Re: LTO-5 Experience?

2011-01-19 Thread Park, Rod
We installed 12 LTO5 drives a couple of months ago We have a mixture of LTO2, 
LTO4, and LTO5 drives in our library. LTO5 drives are only using LTO4 media, 
but we haven't had any issues as of yet.

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Duane
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:31 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LTO-5 Experience?

I'm installing a Spectralogic T950 with 14 LTO5 drives next week.
I'll let you know if I have the same issues.




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Bowers
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:28 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LTO-5 Experience?

I have a customer that is running 6 LTO-5 drives in a 3310 using IBM
LTO5 media.  They have had many issues with LTO5.  In the past 6
months, they have replaced 4 drives mostly due to stuck tapes.
Several engineering firmwares have been added, and they are now
finally able to eject tapes more consistently.

I would say that this customer is not happy with the transition at
this point (LTO3 previously).  They run an HSM environment, and tapes
getting stuck in the drives prevents restores of their HSM data.  This
makes unhappy doctors.

I know that they sent at least 2 of their drives to IBM with a tape
still stuck in it to perform diagnostics.  I really have never seen
anything like this in the 10+ years I've been doing TSM.

If you have not upgraded to the latest firmware, make sure you do so.

Gary Bowers
Itrus Technologies




On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:51 AM, Christian Svensson wrote:

 Hi,
 Does anyone run LTO-5 libraries today?
 How are your experience of LTO-5?

 I have only installed one library and we got a lot of problem with
 does drives.
 Just wonder if that is only one timer or if many other also have
 problems with LTO-5

 I don't care what TSM version you are running.

 Best Regards
 Christian Svensson

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Re: TSM 6 database space performance question

2010-05-11 Thread Park, Rod
Ours is designed the same, I asked the same questions and was given the 
following advice:

The alternative to specifying multiple database directories is to use hardware 
RAID controller or LVM to assemble multiple disks into a single 
filespace/directory,   You don't get the benefit of DB2's stripping when you do 
this, but what you loose is often made up for by the hardware's stripping.   
The other consideration is when doing this is that DB2 would normally throttle 
its I/Os going to the single directory (on the assumption that it represents a 
single disk), but there's a DB2 tuning parameter you can use to tell DB2 that 
the directory is backed by multiple disks, and to schedule its I/O accordingly. 
 In fact, TSM sets this parameter by default, so out of the box, DB2 will 
assume its database directories are backed by multiple disks

Rod

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Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:45 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6 database space performance question

It would probably not be a problem with it working, but with the two
lun's concatenated, there is probably little to no chance DB2 will be
able spread the I/O out among the 2 lun's.  If it's in a separate
filesystem, DB2 will spread the data out across them.  It will be even
worse with 3, 4, 5, or more lun's.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:21 PM, John D. Schneider
john.schnei...@computercoachingcommunity.com wrote:
 Greetings,
   I have a customer running TSM 6.1.3 on a Linux RedHat 5.4 server.
 They are using high-performance SAN attached disk for the TSM database
 and logs.  They have created the TSM database all in one directory under
 one filesystem.  Recently then needed to add more space, and they carved
 out a lun from another RAID group, and then added that lun to the
 existing filesystem.  TSM shows that it now has the additional space,
 but it is still all under one directory.
   In reading the Performance Guide and Admin Guide, they both recommend
 spreading the data out over multiple directories, putting each directory
 behind separate disks/luns.  This certainly makes sense to spread the
 I/O out over multiple luns, and I get that.  But is there anything wrong
 with the way my customer has done it?  They are using multiple luns from
 different RAID groups, but they are all put together behind one
 directory.  Is this going to become a problem as they add more and more
 load to this instance?  If TSM has lots of separate directories and they
 are across multiple luns, does TSM do it's database I/O differently?

 Best Regards,

 John D. Schneider
 The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
 Cell: (314) 750-8721




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Re: volumes in a collocation group?stg

2009-03-17 Thread Park, Rod
Ok, we've never collocated our copy pools because I was under the impression 
that TSM consolidates each node to a small subset of tapes which in turn makes 
restores very fast/less mounts blah blah blah, but if you're writing out new 
backup data for each node from the night before out to a copypool tape, how 
does TSM keep it collocated? It seems like it would have to move that data 
around every day to keep a nodes data to a small subset of tapes and each day 
it would keep moving the same data and the next day's new data to another 
subset of tapes. Please correct me if I'm wrong and point me in the right 
direction because we do have the same issue at our DR test with multiple mounts 
and multiple nodes requesting the same tapes.

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Clark
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg

Yes, the underlying problem is they are not collocated and they have
experienced delays because of:
- multiple platforms requesting the same volumes concurrently
- multiple servers on the same platform requesting the same volumes
concurrently
- too many mounts to restore a server
hence collocation, which is not cheating but using the features of TSM to
address
volume contention and wait times on mounts. A mechanical mount that takes 3
minutes is a lot of time if your data is spread across 30 volumes versus 10:
20 x 3 x #number of servers.
Larry Clark



- Original Message -
From: David E Ehresman deehr...@louisville.edu
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg


That's cheating.  If your DR test restore times are unexceptable you need to
address the underlying problem because you don't get to prep for real
disasters!

 Larry Clark lclar...@nycap.rr.com 03/15/09 2:48 PM 
Hi Alex,
Yes, this is related to improving restore times in a DR senario...so these
are offsitevols from a copypool.

Larry Clark
(518) 712-5138 Home Office


- Original Message -
From: Alex Paschal apasc...@msiinet.com
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?stg


Hi, All.

The critical piece that Larry mentioned is that he's interested in a
copypool.  If your primary pool is collocated by anything, but your
copypool is not collocated at all, then your copypool data will be mixed
up with no regard for collocation groups.

Nick, if you really want to mix data on tapes (I have no idea why you
would want to, but the beautiful thing about TSM is you can do nearly
anything you want), the first way I can think of is to temporarily
reduce MAXSCRATCH (or temporarily disable collocation), set to
Unavailable the volumes you do _not_ wish to write to, then issue move
[node]data.

Alex



Alex Paschal
Storage Solutions Engineer
MSI Systems Integrators


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Nick Laflamme
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:42 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] volumes in a collocation group?

On Mar 14, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Larry Clark wrote:

 What you say is curious..only nodes that are in a
 collocation
 group should have data on the volumes in that collocation group. At
 least
 that is my understanding.

 Your saying more than one collocation group can store data on the same
 volume?

 I know for collocation by node that would not be true

Paul already mentioned the scenario in which TSM has to put a a
collocation group member's data on a tape that has data from another
group on it, due to resource constraints. You can get similar results
if a node's collocation group membership changes from one group to
another. In that case, data stays where it is, meaning the tapes now
contain data from two groups on them, even though TSM behaved exactly
as predicted.

I keep wondering if there's a way to mix groups' data on a volume
using MOVE DATA or MOVE NODEDATA, but since neither lets you specify a
target more exactly than a storage group, I haven't seen how yet.

 Larry Clark

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copypool volumes requested instead of primary pool

2008-01-14 Thread Park, Rod
We have a situation where dba's are doing a full db restore to a client.
The client is requesting and using primary tapes, but it is also
requesting copypool tapes that are offsite. All of the primary tapes are
online r/w in the library and some are actually in use that has the same
db file that the restore is requesting but the restore never asks for
the primary tape, it goes for the copypool tape immediately. AIX, sever
version 5.3.3.1, oracle/tdp version 5.3anybody else seen this, why
would it request the copypool if primary tape is available and
read/writable in the library?

Thanks,
Rod.

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Re: copypool volumes requested instead of primary pool

2008-01-14 Thread Park, Rod
yes, that appears to be the case, damaged files on tapes. Not sure why
so many on that particular day but we have identified somethanks for
your help.

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Richard Sims
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] copypool volumes requested instead of primary pool

On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Park, Rod wrote:

 ... why would it request the copypool if primary tape is available and
 read/writable in the library?


Rod -

The most common reason is that a file on the volume is Damaged.
Use the Query CONtent VolName ... DAmaged=Yes
command to so determine.

Also watch out for files spanning volumes where the companion volume
is not available.  There should be evidence of problems in the
Activity Log.  I regular administration tasks, perform do 'Query
Volume ACCess=UNAVailable,DESTroyed' to look for anomalies.

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sql tdp hang issue

2007-12-14 Thread Park, Rod
I have a dba that has one sql server that has tsm hang issues
according to him. They have a full backup job that backs up 7 sql db's.
The size is about 80GB total. Sometime it backs them all up with no
issues, sometime it says waiting on tsm server but if I look at q se
there are no active sessions. Right now there is one running from last
night and it has only backed up 12.5GB in 9 hours. below are some client
details and log details. Anyone have any ideas. Other sql backups run
just fine along with the other 15TB that backup each night, but of
course DBA's say it's a TSM issue.
Here is what they see when it hangs:

Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.95 Kb/Sec 
Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.59 Kb/Sec 
Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.23 Kb/Sec 
Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 479.87 Kb/Sec 

Waiting for TSM
server..
..

clint info:

Node Name: WHQWPSQLCL1RS01_SQL
  Platform: TDP MSSQL Win32
   Client OS Level: 5.02
Client Version: Version 5, Release 3, Level 3.0
Policy Domain Name: SQL
 Last Access Date/Time: 12/14/07   08:00:05
Days Since Last Access: 1


thanks,
Rod

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Re: sql tdp hang issue

2007-12-14 Thread Park, Rod
I don't see anything in the activity log. The backups are going straight
to diskpools and the backups are single threaded. I did add disk space
to my diskpool this week in case that was the issue. Looking at my
diskvols, data doesn't seem to be striped across all disk evenly, would
that be that problem if some fill up and others don't, causing it to
wait on tsm?

tsm: TSMCORP1q vol stg=sql_diskpool

Volume Name  Storage Device Estimated
Pct  Volume 
 Pool Name   Class Name  Capacity
Util  Status 
 --- -- -
- 
/dev/rsqldiskvol1SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
0.2 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol10   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
31.4 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol11   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
100.0 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol12   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
36.6 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol13   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
100.0 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol14   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
92.8 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol15   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
98.8 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol16   SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
81.9 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol2SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
3.2 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol3SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
91.3 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol4SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
21.0 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol5SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
11.5 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol6SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
69.4 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol7SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
15.4 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol8SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
99.9 On-Line 
  OL

/dev/rsqldiskvol9SQL_DISKPO- DISK51,072.0
44.3 On-Line

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Del Hoobler
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:45 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] sql tdp hang issue

Did you examine the TSM Server activity log closely?
Was there a problem where a tape did not get mounted in time?
How many stripes are you using for the backup?
If you are using multiple stripes and one of those stripes
is waiting for the TSM server to mount a tape, it can cause this.
I have seen this when the TSM Server does not have enough available
tapes mounted to satisfy the DP/SQL request.
The Waiting on TSM server indicates that DP/SQL is waiting
for some event on the TSM Server to occur before it can continue
sending any more data. Is it possible that some TSM Server event
pre-empted the DP/SQL backup and took one of the tapes that was
needed to satisfy a multiple stripe DP/SQL backup request?

You should start on the TSM Server... in the activity log to
find out what it thinks happened.

Thanks,

Del



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/14/2007
09:52:59 AM:

 I have a dba that has one sql server that has tsm hang issues
 according to him. They have a full backup job that backs up 7 sql
db's.
 The size is about 80GB total. Sometime it backs them all up with no
 issues, sometime it says waiting on tsm server but if I look at q
se
 there are no active sessions. Right now there is one running from last
 night and it has only backed up 12.5GB in 9 hours. below are some
client
 details and log details. Anyone have any ideas. Other sql backups run
 just fine along with the other 15TB that backup each night, but of
 course DBA's say it's a TSM issue.
 Here is what they see when it hangs:

 Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.95 Kb/Sec
 Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.59 Kb/Sec
 Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 480.23 Kb/Sec
 Full: 3   Read: 658505728  Written: 65536  Rate: 479.87 Kb/Sec

 Waiting for TSM

server..
 ..

 clint info:

 Node Name: WHQWPSQLCL1RS01_SQL
   Platform: TDP MSSQL Win32
Client OS Level: 5.02
 Client Version: Version 5, Release 3, Level 3.0
 

Long running expire inventory

2007-04-17 Thread Park, Rod
I posted this before, not sure if it made it out there. I have a TSM
server version 5.3.3.1 on AIX with a 70GB database. I recently moved my
db/log vols from 500GB sata drives to internal drives along with
mirrored vols on separate internal drives on the aix box. My backups
went from 2 hours to 30 minutes, my startup went from about 2 hrs to
20-30 minutes, and I've seen other performance gains. Everything seems
better except for my expire inventory in went from running in a couple
of hours to several hours, and my current expiration has been running
since yesterday morning at 10:00 a.m.. Does anybody know why my expire
inventory run times would have gotten worse. I can't really tell from
the activity log. Any suggestions?


This has been running for almost 24 hours:

tsm: TSMCORP3q pr

 Process Process Description  Status

  Number
 
-
   2,301 Expiration   Examined 1600 objects, deleting
1568 backup
   objects, 0 archive objects, 0 DB
backup volumes,
   0 recovery plan files; 0 errors
encountered.

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Re: Good or bad idea?...offsite disk.

2007-04-16 Thread Park, Rod
I have a TSM server version 5.3.3.1 running on AIX. Database is 70GB, I
recently moved the db and log vols off of 500GB SATA drives to internal
drives on the AIX box. I have the dbvols spread across 8 disks and
mirrored within TSM on 8 separate internal disks. Everything is much
faster now with the exception of expire inventory, it runs for several
hours now as opposed to just a couple hours before. Right now, my expire
inventory has been running for an hour and has been stuck where it is in
the example below. I don't see anything in the activity logs. Any
idears?

tsm: TSMCORP3q pr

 Process Process Description  Status

  Number
 
-
   2,301 Expiration   Examined 304 objects, deleting 272
backup
   objects, 0 archive objects, 0 DB
backup volumes,
   0 recovery plan files; 0 errors
encountered.

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Re: Recovery Log Pinned

2007-02-07 Thread Park, Rod
Kinda weird...i had the exact same thing happen yesterday and I've never
seen it before either. We had to halt/restart to fix the problem..

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Mark Stapleton
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:35 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Recovery Log Pinned

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Choudarapu, Ramakrishna (GTI)
Looks like this pin is 'stubborn', as the successful completion of the
database backup for last three days, did not clear the log. AFAIK, this
has not happened before.

What would happen to the uncommitted transactions if the TSM service is
recycled?

[SNIP]

Can't say, although I've never lost any TSM db data when forced to run
HALT on the server; I suspect that forces a log commit as part of an
orderly shutdown.

If you've got time, I'd log a call with Tivoli support and set a ticket
for this. They may want to gather some data on the situation, time and
your situation permitting. This is the first stubborn log pin with no
obvious cause I've heard of since 5.3 came into being.

What size is your recovery log?

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Delete copypool data

2007-01-25 Thread Park, Rod
We might have a change in policy where we no longer need a 2nd copy of
certain storage pools. If this were the case, would it be ok for me to
just delete volume with discarddata=yes on those volumes, or when I
discarddata does that affect my primary tape pool also. Looks like I'll
be able to free up about 4,000 offsite tapes, but I don't want to affect
my primary tapes. I am running version 5.3.3.1.can anybody advise
please?

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insufficient space in subordinate storage pool

2006-10-23 Thread Park, Rod
I have a tsm server at level 5.3.3.1. I have a disk pool that does
migrations to tapepool for any data 90 days or older. I have been
getting the following message:

10/23/06   08:34:27  ANR1025W Migration process 109294 terminated
for storage
  pool NT_DISKPOOL - insufficient space in
subordinate
  storage pool.(SESSION: 142746)


My tapepool looks like this:

tsm: TSMCORP3q vol stg=tapepool

Volume Name  Storage Device Estimated
Pct  Volume
 Pool Name   Class Name  Capacity
Util  Status
 --- -- -
- 
T03420   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
10.1 Filling
T08313   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
8.6 Filling
T08409   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
24.5 Filling
T08412   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.2 Filling
T08420   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.0 Filling
T08424   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
3.1 Filling
T08473   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.3 Filling
T08499   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
1.2 Filling
T08528   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
0.8 Filling
T08554   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
3.2 Filling

Tapepool is not set to collocate. If I set maxscr=15 then my migration
will continue and use the tapes listed above, it doesn't go out and grab
scratches and label them in the tapepool and use those. Question is, why
isn't the migration processes using the 10 tapes I have out there that
are filling before I update maxscr. I checked them and they are all
read-write.

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Re: FW: Tape Drive Choices: What, and why?

2006-08-09 Thread Park, Rod
Yeh...i agree Joe. We have the same situation here. We have a 3583 with
LTO2 in a test/DR environment and it is painful to work with it, load
failures, locks up, you name it, just very inconsistent behavior. No
drive failures though and we have LTO2 in it. We also have a 3584 in our
production environment with 5 frames and 60 LTO2 drives and very little
problems. Like you eluded to, I just don't believe 3583 was ever meant
to be a real enterprise backup workload type library. We are very
please with our 3584 and LTO2 though.


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As soon as you said 3583, I felt the pain in my backside twinge.  It is
of
no wonder that they discontinued the 3583 [EMAIL PROTECTED]* garbage (as you 
put
it).  The drives we have used in it are very stable, but the loader, and
library are constantly having problems.  Of course, IBM continuously
blames the drive for the problems, but after swapping drive after drive,
the loader replacement is the thing that usually fixes the problem.

We have a 3583 library that I would not suggest for anyone except in
very
light duty (currently has LTO1 drives). It goes out once every month (or
less).

Then we have a 3584 library with full redundancy and the service bays
running as 4 logical libraries on two backup softwares.  It is very rare
that we have any problems.  Occaisionally, we get a stuck LTO1 tape, but
with care have not lost any.  Our LTO1 and LTO2 drives are workhorses.
They are busy for up to 22 hours a day.  I am very pleased with the 3584
technologies.




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You won't get that sentiment from me.

As I have said in the past, my experience with LTO2 and 3583 library is
that they are [EMAIL PROTECTED]* garbage.  Even IBM stated that LTO was never
designed to handle the load we are putting through them (we have over
400
tapes in use per 3583-L72 library).   Every drive we purchased has been
replaced AT LEAST twice, in the past 1.5-years we have had LTO
drives/libraries.  The libraries need to be power cycled at least once
a
week, sometimes more (absolutely every piece of firmware/software
between
the AIX systems and the libraries themselves, have been updated to the
latest available - no it's not power - everything is on
UPS/battery/conditioned).

This is why we are moving to 3592-E05 drives.  Besides the capacity
difference, the reliability we have seen with 3590 drives (even those
that
are 10+ years old), far exceeds the LTO's.  We mount 1000's of 3590
tapes,
daily.  If we have 1-failure in 2-3 weeks, that is rare.

Granted the 3592-E05 drives are new and disposable/FRU technology vs.
field-repairable, so time will tell.




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 On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:37:37 -0400, Paul Zarnowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

 This was more true with LTO-1 than with -2 or -3.  The later
 generation drives can vary their speed to try to match the data rate,
 thus avoiding some backhitching.  But Tom is correct that the motors
 in the 3592 drives are probably bigger and more powerful, and can
 thus backhitch more quickly.  (this is my guess, not fact)


If I recall correctly, the superior 3592 backhitch was related to a
special track (servo track?) which permitted precise high-speed
positioning.  This also aids general purpose seek behavior. The
varying speeds would certainly help.

The basic summary of the responses I've gotten offline is that LTO is
doing much better than it had initially; it seems that the current
3592s still have an edge, but not nearly so broad as was the case.

Most interestingly, I didn't see any particular discussion about any
tech _other_ than LTO or 3592, apart from one Pulled back a bloody
stump story about helical-scan.

This meshes neatly with a campus-level query I sent out a few weeks
back; to my surprise, LTO utterly dominated that list of tape techs,
too. Discussion of other tech lines was all in the past tense.  It
appears that the LTO alliance has kicked tush and taken names.  Rawk
On.


- Allen S. Rout


Re: Another D/R question

2006-07-12 Thread Park, Rod
We do a daily sysback to tape which also goes offsite which has all of
the DRM info and volhist,devconfig,dsmserv.dskall pertinent files
needed for restore.

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We've never used the DRM module in TSM -- it was far too expensive when
we first started, so we rolled our own procedures (which work quite
well, I might add :-) but I'd like to look at DRM now that it's part of
the suite.

So -- for those of you using DRM -- how do you get the plan file and
associated scripts off-site? I'm running on AIX; the system has the TSM
tape library and a DVD-RAM drive. The hotsite system is in the same boat
-- so floppy is out. And a mksysb to the DVD drive takes about 4 hours
to write, so that won't be a daily occurance.

TIA

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Dsmc memory leak

2006-07-11 Thread Park, Rod
 I'm sure this has been discussed in past...the dsmc sch process
slowly has a memory leak over time and the only way to free it up is to
kill the process and let it respawn. We are at version 5.2.2.9 on AIX
5.3.3 Does anybody know if this has been fixed on any later versions of
the ba client...thanks


Rod


Migdelay explanation

2006-07-07 Thread Park, Rod
 Could someone in the group please explain to me how migdelay works. I
am wanting to setup a disk pool to migrate data 90 days old. I was under
the impression that when data was 90 days or older it would
automatically migrate to next pool. I was told that one thing that would
happen is, as soon as data became 90 days old, it could migrate at
anytime during the night, so I wanted to control that, so I setup a job
to set migdelay 90 in the mornings and then set it back a few hours
later to 0. So far, I haven't seen it migrate anything off. I was then
told NO you have to set you hi/lo thresholds down to kick migration
off but then that gets your oldest data first but it doesn't stop there
it will keep migrating until your low threshold is met so it could
migrate data newer than 90 days. Clear as mud? This is our 3rd tsm
server, but a new one. I am on AIX 5.3TL4 TSM 5.3.3.1. Sorry if this has
already been covered at some point by this group. Thanks in
advance.Rod.


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Re: Migdelay explanation

2006-07-07 Thread Park, Rod
Yeh...that was it. Mark got me set straight. Thanks for the help.

Rod

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You have to check the migcontinue parameter. If it is at YES (the
default) it will not take into account the migdelay parameter when doing
migrations


Guillaume Gilbert
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I have that setup on one of my pools.
Hi and lo are set to 0 and never change, and it only migrates data over
the migdelay value...


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Subject: Migdelay explanation


 Could someone in the group please explain to me how migdelay works. I
am wanting to setup a disk pool to migrate data 90 days old. I was under
the impression that when data was 90 days or older it would
automatically migrate to next pool. I was told that one thing that would
happen is, as soon as data became 90 days old, it could migrate at
anytime during the night, so I wanted to control that, so I setup a job
to set migdelay 90 in the mornings and then set it back a few hours
later to 0. So far, I haven't seen it migrate anything off. I was then
told NO you have to set you hi/lo thresholds down to kick migration
off but then that gets your oldest data first but it doesn't stop there
it will keep migrating until your low threshold is met so it could
migrate data newer than 90 days. Clear as mud? This is our 3rd tsm
server, but a new one. I am on AIX 5.3TL4 TSM 5.3.3.1. Sorry if this has
already been covered at some point by this group. Thanks in
advance.Rod.


Rod Park
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Re: Random Access Disk Pools

2006-04-05 Thread Park, Rod
So, can someone explain the difference at the TSM level and aggregate
level. Really I'm trying to understand, if I have a primary disk pool
that does not migrate, it will be the final onsite resting place of
data. As data expires and fragmentation occurs. That space is unusable
if I'm not migrating to another primary area? Eventually I'll have to
allocate more? Below is what comparison doc showed as consideration of
fragmentation for random access pools. Guess I'm not sure what the diff
is between tsm level and aggregate level.

TSM level - fragmentation will occur as TSM allocates and frees space
within the Storage Pool.  Migration tends to relieve this fragmentation

Aggregate level - fragmentation occurs as files expire within an
aggregate.  DISK pools cannot reclaim this wasted space until all files
in the aggregate have expired

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See http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0uid=swg21218415 for
comparison of disk vs devclass=file


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Let me ask again because I didn't get much feedback. How do we find the
thread limit, and can people weigh in on whether they use big disk pools
(50TB-200TB). The advantages/disadvantages of big disk pools versus
devclass=file any gotchas either way. We are looking at buy a lot more
disk and creating big diskpools to land data on and be the primary pool
instead of tape. Thank in advance.

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We found the limit.  There are some posts in this forum from the first
of the year about the problem we ran into.

Andy Huebner

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We use random access pools, how do you know what your thread limit
iswe've never had any issues with ours but we're thinking about
adding a lot more. What's the biggest reason you do/don't use
devclass=file over disk storage poolsarguments either way?

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Be careful with how many disk pool volumes you create.  Each volume uses
1 thread, add this to all of the other threads in use, our TSM server
would die at around 1800 active threads.

Andy Huebner

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I have heard in the past that random access disk pools can become
fragmented and practically unusable after a while.  I was wondering
if anyone sees this in the real world?  I posted the other day about
managing predefined volumes in a file type devclass, and the only
answer I got said they were using random access pools.  I would MUCH
rather have a random access pool, so if there is no problem with
this, I will convert over to random access.  Thanks for any input.

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Re: Random Access Disk Pools

2006-04-04 Thread Park, Rod
Let me ask again because I didn't get much feedback. How do we find the
thread limit, and can people weigh in on whether they use big disk pools
(50TB-200TB). The advantages/disadvantages of big disk pools versus
devclass=file any gotchas either way. We are looking at buy a lot more
disk and creating big diskpools to land data on and be the primary pool
instead of tape. Thank in advance.

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We found the limit.  There are some posts in this forum from the first
of the year about the problem we ran into.

Andy Huebner

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We use random access pools, how do you know what your thread limit
iswe've never had any issues with ours but we're thinking about
adding a lot more. What's the biggest reason you do/don't use
devclass=file over disk storage poolsarguments either way?

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Be careful with how many disk pool volumes you create.  Each volume uses
1 thread, add this to all of the other threads in use, our TSM server
would die at around 1800 active threads.

Andy Huebner

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Subject: [ADSM-L] Random Access Disk Pools

I have heard in the past that random access disk pools can become
fragmented and practically unusable after a while.  I was wondering
if anyone sees this in the real world?  I posted the other day about
managing predefined volumes in a file type devclass, and the only
answer I got said they were using random access pools.  I would MUCH
rather have a random access pool, so if there is no problem with
this, I will convert over to random access.  Thanks for any input.

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Re: TSM server automation products

2006-03-31 Thread Park, Rod
I believe ServerGraph and TSMManager both say they have the
functionality. We have a pretty sizable TSM environment here...3 TSM
servers 10TB b/u a night, 3584 1700 slots 60 drives and we do not have
scripts to do any of the daily housekeeping. We use tsm scripts and
scheduler and it runs fine. What do you have that is so complex that it
has to be scripted outside of TSM's functionality.

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Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM server automation products

My site has a rather large Perl script that controls the daily
housekeeping cycle (storage pool backups, database backups, tape
movement, and so on). The script also detects a variety of
error conditions and reports them to our operations staff. My
management is convinced that we can buy an off the shelf product
that will replace 80 percent of the Perl code. Does such a
product exist?

In particular, does ServerGraph provide this kind of functionality?
Their Web site mentions automation, but does not seem to have any
information on the automation features beyond the assertion that
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Re: 5.3.2 server

2006-03-30 Thread Park, Rod
Andy,
That's interesting. Did this level actually fix your problem. We are at
5.3.2.3 and still have the repair stgvol problem. We have on open pmr
with them, but supposedly there is still an open apar to address repair
stgvol. We had this problem again just yesterday.really a pain
because it does not send any errors anywhere...everything just kinda
gets hung and waits around for mounts and so forth. Anyway, we are
putting some alerts out there to tell us when a repair stgvol kicks off
so we can see if it completes successfully or hangs but just curious if
your issues went away completely.

Thanks,

Rod

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I don't know what level you came from, but we had to put on 5.3.2.3 to
fix repair stgvol hanging TSM.

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5.3.2.2 volume question

2006-02-16 Thread Park, Rod
I recently upgraded to 5.3.2.2 server level, about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I
have 2 tsm servers, tsm1 and tsm2, each share a 3589 library with 5
frames 60 drives.  tsm1 is the library manager. We have been noticing
lately that when we run a report to show private, scratches, dbb vols,
we have a column of private tapes that increases everyday that are
really supposed to be scratch tapes. What I have found is, when
reclamation runs on tsm2 for primary tape pools, it marks the tape as
deleted and ready for scratch like it should, but on tsm1, it still
shows the tape as private, if you q  vol on either tsm server, they
know nothing about the tape, but again q libvol shows the tape as
private like below:

TSMLIB1  T01779  PrivateTSMCORP1
1,054   LTO

I can check the tape out and recheck it in as scratch and it will be
used as scratch from there out. I went back and checked our reports, and
before the upgrade, we had 3-5 tapes in the status, now we have 140, If
I look at the daily reports each day, it grows each day from the day we
did the upgrade. So, has anybody else seen this with 5.3.2.2 or any
other ideas on what might be causing this.


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Re: 5.3.2.2 volume question

2006-02-16 Thread Park, Rod
Sorrythat was a typo on previous message, we have a 3584, not a
3589.

 _
 From: Park, Rod
 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:53 AM
 To:   'ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU'
 Subject:  5.3.2.2 volume question

 I recently upgraded to 5.3.2.2 server level, about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I
 have 2 tsm servers, tsm1 and tsm2, each share a 3589 library with 5
 frames 60 drives.  tsm1 is the library manager. We have been noticing
 lately that when we run a report to show private, scratches, dbb vols,
 we have a column of private tapes that increases everyday that are
 really supposed to be scratch tapes. What I have found is, when
 reclamation runs on tsm2 for primary tape pools, it marks the tape as
 deleted and ready for scratch like it should, but on tsm1, it still
 shows the tape as private, if you q  vol on either tsm server, they
 know nothing about the tape, but again q libvol shows the tape as
 private like below:

 TSMLIB1  T01779  PrivateTSMCORP1
 1,054   LTO

 I can check the tape out and recheck it in as scratch and it will be
 used as scratch from there out. I went back and checked our reports,
 and before the upgrade, we had 3-5 tapes in the status, now we have
 140, If I look at the daily reports each day, it grows each day from
 the day we did the upgrade. So, has anybody else seen this with
 5.3.2.2 or any other ideas on what might be causing this.


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AIX 5.3 upgrade issues?

2005-05-16 Thread Park, Rod
Hello all,
I recently upgrade my tsm servers to AIX 5.3 ML1 running tsm 5.2.3.3
since our aix upgrade, our database backups went from 20-35 minutes per
server to about 2-4 hrsanybody else experienced this and any
suggestions? This is the only significant event that has happened to
lead me to believe maybe it was the aix upgrade that. Actually
expiration seems to run longer...more b/u sessions still running every
morning when I come in than normal...so overall tsm system performance
seems to be suffering...thanks in advance for any help


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Re: TSM migration from 5.1 to 5.2

2004-08-26 Thread Park, Rod
Just curious Why would you not do an audit DB and what all does an audit
DB do?

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No!

I would not do an audit db if I dont have been told to do one by IBM
support, or if I have strong evidence that I need to do an audit.

The upgrade itself does not require an audit db!

//Henrik




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Hi:
We are getting set for the migration from TSM 5.1 to 5.2.
For people who have already done this, did you precede the install of
the 5.2 software with an 'audit db fix=yes'?




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Passwords for client restores

2004-08-20 Thread Park, Rod
 Right now we have about 800 clients and to do a restore, the password is
the same for all clients. How are others doing this. We don't want to be in
the business of password generation/maintenance to change passwords all the
time. We also don't want just anybody being able to do a restore on any box
because the passwords are the same everywhere. We are probably going to get
hammered by auditors before long about having the same password. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.


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