HELP NEEDED ASAP!!

2006-12-07 Thread Dearman, Richard
One of oour main windows 2003 server crahsed today and the san disk it
turs out is corrupted and we need to restore 2TB of user files to a new
server.

The users cannot login to their workstations because this server is used
in our login process and each user maps a home directory to a share on
that server when they login.  I am in the process of creating a backupset
so the restore can go quickly but our management needs the users to at
least be able to login even if there data is not restored yet.

So if I start a restore will TSM recreate all the folders with permissions
first then start putting the data back last?  If we can get the folder
structure back first we can at least let people login.

Does anyone know if TSM will put the folder structure back first with
permissions?

Thanks


Re: Will TSM ever support BMR for windows systems?

2006-12-06 Thread Dearman, Richard
I don't know what method you are for a BMR recovery but I have used what
most people in this list suggest.  I simply reinstall the OS (from and
install cd or image using something like altiris or nlite) then install
the TSM client then restore C: drive files and then registry and reboot.
Which works MOST of the Time but I need something that works ALL THE
TIME.  I have a windows server now that this process does not work for
and I am getting lots of flak for it and now they are considering moving
to another software that does support BMR for windows systems.

I am in constant arguments with management and they want to know, why
can't tivoli do what altiris does?  Simply restore an image from a
backup of the os from boot to the same exact same server without having
to reinstall the os.  Dissimilar hardware isn't even a concern for them
because they are will to require same hardware in their DR plan.  

Besides I don't see why TSM can perform a snapshot image backup of the
local system drive of a windows server but you can't restore from it and
actually use it to boot another system. Networker claims they have BMR
for windows system built into their product so why doesn't Tivoli.   

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Mark Stapleton
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:02 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Will TSM ever support BMR for windows systems?

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Schaub, Steve

Well, it's also a big pain in the tush for me to explain to mgmt why
I'm

budgeting for a BMR tool for our 600 Windows servers even though we

already hand over a boatload of $$ to Tivoli for a backup product,

because I have to have something I can depend on to perform dissimilar

hardware restores.

 

I've talked about this on this list more than a few times, but I'll
repeat it for our new folks:

 

**

You can use TSM to perform bare-metal restores of Windows machines, to
similar and to dissimilar hardware.

**

 

It is a pretty straight-forward process for identical hardware, and
dissimilar hardware merely requires a little file-shuffling during the
rebuild process. I've performed BMR using nothing but a modified Windows
boot CD, nLite http://www.nliteos.com/  (donate to those folks--their
code's great!) and a copy of the TSM client code.

 

I just don't think it could be that difficult for Tivoli to come up
with

a boot cd like they use for ServerGuide that is TSM aware and capable

of hardware detection.

 

It's not Tivoli's go to create CDs to facilitate alternate-boot disks
for various OSs. IBM already has that process down cold for AIX.
Similarly, Sun for Solaris and HP for HP-UX. For Windows, Microsoft
developed WinPE, and BartPE is out there for Windows as well.

 

It can be done, folks. It's not that hard.

 

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Senior TSM consultant

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Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

2006-12-06 Thread Dearman, Richard
I have a Sepaton VTL and it has helped us tremendously to meet our
requirements.  Although the VTL did help reduce our backup window by over
70% and we have sustained backup speeds of 150MB/s and I have seen them
has high has 300MB/s.  You are going to need to reconfigure the way your
clients backup for example you may need to reconfigure your db2 client for
better disk read performance and send data using multiple TSM sessions
most of the time the client is the bottle neck.  Then you should start
looking at your TSM server, we had to implement aggregate multiple gig
network cards just to handle the client throughput.  You may also need to
implement multiple san cards to your disk storage or vtl to get the
required throughput.

In my experience with vtl's they do write much faster than regular disk
pools and tape drives.  We use TS1120 drives and I was not able to get
better throughput to my tape drives than I am getting to the VTL. And the
tape drives are supposed to be faster.


On Wed, December 6, 2006 4:41 pm, Kelly Lipp wrote:
 Your best bet is to always wait for the more cogent description of the
 solution before proceeding.  You can always count on Wanda to clean up
 my mess!

 In fact, I think I'll steal this as it is a very concise description of
 when/why you might consider a VTL.  Perhaps the most concise description
 written...

 Thanks,


 Kelly J. Lipp
 VP Manufacturing  CTO
 STORServer, Inc.
 485-B Elkton Drive
 Colorado Springs, CO 80907
 719-266-8777
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Prather, Wanda
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:09 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What
 Vendors are you using for Virtual Tape?

 I concur with Kelly's evaluation.

 Where VTL's really shine:
   -On restores of multiple files (like restoring a large directory
 of small files),
no tape mounts are required, even if data is not
 collocated
  -Since you don't need to collocate, migration and on-site
 reclamation are much faster.
   -Reclamation of offsite tapes is MUCH faster, as the input tape
 mounts are eliminated

 But most VTL's on the market are made with SATA disk, which are at the
 low end of disk performance.  Depending on the vendor, model,
 configuration, and your client hardware, backup  restores from VTL's of
 a SINGLE LARGE FILE file may not be any faster than (fast) tape.  And
 then there is the question of how fast your SERVER can push data (most
 of my customers don't have servers yet that are capable of pushing LTO3
 drives at full speed!)

 So you need to REALLY figure out where your bottleneck is before you
 decide how to fix it.

 -If what is causing you to run slowly is MOUNT times, you need a VTL.

 -If what is causing you to run too slow is WRITE time, and your write
 speed/sec is already up to LTO2 speed (30-35MB/sec), it may be more
 cost-effective to drop in LTO3 drives, which are more than twice as
 fast. (75-80MB/sec for IBM LTO3).

 -if what is causing you to run too slow is WRITE time, and your write
 speed/sec is less than 30-35MB/sec, it isn't the LTO tape that's causing
 your problem -  your bottleneck is somewhere else! (like your server DB,
 your network, your diskpool, the client etc.).

 That being said, implementing a VTL is very easy and has many benefits.
 However, if you decide to go with a VTL, MAKE SURE you get a commitment
 from the vendor of how many MB/sec SUSTAINED throughput they support, so
 you have an idea just how fast you can push AND /pull  1 TB of data IN A
 SINGLE LARGE FILE.  There are a lot of VTL's on the market, and they all
 have different throughput ratings.

 Wanda Prather
 I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O  -(me)





 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Kelly Lipp
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:36 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: Survey Question for Virtual Tape Users: What Vendors are
 you using for Virtual Tape?

 Based on your config I'm guessing you're having trouble completing the
 backup stg operations due to the fact that you get a single large
 process running to a single tape drive (or tape to tape) and that's
 taking too long.

 I would suggest using the copystg parameter on the primary tape pool and
 have that large database go directly to the primary and copy pool tapes
 simultaneously.  That will eliminate the need to do the backup stg
 tapepool copypool operation during daily processing.  I would also
 backup stg diskpool copypool before I migrate.  Again, the goal, I
 assume, is to get the backup stg operations completed as early as
 possible.

 So in summary:

 1. Large stuff goes directly to tapepool with copystgpool set to
 copypool.  You have plenty of tape drives so there should not be any
 conflict during the backup.
 2. backup stg diskpool copypool maxproc=10 (or 

Will TSM ever support BMR for windows systems?

2006-12-05 Thread Dearman, Richard
Does anyone know if Tivoli is working on a product that will support BMR
on windows systems.  I know Cristie can be used but I don't want another
third party product and ASR recovery on Win2003 takes forever.  You
would think that TSM would be able to clone or ghost a windows system at
least.


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Re: VTL Sepaton vs SUN/STK(FalconStor)

2006-08-13 Thread Dearman, Richard
I spoke with sepaton, emc, copan, IBM, and sun over the course of 4 months
starting in Jan. of 2006.  I choose to go with sepaton for a number of
reasons: they scale by size and PERFORMANCE (which is something none of
the others could match), price was good and maint. was reasonable, roadmap
for future products was excellent and wasn't dependent on what falconstor
was doing, and I liked the way they approached doing large block I/0.  All
the vendors accept sepaton just ran falconstor on their hardware and I
didn't like that approach. Copan I believe didn't use falconstor but their
unit was so heavy that it couldn't sit on a raised floor in the datacenter
if it was full. Sepaton was the only pure VTL vendor meaning that VTLs
were all they focused on. I have not had any problems since the
installation 3-4 months ago and like I tell others the sepaton vtl has
literally given my life back meaning that I am not checking TSM every
few hours daily even while on vacation anymore.  I don't want to sound
like an ad campaign for sepaton but in my opinion their leading the pack
and their support team is excellent as well.


On Fri, August 11, 2006 3:02 pm, Larry Peifer wrote:
 We've narrowed down our search for a VTL appliance to use with TSM to the
 2 subject vendors.  I'd like to hear the pros/ cons from the TSM users
 community on their experiences with these devices:   Reliability, vendor
 service, performance etc.   All comments welcomed.

 Larry Peifer
 TSM / AIX Administrator



Can 64bit TSM client on 64 bit os overcome backing up large filesytems??

2006-06-26 Thread Dearman, Richard
I am having problems backing up a large filesystem on a win2003k server.
The backup is failing because its running out of memory which IBM says
is because of the 32bit os limitation.  Tried journaling but the server
is very busy and continuously gets buffer overflows and the journal
fails and I have tried tuning it as well but it still fails.  I have not
tried the image snapshot backup but I don't trust doing it on a 1 TB
windows filesystem.  So I was thinking of upgrading the server to
win2003k 64bit and loading the tsm 64bit client to backup the server to
overcome the 32 bit limitations. 

 

Do any of you guys see a problem with that or will I still have the same
problems as before?


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Re: VTL Cartridge Sizing

2006-05-25 Thread Dearman, Richard
I would suggest don't worry to much about cartridge size more on the
number of cartridges.  I have 100+ clients backup directly to the vtl
daily so I created a larger number of tape devices and 200 100GB
cartridges.  I migrated the data daily after the nightly backups.


On Thu, May 25, 2006 12:14 pm, Baughman, Ray wrote:
 We will be installing a VTL in the next Month, and can specify any size
 of Cartridge we want.  Does anyone have any recommendations on sizing?


 Ray Baughman
 TSM  Engineering Systems Administrator
 National Machinery LLC
 Phone 419-443-2257
 Fax 419-443-2376
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Diskextender vs TSM HSM for Windows

2006-02-20 Thread Dearman, Richard
I need to do some HSM on a windows systems we have and was wondering if
anyone has any experiences with these products and could provide me with
some feedback on them.

 

Thanks in advance


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Re: VTL experiences?

2006-01-05 Thread Dearman, Richard
 files off tape to disk but we may have been seeing 2:1 or
3:1 compression with those small files on tape. A 1:1 of disk can be
costly but when you use virtualized hardware compression behind a CDL it
may make things more cost effective if you get 2:1 or 3:1 for small
files.
   
  

Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:42:29 -0600, Dearman, Richard said:

 Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.
I
 was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
 current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage. There are
 several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
 My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
 has been in the market longer.

Would you be willing to expound on why you'd prefer sticking disk
behind a VTL volume virtualizer, instead of sticking it behind a
DEVCLASS=FILE volume virtualizer? I would default in the other
direction, so I'm interested in your thinking.


- Allen S. Rout
  



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VTL experiences?

2006-01-04 Thread Dearman, Richard
Anyone out there have any good or bad experiences with VTL solutions.  I
was thinking about budgeting for 1 or 2 in order to phase out the
current san file system I am using for TSM disk storage.  There are
several vendors out there with VTL solutions most notably IBM and EMC.
My first choice would be to choose IBM but it is a new product and EMC
has been in the market longer.

 

Any comment or recommendation appreciated.

 

Thanks


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Re: VTS or san disk storage

2005-11-30 Thread Dearman, Richard
Your situation sounds even worse than mine.  When I lose a lun I only
lose that particular lun.  Other systems and luns on the controller are
still functional.  Although in order to get that lun back I must
shutdown every system connected to the controller then reboot the
controller and the lun comes back.  I was told later by HP that the
controller can only handle 6-9 I/O requests per lun per second.  I am
looking for other storage units that can handle more requests than that.
I noticed that I don't have this problem with IBM storage at least the
ssa's we don't have any IBM san storage.

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Tab Trepagnier
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage

Richard,

I share your pain.

We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN.  We have found that AIX in general,
and
TSM in particular, can just hose the sucker.

Your observations about write cache were echoed by EMC.  We had to turn
off write-cache on our TSM disk pool LUNs because the SAN storage
processors couldn't keep up with the incoming data rate and manage the
cache at the same time.

In our case, it manifested itself as a total network freeze!

Once our TSM server - a 2-way 6H1 - started writing to our five-disk
RAID-3 LUNs, the I/O would hog the SAN so that no other servers - like
our
domain controllers - would get any disk access.  Disk queue length on
the
DCs went to 50+.  With the DCs locked out of the disks, they couldn't
process DNS lookups, logins, etc. so our Active Directory LAN just hung.
The odd thing is that all our TSM disks are in their own disk pod; the
only thing shared between TSM and the remainder of the servers was the
internal fiber loops and the SPs.  There was no disk contention between
TSM and anything else.

We duplicated the problem when creating disk volumes in TSM.  We
duplicated the problem when our Windows-based Domino servers backed up
to
SAN-based disk pools.  We duplicated the problem when we copied a large
database from one Oracle server to another; both with data volumes on
the
SAN.  All of this occurred at data rates of about 50-55 MB/s.  We use
RAID-3 for TSM disk pools and RAID-5 for everything else.

With the write cache turned off we get more like 12 MB/s streaming to a
five-disk RAID-3 array.

So with TSM using the SAN as a major storage resource, we've had to give
up performance and reliability.  On the upside, at least it's only three
times as expensive as  tape!

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.









ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/29/2005
09:48:08 AM:

 I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the
 management of it is just a pain.  For instance if you are using a
vendor
 such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is
 not the greatest.  We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage
 controllers.  TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the
 particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be
 rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the
 reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all
the
 data on that lun.  I have run into this problem many times over the
past
 few years.  HP says disable caching at the controller level which may
 work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option.

 You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would
 run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you
 commit to it because I have had this problem with other san storage
 units as well.  We also keep disk storage in multiple locations across
 campus via long haul san connections which mean multiple luns to
manage
 and many filesystems which if you are in an HACMP configuration takes
 time for failover to occur and filesystem mounts to take place.

 In conclusion make sure what ever storage you choose is reliable and
 able to handle the high I/O load tsm will can on it.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
 Paul Zarnowski
 Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:40 AM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage

 At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote:
 We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily
 backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape
libraries.
 The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...]

 I am curious what kind of problems you are running into.  At the TSM
 Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to
 further develop the serial access disk support in TSM.  And, TSM 5.3
 just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple
 filesystems.  After hearing this, we have been leaning towards
 investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL
 appliance.  I'm interested in other's comments

Re: VTS or san disk storage

2005-11-29 Thread Dearman, Richard
I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the
management of it is just a pain.  For instance if you are using a vendor
such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is
not the greatest.  We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage
controllers.  TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the
particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be
rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the
reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all the
data on that lun.  I have run into this problem many times over the past
few years.  HP says disable caching at the controller level which may
work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option.  

You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would
run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you
commit to it because I have had this problem with other san storage
units as well.  We also keep disk storage in multiple locations across
campus via long haul san connections which mean multiple luns to manage
and many filesystems which if you are in an HACMP configuration takes
time for failover to occur and filesystem mounts to take place.

In conclusion make sure what ever storage you choose is reliable and
able to handle the high I/O load tsm will can on it.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Zarnowski
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:40 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage

At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote:
We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily
backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries.
The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...]

I am curious what kind of problems you are running into.  At the TSM
Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to
further develop the serial access disk support in TSM.  And, TSM 5.3
just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple
filesystems.  After hearing this, we have been leaning towards
investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL
appliance.  I'm interested in other's comments about where,
specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM.

..Paul



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VTS or san disk storage

2005-11-23 Thread Dearman, Richard
We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily
backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries.
The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of
replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from
EMC.   Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and
have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had
good or bad experiences with them.

 

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TSM client 2GB memory limitation?

2005-10-27 Thread Dearman, Richard
According to APAR IC46817 the TSM client has a limitation on 32 bit
windows platform of only using 2GB of memory and backing up 1 million
files uses approx. 300MB of memory so 7million+ files will causes the
TSM client to shutdown since the 2GB limit will be reached.  I have a
system with 15 million+ files and directories on one file system.  If I
upgrade this system to 64bit Windows and use the 64bit TSM client will
that over come the 2GB limitation?  I know online snapshot is another
option but I am not sure how that would work on a 300GB SAN volume.


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How big of a TSM DB is too big?

2005-10-25 Thread Dearman, Richard
My TSM database is currently 150GB and I am wondering if I should start
thinking about a second server.  Other than the DB being so large
nothing else is wrong.

 

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Re: How big of a TSM DB is too big?

2005-10-25 Thread Dearman, Richard
I run Expiration from 6am to 5pm daily and it usually completes about 2
or 3 times a week.  Database backups are no problem.

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I'm curious to find out how long your expiration job runs and the number
of times you run it per week.

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Tivoli Continuous Data Protection for Files

2005-10-04 Thread Dearman, Richard
Has anyone used   Tivoli Continuous Data Protection for Files product
on a file server with a very large amount of files and directories. I
have a server with millions of files and directories that I can not get
backed because the TSM client either runs out of memory and shuts down
trying to do an incremental, I tried journaling but it keeps failing as
well.  This product seems to be journaling continuously which would be
good so the journal would not fill up and fail but can it complete the
initial filesytem backup.

 

 

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Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

2005-06-20 Thread Dearman, Richard
I'm having the same problem has everyone else.  Our imaging system is
going to be 30millioin+ files over 3 disks and 2TB by the end on the
year.  I was going to attempt to use a snapshot image backup of each
filesystem which is on a Win2k server.  Has anyone tried this before on
a server of this size and were you successful?  I'm not very confident
on doing this on the windows platform.

I understand the problems associated with backing up a server with
millions of files and a badly written application that stores everything
in one place on one drive but I need a solution.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ted Byrne
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:57 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

I would second Bill's addition of poorly-architected applications to
Richard's list of issues that should be (but are often not) addressed,
or
even considered.  At another customer, we and the customer's sysadmins
were
bedeviled by a weblog analysis application (which shall remain nameless)
that chose to store its data on the filesystem, using the date of the
log
data as a directory under which the data was stored (as well as the
associated reports, I believe).  The explanation we were given was that
they had chosen to do this for application performance reasons; it was
apparently quicker that using a DBMS.

This decision, although it made random access of data quicker, had
horrible
implications for backup as the log data and reports accumulated over
time;
recovery was even worse.  Aggravating the situation was the insistence
by
the application owner that ALL historical log data absolutely had to
be
maintained in this inside-out database format.  Just getting a count of
files and directories on this drive (via selecting Properties from the
context menu) took something on the order of 9 hours to complete.  The
volume of data, in GB, was really not that large - something on the
order
of 100 GB.  All of their problems managing the data stemmed entirely
from
the large number of files and directories.

When the time came to replace the server hardware and upgrade the
application, they had extreme difficulty migrating the historical data
from
the old server to the new.  They did finally succeeded in copying the
data
from the old server to the new, but it took days and days of
around-the-clock network traffic to complete.

Addressing the ramifications of this type of design decision after the
fact
is difficult at best.  If at all possible, we need to prevent it from
occurring in the first place.

Ted

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Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

2005-06-20 Thread Dearman, Richard
Did you setup separate node names for each directory or drive?  Or did
you use the same node name for each schedule.  And are you doing
memoryefficient backups on those schedules and is resoureutilization set
to more than 2 for each schedule?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lepre, James
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:20 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

We have had the same problem with our Siebel system.  We have a system
with over 25 million files in it and what we did was break it up.  We
have multiple schedule running for individual directories.  For example
 Dir1\*.* has 3 million files in it, make it one schedule
 Dir2\*.* has 4.5 million files in it make it 2nd schedule and so on



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dearman, Richard
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:09 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

I'm having the same problem has everyone else.  Our imaging system is
going to be 30millioin+ files over 3 disks and 2TB by the end on the
year.  I was going to attempt to use a snapshot image backup of each
filesystem which is on a Win2k server.  Has anyone tried this before on
a server of this size and were you successful?  I'm not very confident
on doing this on the windows platform.

I understand the problems associated with backing up a server with
millions of files and a badly written application that stores everything
in one place on one drive but I need a solution.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ted Byrne
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:57 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

I would second Bill's addition of poorly-architected applications to
Richard's list of issues that should be (but are often not) addressed,
or
even considered.  At another customer, we and the customer's sysadmins
were
bedeviled by a weblog analysis application (which shall remain nameless)
that chose to store its data on the filesystem, using the date of the
log
data as a directory under which the data was stored (as well as the
associated reports, I believe).  The explanation we were given was that
they had chosen to do this for application performance reasons; it was
apparently quicker that using a DBMS.

This decision, although it made random access of data quicker, had
horrible
implications for backup as the log data and reports accumulated over
time;
recovery was even worse.  Aggravating the situation was the insistence
by
the application owner that ALL historical log data absolutely had to
be
maintained in this inside-out database format.  Just getting a count of
files and directories on this drive (via selecting Properties from the
context menu) took something on the order of 9 hours to complete.  The
volume of data, in GB, was really not that large - something on the
order
of 100 GB.  All of their problems managing the data stemmed entirely
from
the large number of files and directories.

When the time came to replace the server hardware and upgrade the
application, they had extreme difficulty migrating the historical data
from
the old server to the new.  They did finally succeeded in copying the
data
from the old server to the new, but it took days and days of
around-the-clock network traffic to complete.

Addressing the ramifications of this type of design decision after the
fact
is difficult at best.  If at all possible, we need to prevent it from
occurring in the first place.

Ted

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Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

2005-06-16 Thread Dearman, Richard
Wouldn't the backup take close to the same amount of time has using one
mount point.  Because the TSM client on that one server still had to go
through 15 million files whether its doing it in one session or 10
sessions.

I am experiencing the same problem of an imaging system.  I am trying to
go the snapshot image route of the 12 millions 300Gb of files and
sending them to disk storage pool then off to 3592 tapes nightly.  It
will grow to 1Tb of the next year.  I'm not sure how imaging will work
on such a large file system.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
TSM_User
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:32 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A reply was sent
back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this
thought.

If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only
use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive.  Have a
server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:)  Then use mount points
to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\.  The application will then use
the D:\ alone.  Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives.

For details on how to set this up you need to consult the Microsoft doc.
There is plenty on MS's website.

Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the
drives and mount points.  Then move the folders under those mount
points.

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Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

2005-06-16 Thread Dearman, Richard
Yes, but the long backup time is because of the time it takes the TSM
client to query the TSM database for backup file candidates and not due
to the actual movement of files from the client to the TSM server.  So
how pulling from 10 separate drives increase the query speed.

For instance it takes hours and GB of memory on my client for the client
to query the TSM server for file info for 15 million files even though
the actual backup will end up being 11,000 files consisting of 300mb.
And the backup take over 17+ hours to complete.  This is running from a
GigE connection with my client with 4 cpus and 6GB of memory although it
is Win2k.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Stapleton, Mark
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

No, because you're pulling data off of 10 separate physical drives. It's
likely to be significantly faster.

--
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IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
  Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX
Office 262.521.5627

 

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Dearman, Richard
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:46 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

Wouldn't the backup take close to the same amount of time has using one
mount point.  Because the TSM client on that one server still had to go
through 15 million files whether its doing it in one session or 10
sessions.

I am experiencing the same problem of an imaging system.  I am 
trying to
go the snapshot image route of the 12 millions 300Gb of files and
sending them to disk storage pool then off to 3592 tapes nightly.  It
will grow to 1Tb of the next year.  I'm not sure how imaging will work
on such a large file system.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of
TSM_User
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:32 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: 15,000,000 + files on one directory backup

I replied to the list about using windows mount points. A 
reply was sent
back about it being the opposit of what they wanted. Well I had this
thought.

If you have an imaging system (or any other application) that can only
use one drive letter why not use mount points for that drive.  Have a
server with 10 drives with 100 GB each (D: - M:)  Then use mount points
to get all 1 TB of space behind the D:\.  The application will then use
the D:\ alone.  Mean while you can run the backup on all 10 drives.

For details on how to set this up you need to consult the 
Microsoft doc.
There is plenty on MS's website.

Of course if the system is already setup then you'd need to add the
drives and mount points.  Then move the folders under those mount
points.

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How to automate inserting client info into the DR module.

2005-03-02 Thread Dearman, Richard
I have a mixture of unix and windows clients and I am now implementing
the DR module and would like a scripted method to insert the clients
info into TSM.  I have a script to get the info from the unix clients
but not one for the windows clients.  Do any of you have any scripts or
experiences with automating this process you can share with me.

 

Thanks


TSM 5.3 is available for download from IBM from the Passport Adav antage download site.

2004-12-17 Thread Dearman, Richard
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Issues with AIX 5.1.0.7 and TSM 5.2.2.4

2004-10-25 Thread Dearman, Richard
I upgraded from aix 5.1.0.4 to 5.1.0.7 and now when my clients connected
they backup one at a time even if the storage pools for that client is empty
they only backup one at a time.  Have anyone seen this before I have clients
connected from last night just hanging in tsm.
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2004-09-14 Thread Dearman, Richard
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3494 questions

2004-06-21 Thread Dearman, Richard
I'm having some problems trying to keep my 3494 library volumes consistent
with TSM.  I have a lot of volumes in TSM that are unavailable which I
cann't checkin because they are in the library but TSM set them to
unavailable.  I usually have to run set the unavailables back to readw
then run and audit on them.  Does anyone have an script to do this before I
start writing one.

Thanks
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Journaling Service on Win2k

2004-06-08 Thread Dearman, Richard
I have few home directory server with about 250GB of data about 5-6million
small files with about 23,000 file changes per day.  My backups without
journaling are taking 33-40hours.  Which is why I want to implement
journaling service.  Do any of you guys out there who are currently using
journaling have any advice before I turn it on.

Thanks
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Restoring a Win2k server

2004-04-07 Thread Dearman, Richard
I'm running TSM 5.2.2 on Aix and I have a client that is a Win2k server
which we use as a print server.  I tried a test restore by just building a
win2k server and loading TSM client 5.2 on it and restoring from a backup
set.  I did a backup of the original print server first including system
objects before I tried restoring to the test server.  They both are the same
hardware but when the restore complete I rebooted the server and now the
keyboard and mouse won't work.



Basically,  does anyone have a good method of restoring a Win2k os.  I know
that an os restore is possible with win2003 and xp but what about win2k.
The documentation seems to be very simple on this subject.



Thanks

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Slow backup performance

2004-01-29 Thread Dearman, Richard
I backup 10 win2k servers all with about 150GB of files consisting of 5
million+ files and about 14,000 files change per day per server.  With the
current 5.2 tsm client loaded it is taking about 25+ hours to backup.  Is
there anyway to speed this up?  I tried LVSA and it didn't work because the
agent needs an idle period of time before it can take the snap shot which
these servers are always busy and our Win2k servers use HP secure path to
access san storage.  And the LVSA agent seems to cause the system to hang
while trying to perform a snap shot on the san disk.  I was thinking of
using Journaling.  Is that a good option for this kind of setup.



Thanks

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Exclude.dir statements

2004-01-13 Thread Dearman, Richard
I want to exclude some directories from being backed up so I can stop the
file backup failure notifications I get.  So I created the following server
client opt statement and assigned it to the options set of this client but
it doesn't appear to be working.  I don't set my client opts in the dsm.opt
files on each client I try to make them server defined client opts just to
have a central place to control things.



Here is the client option statement I am using but it doesn't appear to be
working because I keep getting messages about file backup failures for that
directory.  The drive it is trying to backup is a local drive so I don't now
why the UNC path is showing in the error log





Exclude.dir *:\...\logcaster\*





Here is the message I keep getting.





01/13/2004 01:38:41 ANS4037E File '\\uimcc21\c$\Program Files\LogCaster
CME\bin\service_watcher_home\PerfDB\14\UIMCC21\2004\01\13.lpf' changed
during processing.  File skipped.

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Re: 2 fibre interfaces per drive

2003-11-19 Thread Dearman, Richard
The tape driver does the switching from active to standby path.  Tsm doesn't
know anything about the paths it just sees the device /dev/rmt*

I have 4 3590E driver with dual fiber attachments.  Although you must be
using IBM SAN adapters to user this functionality or the aix server will see
an rmt device for each path.  I use cambex adapters since we are use and hp
san network.  My aix server sees one drive with 2 paths as 2 separate
devices.  So I wrote a script to that monitors the path and if it fails to
go into tsm and change the device to the path of the other rmt device.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2 fibre interfaces per drive

Hi everyone!

We are in the process of formulating an AIX environment instead of our
current MVS TSM environment.  We would have 2 TSM servers (one being the
library manager) with 2 directors, 8 lan-free clients and 24 tape drives,
which we hope to share between the 2 TSM servers.  We would like to have 2
fibre interfaces per drive in order to eliminate a single point of failure.
My question is, how does TSM know which path it is using to the drive and
how does it know that one of the paths to an individual drive is already in
use?  Is there software out there to manage this or is it done through the
hardware configuration?  If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate
it!  Thanks!


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Re: Anyone using OTG DiskXtender?

2003-10-14 Thread Dearman, Richard
I tried it a couple of years ago and it was terrible.  What version of
Diskextender are you running?  What os and version of TSM are you running?

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Justin Case [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone using OTG DiskXtender?

FYIYes I am running DiskXtenderon a Windows powered (w2k) Nas 300G with 11
million files and I am not Pleased
at all with the response times when we have to fetch files from tape. Using
Tivoli Storage Manger ion the back end,
have been running it for about 2 years.

Justin Case
Duke University
919 684-3421




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I have a client that wants to install DiskXtender on a Windows2000 server.
Anyone have experience doing/running this? Pitfalls..things to look out
for???

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DB volume copies offline

2003-06-09 Thread Dearman, Richard
Some of my database volume copies are showing offline.  How do I set them
back to online.



Thanks

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Cancel All Processes

2003-03-25 Thread Dearman, Richard
Does anyone have a script to cancel all process?  For example you can
cancel sess all to cancel all sessions but there is no cancel proc all
command.  So there must be a scripting way of doing this.



THanks

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Aix Client 5.1 restore problems

2003-03-11 Thread Dearman, Richard
I am restoring a filesystem to from one aix unix server to another and using
the 5.1 client.  The filesystem is named /hci under it is a directory called
/hci/install.3.5.2P but everytime I do a restore it creates two directories
called /hci/install.3.5.2P and /hci/install.3.5.2p   as you can see the p
in the directory name is changed case.  The files are then split up between
those two directories.  Does anyone know how to prevent this from happening.

Thanks
Richard
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Anyone doing 1TB+ Backup Nightly

2003-02-21 Thread Dearman, Richard
I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours.  A large part of our
backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM.  The database backups up
over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4
processors.   The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb SAN
connection (I went with stripe sets because RAID5 was just to slow).  I'm
getting high iowat times on my AIX TSM server.  I'm having a hard time
pinpointing exactly where the bottleneck is at.  Currently it takes 51/2
hours to backup 500GB but I know it can be better.

My question is are any of you that are moving this amount of data faster
than me using a more powerful server like a IBM 690.

THanks
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TSM 5.2 Question

2003-02-12 Thread Dearman, Richard
Does anyone know if TSM 5.2 will have any BMR capabilities build into it for
unix and/or windows clients.  Or should I assume that it will never happen
and purchase Baremetal Restore from veritas.



Thanks

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MediaW

2003-02-05 Thread Dearman, Richard
My storage pools filled up causing by backups to go into a mediaw state
waiting for a tape drive to free up.  My tape drives were busy migrating
data to free space in my storage pools.   Is there anyway to force the
client sessions out of the mediaw and to start sending data to my disk
storage pool again now that they are empty.



Thanks

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Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

2002-12-30 Thread Dearman, Richard
If you use Jumbo Frames at the client, tsm server and switches.  You will
see a higher through put with a lot less cpu utilization.  I my experience
the biggest problem with backup speed is the client is the bottle neck.
Either it cann't read from its disk fast enough to support gig speeds or the
client cpu cann't process the data fast enough.  Usually with a P660 with
4x750's processors, and multiple HBA's connected to your SAN that tsm server
won't be the problem.

-Original Message-
From: Antonio J Pires [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Hi,

Can we use 2 or more gigabit interfaces to increase backup bandwidth?
Any experience on this approach?

Thanks in advance,
António Pires



 

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I agree.  However, to my knowledge that is either the default for the P660
offering or there is no way to set it.  We use hardware on our Windows
machines.  Even then, you have to process the packet queues and when moving
70MB/sec of 1500 byte packets, it takes some resources.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Consider using NIC's with TCP Offload Engines (TOE'S)- this should help
with
CPU utilization.

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 27, 2002 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

For some reason we forget that IP packet processing on the client and
server
take a lot of CPU resources.  Check your CPU utilization on both to see
what
is happening.  My experience is a 450mhz x 4 P660 can process maximum of
about 7 kb/sec.  When we had only one gigabit interface that is what it
ran at and also with 2 gigabit interfaces in total.  In both cases the CPU
goes to 100 percent and no more packets can be processed.

It can also be a client issue if they do not have enough CPU to push the
data to the server.

This is the place LANFREE comes into play.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


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From: Conko, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet speed


anybody have any tips on what type of Network transfer rate we should be
seeing for our backups over gigabit ethernet? the clients backup via copper
Gb ethernet dedicated for backups to a tsm server connected to a 3494 tape
library with 10 3590 tape drives via fibre channel/brocade switch.

there is only one client on one gigabit interface and 3 on another.

any tips for improving network performance?

thanks

Steven A. Conko
Senior Unix Systems Administrator
ADT Security Services, Inc.


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Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

2002-12-30 Thread Dearman, Richard
It could help but like I said most clients aren't tuned for optimum backup
performance.  Meaning the disk configuration strategy is't setup for optimum
reads and it cann't keep up with gig speeds.  If the client is a production
server then not only is it processing the backup, it has to do whatever it
was built for as well.  So you have two applications battling for resources
at the client.  The tsm server only has one thing going on an thats backups.
If you change resource utilization you could get some jump in throughput but
at the same time the other app running on that client will suffer.  Is it
really worth it? Maybe in your environment but thats your call.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


What about upping the RESOURCEUTILIZATION?  Will this not increase through
put?

Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International
WWJD


 

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If you use Jumbo Frames at the client, tsm server and switches.  You will
see a higher through put with a lot less cpu utilization.  I my experience
the biggest problem with backup speed is the client is the bottle neck.
Either it cann't read from its disk fast enough to support gig speeds or
the
client cpu cann't process the data fast enough.  Usually with a P660 with
4x750's processors, and multiple HBA's connected to your SAN that tsm
server
won't be the problem.

-Original Message-
From: Antonio J Pires [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Hi,

Can we use 2 or more gigabit interfaces to increase backup bandwidth?
Any experience on this approach?

Thanks in advance,
António Pires





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I agree.  However, to my knowledge that is either the default for the P660
offering or there is no way to set it.  We use hardware on our Windows
machines.  Even then, you have to process the packet queues and when moving
70MB/sec of 1500 byte packets, it takes some resources.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-Original Message-
From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Consider using NIC's with TCP Offload Engines (TOE'S)- this should help
with
CPU utilization.

-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 27, 2002 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

For some reason we forget that IP packet processing on the client and
server
take a lot of CPU resources.  Check your CPU utilization on both to see
what
is happening.  My experience is a 450mhz x 4 P660 can process maximum of
about 7 kb/sec.  When we had only one gigabit interface that is what it
ran at and also with 2 gigabit interfaces in total.  In both cases the CPU
goes to 100 percent and no more packets can be processed.

It can also be a client issue if they do not have enough CPU to push the
data to the server.

This is the place LANFREE comes into play.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-Original Message-
From: Conko, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet speed


anybody have any tips on what type of Network transfer rate we should be
seeing for our backups over gigabit ethernet? the clients backup via copper
Gb ethernet dedicated for backups to a tsm server connected to a 3494 tape
library with 10 3590 tape drives via fibre channel/brocade switch.

there is only one client on one gigabit interface and 3 on another.

any tips for improving network performance?

thanks

Steven A. Conko
Senior Unix Systems

Problems with 5.1.5.2

2002-11-13 Thread Dearman, Richard
I am running tsm 5.1.5.2 on AIX 5.1.0.2 both are running in 64bit mode.
After I upgraded to 5.1.5.2 every morning I have a few sessions that are
running extremely slow at 20k/s.  They start out fine at night running at
40MB/s on the private gig network setup for the two servers.  Before they
would complete backup at 3:20am now it just seems to hang and stay in a recw
mode receiving data very slowly.

Any body experiencing anything like this?

Thanks

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Re: Problems with 5.1.5.2

2002-11-13 Thread Dearman, Richard
My clients are vms, aix and nt.  They all seem to be having the same
problem.  I'm going to go back up 32bit mode today and see how it runs
tonight.

-Original Message-
From: David E Ehresman [mailto:deehre01;LOUISVILLE.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with 5.1.5.2


Are these NT/W2K clients?  What level of TSM did you upgrade from?  We
are seeing a similar problem at tsm 5.1.1.0 on AIX 5.1.0.0 with both
server and aix in 64 bit mode.  I have an open issue with Tivoli  (PMR
68765,082) and I'm waiting on a client to get back from vacation so we
can run a trace during backup.

David

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I am running tsm 5.1.5.2 on AIX 5.1.0.2 both are running in 64bit
mode.
After I upgraded to 5.1.5.2 every morning I have a few sessions that
are
running extremely slow at 20k/s.  They start out fine at night running
at
40MB/s on the private gig network setup for the two servers.  Before
they
would complete backup at 3:20am now it just seems to hang and stay in a
recw
mode receiving data very slowly.

Any body experiencing anything like this?

Thanks

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Any fixes for 5.1.5.1 ????

2002-11-07 Thread Dearman, Richard
Does anyone know of any fixes for 5.1.5.1?  Are there any on the way from
IBM or what.  This version is terrible.  I have backups running 10hrs longer
than normal.

thanks

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Re: Any fixes for 5.1.5.1 ????

2002-11-07 Thread Dearman, Richard
Where can I get 5.1.5.2.  I'm willing to try anything.  Because this version
5.1.5.1. screws up alot of things.


-Original Message-
From: MC Matt Cooper (2838) [mailto:Matt.Cooper;AMGREETINGS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Any fixes for 5.1.5.1 


What did you convert from?   I am on 5.1.1.4 and was told to go to 5.1.5.2
to correct performance problems   I noticed doing backups and migrations
at the same time makes the machine thrash so it does neither very fast and
runs the CPU UP big time.
Matt

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Subject:Any fixes for 5.1.5.1 

Does anyone know of any fixes for 5.1.5.1?  Are there any on the way from
IBM or what.  This version is terrible.  I have backups running 10hrs longer
than normal.

thanks

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Slow DB backups.

2002-10-16 Thread Dearman, Richard

I haven't done aTSM DB backup in the last few days.  So I started one today
and it is moving very slow I have a 30GB database and it is only reading at
about 500KB/s.  At this rate it will take hours to backup.  Before it would
only take 45minutes.

Is this normal?

Thanks
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BMR scripts

2002-09-26 Thread Dearman, Richard

Has anyone tried to script a BMR solution for NT or AIX using tsm.  Everyone
keeps saying the Bare Metal Restore is just a bunch of scripts that access
TSM but has anyone tried create those scripts themselves.

Thanks
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Copy Stgpool and Migrations

2002-03-25 Thread Dearman, Richard

I backup my systems to a disk stgpool then backup that stgpool to an offsite
copy stgpool library at 8am then at 11am I migrate the disk stgpool to an
onsite tape library.  Currently I schedule the jobs in tsm by just issuing
the proper commands at 8am and 11am.  The problem is my 8am backup to my
copy stgpool sometimes runs into the migrattion at 11am.  Does anyone have a
more efficient way of doing this instead of me just changing the migration
to a later time.

Thanks
Richard



Re: stroage media errors

2002-02-12 Thread Dearman, Richard

I have this same problem the only way to solve it for me is to restart the
3494 library.  The drives show online and available to aix but the library
won't use them.  I have this problem whenever I reboot my tsm server.  I
then must restart the library as well.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Fred Johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: stroage media errors


Saw this often on various flavors of V3R7.  Still have it on 4.1.5, as I
posted yesterday.  Do you have to reboot to get the process to work?


At 02:49 PM 2/12/2002 -0600, you wrote:
I am running TSM 3.7.3.8 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 tape library with 3590e1a
drives fairly recently upgraded from b1a's.

When running reclamation, migration, and move data certain volumes are
trying to be mounted on one particular drive. If that drive is not
available
we get error messages:

02/12/2002 08:00:15 ANR0984I Process 7683 for MIGRATION started in the
BACKGROUND at 08:00:15.

02/12/2002 08:00:15 ANR1000I Migration process 7683 started for storage
pool
BACKUPPOOL.

02/12/2002 08:00:16 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library
SATADSMLIB1.

02/12/2002 08:00:16 ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 910085 - mount
failed.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library
SATADSMLIB1.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 910085 - mount
failed.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library
SATADSMLIB1.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 910085 - mount
failed.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR1021W Migration process 7683 terminated for storage
pool BACKUPPOOL - storage media inaccessible.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR0985I Process 7683 for MIGRATION running in the
BACKGROUND completed with completion state FAILURE at 08:00:17.

02/12/2002 08:00:17 ANR1002I Migration for storage pool BACKUPPOOL will be
retried in 60 seconds.



The tapes never get mounted on any other drive.

I have deleted and redefined all the drives.

Has anyone else seen these problems?

Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: FC/ SCSI

2002-01-28 Thread Dearman, Richard

I have tested this scenario moving to scsi connected 3590e's and fc
connected 3590e's.  Using scsi to got about 20Mb/s and fc about 25Mb/s.  I'm
using hardware compressions.  I haven't been able to get the high levels of
throughput the IBM claims you can get from moving to fc. Although I haven't
tried testing using the move data command yet.  My test were coming from my
disk pool to tape.



-Original Message-
From: Felix Muelbaier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FC/ SCSI


Hi everybody

has anyone some experience with this environment.
TSM Server Version 4.1.3 OS=AIX 4.3.3 ML8
3494 Library 4 Tapes 3590E
2 Tapes with SCSI 2 Tapes FC

IBM says the 3590E a much more faster with the FC adapter. So we want to
put one FC Card into our SP and test it.
Then the TSM server should run with SCSI and FC tapes.  Later  will upgrade
the next two drives and move the TSM SERVER to a new Hardware.





Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Felix Mülbaier



bebit Informationstechnik GmbH
Besselstraße 26
D-68219 Mannheim
http://www.bebit.de

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Re: VMS Client Performance

2001-12-20 Thread Dearman, Richard

You know I had a problem similar to this.  We were doing a large restore of
a system disk about 50,000 files 1.6Gb.  It took about 20 minutes to build
the file list.  When it started restoring it restored 1Gb fast and then the
session hung for 45minutes.  So I killed the session from TSM and it
reconnected and started moving files again from where it left off but after
about 30Mb more it hung again.  So I killed the session from TSM again and
it reconnected and did another 10Mb and hung again.  This happened about 5
times before it completed.  I don't understand why it would hang.  It wasn't
waiting for a tape mount, it would just sit there.  It took us 2hours to
restore 1.6GB.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VMS Client Performance


Paul, Kelly -

If the FTP times are similar, then another possible cause of this is that
the output disk has file highwater marking turned on (this is the default).
Or, the output disk is very fragmented and nearly full.  For a restore of
such a large file, either of these issues can be a significant.   Another
item to check is whether the file is marked for contiguous restore or
contiguous best try (ABC SHOW BACKUP file /FULL will show this).  If so,
the restore can take much longer than otherwise unless the disk has very
large chunks of free space.

I would expect the problem to be either some network issue (one should check
the OpenVMS LAN device via LANCP SHOW DEV/COUNTER and possibly LANCP SHOW
DEV/CHAR) or the above-mentioned disk issues.

To change the file highwater marking:

$ set volume/nohighwater device:

Note that you probably want to reinstate file high water marking after the
restore.  It is part of OpenVMS file security and helps prevent disk
scavenging.

To check the fragmentation state of the disk:

1. Install Compaq's DFO from the condist or the DFU utility from the OpenVMS
freeware CD.

2. Run DFO's file analysis command, which does not require a license. Or,
run the DFU disk analysis command(s).

Finally, it would be interesting to see the summary produced by ABC for the
restore.  The summary data rate would give us an idea about whether the
bottleneck is network (data rate slow) or disk (data rate fast, but
wall-clock time long).  In the disk case, the problem will be in file
allocation not the data transfer portion.  For degenerate cases, file
allocation can take an enormously long time.

So, there are two possible bottlenecks: Network or Disk.

Oh, almost forgot.  Typically (unless drastically changed) the TCPwindowsize
and TCPbuff settings have only marginal affect.  I recommend leaving them
alone.  This is especially true because we see reasonable performance during
the backup.

Regards,
Steve

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Paul Bestow
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VMS Client Performance


Hello Everybody,

Does anyone out there run the a similar configuration that may be able to
help us with a few performance options?

TSM Server 4.1.3 running on NT4 Enterprise Edition SP6a

ABC Backup Client 3.1.0.1 running on OPEN VMS 7.2-2

Basically we backed up a 3.5gb file to disk which only took around 5 mins
but on the restore it took just over 2 hours.

Has anyone got any ideas for the options file i.e. TCPWINDOWSIZE or
TCPBUFFSIZE as we have left them set to the default settings which was
TCPWINDOWSIZE 63 and TCPBUFFSIZE 32.

Thanks in advance

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Reporting Statistics

2001-11-19 Thread Dearman, Richard

Does anyone know of any reporting tools that works well with TSM.  I know
Tivoli has a Decision Support module for TSM but the price is pretty high.
We don't have the entire Tivoli Framework enviornment implemented so I don't
think it would be best used here.  We just use TSM and I'm looking for a
tool that can forecast future needs has well has show some good reports.

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Transferring Filespace Owners Ship

2001-10-30 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there anyway to transfer ownership of a filespace from one node to
another node within TSM.   I want to re-register the current filespace under
the new node name so I can delete the old node name.  The new node name is
also in a different policy domain with different rules.  For example: I'm
backing up a server registered as Server1 in TSM for 1 month.

Thanks in advance.

Richard
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Offsite Data

2001-10-25 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there anyway other than creating a backup set to offfsite data for a
particular day for one server.  For example I want to offsite xyz servers
backup of a database every friday just once a week and keep it offsite
indefinitely.  Basically, I will have a copy of that server offsite has it
was on that particular friday.

Thanks in advance
Richard
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Re: Etherchannel and EBU backups.

2001-09-24 Thread Dearman, Richard

Remember no matter how fast your network is you can only move data as fast
as your disk will read or write.  I have a setup similiar to this and run
multiple sessions on our Oracle server but don't get gig throughput because
of how fast it can read from disk where the Oracle database lies.  The max
backup I see is 30MB/s.  When a gig card can do max 125MB/s.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:07 PM
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Subject: Etherchannel and EBU backups.


hi Eric,

I am not sure whether it's feasible or not because I don't know how
etherchannel works.  Is data going to go through four etherchannels
because you start four sessions?  If so, your implementation might work.
Make sure not to start more sessions than your max mount point for your
node on the TSM server.

I hope you are aware that Oracle7 is not supported by both Oralce and
Tivoli anymore.

regards,
Thiha


I'm interested in determining if etherchannel and EBU/TDP for Oracle,
might
be effective in reducing backup times.

Client system: AIX 4.3.3, uses Oracle 7 and backs up using EBU via TDP
for
Oracle 2.1
Server system: AIX 4.3.3 and TSM Server 3.7

Network interfaces today are 100 MB ethernet, a single adapter in each
system.

Proposal is to speed up backups by using 4 ethernet adapters in both the
client and the server and use Etherchannel. 4 parallel sessions would be
set in the EBU script. A much larger database will be implemented shortly
and etherchannel looks attractive, providing TDP for Oracle will use 4
concurrent sessions, which I think it should.

Can anyone confirm that the above should be a workable solution? Is
anyone
doing this?


Thanks people,

Eric Winters
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Re: 3494 HELP!!!!

2001-08-08 Thread Dearman, Richard

I rebooted the library and it cam back OK.  So lmcp must have been running
because I didn't reboot the aix system.  I'm having a CE come out to take a
look at the error logs on the 3494 os2 console.

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Richard,
 Did you check to see if LMCP is running?




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Is anyone familar with the following message using a 3494 library.  For
some
reason I get these messages in my TSM  actlog and I cann't access the
library.  I try from a aix prompt to run mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qI  and it
errors.  Which indicates the server isn't talking to the 3494.  Is there
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losing connection the library and the server can ping each other.
ANR8444E Internal Operation: Library UICMC3494 is currently unavailable.

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3494 HELP!!!!

2001-08-07 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is anyone familar with the following message using a 3494 library.  For some
reason I get these messages in my TSM  actlog and I cann't access the
library.  I try from a aix prompt to run mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qI  and it
errors.  Which indicates the server isn't talking to the 3494.  Is there any
fix for this other than rebooting the 3494?  I cann't figure out why it's
losing connection the library and the server can ping each other.
ANR8444E Internal Operation: Library UICMC3494 is currently unavailable.

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Re: 3494 HELP!!!!

2001-08-07 Thread Dearman, Richard

States Lirary is Offline from host.  The library show it being online the
only way I have seen to get it back is to reboot the library.

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Try doing the mtlib with a -qL to see the status of the 3494 to see if the
library is in an automated operation state or if there is an intervention
required.

Regards,
Mike (305) 552-2073
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Max # sessions

2001-07-31 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there a preferred max number of simultaneous backup session?  I now
backup about 20 server at a time during one session but I notice that some
have recv wait status if I do a q sess.  I thought TSM was multi
threaded and would backup all of them at once.  I have a gig card in the tsm
server so network bandwith isn't an issue.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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scripting problems..Help

2001-06-28 Thread Dearman, Richard

When I run the following script:

dsmadmc -ID=admin -PASSWORD=admin QUERY ACTLOG BEGINDATE=today
BEGINTIME=02:00 ENDDATE=today ENDTIME=NOW SEARCH=FULL backup from server
server* complete ORIGINATOR=ALL | mail -s Exchange_backup_info
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I get an email was follows

ANS8000I Server command: 'QUERY ACTLOG BEGINDATE=today BEGINTIME=02:00
ENDDATE=today ENDTIME=NOW SEARCH=FULL backup from server SERVER* complete
ORIGINATOR=ALL'
ANR2020E QUERY ACTLOG: Invalid parameter - BACKUP.
ANS8001I Return code 3.

My actlog states the following:

03 ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command: QUERY ACTLOG BEGINDATE=today
BEGINTIME=02:00 ENDDATE=today ENDTIME=NOW SEARCH=FULL backup= from= server=
SERVER*= complete= ORIGINATOR=ALL 06/28/01 11:47:03
ANR2020E QUERY ACTLOG: Invalid parameter - BACKUP.
Any ideas on how to fix this.



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Cache Hit Pct.

2001-06-21 Thread Dearman, Richard

Anyone know of a good way to raise Cache Hit Pct to above 98%.  I continue
to get 95.6% and I tried the performance tuning setting an still get cann't
get it above 98%.  Tivoli manuals state that Cache Hi Pct should remain
above 98%.

Thanks
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Re: Cache Hit Pct.

2001-06-21 Thread Dearman, Richard

My Buffpoolsize is set to 65536 and SelfTunebufpoolsize is set to yes as
well.  So I would assume it would tune itself to the right value.  I'm
thinking maybe the reset of buffpool stattistics will help.  Is resetting of
the buffpool statistics something that need to be don everyday.  In order to
get a true value each day.


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Subject: Re: Cache Hit Pct.


Richard, Your cache hit percentage is too low at 95.6 percent and as you
have pointed out, should be around 98 percent of above. To change the
percentage of your cache hits, increase by doubling, the size of your
BUFPOOL parameter in your dsmserv.opt file on your TSM server:

entry from my dsmserv.opt file:
BUFPOOLSIZE 16384

You should then wait a day or two and see what it rises to. Each time, you
will need to reset the associated statistics with
the reset bufpool. You can then check your cache hit percentage using the
q db f=d command:

tsm: AFCOPS2q db f=d

  Available Space (MB): 13,172
Assigned Capacity (MB): 11,420
Maximum Extension (MB): 1,752
Maximum Reduction (MB): 1,780
 Page Size (bytes): 4,096
Total Usable Pages: 2,923,520
Used Pages: 1,441,070
  Pct Util: 49.3
 Max. Pct Util: 50.1
  Physical Volumes: 3
 Buffer Pool Pages: 4,096
 Total Buffer Requests: 31,549,306
Cache Hit Pct.: 98.94
   Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00
   Backup in Progress?: Yes
Type of Backup In Progress: Full
  Incrementals Since Last Full: 0
Changed Since Last Backup (MB): 0.52
Percentage Changed: 0.01
Last Complete Backup Date/Time: 06/20/01   12:02:59


Hope this is what you were looking for... I suspect your TSM server is
running a tad slow... just don't overdo upping the
bufpool size and wait for at least a day to let the new bufpool size have a
chance to show a true value for the cache hit
percentage

George Lesho
Storage/System Admin
AFC Enterprises



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get it above 98%.  Tivoli manuals state that Cache Hi Pct should remain
above 98%.

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Re: full backup question.

2001-06-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

Either start using collocation on the tape storage pool, which will help in
the future with restore speeds.  But for now I would say create a backup set
for the machine you are going to restore.  The backupset will take sometime
to create but the restore will go quickly.

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Hi all,

Will I am restoring a big amount of data the restore take allot of time
( 1 GB per 3 hour ).
I assume it's because of the incremental backup which store the data on
several tape.
If I will make in every  Tuesday a full backup, is that will improve my
restore time ?
or the only solution for a good restore time in tsm is collocation ?

Thanks
ofer nachom

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Reclaims Ques

2001-06-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

If all my tape drives are busy during the day doing reclaims and someone
needs to do a restore from a tape will TSM stop a reclaim process and let
the restore take place.

Thanks
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Re: Reclaims Ques

2001-06-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

I have seen this problem as well I thought that the restore was suppose to
take priority.

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Sometimes.  I have seen ADSM interupt processing for a restore that needs
that tape.  I have also seen on the 4.1 code ADSM give the message of data
unavailable when tape drives are not immediately available on the server (3
seconds).  If anyone has changes to resolve.  Please let us know.

Jeff Bach

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 If all my tape drives are busy during the day doing reclaims and someone
 needs to do a restore from a tape will TSM stop a reclaim process and let
 the restore take place.

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Re: Reclaims Ques

2001-06-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

I cann't find this in my guide is there a TSM 4.1 Admin Guide available.

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If all my tape drives are busy during the day doing reclaims and someone
needs to do a restore from a tape will TSM stop a reclaim process and let
the restore take place.

To add to the prior responses:  The Admin Guide specifies what happens in
topic Preemption of Client or Server Operations (p.553 of the AIX
version).
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Archiving vs Backups

2001-06-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there any real difference between archiving and running a regular backup.
I currently just run backups and do no archiving.  Although to do keep data
for years in some cases.  What are your opinions?  Should I change my backup
strategy and create archive storage pools.

Thanks for your input :)
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Re: HSM for NT

2001-06-17 Thread Dearman, Richard

Well it does make since if you have mutiple gigs of space being taken up on
your servers because of data that hasn't been accessed in years.  Its better
to migrate that data to cheaper media.  Tape is still cheaper than disk
depending on who you are getting it from.  Also the labor involved in
extending disk drive resources are extensive across 100 home directory
servers and growing.  You might say why don't you get a SAN but if that SAN
is down for any reason my entired network is down.  HSM is a needed product
and it should work on highly used servers or infrequently accessed servers
as well.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:49 PM
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Subject: Re: HSM for NT


From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Is anyone using the HSM for NT product that intergrates with TSM called
OTG
Diskextender?  Or is there any other products that do HSM on NT that
intergrate with TSM.  The OTG product is not very good I am having alot
of
problems with it.

From: Burton, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
What sort of problems are you experiencingwe tested the OTG product
and
we thought it looked pretty good.

Dearman, Richard wrote:
 We use the software on our home directory servers.  Our servers are
hanging
 when we do a drive scan and we have to disable the otg service and reboot
 the machine to get it working again.  Also,  the software is generating
alot
 of error messages trying to locate files.  It seems to be a good product
for
 servers that don't change alot.  Our home directory servers continuely
 change when users login and diskextender doesn't seem to keep up with the
 changes very well.

Stop and think about it. The purpose of HSM is to use tape, in place of
disk, for files that are infrequently accessed. It is not meant for
production boxes where files are frequently accessed. If files are being
accessed/changed frequently, there is not an HSM client/server combo in
the world that will be able to keep up with it.

I don't understood the strong interest in HSM in some IT shops. It made
sense when tape was cheap and harddisk real estate was pricey. Now that
the situation is reversed, the file access delay and added overhead of
HSM operations don't make much sense.

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Unix Point in Time Restores

2001-06-13 Thread Dearman, Richard

In order to do point in time restores on a Unix (AIX) machines must you run
an Full Image backup once a week and incrementals the rest of the week.  Or
can you just do your normal incrementals everyday.  Basically, is the full
image backup necessary.

Thanks
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HSM for NT

2001-06-12 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is anyone using the HSM for NT product that intergrates with TSM called OTG
Diskextender?  Or is there any other products that do HSM on NT that
intergrate with TSM.  The OTG product is not very good I am having alot of
problems with it.

Thansk
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Re: HSM for NT

2001-06-12 Thread Dearman, Richard

We use the software on our home directory servers.  Our servers are hanging
when we do a drive scan and we have to disable the otg service and reboot
the machine to get it working again.  Also,  the software is generating alot
of error messages trying to locate files.  It seems to be a good product for
servers that don't change alot.  Our home directory servers continuely
change when users login and diskextender doesn't seem to keep up with the
changes very well.



-Original Message-
From: Burton, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSM for NT


What sort of problems are you experiencingwe tested the OTG product and
we thought it looked pretty good.

Robert Burton
Open System Storage Analyst
Royal Bank of Canada
315 Front St West
Toronto, On, M5V 3A4
416-348-3849
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HSM for NT


Is anyone using the HSM for NT product that intergrates with TSM called OTG
Diskextender?  Or is there any other products that do HSM on NT that
intergrate with TSM.  The OTG product is not very good I am having alot of
problems with it.

Thansk
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non collocation to collocation

2001-06-08 Thread Dearman, Richard

Anyone know of a non intensive way to move a large storage pool from being
non collocation to using collocation.

Thanks
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TDP for Exchange Restore

2001-06-04 Thread Dearman, Richard

My exchange database restores move slow about 600kb/s but any other type of
database restore to the same machine moves very quickly.  Is any one else
experiencing this type of slow performance on exchange database restores.
Its taking me roughly 2 1/2 hors to restore a 8 GB database.

Thanks
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Restore problem

2001-06-01 Thread Dearman, Richard

I noticed that when I do a restore my client may indicated 5GB restored but
when I do a q session on the server it will indicated that 3GB or so was
sent.  This hasn't happen before until I moved to Gigabit ethernet last
week.  Does anyone one know how to correct this.

Thanks
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Restores using 3590

2001-06-01 Thread Dearman, Richard

I'm trying to generate statistics on restoring from a 3494 library using
3590E tape drives.  I haven't been able to get a restore rate of more than
1MB/s.  Is anyone out there doing restores faster than that coming from tape
using a 3590 tape drive.

Thanks
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Remote administer 3494 library

2001-05-18 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there anyway to remotely administer a 3494 from AIX or any other way.  I
need to be able to remotely reboot it or check on the status of drives or
set them on and offline.

Thanks

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TDP for Exchange 2.2

2001-05-14 Thread Dearman, Richard

Does anyone know if TDP for Exchange version 2.2 is available yet?

thanks
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AIX Question

2001-05-14 Thread Dearman, Richard

How do you redirect error report resource names to a shell script.  I have a
shell script that will send emails on resource names from the errpt but I
don't know how to pass those resource names to the shell script.

Thanks for you help

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TSM Database Size

2001-05-11 Thread Dearman, Richard

Is there a preferred db volume size for TSM for optimal performance.  I am
currently making my database volumes in 2GB increments my database is 20GB
in total.

Thanks
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When to use multiple ADSM Servers and HA enviornments

2001-05-10 Thread Dearman, Richard

When is it a good time to start implementing multiple TSM servers. Also,  I
have two H70 with one node running TSM 4.1 connected to a 3494.  The other
node is setup as a standby both running HACMP.  I was thinking of
implementing the other standby H70 in production and start using TSM on it
as well and sharing the 3494 library.  Although my current H70 running
production is doing fine I was thinking long term.  An the question comes up
of when does it become a good time to implement multiple servers.  Also,
will  the two servers still be able to failover to each other.  Can two tsm
process run on one server in case of failure.  There will not be any standby
server if I go this route.

I would also be interested in hearing other people's HA enviornment for TSM.

Thanks

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AIX Help

2001-05-09 Thread Dearman, Richard

I am trying to run the nohup dsmc sched 2 /dev/null  command on my AIX
4.3.3 machine and it works but every time I exit.  It says There are jobs
running  so I exit again and whe I check the dsmc sched process is not
running.  I thought the nohup command was suppose to let process run even
after you logout.  What am I doing wrong.

Thanks
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Mulitthreading

2001-05-07 Thread Dearman, Richard

I have 2 raid-5 sets with 1 volume of a storage pool sitting on each raid
set.  I am noticing that when I backup that I don't write to both volumes
all the time in parellel.  My network through put isn't limiting me.  Is
there any way to force tsm to write to both volumes in a storage pool at the
same time.  Effectively doubling my through put.

Thanks
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3494 checkin command

2001-05-02 Thread Dearman, Richard

Anyone know the command on a 3494 library to checkin volumes using the
barcode only.  I added 300 new tape to my library and it wants to mount each
one instead of just using the barcode.   What is the typical command you
guys use to check in new scratch tape on a 3494.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-30 Thread Dearman, Richard

Why would I send the data to tape first writing to disk is faster.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


What I understood from your setup is as follows.

You are doing cold backup everyday using TSM disk pools. Your backup time is
6 hrs for 500 Gig and you will be backing up 1TB in next few months. Your
TSM server has only one SSA Adapter.

If you could do following changes in your setup, You should be able to
reduce backup window time.

1. Schedule backup with multiple threads using Gigabit Fiber Channel
Interface.
2. Configure Copy group to send backup data directly to tapes( Don't use
disk group)

-Bandu

-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


The amount of data is the same everday 500GB full backup.  I'm using one SSA
card in the tsm system.  I could get Gig cards if I have proof that I'm
maxing out the current 100mb cards in the system and I don't seem to be
doing that.  The tsm server is plugged into the same switch has the backup
server and on the same ip subnet.  Also, the database files that I'm backing
up are just oracle dump files.  The tsm serve is also running aix 4.3.3.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


We are backing up 2 servers of capacity 1.2 TB everyday. We have shark
system and flash copy is implemented on shark. Without client interference
we backup 1.2 Gig to TSM. It's running with 6 drives. No LAN/Free. But it's
Client/Free backup. To restore we have placed Gbit Interfaces in Client and
TSM Server.

You need to give more information of your server and database.

Are you doing incremental or full backup and which database you have?
If incremental how much data is changed everyday?

Can you afford GBit interface between data server and TSM? ( IT needs 2
adapter and 1 switch)
How many drives your library have? How many SSA adapters are installed in
server?

Thank you,
Bandu Vibhute,
Bestfoods Baking Company,
55 Paradise Lane, Bay Shore, NY, 11706
Voice: 631-951-5212, Cell: 516-702-0323


-Original Message-
From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
Importance: High


Hi
If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
purchase additional s/w.
pinni



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From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 500GB Backup


I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-30 Thread Dearman, Richard

We have 3590EA1 drives using Ultra Scsi connection that write at 14MB/s
which I believe is faster than the SSA disks write speed.  I think the the
3590EA1 will write at 40MB/s if using compression.  I don't see my tape
drives writing faster than my disk.

-Original Message-
From: Burton, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Tape direct is a heck of a lot faster than disk

Robert Burton
Open System Storage Analyst
Royal Bank of Canada
315 Front St West
Toronto, On, M5V 3A4
416-348-3849
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Why would I send the data to tape first writing to disk is faster.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


What I understood from your setup is as follows.

You are doing cold backup everyday using TSM disk pools. Your backup time is
6 hrs for 500 Gig and you will be backing up 1TB in next few months. Your
TSM server has only one SSA Adapter.

If you could do following changes in your setup, You should be able to
reduce backup window time.

1. Schedule backup with multiple threads using Gigabit Fiber Channel
Interface.
2. Configure Copy group to send backup data directly to tapes( Don't use
disk group)

-Bandu

-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


The amount of data is the same everday 500GB full backup.  I'm using one SSA
card in the tsm system.  I could get Gig cards if I have proof that I'm
maxing out the current 100mb cards in the system and I don't seem to be
doing that.  The tsm server is plugged into the same switch has the backup
server and on the same ip subnet.  Also, the database files that I'm backing
up are just oracle dump files.  The tsm serve is also running aix 4.3.3.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


We are backing up 2 servers of capacity 1.2 TB everyday. We have shark
system and flash copy is implemented on shark. Without client interference
we backup 1.2 Gig to TSM. It's running with 6 drives. No LAN/Free. But it's
Client/Free backup. To restore we have placed Gbit Interfaces in Client and
TSM Server.

You need to give more information of your server and database.

Are you doing incremental or full backup and which database you have?
If incremental how much data is changed everyday?

Can you afford GBit interface between data server and TSM? ( IT needs 2
adapter and 1 switch)
How many drives your library have? How many SSA adapters are installed in
server?

Thank you,
Bandu Vibhute,
Bestfoods Baking Company,
55 Paradise Lane, Bay Shore, NY, 11706
Voice: 631-951-5212, Cell: 516-702-0323


-Original Message-
From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
Importance: High


Hi
If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
purchase additional s/w.
pinni



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 500GB Backup


I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-30 Thread Dearman, Richard

When you say stripe across 5-6 disks are ou saying a RAID5 set.  Also,  I
thought if you set compression at the client level, the data will not
compress when it gets migrated to tape.  Also, what do you mean by at the
block level.  Should you use JFS or raw filesystems for your ADSM volumes.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Easy to imagine,  not take the same amount of money the  tape drive cost and
buy disk, stripe the disks across 5-6 drives and two controllers at the
block level.  Dedicate this resource to the one server for the backup period
and run the backup.  Which is faster now?  Also compress on the client so we
have an apples and apples comparison.  

If you want, multi-thread the client (just to disk though since the one tape
drive cannot do this)

Which is faster now?  
Jeff Bach
Home Office Open Systems Engineering
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

WAL-MART CONFIDENTIAL


-Original Message-
From:   Magura, Curtis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, April 30, 2001 10:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: 500GB Backup

Due to a temporary lack of disk we had to start writing backups from
one of
our large NT file servers directly to tape. we have two large NT
file
servers backing up at the same time. One going to SSA disk pool the
other to
a pool that is writing directly to 2 3590E1A's. TSM Server is hosted
on a
RISC/6000 H70. Both client machines backup up around 75-80 GB per
night on
average. They are both Compaq 6500's connected to IBM ESS for disk.

In most cases the machine backing up directly to tape out performs
the
machine backing up to the disk pool. This is just comparing Total
Elapsed
Time and nothing else.

Imagine that!

Curt Magura
Lockheed Martin EIS
Gaithersburg, Md.
301-240-6305


-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 11:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


We have 3590EA1 drives using Ultra Scsi connection that write at
14MB/s
which I believe is faster than the SSA disks write speed.  I think
the the
3590EA1 will write at 40MB/s if using compression.  I don't see my
tape
drives writing faster than my disk.

-Original Message-
From: Burton, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Tape direct is a heck of a lot faster than disk

Robert Burton
Open System Storage Analyst
Royal Bank of Canada
315 Front St West
Toronto, On, M5V 3A4
416-348-3849
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Why would I send the data to tape first writing to disk is faster.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


What I understood from your setup is as follows.

You are doing cold backup everyday using TSM disk pools. Your backup
time is
6 hrs for 500 Gig and you will be backing up 1TB in next few months.
Your
TSM server has only one SSA Adapter.

If you could do following changes in your setup, You should be able
to
reduce backup window time.

1. Schedule backup with multiple threads using Gigabit Fiber Channel
Interface.
2. Configure Copy group to send backup data directly to tapes( Don't
use
disk group)

-Bandu

-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


The amount of data is the same everday 500GB full backup.  I'm using
one SSA
card in the tsm system.  I could get Gig cards if I have proof that
I'm
maxing out the current 100mb cards in the system and I don't seem to
be
doing that.  The tsm server is plugged into the same switch has the
backup
server and on the same ip subnet.  Also, the database files that I'm
backing
up are just oracle dump files.  The tsm serve is also running aix
4.3.3.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


We are backing up 2

500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

You need a SAN in place to use the LAN free backup.

-Original Message-
From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
Importance: High


Hi
If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
purchase additional s/w.
pinni



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 500GB Backup


I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

I am not using any TDP product.  I'm picking up oracle db dump files with
the regular tsm client.  Going over a 100mb ethernet segment.  Then
migrating the files to a 3494 library.  All the data goes to disk first.



-Original Message-
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:25 PM
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Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


And it depends on the type of DB.  TSM only supports a couple in LAN-free
mode.

-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


You need a SAN in place to use the LAN free backup.

-Original Message-
From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
Importance: High


Hi
If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
purchase additional s/w.
pinni



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 500GB Backup


I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

The amount of data is the same everday 500GB full backup.  I'm using one SSA
card in the tsm system.  I could get Gig cards if I have proof that I'm
maxing out the current 100mb cards in the system and I don't seem to be
doing that.  The tsm server is plugged into the same switch has the backup
server and on the same ip subnet.  Also, the database files that I'm backing
up are just oracle dump files.  The tsm serve is also running aix 4.3.3.

-Original Message-
From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


We are backing up 2 servers of capacity 1.2 TB everyday. We have shark
system and flash copy is implemented on shark. Without client interference
we backup 1.2 Gig to TSM. It's running with 6 drives. No LAN/Free. But it's
Client/Free backup. To restore we have placed Gbit Interfaces in Client and
TSM Server.

You need to give more information of your server and database.

Are you doing incremental or full backup and which database you have?
If incremental how much data is changed everyday?

Can you afford GBit interface between data server and TSM? ( IT needs 2
adapter and 1 switch)
How many drives your library have? How many SSA adapters are installed in
server?

Thank you,
Bandu Vibhute,
Bestfoods Baking Company,
55 Paradise Lane, Bay Shore, NY, 11706
Voice: 631-951-5212, Cell: 516-702-0323


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From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
Importance: High


Hi
If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
purchase additional s/w.
pinni



-Original Message-
From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 500GB Backup


I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB of
SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount of
time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
that.

Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

9000 kB/s is only 9mb per second.  Over a 100meg ethernet LAN.  That doesn't
sound to god to me.

-Original Message-
From: Adolph Kahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


If you're getting 9000 kBytes/s over a 100mb LAN, then that is very good
and you
are not going to move data faster over the LAN.


- Original Message -
From: Dearman, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:32:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup

 I am not using any TDP product.  I'm picking up oracle db dump files with
 the regular tsm client.  Going over a 100mb ethernet segment.  Then
 migrating the files to a 3494 library.  All the data goes to disk first.



 -Original Message-
 From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


 And it depends on the type of DB.  TSM only supports a couple in LAN-free
 mode.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


 You need a SAN in place to use the LAN free backup.

 -Original Message-
 From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
 Importance: High


 Hi
 If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
 purchase additional s/w.
 pinni



 -Original Message-
 From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 500GB Backup


 I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is
 on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to 500GB
of
 SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set.
 My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't seem
 very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
 better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest amount
of
 time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get me
 backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do
 that.

 Thanks
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Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Dearman, Richard

9000 kb is only 9 megabytes per second.  Over 100 megabyte lan.  I'm only
using 10% of my band width.  There has to be a better tranfer rate than
this.  I need to be able to backup 500GB in an hour!!  and 1TB in 2 hours!!
Somebody solve that one?


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


Gigabit ethernet.  a switched network. multi-thread.

This is normal throughput.

100 meg is 100/8 megabytes

LAN free is 40 Gigs per hour.

1.  Speed up client disks
2.  stop doing RAID5
3.  SAN storage


 -Original Message-
 From: Dearman, Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:03 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: 500GB Backup

 9000 kB/s is only 9mb per second.  Over a 100meg ethernet LAN.  That
 doesn't
 sound to god to me.

 -Original Message-
 From: Adolph Kahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 500GB Backup


 If you're getting 9000 kBytes/s over a 100mb LAN, then that is very good
 and you
 are not going to move data faster over the LAN.


 - Original Message -
 From: Dearman, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:32:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 500GB Backup

  I am not using any TDP product.  I'm picking up oracle db dump files
 with
  the regular tsm client.  Going over a 100mb ethernet segment.  Then
  migrating the files to a 3494 library.  All the data goes to disk first.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:25 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
 
 
  And it depends on the type of DB.  TSM only supports a couple in
 LAN-free
  mode.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:18 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
 
 
  You need a SAN in place to use the LAN free backup.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:01 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 500GB Backup
  Importance: High
 
 
  Hi
  If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to
  purchase additional s/w.
  pinni
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: 500GB Backup
 
 
  I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server
 is
  on the same ip subnet has the database server.  Tsm is connected to
 500GB
 of
  SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid
 set.
  My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s.  Which doesn't
 seem
  very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours.  Does anyone have any
  better senarios for backing up this amount of data in the smallest
 amount
 of
  time soon.  I am going to be backing up a 1Tb per day and I need to get
 me
  backup times to the lowest.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
 do
  that.
 
  Thanks
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AIX Question

2001-04-26 Thread Dearman, Richard

I'm new to the AIX world so forgive me if the question seems stupid.  I
installed two nic cards in my H70 running AIX 4.3.3.  Both are on different
ip subnets.  Everytime I set the default gateway for the second nic card it
changes the default gateway on the first card to be the same as the second.
Am I doing something wrong.  It won't let me set two different default
gateways for each card.

Thanks
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Re: RAID-5 Vs Mirroring

2001-04-24 Thread Dearman, Richard

I seen this situation once before when the parity is unsynced corruption
can be caused in the filesystems on the ssa array.  And cause the data to
become unrecoverable.  I saw this happen on an AIX 4.2.1 system before IBM
told me that there was nothing that could be done to recover the data and we
would have to recover from backup.

-Original Message-
From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RAID-5 Vs Mirroring


Were you using just a single card ?
Have you ever played with higher availability SSA card configurations ?
Take two cards and set up something like
Card1-PortA1 - out to drawer(s)
Card1-PortA2 - Card2-PortA1
Card2-PortA2 - out to drawer(s)

then if either card fails, the other still drives the environment.
you can do the same with the B-Loop

Dwight


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:03 AM
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One comment about the raid - we got away from SSA hardware raid after we
had two SSA card failures that caused the loss of the database.  If I
were forced to use raid, I would have the second copy, and put the raids
on separate SSA cards.

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On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Mahesh Babbar wrote:

  Hi all,

  Environment:

  NSM 3466, RS 6000, AIX 4.3.2 , TSM version 3.7.4,

  12 x 18.2 GB disk ( for DB and Diskpool Volumes)

  My current DB is of 80 GB size and is alarmingly utililized ( 95
  %).The DB volulmes are mirrored inside TSM ( Second Copy).

  Therefore another 80 GB space is being used for the second copies. In
  order to have more usable space for DB, a suggestion has been mooted
  to go for RAID-5 at the hardware level.

  IBM's version is that since a second copy MUST be kept , going for
  RAID 5 shall require more disk space. Now my question is:

  1. With the RAID 5 at AIX level, should a second, synchronized  copy
  of DB volumes is required.

  2. If I do not keep a second copy and take daily full backup, would
it
  be RISKY.

  3. Configuring RAID 5 at this juncture, would anybody see any pitfall
  ahead.

  Any comments are welcome!

  Regards

  MAhesh

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Advice

2001-04-24 Thread Dearman, Richard

Our TSM server is on one ip subnet and a large system I backup every night
about 300GB of data nightly is in the same room as the TSM server but on
another ip subnet.  I would like the data going into TSM from that large
system to be switched not routed to TSM.

Does anyone know if TSM can listen across multiple nics on different ip
subnets if I put another card in the TSM server on the same subnet as the
large system I backup nightly.

Thanks
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Re: Advice

2001-04-24 Thread Dearman, Richard

I'm not sure I understand, is this what you are saying?  My current TSM
server has one nic card on 11.0.0.0 subnet.  Install another nic card in my
TSM server and put it on another ip subnet lets say 10.0.0.10.  Then on my
client change the dsm.opt to backup to that ip address of 10.0.0.10?  If I
am understanding you correctly TSM will listen across multiple nic's that
are on different ip subnets. Correct?  ]

Thanks Fred by the way tell Mattnext door, Rich said Hello.

-Original Message-
From: Fred Johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Advice


We do it with ethernet and atm cards on AIX.  For a while we had one large
AIX box dumping SYBASE over the atm while the rest of the backup was over
the ethernet.  Just have different names in the dsm.opt file.


At 02:55 PM 4/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Our TSM server is on one ip subnet and a large system I backup every night
about 300GB of data nightly is in the same room as the TSM server but on
another ip subnet.  I would like the data going into TSM from that large
system to be switched not routed to TSM.

Does anyone know if TSM can listen across multiple nics on different ip
subnets if I put another card in the TSM server on the same subnet as the
large system I backup nightly.

Thanks
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Re: Advice

2001-04-24 Thread Dearman, Richard

Does APA need certain filesets installed or need to be turned on.  Or is it
on by default.  Because I have multiple nic's installed now but TSM only
seem to be listening over one of them.

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Yes.  TSM works on multiple interfaces.  Just configure the interfaces and
go. APA (autoport aggregation) is also available on 4.3.3 AIX
A totally switch backbone can push the bottle neck to the disk subsystem and
software.  Though a lot on interesting things can be done
to speed things even further.

I use multiple interface currently.  (no auto port aggregation yet though)
Other ideas are gigabit and jumbo frames.

Jeff Bach

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 Hi

 Just try LAN FREE BACKUP FROM IBM.

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 Our TSM server is on one ip subnet and a large system I backup every night
 about 300GB of data nightly is in the same room as the TSM server but on
 another ip subnet.  I would like the data going into TSM from that large
 system to be switched not routed to TSM.

 Does anyone know if TSM can listen across multiple nics on different ip
 subnets if I put another card in the TSM server on the same subnet as the
 large system I backup nightly.

 Thanks
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Backup Sets

2001-04-10 Thread Dearman, Richard

Currently I do regular TSM ncremental backups of my servers every night.  I
was wondering is there any reason I should start creating Backup Sets.  I
still have the ability to restore my server to its last backed up state if
it were to fail.  Therefore I don't see much reason for doing Backup Sets
accept for the ability to restore the downed server from portable media if
TSM isn't available.  Does anyone have any opinoins on types of backups to
do on NT, and AIX systems that will give me the best recoverablity in case
of a failure.

Thanks
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AIX Gurus.. .Help Needed..

2001-04-06 Thread Dearman, Richard

I use the "top"utility to monitor my server adsm server load.  I noticed
that the Real memory statement is showing 812M files is being used.  What
does the files statement mean?  it seems whatever files means is taking up
all of my memory.

Load averages:  0.10,  0.04,  0.04 adsmsrv1Fri Apr  6 10:15:50
2001
Cpu states:  0.7% user  3.5% system  7.8% wait 88.0% idle   For
non-commercial
Logged on:   1 users   1 active 1 remote 00:10 sleep time use only
!!!
Real memory:  211.6M procs  812.0M files0.5M free 1024.0M total
Virtual memory: 137.6M used  3574.4M free 3712.0M total



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MediaW problem

2001-04-04 Thread Dearman, Richard

I run my backups at night around 10:30pm.  I have around 50 servers doing
incrementals concurrently at this time.  I noticed that about half are
experiencing MEDIAW when I do a "q session".  They seem to be waitng to for
a tape to load in my library for them to write to but the storage pool that
these clients write to first is disk based then when it fills to 90% it
should migrate to tape.  My question is, if they are suppose to be going to
disk storage pool first and it isn't full then why are they waiting for
tape.  Which is what I am assuming is happening.

Thanks
Richard
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RAID5 or 0+1

2001-04-04 Thread Dearman, Richard

I have been seeing high memory utilization and high disk busy problems on
the disks that my database sits on when I do backups.   I'm running AIX
4.3.3 with in a H70 with 2 cpu's and 1gb of memory.  I was thinking of
moving my tsm database to a RAID 0+1 setup from a RAID5 setup to see if I
gain any performance.  Does anyone have any suggestions on database
performance issuses.

Thanks
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