TDP for Oracle monitoring
What is the easiest way to determine the number of bytes transferred for a TDP for Oracle backup (full or incremental). The backups are client driven with multiple sessions. The activity log shows bytes sent (ANE499I) for each session started, but I'm sure there's an easier way to compile this info rather than manually adding bytes sent (ANE499I) for the duration of the backup. thx.
client code download
Can anyone tell me where on the IBM web site I can download the tsm backup archive client? w/out having to log in as a registered user.
Re: remote agent
Andy, Thanks, what would cause a connection refused. I'm defined on server w/ proper passwords etc... here's what I supply on http://xxx.xx.xxx.xxx:1581/ of course the x's are a real ip address. Any ideas? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: remote agent You're not supposed to manually start this. Just start the CAD. The first time you try the Web GUI, the CAD will automatically start the remote agent for you. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/2003 10:24 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:remote agent Unable to start the remote agent. Running XP Professional central scheduler installed and started successfully CAD installed and started successfully Remoteagent installed but gives the below error when I try to start it. Could not start the TSM AGENT services on local computer Error 0x: 0x Any suggestions??? Regards, Joe
TDP for oracle set up
Client info Oracle v9.2 TDP v 2.2.0 (64 bit api) TSM v 4.2.2 Solaris v 2.8 Server zOS running TSM Server 4.2.2.9 I'm trying to run TDPOCONF PASSWORD to authenticate the client to the server. I get prompted for the password, enter it... and then get the following error message: ANS0263E (RC2230) Either the dsm.sys file was not found, or the Inclexcl file specified in the dsm.sys was not found Both files exist and the permissions are correct Any help Regards, Joe
remote agent
Unable to start the remote agent. Running XP Professional central scheduler installed and started successfully CAD installed and started successfully Remoteagent installed but gives the below error when I try to start it. Could not start the TSM AGENT services on local computer Error 0x: 0x Any suggestions??? Regards, Joe
TDP monitoring
Tyring to get a general survey of how TSMers managing large scale deployments of TDP for Oracle. Since it's a client driven process (in our environment), the success or failure is difficult to monitor. Also, TDPOSYNC requires information only the DBAs would know. e.g.Catalog user name Catalog Password Catalog Connect String How do most people manage that? How do you keep a DBA honest and make sure he runs it? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe
Re: TDP monitoring
Bill, How would you pass this info on the command line as it prompts you for it when you execute TDPOSYNC. Catalog user name Catalog Password Catalog Connect String -Original Message- From: Bill Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring Let your DBA create the shell scripts and RMAN scripts for the backups and TDPOSYNC, then YOU schedule them via TSM. Create a command schedule that SU's to the Oracle user and runs the shell script(s). The result is then posted as the completion code for the schedule event. The DBA (or whoever creates the shell scripts) needs to make sure and return from the script with an meaningfull code. Like su - ORACLE -c /path/to/shell/script.sh Bill Boyer My problem was caused by a loose screw at the keyboard - ?? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TDP monitoring Tyring to get a general survey of how TSMers managing large scale deployments of TDP for Oracle. Since it's a client driven process (in our environment), the success or failure is difficult to monitor. Also, TDPOSYNC requires information only the DBAs would know. e.g.Catalog user name Catalog Password Catalog Connect String How do most people manage that? How do you keep a DBA honest and make sure he runs it? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe
RPM packages for TSM v 5.1.5 i386
I'm trying to get a copy TSM server for Linux to test. Is there any way I can procure it on a trial basis? My company has an enterprise license for IBM products, but it seems Tivoli is not included in that.
Re: TSM server on Linux
Thanks Christian, Anyone else have experience w/ this? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Christian Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM server on Linux Hi Joseph! I have try to get it to work in a Red Hat 8. But I can not instell TSM on it. But if I have Red Hat 7.3 and install TSM and upgrade the kernal and X Windows to Ver 8. Then is everything works perfect. Got a better performance with Red Hat 8. Good Look Med Vänliga Hälsningar/Best Regards Christian Svensson --- Cristie Nordic AB Box 2 SE-131 06 Nacka Sweden Phone : +46-(0)8-641 96 30 Mobil : +46-(0)70-325 15 77 eMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JWholey@EXCHANGEcc: .ML.COM Subject: TSM server on Linux Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-01-30 21:59 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Does TSM server run on RedHat v8.0, intel platform? If not, what versions of Linux does it run on (other than the mainframe)?
TSM server on Linux
Does TSM server run on RedHat v8.0, intel platform? If not, what versions of Linux does it run on (other than the mainframe)?
Re: TSM server on Linux
Yes, it runs under VM. -Original Message- From: Zlatko Krastev/ACIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM server on Linux It does but is not supported. And for sure there is no TSM server for Linux on mainframe. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.01.2003 22:59 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:TSM server on Linux Does TSM server run on RedHat v8.0, intel platform? If not, what versions of Linux does it run on (other than the mainframe)?
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Re: TSM in a MS Cluster environment
Bruce, Was it an active/passive or active/active cluster environment. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM in a MS Cluster environment I set it up is the same way. Three schedulers 3 opt files. One thing to make sure is that you build both sides of the cluster before adding the registry key replication in the cluster resource. Documentation isn't specific on this Caused me about 3 days on the phone with level 1 level 2 support I ended up figuring it out on my own by dumb luck! Hope this helps! --- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597 Fax: (954) 985-1404 --- -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM in a MS Cluster environment I'm about to install TSM in a MS cluster environment. I've done this with success in the past in an active/active environment where each server has 3 TSM scheduler services. e.g. local scheduler, scheduler_service_for_group_A, scheduler_service_for_group_B. I've not done it in an active/passive environment where all resources normally belong to the active server. The documentation is very vague. Here are my questions. How many nodes will I have? How many scheduler services will I have on each server? Do both nodes share one cluster dsm.opt file that resides in the same directory? Does anyone have step by step doc for an active/passive TSM cluster server install? thx. Regards, Joe
Re: TSM in a MS Cluster environment
Manuel, This does help... I have only one group. Can I, for example, put the dsm.opt file on an H drive, and have both client 1 and 2 point to that dsm.opt file. So if server 1 fails, server 2 will start up the group scheduler and manage the backups. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Manuel Schweiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM in a MS Cluster environment Joe, You will need to set up 1 TSM client for each cluster node and 1 TSM client for each cluster group. Best to do a simple example on this: Cluster: 2 Nodes, 3 Groups Installation Node 1: TSM Client Local1 TSM Client Group1 TSM Client Group2 TSM Client Group3 Every group has its own schedulers, client acceptors and remote agents (those of group1-3 have to switch with the cluster).. Installation Node 2: TSM Client Local2 TSM Client Group1 TSM Client Group2 TSM Client Group3 (Group 1-3 have to be set up exactly like on Node 1!!) Hope that helps a little. regards, Manuel - Original Message - From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: TSM in a MS Cluster environment I'm about to install TSM in a MS cluster environment. I've done this with success in the past in an active/active environment where each server has 3 TSM scheduler services. e.g. local scheduler, scheduler_service_for_group_A, scheduler_service_for_group_B. I've not done it in an active/passive environment where all resources normally belong to the active server. The documentation is very vague. Here are my questions. How many nodes will I have? How many scheduler services will I have on each server? Do both nodes share one cluster dsm.opt file that resides in the same directory? Does anyone have step by step doc for an active/passive TSM cluster server install? thx. Regards, Joe
Oracle v9.2 and TDP for Oracle
Anyone know when or if there are plans for TDP to support Oracle v9.2?
Re: Oracle v9.2 and TDP for Oracle
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TDP for Oracle
Can the 32 bit verstion of TDP co-exist with the 64 bit version. i.e. can they run concurrently on the same client?
client configuration for DB2
How would you prevent the following problem/scenario from occuring? One client Two separate instances Each instance has a DB by the same name. e.g.Client1 InstX has a DBa InstY has a DBa If you issue a q fi of InstX's DBa, you can see IntY's filespace. How can you prevent this? Regards, Joe
TDP for Oracle and backing up DB2 with TSM
Here's an easy one... How do most people set up their TDP nodes/filesystems for the following... First TDPO (this is how I was going to set it up) One client with multiple Databases (13) one unique node name per database one unique filesystem per database. Backing up DB2 with TSM if you have multiple DBs on the same client, do you want these DBs to have unique node names and filespace names? Also, do most people create separate domains for different databases or can it they both reside in the same Database domain. Any recommendations as to how others are doing this would be greatly appreciated. Don't want to set up a whole environmet incorrectly. Regards, Joe
TDPO for Oracle v 9.2
Is TDPO for Oracle v 9.2 supported?
TDP for MS SQL
What are the copygroup settings for MS SQL? Do they work similarly to TDP for oracle... i.e. vde(1), vdd(0), rev(0), rov(0)? Again, the documentation is very lite. Any simple explanation would be apprecieated. Regards, Joe
TDP for Oracle and Multiple DBs
The TDP for Oracle documentation is a little lite... need a little assistance with the following questions. 1. If multiple Oracle Databases reside on same client, is it recommended to write them to their own filespace on TSM Server? 2. If so... do I need multiple tdpo.opt files for each database instance? 3. (this is kind of broad) what are the ramifications of multiple instance of Oracle (different versions) running on same client? what are the ramifications of multiple instance of RMAN (different versions) running on same client? 4. How do you tell what version of Tivoli Storage Manager API is running? any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe
TDP for Oracle Configuration
If I'm going to have multiple Oracle Databases on the same client, each with it's own node_name and filespace (specified in the tdpo.opt file) all pointing to a domain called DATABASE, does the nodename in the dsm.opt file for the TSM client need to be registered to the DATABASE domain? Can the TSM client (non tdp) be registered to a domain other than DATABASE? Will the TDPO backups work? Regards, Joe
Re: adsm.org unusable
Paul, I haven't had any problems with the site, however, it is not very intuitive. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:seay_pd;NAPTHEON.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: adsm.org unusable I posted the information on this the other day. You do not have to login. Just select the ADSM-L archives in that left bar area. It will take you to the search engine area. I have found that Netscape 4.76 does not work with this site. However, search.adsm.org does look like a better choice. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Nelson, Doug [mailto:DNelson;CHITTENDEN.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: adsm.org unusable Try http://search.adsm.org/ it works for me. I agree about the home page (adsm.org). Douglas C. Nelson Distributed Computing Consultant Alltel Information Services Chittenden Data Center 2 Burlington Square Burlington, Vt. 05401 802-660-2336 -Original Message- From: Kai Hintze [mailto:kai.hintze;ALBERTSONS.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: adsm.org unusable What happened to adsm.org? I tried to go and look for something in the archives but they weren't there! Instead the site was some funky discussion board with several columns. The meat of the board was the middle column. But the column was too narrow so I couldn't see an entire message without scrolling left and right, but the scroll bar was two screens below the message so I couldn't ever read an entire message. The right hand column was a poll that didn't let me participate. The left hand column invited me to log in, and had numerous resource lists--one of which was the archives, but I STILL CAN'T READ THEM BECAUSE THE COLUMN IS TOO NARROW! And I DON'T want yet another place to log in. Please, _please_, PLEASE give me back the archives. - Kai
TDPO.OPT/filespace Question
I have 3 Oracle databases (DB1, DB2, DB3) that reside on SERVERA. I'm going to call the client SERVERA_ORA. Should I point to 3 distinct tdpo.opt files so I can create 3 distinct file spaces? 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB1/tdpo.opt)' 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB2/tdpo.opt)' 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB3/tdpo.opt)' Any suggestions would be appreciated. thx. -jgw-
Re: TDPO.OPT/filespace Question
Then how do I create distinct filespaces for each database as is suggested? -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:David.Longo;HEALTH-FIRST.ORG] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDPO.OPT/filespace Question No, not unless you have a reason for doing so. Like if these DB's are for different applications or something like that. It depends on your DBA's requirements and how Oracle and RMAN is setup. More complicated to do it with 3, so don't unless necessary. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 02:05PM I have 3 Oracle databases (DB1, DB2, DB3) that reside on SERVERA. I'm going to call the client SERVERA_ORA. Should I point to 3 distinct tdpo.opt files so I can create 3 distinct file spaces? 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB1/tdpo.opt)' 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB2/tdpo.opt)' 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=.../DB3/tdpo.opt)' Any suggestions would be appreciated. thx. -jgw- MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/24/2002 03:47:39 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
AIX client version recommendations
I'm about to upgrade TSM clients (v3.1.0.6 and v4.1.3.0) on AIX and Sun platforms backing up to TSM server 4.2.2.9 on Z/OS. Does anyone have any recommendations as to what client version I should go with and any caveats I should be aware of? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe
recovery log filling
Environment: TSM SERVER: 4.1.3.0 S/390 We're currently in the process of consolidating 4 TSM servers into 1. Over the course of about 3 weeks we've been redirecting clients to the new server. Originally this new TSM server was in logmode roll forward. As the volume to this server increased (incrementals and base incrementals running nightly), our recovery log could not handle the volume. We changed logmode to normal. Last night this server processed 1.4 million files. Backups started to fail due to a recovery log full condition. On prior nights this server's processed well over 2 million files and the recovery log did not fill. What's the determining factor? Also, in normal mode, what determines when the recovery log clears? Regards, Joe
Re: command file execution
Don, Veritas, in conjunction with Tivoli wrote an API for Backup Exec to TSM communication. It's installed on the Backup Exec side with the IBM ADSM option that Backup Exec provides (it's an add on). I don't know exactly how it works under the covers, that's difficult info to obtain from either IBM and/or Veritas. As for the strange output you see from the show session command, that's correct. Platform: LA4701S001: pulled from a Veritas Registry entry (that we hack) is the name of the Server ID: LA4701S001BE: also pulled from a Veritas Registry entry (we also hack) is to differentiate the Backup Exec session from a plain old vanilla TSM node. Also, the last event was definitely not a restore in this instance. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Don France [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: command file execution Joe, Are you using Win2K's RSM (rather than TSM driver) for library manager? (How did you connect the BackupExec service to TSM library manager?) The output from the show session looks strange -- it indicates the last event was restore, and that it ended, but Platform ID should be WinNT; rather it looks like (maybe) the service-id? Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca (408) 257-3037 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: command file execution Don, I agree with all that you state below... and that is how I thought it worked as well. Here's what's really happening in my case though. I execute a command schedule to recycle Backup Exec services on NT servers (we use Backup Exec to backup 100s of Exchange servers to TSM). We have Backup Exec set up to use TSM as its robotic library (virtual device). Once the Backup Exec services come back up, Backup Exec creates a session with TSM to confirm the robotic library that it's connecting to. This connection hangs out on the TSM server until the idletimout parm in TSM kicks it out. NOTE: Backup Exec is a Veritas backup product that we use to backup only Exchange data. Below is the output of a show session command of 1 of the sessions that I'm referring to. THE QUESTION: Does Last Verb ( EndTxn ), Last Verb State ( Sent ) mean that TSM sent a message back to the client to end the session? Is this a problem with my Veritas Backup Exec software? Why does this session stay in the system? Session 24806:Type=Node, Id=LA4701S001BE Platform=LA4701S001, NodeId=119, Owner=LA4701S001 SessType=4, Index=1, TermReason=0 RecvWaitTime=0.000 (samples=0) Backup Objects ( bytes ) Inserted: 0 ( 0.0 ) Backup Objects ( bytes ) Restored: 1 ( 0.1035 ) Archive Objects ( bytes ) Inserted: 0 ( 0.0 ) Archive Objects ( bytes ) Retrieved: 0 ( 0.0 ) Last Verb ( EndTxn ), Last Verb State ( Sent ) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Don France [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 3:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: command file execution The command file is launched, that's all; there is no connection to break, per se -- all that happens is the dsmc schedule daemon gets the command (from the server's schedule arguments, of course), closes the session (if prompted scheduling is used) and executes the command. (The client already has the command args, in polling-type schedules, so there would be no session at all, unless/until the command script initiates a dsmc command.) The connection between server and client for launching a command file ends as soon as the data gets passed to the client-scheduler daemon... BEFORE the command file even runs (essentially). To see this in action, match the actlog entries with the dsmsched.log info; unless you are using server-prompted scheduling, there is no session/connection between TSM client TSM server until/unless the command script contains a session-creating command (like dsmc). Most folks will likely have a dsmc args (or similar) in the command file, which creates a session with TSM server to run whatever the args say. Upon completion of dsmc command, that completion terminates associated sessions. Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca (408) 257-3037 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: command file execution An easy one... When
Re: command file execution
Don, I agree with all that you state below... and that is how I thought it worked as well. Here's what's really happening in my case though. I execute a command schedule to recycle Backup Exec services on NT servers (we use Backup Exec to backup 100s of Exchange servers to TSM). We have Backup Exec set up to use TSM as its robotic library (virtual device). Once the Backup Exec services come back up, Backup Exec creates a session with TSM to confirm the robotic library that it's connecting to. This connection hangs out on the TSM server until the idletimout parm in TSM kicks it out. NOTE: Backup Exec is a Veritas backup product that we use to backup only Exchange data. Below is the output of a show session command of 1 of the sessions that I'm referring to. THE QUESTION: Does Last Verb ( EndTxn ), Last Verb State ( Sent ) mean that TSM sent a message back to the client to end the session? Is this a problem with my Veritas Backup Exec software? Why does this session stay in the system? Session 24806:Type=Node, Id=LA4701S001BE Platform=LA4701S001, NodeId=119, Owner=LA4701S001 SessType=4, Index=1, TermReason=0 RecvWaitTime=0.000 (samples=0) Backup Objects ( bytes ) Inserted: 0 ( 0.0 ) Backup Objects ( bytes ) Restored: 1 ( 0.1035 ) Archive Objects ( bytes ) Inserted: 0 ( 0.0 ) Archive Objects ( bytes ) Retrieved: 0 ( 0.0 ) Last Verb ( EndTxn ), Last Verb State ( Sent ) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Don France [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 3:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: command file execution The command file is launched, that's all; there is no connection to break, per se -- all that happens is the dsmc schedule daemon gets the command (from the server's schedule arguments, of course), closes the session (if prompted scheduling is used) and executes the command. (The client already has the command args, in polling-type schedules, so there would be no session at all, unless/until the command script initiates a dsmc command.) The connection between server and client for launching a command file ends as soon as the data gets passed to the client-scheduler daemon... BEFORE the command file even runs (essentially). To see this in action, match the actlog entries with the dsmsched.log info; unless you are using server-prompted scheduling, there is no session/connection between TSM client TSM server until/unless the command script contains a session-creating command (like dsmc). Most folks will likely have a dsmc args (or similar) in the command file, which creates a session with TSM server to run whatever the args say. Upon completion of dsmc command, that completion terminates associated sessions. Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca (408) 257-3037 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: command file execution An easy one... When initiating the execution of a command file from the server to the client via schedule (the command file resides on client), what breaks the connection between the server and the client after the command file completes execution? Is it the Idletimeout parm? Is there another way to break the connection after the cmd sched executes? Regards, Joe
Re: Testing v4.2
Michael, Check your dsm.opt file. You probably have most stuff excluded. What you're probably seeing backed up is directory structures (without the actual files). Take a look. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Michael Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Testing v4.2 I am testing v4.2 of the TSM server for OS/390. I have found the following problems, or are they problems: 1) I defined a new node MANAGE_ME to the TSM 4.2 server. This is the first backup for this node on this server. No filespaces exist for this on this server for this node. When I run the backup (either via scheduler, or command), I only backup 429 mb. This node has a 3.2gb disk drive, with 796mb used. It does not look like everything is being backed up.Missing about 300mb. 2) When the backup completes, no information is related back to the server. In the previous version we would see the backup statistics for each node in the server JESLOG. In this version, it seems as though the information is not there. For instance the following information (this information is from the dsmsched.log on the node): 07/16/2002 08:59:16 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects inspected:8,761 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects backed up:8,720 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects updated: 0 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects rebound: 0 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects deleted: 0 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects expired: 0 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of objects failed: 0 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Total number of bytes transferred: 429.02 MB 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Data transfer time: 90.46 sec 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Network data transfer rate:4,856.42 KB/sec 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Aggregate data transfer rate:393.52 KB/sec 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Objects compressed by: 37% 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Elapsed processing time: 00:18:36 07/16/2002 08:59:16 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END 07/16/2002 08:59:16 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT END TEST 07/16/2002 08:33:00 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Scheduled event 'TEST' completed successfully. 07/16/2002 08:59:16 Sending results for scheduled event 'TEST'. 07/16/2002 08:59:21 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'TEST' 3) Getting the following messages when trying to run a storage pool backup: 09.02.48 STC12888 IKJ56241I DATA SET TSMT.BFS.V1E NOT ALLOCATED+ 09.02.48 STC12888 IKJ56241I REQUEST REQUIRES MORE NON-SMS MANAGED VOLUMES THAN ARE ELIGIBLE 09.02.48 STC12888 *ANR5035E Dynamic allocation of tape unit 3590-1 failed, return code 4, error 09.02.48 STC12888 *code 624, info code 0. 09.02.48 STC12888 ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 306500 - mount failed. The tape 306500 is not in on of our libraries. The test and production servers are running on the same processor, and everything worked on the test serve prior to upgrade. Thanks for your assistance! Michael Moore VF Services Inc. 121 Smith Street Greensboro, NC 27420-1488 Voice: 336-332-4423 Fax: 336-332-4544
dsm.opt / dsmerror.log / incl/excl oddity
Envirionment A: Client OS: NT 4 Client Version: Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.20 Server: Storage Management Server for MVS - Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.11 Environment B: Client OS: NT 4 Client Version: Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.20 Server: Storage Management Server for MVS - Version 4, Release 1, Level 3.0 These clients are cookie cutter builds Starting from the OS down to the dsm.opt (with the exception of the TSM server they point to). Question: Why is my dsmerror.log filling up with the following messages in environmet B and not A when the directory structure and dsm.opt are identical for both servers? ANS1115W File '\\l06101s001\e$\Services\BUEXECV7\NT\reports\saved\empty' excluded by Include/Exclude list Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Joe
command file execution
An easy one... When initiating the execution of a command file from the server to the client via schedule (the command file resides on client), what breaks the connection between the server and the client after the command file completes execution? Is it the Idletimeout parm? Is there another way to break the connection after the cmd sched executes? Regards, Joe
Re: Server-to-Server
Are you sure it's registered as type=server? -Original Message- From: Remeta, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Server-to-Server Does anyone know if there are any know problems doing server-to-server with the source server being a 4.2.x server and the target server being a 5.1.x server? I'm trying to do a database backup and the 5.1 server keeps coming up saying 'node (Windows) refused - node name not registered' even though the node is registered on the 5.1 server. Thanks in advance, Mark Remeta Seligman Data Corp. 100 Park Avenue New York, NY 10017 Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
dsm.sys / dsm.opt
Are dsm.opt and dsm.sys comapatible across releases. We've just copied these files from a 2.6 client to a 4.2 client. Were there any enhancements, ommissions?
TDP for Oracle session
Probably an easy one for most... What controls the number of TDP for Oracle Sessions that get spawned during an Oracle backup? How can you throttle back or increase? Where can i read about recommendations with respect to number of sessions and amount of memory used on client? I'm relatively new to TDP for Oracle... any help would be appreciated. Regards, Joe
Re: PST Files and Backup Times Revisited
Paul, When you say compact it, what exactly do you mean? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PST Files and Backup Times Revisited This discussion has been circling for the last week and I had not had time to checkout what I am going to point out here. A PST is continually added to the end. As stuff is added it just grows. When you delete the stuff, IT DOES NOT SHRINK by itself. You have to COMPACT it. I took the example of a PST that the properties FOLDER SIZE function said only 53KB was used. That looks great and why do I need to compact it. Take a look at the .PST file from the OS point of view. This one was over 3MB. When I compacted it, it went to 169KB. Guess what not even subfile backup can beat that improvement. So, we need to encourage our users to compact their PSTs regularly. The savings in space to them and backup times could be significant. However, if it is a .PST that is only added to and never anything deleted, subfile is the way to go, and do not compact. I have resolved myself that Bill Gates makes nothing on software. He must make all is money investing in storage companies. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
Re: pst files
You're absolutely correct... I that just occurred to me as I was going to test. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pst files Yeah, but the problem is the PST files are not on the client, they are on the file server. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Peter Pijpelink - P.L.C.S. BV Storage Consultants [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pst files Hi people. look at www.tsmmediamanager.nl under support/tips there you can download the outlook killer program. (smile: I was wrong, we did not wrote this, Microsoft did) Seems Bill also makes suicide software for themselfs haha Greetings Peter At 12:11 10-06-2002 +0200, you wrote: Hi We had this problem before. Our Outlook/Exchange users left their client running over night, which first of all produced a lot of errors, and second of all made backups both take a long time, and also not backing up open PST-files. The solution is to install St Bernard Open File Manager. We have this software running on two large fileservers containing both PST, and PAB-files. Today, all files are backed up, and the backup time is a lot faster. The installation of St Bernard is very easy, and requires a minimum of time. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-06-07 16:38 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:pst files Why do *.pst files take so long to back up? Even those that are not in use. Does anyone have a strategy to back them up in a most efficient manner? We have users that create multiple, large (gigs) *.pst files and it's a requirement that we back them up.
pst files
Why do *.pst files take so long to back up? Even those that are not in use. Does anyone have a strategy to back them up in a most efficient manner? We have users that create multiple, large (gigs) *.pst files and it's a requirement that we back them up.
trace options/info
What manual would have information with regard to tracing the ba client? i.e. syntax, what parms to turn on, what to look for in the output etc...
Microsoft cluster servers yet again
Is anyone aware of known degraded performance when backing up Microsoft Cluster Servers? This data is going to TSMv413 on S/390 where there is no activity during the time of backup. Why so long? There is nothing to indicate where the hold up is in any of our logs (both client and server). Any help would be appreciated. Executing scheduled command now. 06/03/2002 20:21:46 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN DAILY_INCR_BACKUP_8PM 06/03/2002 20:21:45 06/03/2002 23:36:25 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects inspected: 13,115 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects backed up: 103 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects updated: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects rebound: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects deleted: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects expired: 1 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects failed: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of bytes transferred: 5.05 GB 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Data transfer time: 401.17 sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Network data transfer rate:13,215.33 KB/sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Aggregate data transfer rate:453.94 KB/sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Objects compressed by:0% 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Elapsed processing time: 03:14:38 Executing scheduled command now. 06/03/2002 20:21:46 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN DAILY_INCR_BACKUP_8PM 06/03/2002 20:21:45 06/03/2002 23:36:25 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects inspected: 13,115 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects backed up: 103 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects updated: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects rebound: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects deleted: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects expired: 1 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of objects failed: 0 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Total number of bytes transferred: 5.05 GB 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Data transfer time: 401.17 sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Network data transfer rate:13,215.33 KB/sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Aggregate data transfer rate:453.94 KB/sec 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Objects compressed by:0% 06/03/2002 23:36:25 Elapsed processing time: 03:14:38 06/03/2002 23:36:25 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END
data tansfer time ???
Can someone expound on what exactly DATA TRANSFER TIME specifies. I've read the definition in the manual and it's still not clear to me. In the below example, exactly what took 47.07 seconds? thx. 05/30/2002 21:45:36 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects inspected: 12,987 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects backed up: 29 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects updated: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects rebound: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects deleted: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects expired: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects failed: 1 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of bytes transferred: 1.70 GB 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Data transfer time: 47.07 sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Network data transfer rate:38,081.71 KB/sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Aggregate data transfer rate:283.08 KB/sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Objects compressed by: 37% 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Elapsed processing time: 01:45:32 05/30/2002 21:45:36 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END
Microsoft cluster servers and TSM?
Maybe someone can help me out here. Here are the stats from two cluster groups going to the same S/390 server. H: drive cluster belongs to Server3. I: drive cluster belongs to Server4. There is no other activity (client or admin) on the TSM server while these backups are in progress. These two servers are the local servers of the MS cluster and are identical with respect to hardware/disk/network (according to the OS folks). There is nothing in the event logs that indicates anything would be slowing down the backup of Sever3 H drive. Could it be a MS clustering thing. Has anyone ever seen anything like this? I know it's a bit to look at, but any help would be greatly appreciated. Look at the thruputs for each... they speak for themselves. thx Server3 H DRIVE 05/30/2002 21:45:36 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects inspected: 12,987 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects backed up: 29 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects updated: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects rebound: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects deleted: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects expired: 0 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of objects failed: 1 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Total number of bytes transferred: 1.70 GB 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Data transfer time: 47.07 sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Network data transfer rate:38,081.71 KB/sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Aggregate data transfer rate:283.08 KB/sec 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Objects compressed by: 37% 05/30/2002 21:45:36 Elapsed processing time: 01:45:32 05/30/2002 21:45:36 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END Server4 I DRIVE 05/30/2002 20:03:55 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects inspected: 12,680 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects backed up: 10 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects updated: 0 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects rebound: 0 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects deleted: 0 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects expired: 0 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of objects failed: 0 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Total number of bytes transferred: 408.34 MB 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Data transfer time: 23.58 sec 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Network data transfer rate:17,732.21 KB/sec 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Aggregate data transfer rate: 1,553.26 KB/sec 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Objects compressed by: 32% 05/30/2002 20:03:55 Elapsed processing time: 00:04:29 05/30/2002 20:03:55 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END
co question
User wants his data for 30 days, no more, no less. Don't want to Archive due to capacity issues... tape, disk, network... Will this due? VDE 30 VDD 30 REV 30 ROV 30
Reset Bufpool
Is there any good reason to be resetting your bufferpool statistics every half hour?
Re: co question
Yes, but in theory, you could have files that are 30 years old. Or for that matter, 300, or 3000 or nn years old. e.g. if the user creates a file on the first of the month, and updates on the first of every month, on month 31, you'll have copies that are 30 months old. User doesn't want that. -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: co question I would do: VDE nolimit VDD nolimit REV 30 ROV 30 That way you guarantee anything he backs up, be it via scheduled backup or adhoc backup, will always be retained for 30 days.. Regards, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: co question User wants his data for 30 days, no more, no less. Don't want to Archive due to capacity issues... tape, disk, network... Will this due? VDE 30 VDD 30 REV 30 ROV 30
Microsoft cluster server / TSM
Need a little help. I'm about to set up a TSM for Microsoft cluster server. It will be an active/active configuration. I plan on doing it as follows: Machinge A Physical disk H is a cluster group Machine B Physical disk I is a cluster group Physical disk Q (quorum) is a cluster group Machine A (normally owns disk H) install local scheduler... always running install scheduler for cluster group H (pointing to a dsm.opt file on the H drive)... always running install scheduler for cluster group Q (pointing to a dsm.opt file on the Q drive)... always running install failover scheduler pointing to the dsm.opt file on the I: drive which will manage cluster group I: in the event of failure (this will be a Generic Service Resource for Failover this scheduler is not on auto start=yes) Machine B (normally owns disk I:) install local scheduler... always running install scheduler for cluster group I (pointing to a dsm.opt file on the I drive)... always running install scheduler for cluster group Q (pointing to a dsm.opt file on the Q drive)... always running install failover scheduler pointing to the dsm.opt file on the H: drive which will manage cluster group H:in the event of Machine A failure. (this will be a Generic Service Resource for Failover this scheduler is not on auto start=yes) Here are my two questions: Should the scheduler for Q be running on both machine A and machine B? For machine A...when I set up Depencies in cluster manager for the Generic Service Resource for Failover and it states to add all physical disk resources, do I add both H and I? I can't seem to get a straight answer on this one. Regards, Joe
Re: Management Class problem
Can someone clarify Edgardo's response. Particularly, when you set up NTWCLASS with a higher retention number of versions. Higher than what? Is this by design? I also have ONLY directory structures going to mgmtclasses that I would not suspect. thx. -joe- -Original Message- From: Edgardo Moso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Management Class problem That happens when you set up NTWCLASS with higher retention number of days or versions. The directory backup goes to the mgt classs with the highest retention. Ours, we specified the directory backup by using DIRMC mgt classs. From: David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/26/2002 11:59 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Management Class problem I have TSM server 4.2.1.10 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09. I have AIX clients TSM 4.2.1.23 and NT clients 4.2.1.20. This is a new setup, has been running a few months. I just noticed that some of the data from these clients is being bound to mgt class NTWCLASS and not to the default Class. I double checked the ACTIVE management class and backup copy groups. The DEFAULTCLASS is the default and NTWCLASS is not. (I have setup NTWCLASS, but not using it yet - or I thought not!!). I do not have ANY CLIENTOPSETS defined. I do not have these copygroups using each other as NEXT. I checked the dsm.opt and dsm.sys and backup.excl files and I am not using this class. Using default or other special classes. Notice I said some of the data is going to wrong class, some of it is going to correct class. It is not clear on the data as to the pattern of what's going to wrong place. This data should all be bound to default. Whats's the deal? David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 04/26/02 12:13:55 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Management Class problem
... and check up what? -Original Message- From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Management Class problem Go to GUI mode and check up. -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Management Class problem Can someone clarify Edgardo's response. Particularly, when you set up NTWCLASS with a higher retention number of versions. Higher than what? Is this by design? I also have ONLY directory structures going to mgmtclasses that I would not suspect. thx. -joe- -Original Message- From: Edgardo Moso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Management Class problem That happens when you set up NTWCLASS with higher retention number of days or versions. The directory backup goes to the mgt classs with the highest retention. Ours, we specified the directory backup by using DIRMC mgt classs. From: David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/26/2002 11:59 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Management Class problem I have TSM server 4.2.1.10 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09. I have AIX clients TSM 4.2.1.23 and NT clients 4.2.1.20. This is a new setup, has been running a few months. I just noticed that some of the data from these clients is being bound to mgt class NTWCLASS and not to the default Class. I double checked the ACTIVE management class and backup copy groups. The DEFAULTCLASS is the default and NTWCLASS is not. (I have setup NTWCLASS, but not using it yet - or I thought not!!). I do not have ANY CLIENTOPSETS defined. I do not have these copygroups using each other as NEXT. I checked the dsm.opt and dsm.sys and backup.excl files and I am not using this class. Using default or other special classes. Notice I said some of the data is going to wrong class, some of it is going to correct class. It is not clear on the data as to the pattern of what's going to wrong place. This data should all be bound to default. Whats's the deal? David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 04/26/02 12:13:55 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
TDP Copy Groups
I'm in the process of setting up TDP for Oracle and SQL. Can someone tell me if the co group definitions work the same for all of the TDP products. For example. I've set up TDP for Exchange as follows... VDE no limit VDD no limit REV 60 ROV 60 And I expect this to keep my exchange data available for 60 days. On day 61, my first backup should expire (I hope). Does it work the same for TDP for Oracle and SQL? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe
port numbers
Environment: Server: OS/390 TSMv4.1.3.0 Client. NT/AIX/Solaris We have our Server set up to use the default port 1500. In the past, we've also made sure that the firewall folks open/define port 1501. Is it necessary to have port 1501 open? I've been told that the server listens on port 1501. If so, what is it listening for? Not a lot of info in the guides or reference on this (unless I missed it). Any help would be appreciated. thx. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logging in as a different client???
Environment: TSM Server @ V4.2 S390 Client: AIX @ 3106 and 4.2 Situation: have client A and Client B. Want to log in to TSM server from client A, but as Client B. I know the syntax on NT, could anyone help me on the AIX platform? Thx. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my timesheet
joseph_wholey_040402.xls Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] joseph_wholey_040402.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet
my timesheet... please don't reply
Please don't reply to the my timesheet message thx. sorry for inadvertantly sending Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my timesheet
An automated process gone awry... -Original Message- From: Adolph Kahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my timesheet Joe, why do you keep sending your timesheet to the ADSM list? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: my timesheet joseph_wholey_040402.xls Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
domain ?
Is there any reason why I wouldn't create one huge domain and have production, development and QA servers backing up to it? What are the pros and cons of 1 domain vs. many? Thanks in advance. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TSM database maximum recommended size
Can anyone comment on the DB size on an S390 TSM deployment? -Original Message- From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM database maximum recommended size 80 GB is in the range of what I think of as barely manageable on your average midrange Unix computer (IBM H80, Sun E450). I know folks run bigger DBs (somebody's got one in excess of 160GB) but you need substantial server hardware and very fast disks. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc Scott McCambly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/2002 11:08 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:TSM database maximum recommended size Hello all, Our data storage requirements have been driving our TSM database usage to new heights, and we are looking for some references to just how big is too big in order to help build a business case for deploying additional servers. Our current TSM database is 86.5GB and although backup and restore operations are running fine, database management tasks are becoming painfully long. I personally think this database size is too big. What are your thoughts? How many sites are running with databases this large or larger? On what hardware? IBM/Tivoli's maxiumum size recommendations seem to grow each year with the introduction of more powerful hardware platforms, but issues such as single threaded db backup and restore continue to pose problems to unlimited growth. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Scott. Scott McCambly AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (613)799-9269
Re: audit license
How about Audit Lic... -Original Message- From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: audit license I was going to do an audit license over Easter vacation to update the status of my licenses. I don't want to audit the storage so I was going to do the command: AUDIT LICENSE AUDITSTORAGE I was just wondering if the syntax is correct? I looked it up in the book, but it doesn't really give the format, it just states that the administrator can use the AUDITSTORAGE parameter to exclude auditing the storage. Thanks Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
backup sets
environment:s/390 v2.10 TSM server v 4.1.3 TSM client NT4.0 Scenario: notified of large scale restore in advance. Usually takes numerous hours. Would it make sense to create a backupset, archive it to tape and then retrieve it? Now, I don't incur the time associated with multiple tapemounts. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Utilizing All My drives
Can 1 process write to multiple drives... i.e. maxproc=1 mountlimit=drives? -Original Message- From: Christoph Pilgram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: Utilizing All My drives Hi Bassam, you can define as many processes as you like, but the limitation is the number of free drives. If you define more procs then you have drives, the migration processes wait until there is a drive available (this also happens if some of your drives are used by other processes). For using more than 2 drives you have to set the parameter mount limit in your device-definition to a apropriate value (normally you set this value to 'drives'). You normally set the value maxprocs to a value less then the number of drives, so that other operations can work on tapes too. Best regards Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Al'shaebani, Bassam [SMTP:Bassam.Al'[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Freitag, 22. März 2002 14:50 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Utilizing All My drives Hello TSM'rs, I have a question. Here's my senario, We backup to disk. Then Copy/Migrate to tape once the backups complete. I have 6 3590B drives. When my copy/migration from disk to tape is running, I only see about two tapes being mounted, thus I'm only using two out of my 6 drives. I have increaded the number MAXPROC to 2, and noticed a considerable change in copy and migration time. My question is 1) What is the max number of proc I can assign with 6 drives? 2) Is there something esle I should also be doing to utilize more drives? your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, -bassam nyc
max processes / mountlimit
If maxprocesses is set to one, and mount limit set to a value greater than one, will it utilize more than one drive? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual volumes?
I don't think that's the case. When I do a Q occ nodename, it displays the data as type ARCH, even though it's a backup coming from the source server. This, I expect. As all of the doc states the target server wiews the data, whether it's an archive or backup as an archive -Original Message- From: Richard Cowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: virtual volumes? I believe you need the copygroup defined as type=archive, not the default type=backup... (maybe not the only thing missing..) -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: virtual volumes? I could really use some help on this one... TSMv4.1.3 server on S/390 TSMv4.1.5 server on AIX-RS/6000 I set up server to server communications. All works well. I set up virtual volumes from the TSM RS/6000 to the TSM S/390 server. All looked well until I noticed that the utilization on the tape pool I thought I was writing to never changed. Upon further investigation, I noticed I was writing to a disk pool. Can't figure out how it's happening. e.g. I direct data (backup db type=full dev=vvol) to the device class vvol, which of course is devtype server, it's going to a storage pool that writes to disk. Unfortunately, this is not how I set this up. I suspect it has something to do with my copygroup or mgmtclass... here's the output of 4 queries... I know it's quite a bit to look at, but I'd appreciate if someone could shed some light on this one. I'm a little confused. tsm: ADSM-ML-WSTPq co virtual-vols virtual-policy f=d Policy Domain Name: VIRTUAL-VOLS Policy Set Name: VIRTUAL-POLICY Mgmt Class Name: VV-DEFAULT Copy Group Name: STANDARD Copy Group Type: Backup = Versions Data Exists: 2 Versions Data Deleted: 1 Retain Extra Versions: 30 Retain Only Version: 60 Copy Mode: Modified Copy Serialization: Shared Static Copy Frequency: 0 Copy Destination: VLDB-POOL Last Update by (administrator): TGADSJW Last Update Date/Time: 11/14/2001 11:22:08 Managing profile:
virtual volumes?
I could really use some help on this one... TSMv4.1.3 server on S/390 TSMv4.1.5 server on AIX-RS/6000 I set up server to server communications. All works well. I set up virtual volumes from the TSM RS/6000 to the TSM S/390 server. All looked well until I noticed that the utilization on the tape pool I thought I was writing to never changed. Upon further investigation, I noticed I was writing to a disk pool. Can't figure out how it's happening. e.g. I direct data (backup db type=full dev=vvol) to the device class vvol, which of course is devtype server, it's going to a storage pool that writes to disk. Unfortunately, this is not how I set this up. I suspect it has something to do with my copygroup or mgmtclass... here's the output of 4 queries... I know it's quite a bit to look at, but I'd appreciate if someone could shed some light on this one. I'm a little confused. tsm: ADSM-ML-WSTPq mgmtclass virtual-vols virtual-policy vv-default f=d Policy Domain Name: VIRTUAL-VOLS Policy Set Name: VIRTUAL-POLICY Mgmt Class Name: VV-DEFAULT Default Mgmt Class ?: Yes Description: vldb data Space Management Technique: None Auto-Migrate on Non-Use: 0 Migration Requires Backup?: Yes Migration Destination: SPACEMGPOOL Last Update by (administrator): TGADSJW Last Update Date/Time: 03/13/2002 15:20:11 Managing profile: ** ** tsm: ADSM-ML-WSTPq co virtual-vols virtual-policy f=d Policy Domain Name: VIRTUAL-VOLS Policy Set Name: VIRTUAL-POLICY Mgmt Class Name: VV-DEFAULT Copy Group Name: STANDARD Copy Group Type: Backup Versions Data Exists: 2 Versions Data Deleted: 1 Retain Extra Versions: 30 Retain Only Version: 60 Copy Mode: Modified Copy Serialization: Shared Static Copy Frequency: 0 Copy Destination: VLDB-POOL Last Update by (administrator): TGADSJW Last Update Date/Time: 11/14/2001 11:22:08 Managing profile: ** tsm: ADSM-ML-WSTPq stg vldb-pool f=d Storage Pool Name: VLDB-POOL Storage Pool Type: Primary Device Class Name: WATL2BFS Estimated Capacity (MB): 0.0 Pct Util: 0.0 Pct Migr: 0.0 Pct Logical: 100.0 High Mig Pct: 90 Low Mig Pct: 70 Migration Delay: 0 Migration Continue: Yes Migration Processes: Next Storage Pool: Reclaim Storage Pool: Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit Access: Read/Write Description: VLDB data stored at West Street Overflow Location: Cache Migrated Files?: Collocate?: No Reclamation Threshold: 60 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 9,999 Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 0 Day(s) Migration in Progress?: No Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00 Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0 Reclamation in Progress?: No Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed: Last Update by (administrator): TGADSJW Last Update Date/Time: 03/08/2002 10:38:48 ** ** tsm: ADSM-ML-WSTPq devclass watl2bfs f=d Device Class Name: WATL2BFS Device Access Strategy: Sequential Storage Pool Count: 3 Last Update by (administrator): TGADSBJ Last Update Date/Time: 01/29/2001 10:48:05 Device Type: 3590 Maximum Capacity (MB): Estimated Capacity (MB): 61,440.0 Dataset Name Prefix: ADSM Mount Limit: 6 Mount Retention (min): 5 Label Type: IBMSL Expiration Date: 2155365 Mount Wait (min): 60 Unit Name: WATL2 Volser: Compression: No Protection: No Retention: Server Name: Retry Period: Retry Interval:
Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session onSQL Co mmands
Me too... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ann Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session onSQL Co mmands I would like to have acopy also... Ann Mason StFX University www.stfx.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jane Bamberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session onSQL Co mmands I also would like a copy! Thanks!! Jane Bamberger IS Department Bassett Healthcare 607-547-4784 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Al Narzisi Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session onSQL Co mmands I would also like a copy... - Original Message - From: Tom Melton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session onSQL Co mmands I would like a copy too... Tom Melton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/02 08:20AM I'd like to get a copy also Justin Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 03/07/2002 07:29:07 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session on SQL Co mmands Yes please. =) -JD. If you want a copy of the presentation, please let me know. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
Mirroring DB and Log
In a RAID5 environment, is there really any reason to Mirror the database and logs? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mirroring DB and Log
That, Wanda, is a great explanation. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mirroring DB and Log I think, as usual, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ENVIRONMENT. The RAID5 prevents outage due to a disk failure. But there is some exposure to other failures. Your RAID5 controller can fail. And there is always that traditional bugaboo of HUMAN failure - I always worry about some enthusiastic trainee or accident-prone vendor tech accidentally reconfiguring the RAID set while I'm not arround. There is also some, very LOW likelihood of a LOGICAL (software) error writing to the DB or log. Tivoli has stated in the past, that there are cases where they can detect a bad write to the log and STOP before replicating the bad write to the mirror copy (I've never seen this occur myself, so I don't know how realistic this is), which is why they recommend using TSM mirroring instead of OS mirroring. So, I think you have to evaluate your situation; what is your exposure; what is your tolerance to an outage, and what is your tolerance for data loss? Do you want to have to explain ANY downtime / data loss to your management? In systems where the transaction load will allow it, I put one copy of the DB on RAID5, put the log in ROLLFORWARD mode, then mirror just the LOG to an internal disk (to avoid the WRITE penalty), or to a RAID5 device on a different adapter. That way, EVEN IF you lose the RAID5 set, you still have the log, which means you can always restore the DB from a DB backup tape, and roll forward to current; the only thing you lose is some time. So you achieve almost bullet-proof coverage with not much cost in space. If your transaction load is too high to stand the overhead of ROLLFORWARD mode, and you use NORMAL mode, then if you have a failure you lose your transactions back to the last DB backup. That's OK for a lot of sites. If all you are backing up is some servers under your control, and all you lose is your previous night's backups, then fine. But, if you have a lot of far-flung clients not under your control, or if you do a lot of archiving it gets trickier, 'cause you have to track down what archives were lost and do them again. And if you are in an HSM environment BOW HOWDY, then you can't afford ANY outage, even TIME. So, you have to think about 1) What is your exposure - do YOU understand exactly what you would lose if you had an outage? 3) What are you willing to pay to cover your exposure? 4) Does your management understand your exposure? and set yourself up accordingly. Just my 2 cents. (and by the way, does our 2 cents worth stay constant, or do we have to pro-rate it for inflation from year to year?) Wanda Prather -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mirroring DB and Log In a RAID5 environment, is there really any reason to Mirror the database and logs? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SQL command
Looking for an SQL command that will show me nodes by management class. Can anyone help? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Next STG Pool
Any thoughts on making NEXT STG POOL a virtual volume. i.e. going to device type server over the network? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my timesheet
joseph_wholey_030102.xls Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] joseph_wholey_030102.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet
Re: my timesheet
Sorry about that... wrong distribution list. -Original Message- From: Marc Lowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my timesheet you work too hard.
Re: TDP monitoring
Server upgrade. -Original Message- From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring 10 or 20 Exchange IS restores in progress at the same time not being unusual??? I would worry about why you have to do that! The e-mail support group shold be able to do the restores themselves with the TDP GUI - and it shows the progess. -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring Tim, Del, Thanks... how about monitoring a restore in progress? Or monitoring many in progress (like 10 or 20 which would not be that unusual). For example, your e-mail support group paging and asking when is it going to finish? Is it simply Q the size of the full and the incrs and do the math? That's kind of cumbersome for multiple restores. Regards, Joe
Re: TDP monitoring
When running the Exchange full backup via a schedule, a C:\WINNT4\system32\cmd.exe window pops up on the client that is getting the Exchange full backup. Any way to stop that, or get it to run in the background? Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring 10 or 20 Exchange IS restores in progress at the same time not being unusual??? I would worry about why you have to do that! The e-mail support group shold be able to do the restores themselves with the TDP GUI - and it shows the progess. -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring Tim, Del, Thanks... how about monitoring a restore in progress? Or monitoring many in progress (like 10 or 20 which would not be that unusual). For example, your e-mail support group paging and asking when is it going to finish? Is it simply Q the size of the full and the incrs and do the math? That's kind of cumbersome for multiple restores. Regards, Joe
TDP monitoring
I'm currently testing TDP for Exchange for possible deployment in a very large enterprise environment. Is anyone aware of tools/scripts that I can use to monitor the backups/restores. I'm aware that I can look at the past history of backups/restores and determine approximately how long it will take, however, this can be quite time consuming. Also, does anyone know how most people are monitoring the success/failure of their respective backups. I was going to scrape data out of the excfull.log or excincr.log. This seems kind of primitive. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logmode/bufpoolsize/mpthreading
Environment: Server: 4.1.3.0 Platform: S390 1. Logmode: We're going to change the Logmode from Normal to Roll Forward. What determines the amount of disk I'll require? 2. Bufpoolsize: We're going to increase from 24576K to ?. What's the determining factor? 3. Mpthreading: We're going to turn it on. Are there any considerations I should concern myself with? None of this info is in the manual that I'm aware of. I get a log of try this form Tivoli support. Unfortunately, I don't work in an environment where I can try this without first knowing what the repercussions are. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logmode/bufpoolsize/mpthreading
Environment: Server: 4.1.3.0 Platform: S390 1. Logmode: We're going to change the Logmode from Normal to Roll Forward. What determines the amount of disk I'll require? 2. Bufpoolsize: We're going to increase from 24576K to ?. What's the determining factor? 3. Mpthreading: We're going to turn it on. Are there any considerations I should concern myself with? None of this info is in the manual that I'm aware of. I get a log of try this form Tivoli support. Unfortunately, I don't work in an environment where I can try this without first knowing what the repercussions are. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TDP monitoring
Tim, Del, Thanks... how about monitoring a restore in progress? Or monitoring many in progress (like 10 or 20 which would not be that unusual). For example, your e-mail support group paging and asking when is it going to finish? Is it simply Q the size of the full and the incrs and do the math? That's kind of cumbersome for multiple restores. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring Not all error messages for TDP For Exchange (1.1.1.01 anyways) are logged on the server. We just ran into this on one of our test servers, messages in client log: ACN3002E -- The Directory service is not running. A backup was attempted but the necessary Exchange Services were not running. 01/29/2002 20:59:31,ACN3025E -- Backup error encountered. On the server, all you see is 01/28/2002 21:00:02 ANR2561I Schedule prompter contacting EX-CSDSVTEMB (session 2400) to start a scheduled operation. 01/28/2002 21:00:03 ANR0406I Session 2403 started for node EX-CSDSVTEMB (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip 192.168.176.45(4083)). 01/28/2002 21:00:16 ANR0403I Session 2403 ended for node EX-CSDSVTEMB (WinNT). Now this may be a bad example because if it is a production system you would know pretty quick that the directory service was not running on Exchange! We monitor all backups via q event to look for failed schedules (this does not catch all Exchange Failures) We do a daily check for filespaces that have not been backed up (this will catch Exchange failures). We also run a report using the accounting file as input which will show you how much data is backed up by each node and the throughput. Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP monitoring I'm currently testing TDP for Exchange for possible deployment in a very large enterprise environment. Is anyone aware of tools/scripts that I can use to monitor the backups/restores. I'm aware that I can look at the past history of backups/restores and determine approximately how long it will take, however, this can be quite time consuming. Also, does anyone know how most people are monitoring the success/failure of their respective backups. I was going to scrape data out of the excfull.log or excincr.log. This seems kind of primitive. Joe, Just one thought... Also, keep in mind that all backup (and restore) events for TDP for Exchange are logged in the TSM server activity log... including their success or failure. That way you can go to one central location to find out the status of the backups, i.e. you would not have to go to each Exchange server to find out the status. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celebrate we will. Life is short but sweet for certain... -- Dave
sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication
Any help would be greatly appreciated... ENVIRONMENT client: 4.2.1.2 NT4 sp5 server: 4.1.3 S390 TDP for Exchange version 2.2 I'm trying to install TDP for Exchange Scheduler. By all accounts, it installs successfully. However, when I start the scheduler, I get the following errror in the dsierror.log. sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. Things I've tried: - uninstalled TSM client - uninstalled TDP for Exchange - removed all reg entries for the above apps - re-installed both apps - reset the password for the exchange node on both the client and server - removed the service and cleared the password entry in the reg - re-installed the scheduler. reset pws on client and server again ... on and on and on... Anyone see this before? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication
Tim, Thanks... actually, the only other problem is that my sched stays in a pending state until I stop and start the scheduler. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication The readme for the win32 client states: When starting/installing the TSM Scheduler Service, you will get an error message in the dsierror.log that states: sessOpen: error 137 from signon authentication This message can be ignored. Are you experiencing any problems besides this message? Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication Any help would be greatly appreciated... ENVIRONMENT client: 4.2.1.2 NT4 sp5 server: 4.1.3 S390 TDP for Exchange version 2.2 I'm trying to install TDP for Exchange Scheduler. By all accounts, it installs successfully. However, when I start the scheduler, I get the following errror in the dsierror.log. sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. Things I've tried: - uninstalled TSM client - uninstalled TDP for Exchange - removed all reg entries for the above apps - re-installed both apps - reset the password for the exchange node on both the client and server - removed the service and cleared the password entry in the reg - re-installed the scheduler. reset pws on client and server again ... on and on and on... Anyone see this before? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication
Del, Thanks, I did, and as Tim stated, I can ignore the error message if it's the only one I recieve. (and it is). However, I still have to stop and start the TDP for Exchange Scheduler, otherwise my scheduled job hangs in a pending state. Any ideas? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication ENVIRONMENT client: 4.2.1.2 NT4 sp5 server: 4.1.3 S390 TDP for Exchange version 2.2 I'm trying to install TDP for Exchange Scheduler. By all accounts, it installs successfully. However, when I start the scheduler, I get the following errror in the dsierror.log. sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. Joe, This is a delicate thing. I recommend following the EXACT steps as documented in the TDP for Exchange User's Guide Appendix C. When I say exact, I mean don't leave out a step and make sure you do them in the correct order. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celebrate we will. Life is short but sweet for certain... -- Dave
How can I implement Backup Sets?
TSM v413.0 running on os/390 primarily backing up NT4.0 and ADSMv3.1.06 Situation: We backup branch offices spread thru out the US. Each branch office has a primary server and an exact duplicate server running the os and the apps (no user data). Frequently, we will be notified ahead of time (days) that the primary server needs to be rebuilt. This requires us to restore the user data upon completion. At times it can be as much as 13G going across fractional T1 or T3. Due to the network, this can be a really time consuming restore. Question: Is there a way I can utilize the secondary server as a medium to create Backup Sets on? There are no local devices (zip, jazz etc...) at these branch offices. Couldn't use anyhow because there is no personnel at these branch offices to physically load the media. Any suggestions as to how I can use the secondary server to put backupsets on and greatly reduce my restore time to the primary server? Regards, Joe
Re: Renaming Node Name
Yes, you're going to take a base backup (one time full) after you change the name... i.e. it's going to take longer than your perpetual incremental. -Original Message- From: Selva, Perpetua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Renaming Node Name I have been backing up with this name tonis137 and they want to rename this to tonis137old and recreate another server with tonis137 any impacts? i should watch out for?
Re: PC Magazine Enterprise Backup Article - NO MENTION OF TSM!! W here's the Air Support?
When someone asks A penny for your thoughts? and you give your 2 cents, where does that extra penny go? -Original Message- From: Lindsey Thomson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PC Magazine Enterprise Backup Article - NO MENTION OF TSM!! Where's the Air Support? Hi *, I am a newbie to this forum BUT have been using TSM Client side/Sysback for all backup/recovery issues. Sysback works fine for the bare metal recovery and ADSM/TSM works fine for the rest. Have been using this methodology for the past 5+ years and have had very good results. When I posed the question to IBM: OK, TSM works for data recovery, what about bare metal recovery issues? The response was Sysback. I don't see why IBM would leave TSM out of an advertisement when given the opportunity though... Just my $0.02. I am just recently moving into the server side of TSM V42 and am having a bit of a learning curve but it looks hopeful... :^) I look forward to helpful hints from ya'll, thx. lt 512 823 6522 (TL: 793)
Re: Backing up MS-SQL without the TDP
If you have the space on the SQL server, use MS' built in feature to back it up locally, then back it with TSM and delete it. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backing up MS-SQL without the TDP Has anyone got a working procedure they use to backup a server with MS-SQL on it, without using the TDP ? We can't afford to by any more licenses of the TDP. I realize there is an SC.EXE program that can be used to shut-down and start the SQL process. Any help would be appreciated. Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - voice: 804-828-4807
Re: Need help with TSM process slowdowns
fyi... never set anything to autonegotiate... -Original Message- From: Rooij, FC de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help with TSM process slowdowns We did see something similar. The network settings were set on autorecogniate. After that there was a mix off full and half-duplex, which caused a lot of collisions. Fred de Rooij -Original Message- From: Hunley, Ike [EMAIL PROTECTED]@CORUS Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help with TSM process slowdowns Tivoliv has me changing BUFPOOLSIZE to 1/2 the region size. -Original Message- From: George Lesho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help with TSM process slowdowns Ike, I don't know much about your environment but if there were no changes to TSM configuration, I would look at the client corresponding to the slow session. If your client is AIX, run entstat (actually entstat -d ent0) to check your network interface. If there are large error totals, you may have hardware problems. George Lesho AFC Enterprises -Original Message- From: Hunley, Ike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need help with TSM process slowdowns HI, I need HELLLP!! TSM backup processes that last week took 51 minutes, now take 8 - 28 hours. We know of no changes to the TSM 4.2.1.9 Server running on OS/390 V2R9. It looks like the servers are ready to send data and TSM is ready to receive. The routers are indicate very low activity. We have a sniffer on now. If anyone out there has recovered from a similar experience please help? Thanks Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
Re: low bandwitdth and big files
Paul, I agree... But what possible effect does shutting Devclass compression on the TSM server have? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Compression is set at the OS level in the mainframe. So, whatever your MVS folks say is what it is. -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Matt, Don't be so sure... my MVS folks are telling me that there is no way TSM is over riding their micro-code hardware level compression. (but I will double check with them and again as well as with Tivoli). With regard to compressing data twice, I disagree. There's something very wrong with it. That's why it is strongly recommended not to do it. (not just with TSM, but with all data) Some data that goes thru multiple compression routines can blow up to 2x the size the file started out as. And finally, the reason we turn compression on at the client, is to compress it before it rides our very slow network. Otherwise, I wouldn't. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville Joe, I do not believe there is such a thing as 'server' level compression. My understanding is that the device class compression settings are reflecting the hardware level compression settings, they can override what the microcode may have set the 'default' to. We have no problems at all with clients that compress with the tsm client, and then compress again on the tape drive, you loose just a little bit of space, and yes, the occupancy information does not know that the data has already been compresssed. There is really nothing wrong with compressing data more than once, the files get a bit bigger, but it could be worth the time and bandwith saved. Also don't forget that lots of data is stored already compressed in zipped files or compressed images like jpeg and mpeg. I would not touch with the compression settings on the device class, keep them on at the highest level, just turn on or off the TSM client compression as needed. Check and see if that helps your low bandwith backups. Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 01:39:10 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Matt, Are you running two, maybe 3 compression routines. i.e. once at the client, once at the server level (you'll see if you q devclass f=d on a sequential storage device) and once at the hardware level (micro code). If so, have you kept check on the amount of data in your stgpool. I say this because a q occ on a file space is not going to give you an accurrate indication of the amount of data that node/filespace has dumped into your stgpool. Although the IBMers and the manuals say don't run multiple compression routines, they've yet to advise on what to do if you have to run client side compression due to a slow network. I can shut off server side/devclass compression, but what about hardware compression. Can you shut off compression on a 3590 tape device. Isn't that a micro code issue. i.e. you can't shut it off? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville You might want to turn on TSM client side compression... In my experience notes databases can get at least 50% compressed. Your backups will most likely go down to 2 hours, or even more. TSM: update node node_name compress=yes Give it a try. For low bandwith lines I always prefer to let TSM compress the data first Of course, we no longer back up notes as normal files but use the TDP for Domino agent. (but still use TSM client compression). Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 10:48:46 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files I have one full backup. What could be the solution? The files change with minor changes every day but 1.8GB file is backuped up from scratch every day. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.01.2002 16:39 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc
Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files
Peter, If I'm running compression on all of my clients, why would I attempt to turn it on at the devclass level. The only thing I can see it doing is prevent me from streaming because it's first going to try and compress anything I send to. Hence, an overall performance hit. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Peter Sattler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Hi Joe, I strongly agree with Matt. I've done then same thing, that is client side compression and hardware compression on tape. With TSM, with Networker - I've never seen problems. On the server side all you lose is a bit of tape capacity. The compression is hardware (sic!) not software. The well known advice is for software compression - and there it is necessary to avoid double compression because it takes away resources. So in your case try client side compression - it might well be that you gain more than a doubled data rate. Cheers Peter Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU am 30.01.2002 22:07:19 Bitte antworten an ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] An:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Thema: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Matt, Don't be so sure... my MVS folks are telling me that there is no way TSM is over riding their micro-code hardware level compression. (but I will double check with them and again as well as with Tivoli). With regard to compressing data twice, I disagree. There's something very wrong with it. That's why it is strongly recommended not to do it. (not just with TSM, but with all data) Some data that goes thru multiple compression routines can blow up to 2x the size the file started out as. And finally, the reason we turn compression on at the client, is to compress it before it rides our very slow network. Otherwise, I wouldn't. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville Joe, I do not believe there is such a thing as 'server' level compression. My understanding is that the device class compression settings are reflecting the hardware level compression settings, they can override what the microcode may have set the 'default' to. We have no problems at all with clients that compress with the tsm client, and then compress again on the tape drive, you loose just a little bit of space, and yes, the occupancy information does not know that the data has already been compresssed. There is really nothing wrong with compressing data more than once, the files get a bit bigger, but it could be worth the time and bandwith saved. Also don't forget that lots of data is stored already compressed in zipped files or compressed images like jpeg and mpeg. I would not touch with the compression settings on the device class, keep them on at the highest level, just turn on or off the TSM client compression as needed. Check and see if that helps your low bandwith backups. Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 01:39:10 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Matt, Are you running two, maybe 3 compression routines. i.e. once at the client, once at the server level (you'll see if you q devclass f=d on a sequential storage device) and once at the hardware level (micro code). If so, have you kept check on the amount of data in your stgpool. I say this because a q occ on a file space is not going to give you an accurrate indication of the amount of data that node/filespace has dumped into your stgpool. Although the IBMers and the manuals say don't run multiple compression routines, they've yet to advise on what to do if you have to run client side compression due to a slow network. I can shut off server side/devclass compression, but what about hardware compression. Can you shut off compression on a 3590 tape device. Isn't that a micro code issue. i.e. you can't shut it off? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville You might want to turn on TSM client side compression... In my experience notes databases can get at least 50% compressed. Your backups will most likely go down to 2 hours, or even more. TSM: update node node_name compress=yes Give it a try. For low bandwith lines I always prefer to let TSM compress the data first Of course, we no longer back up notes as normal files but use the TDP for Domino agent
Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files
Nick, I have client compression turned on also due to slow network (have no choice). But no one has been able to answer the following questions definitively: 1. Am I potentially doubling the size of certain files in the stg pool by running multiple compression algorithms.? 2. By turning off DEVCLASS compression, is that effectively disabling hardware compression performed by my tape device (IBM 3590 TAPE Device / Cartridge) 3. If client compression and hardware compression are turned on, and hardware compression isn't really buying me anything... won't the attempt at hardware compression prevent streaming? I think it will. I'm looking for YES/NO answers with a valid explanation. Anyone? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Nicholas Cassimatis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files A long while back, I had 36 boxes of the following config: Pentium 100's, 128MB RAM, 16Mbit Token Ring, running OS/2 2.11 with Lan Server 4, Notes 4.1, backing up mail files as flat files. Turned client side compression on, backup window went from 4 hours to 1.25 hours. I cut the data sent over the wire down by 66%, and got a corresponding reduction in the backup time. My machines were effectively offline for the backup window, due to the network being saturated, so the fact they were also CPU bound really didn't matter. It all depends on the config. The worst you could do is to test a little, see what happens. Oh, my library was a 3494 with 2xB11 drives in it. I kept utilizing the same number of tapes, but the capacity at full went from around 28GB to 11GB, as would be expected. Nick Cassimatis Technical Team Lead e-Business Backup/Recovery Services 919-363-8894 T/L 223-8965 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.
Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files
HOO---RAAY... finally. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Slag, Jerry B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files 1. Yes. Trying to compress an already compressed file can cause the file to grow larger. 2. No. We run a 3494 Magstar - hardware compression is ALWAYS on, you can't override it. It is controlled within the hardware and our ZOS system. 3. Prevent - No. Degrade or hinder - Yes, it can. -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Nick, I have client compression turned on also due to slow network (have no choice). But no one has been able to answer the following questions definitively: 1. Am I potentially doubling the size of certain files in the stg pool by running multiple compression algorithms.? 2. By turning off DEVCLASS compression, is that effectively disabling hardware compression performed by my tape device (IBM 3590 TAPE Device / Cartridge) 3. If client compression and hardware compression are turned on, and hardware compression isn't really buying me anything... won't the attempt at hardware compression prevent streaming? I think it will. I'm looking for YES/NO answers with a valid explanation. Anyone? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Nicholas Cassimatis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: low bandwitdth and big files A long while back, I had 36 boxes of the following config: Pentium 100's, 128MB RAM, 16Mbit Token Ring, running OS/2 2.11 with Lan Server 4, Notes 4.1, backing up mail files as flat files. Turned client side compression on, backup window went from 4 hours to 1.25 hours. I cut the data sent over the wire down by 66%, and got a corresponding reduction in the backup time. My machines were effectively offline for the backup window, due to the network being saturated, so the fact they were also CPU bound really didn't matter. It all depends on the config. The worst you could do is to test a little, see what happens. Oh, my library was a 3494 with 2xB11 drives in it. I kept utilizing the same number of tapes, but the capacity at full went from around 28GB to 11GB, as would be expected. Nick Cassimatis Technical Team Lead e-Business Backup/Recovery Services 919-363-8894 T/L 223-8965 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.
Re: low bandwitdth and big files
Matt, Are you running two, maybe 3 compression routines. i.e. once at the client, once at the server level (you'll see if you q devclass f=d on a sequential storage device) and once at the hardware level (micro code). If so, have you kept check on the amount of data in your stgpool. I say this because a q occ on a file space is not going to give you an accurrate indication of the amount of data that node/filespace has dumped into your stgpool. Although the IBMers and the manuals say don't run multiple compression routines, they've yet to advise on what to do if you have to run client side compression due to a slow network. I can shut off server side/devclass compression, but what about hardware compression. Can you shut off compression on a 3590 tape device. Isn't that a micro code issue. i.e. you can't shut it off? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville You might want to turn on TSM client side compression... In my experience notes databases can get at least 50% compressed. Your backups will most likely go down to 2 hours, or even more. TSM: update node node_name compress=yes Give it a try. For low bandwith lines I always prefer to let TSM compress the data first Of course, we no longer back up notes as normal files but use the TDP for Domino agent. (but still use TSM client compression). Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 10:48:46 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files I have one full backup. What could be the solution? The files change with minor changes every day but 1.8GB file is backuped up from scratch every day. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.01.2002 16:39 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Depending on circumstances, this might be a candidate for adaptive differencing, TSMs version of a block level incremental. You will still have to at least once do a complete backup of the big files though. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RYSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: low bandwitdth and big files Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/2002 12:01 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, I am trying to backup up big files ~1GB from a low bandwidth line. Some of the clients fail the schedule very frequently. Could you recommend me some options to increase timeout (any kind of timeout). I pasted the schedlog of one of the clients below which starts at 19:00. Regards Burak 29-01-2002 10:26:47 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 29-01-2002 10:26:47 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Next operation scheduled: 29-01-2002 10:26:47 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Schedule Name: * * * * NTDAILY 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Action: * * * * * * * *Incremental 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Objects: 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Options: 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Server Window Start: * 19:00:00 on 29-01-2002 29-01-2002 10:26:47 29-01-2002 10:26:47 Waiting to be contacted by the server. 29-01-2002 19:03:59 TCP/IP accepted connection from server. 29-01-2002 19:03:59 Querying server for next scheduled event. 29-01-2002 19:03:59 Node Name: DCS_NOTESSRV1 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Session established with server TSM01.MBT: AIX-RS/6000 29-01-2002 19:04:04 * Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.9 29-01-2002 19:04:04 * Server date/time: 29-01-2002 19:00:10 *Last access: 29-01-2002 10:22:53 29-01-2002 19:04:04 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 29-01-2002 19:04:04 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Next operation scheduled: 29-01-2002 19:04:04 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Schedule Name: * * * * NTDAILY 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Action: * * * * * * * *Incremental 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Objects: 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Options: 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Server Window Start: * 19:00:00 on 29-01-2002 29-01-2002 19:04:04 29-01-2002 19:04:04 Executing scheduled command now. 29-01-2002 19:04:04 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN NTDAILY
Re: low bandwitdth and big files
Matt, Don't be so sure... my MVS folks are telling me that there is no way TSM is over riding their micro-code hardware level compression. (but I will double check with them and again as well as with Tivoli). With regard to compressing data twice, I disagree. There's something very wrong with it. That's why it is strongly recommended not to do it. (not just with TSM, but with all data) Some data that goes thru multiple compression routines can blow up to 2x the size the file started out as. And finally, the reason we turn compression on at the client, is to compress it before it rides our very slow network. Otherwise, I wouldn't. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville Joe, I do not believe there is such a thing as 'server' level compression. My understanding is that the device class compression settings are reflecting the hardware level compression settings, they can override what the microcode may have set the 'default' to. We have no problems at all with clients that compress with the tsm client, and then compress again on the tape drive, you loose just a little bit of space, and yes, the occupancy information does not know that the data has already been compresssed. There is really nothing wrong with compressing data more than once, the files get a bit bigger, but it could be worth the time and bandwith saved. Also don't forget that lots of data is stored already compressed in zipped files or compressed images like jpeg and mpeg. I would not touch with the compression settings on the device class, keep them on at the highest level, just turn on or off the TSM client compression as needed. Check and see if that helps your low bandwith backups. Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wholey, Joseph (TGA\\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 01:39:10 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Matt, Are you running two, maybe 3 compression routines. i.e. once at the client, once at the server level (you'll see if you q devclass f=d on a sequential storage device) and once at the hardware level (micro code). If so, have you kept check on the amount of data in your stgpool. I say this because a q occ on a file space is not going to give you an accurrate indication of the amount of data that node/filespace has dumped into your stgpool. Although the IBMers and the manuals say don't run multiple compression routines, they've yet to advise on what to do if you have to run client side compression due to a slow network. I can shut off server side/devclass compression, but what about hardware compression. Can you shut off compression on a 3590 tape device. Isn't that a micro code issue. i.e. you can't shut it off? Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Matthew Glanville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files From: Matthew Glanville You might want to turn on TSM client side compression... In my experience notes databases can get at least 50% compressed. Your backups will most likely go down to 2 hours, or even more. TSM: update node node_name compress=yes Give it a try. For low bandwith lines I always prefer to let TSM compress the data first Of course, we no longer back up notes as normal files but use the TDP for Domino agent. (but still use TSM client compression). Matthew Glanville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/30/2002 10:48:46 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files I have one full backup. What could be the solution? The files change with minor changes every day but 1.8GB file is backuped up from scratch every day. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.01.2002 16:39 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: low bandwitdth and big files Depending on circumstances, this might be a candidate for adaptive differencing, TSMs version of a block level incremental. You will still have to at least once do a complete backup of the big files though. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RYSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist
Re: disk pool problem tsm 4.2.1.9
Change your Hi Lo migration threshold (up the 60% on the hi) or throw more disk at your solution. I'd first change the threshold though. -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: disk pool problem tsm 4.2.1.9 Hi, I am using TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3583 Library (3 Drives on it) I have a disk pool about 3GB. All my schedules starts at 7pm but some clients' files are over 1.8GB on a low bandwitdth. These clients try to write next stg pool (to a tape pool) directly although their destination pool is my disk pool. I came to a conclusion that due to not enough space on disk pool during backup of many clients some of them are trying to write tape pool even though tape drives are very slow. Do you have any idea to prevent clients to write my tape pools directly (I use migration and at %60 the disk pool migrates to tape pool). I want all clients to write to disk pool and migrate them according to above condition whatever the size or bandwitdh of data. Thank you in advance Burak
Re: Performance drop after upgrade to TSM 4.2.1.8
How do you go about unloading and loading your db. Is this ever really necessary. Shouldn't TSM manage that sort of thing on it's own? -Original Message- From: Rupp Thomas (Illwerke) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: Performance drop after upgrade to TSM 4.2.1.8 Hi, maybe we've got the same problem (slow performance) but on a different platform. We upgraded from TSM 3.7.2.0 to 4.1.1.0 and our database cache hit rate dropped to about 95%. We then upgraded to TSM 4.1.5.0, changed some settings in DSMSERV.OPT - to no avail. Over this weekend we defragmented (UNLOADDB/LOADDB) our database and this seemed to solve our problem - I can tell you more tomorrow! We are running on an H50 with AIX 4.3.3.0. Kind regards Thomas Rupp -- Dieses eMail wurde auf Viren geprueft. Vorarlberger Illwerke AG --
Re: New install of TSM
I'd go the easy route (thinner too) and just write a script to send out new dsm.opt/dsm.sys files to your clients. And then have another script that recycles your central scheduler service. If you want to start getting silly, you can also have a script that retrieves copies of your dsm*.log files to a central repository and you can check stuff from there. -Original Message- From: RB Páll Birkir Wolfram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New install of TSM Hi, I am currently implementin a TSM 4.2 on OS/390 to backup a Windows NT / 2000, AIX and OS/2 environment but not the OS/390 environment. Can I use Microsoft Managent Console (MMC) or a Web browser to administrate the clients, so that the administrator doesn´t have to access each client seperatly when changing what to backup? Where can I get the MMC snap in for TSM and how do I implement it? Thanks in Advance Pall B. Wolfram System Administrator
Re: Antwort: backing up to tape/OS/390
Gerhard, Thanks for the info... by the way, what kind of time frame are we looking at for a MOVE DATA operation. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Gerhard Wolkerstorfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: backing up to tape/OS/390 You could try to check, on which tape your data is (Volumeusage-Table) And than, make a MOVE DATA from this tape to your diskpool (Maybe you have to increase your diskpool) and than start the restores. When all of your files are on the diskpool, your restore will complete without any Media Waits. Gerhard Wolkerstorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] am 26.01.2002 04:41:16 Bitte antworten an [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: (Blindkopie: Gerhard Wolkerstorfer/DEBIS/EDVG/AT) Thema:backing up to tape/OS/390 Environment: System/390 device type: Cartridge/3590 TSM 4.1.3 Server TSM client 3.1.06 Scenario: I get notified in advance that I'll need to restore multiple clients (gigs worth of data) on a given weekend. I manually kick off a base backup to a spare TSM server on Friday night so when the call comes in (over the weekend) to restore the servers, I restore from a relatively quiet TSM server. I'm not contending with the production backup cycle. The problem: This backed up data gets migrated to tape prior to my restore. Invariably, multiple servers' data ends up on one tape. i.e. only one server can restore at a time. The question: Is there a way to direct the backup data of a particular server to a specific tape so I can run multiple restores from multiple tapes at the same time? This is killing me... Good suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Joe
Database Specs
I'm running TSM v 4.1.3 on System\390. My database is 47G and spread across 25 physical volumes (gets a 78% cache hit / not so great). One of my performance and tuning books recommends not spreading your database over more than 12 physical volumes. Could anyone explain why? What kind of performance/utilazation hit am I going to incur by having my db spread across 25 volumes? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compression
Currently running TSM v 4.1.3 on System\390. Run compression on the client as well as harware compression on Device type Cartridge and 3590. Ideally this is not the way to go... but we need to run compression on the client due to network constraints. Is it a FACT that running a compression routine 2x will ultimately double the size of the original file? Where can I find more info on this? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Database Specs
Thanks... -Original Message- From: Malbrough, Demetrius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Database Specs If you are going to increase the BUFPoolsize parameter make sure you do it based on the amount of System Memory (MB). 'An optimal setting for the database buffer pool is one in which the cache hit percentage is greater than or equal to 98%. If you have enough memory, increase in 1MB increments. A cache hit percentage greater than 99% is an indication that the proper BUFPoolsize has been reached. While increasing BUFPoolsize, care must be taken not to cause paging in the virtual memory system. Monitor system memory usage to check for any increased paging after the BUFPoolsize change. (Use the RESET BUFP command to reset the cache hit statistics.)' Regards, Demetrius Malbrough UNIX/TSM Administrator -Original Message- From: William F. Colwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Database Specs Joe - the number of volumes isn't the problem. You need to increase the bufpoolsize in the server dsm.opt file. Here is a 'q db f=d' from my system. The bufpoolsize parameter becomes the 'buffer pool pages' value in the q db. Bill Colwell - - - tsm: NEW_ADSM_SERVER_ON_PORT_1600q db f=d Available Space (MB): 166,860 Assigned Capacity (MB): 166,860 Maximum Extension (MB): 0 Maximum Reduction (MB): 18,640 Page Size (bytes): 4,096 Total Usable Pages: 42,716,160 Used Pages: 37,947,974 Pct Util: 88.8 Max. Pct Util: 88.8 Physical Volumes: 45 Buffer Pool Pages: 65,536 Total Buffer Requests: 194,057,057 Cache Hit Pct.: 98.44 Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00 Backup in Progress?: No Type of Backup In Progress: Incrementals Since Last Full: 5 Changed Since Last Backup (MB): 1,542.07 Percentage Changed: 1.04 Last Complete Backup Date/Time: 01/24/2002 15:49:51 - - - At 12:54 PM 1/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: I'm running TSM v 4.1.3 on System\390. My database is 47G and spread across 25 physical volumes (gets a 78% cache hit / not so great). One of my performance and tuning books recommends not spreading your database over more than 12 physical volumes. Could anyone explain why? What kind of performance/utilazation hit am I going to incur by having my db spread across 25 volumes? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bill Colwell C. S. Draper Lab Cambridge Ma.
backing up to tape/OS/390
Environment: System/390 device type: Cartridge/3590 TSM 4.1.3 Server TSM client 3.1.06 Scenario: I get notified in advance that I'll need to restore multiple clients (gigs worth of data) on a given weekend. I manually kick off a base backup to a spare TSM server on Friday night so when the call comes in (over the weekend) to restore the servers, I restore from a relatively quiet TSM server. I'm not contending with the production backup cycle. The problem: This backed up data gets migrated to tape prior to my restore. Invariably, multiple servers' data ends up on one tape. i.e. only one server can restore at a time. The question: Is there a way to direct the backup data of a particular server to a specific tape so I can run multiple restores from multiple tapes at the same time? This is killing me... Good suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Joe
