (did any of that make sense?)

>A couple of questions though:
>- How do you do single file restores? As far as I understand snapvault
works at qtree level, so what happens when you need >to restore a file?

I wish I understood snapvault better.  It's my understanding is the same
as yours - it's only a qtree level restore.  What you would do is run
snapshots on the production volume (hourly, daily, weekly, whatever) from
which individual files could be restored (right click in windows, or, from
the snapshot dir), and, snapvault it to your snapvault filer for big
restores if needed.  Individual files could also be copied from a mounted
snapvaulted qtree.

The Toasters mailing list for NetApp systems can provide excellent help:
http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters


Rick








From:   Nora 
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:   11/12/2013 07:00 AM
Subject:Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?
Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 



Hello,
Thanks for all the replies!
I've had a pretty bad experience with SnapDiff. We engaged IBM several
times to help us sort out our NDMP backups, and all they could suggest was
to use SnapDiff. So I tested it, and it turns out it cannot be used for
NetApp in cluster mode! It can only be used for NetApp in 7-mode. So there
goes SnapDiff, so we've had to depend on trying to run NDMP. That's why
we're thinking of SnapVault now.

Richard, thanks for sharing your design. It is similar to what we are
considering. Howevever we are thinking of just SnapMirroring the secondary
SnapVault NetApp to the DR site. A couple of questions though:
- How do you do single file restores? As far as I understand snapvault
works at qtree level, so what happens when you need to restore a file?
- Do you do any tape outs with SnapVault? Does it need to be scripted
separately ?

Thanks!

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delete volhist

2013-11-12 Thread Marouf, Nick 
Hello,
Can someone maybe provide a bit more clarification on this technote?


http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21653710&myns=swgtiv&mynp=OCSSGSG7&mync=E

We generally set the DRM with SET DRMDBBACKUPEXPIREDAYS and then after tapes 
moved to vault for the day, run the following commands

delete volhist type=ALL todate=TODAY-180
delete volhist type=DBB todate=TODAY-3

Should I be concerned?


Thank You,
-Nick



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