Antwort: Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-29 Thread Peter Sattler

Hi folks,

going back to the basic: use ufsdump/ufsrestore to create a bootable (yes!)
image on a virgin disk ( no Volume Manager !).

example:

virgin disk is /dev/dsk/c1t5d0 and has same size as root disk. Now two ways
to Loch Lemond: high one you will create partitions of the same size as on
your root disk, low one take one partition for all except swap.


Whatever you choose, partition it and create filesystems on all partitions.
Mount new root under /new, new var under /new/var etc.

Do ufsdump/restore:

ufsdump 0f - / | ( cd /new; ufsrestore rf - )

and for var :

ufsdump 0f - /var | ( cd /new/var; ufsrestore rf - )

for /opt the same ...

Remember : ufsdump is always relative to the filesystem, so a mountpoint
such as /var is always omitted !

Don't forget to install a bootblock, in this case:

installboot  (see man page, example sparc ) /dev/rdsk/c1t5d0s0 ( if
slice 0 is / )

AND : Remove any traces of Volume Manager ( see Veritas VM / Solstice Disk
Suite for details ).

Even though you have copied a LIVE! system, it will be ok. What you will be
missing isn't necessary and you come up with a working spare disk. Do it
regularly and test it and be happy forever. The difference to a boot net is
the possibility to boot without network and to customize it to your very
needs including special data saved for restart purposes.


Yours Peter Sattler

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You could also take a look at Bare Metal Restore - from VERITAS.  It was
formerly a TKG product, but TKG was aquired by and megerd into VERITAS.
 You can still get BMR for TSM from IBM channels.


Remco Post wrote:

Hi,

Jumpstart is free, and is more like the AIX nim. ufsdump/restore are ok
tools,
but they don't make a bootable image. The angian, if your happy with 'boot
net
-s' or 'boot cdrom -s' mount the nsf fs the ufsdump is on and then
restoreing maulally, you'll probably be ok using usfdump.  If you want to
do these things automatically with one command, you'll probably need a very
customized junpstart (not entierly impossible, if you have the time), or a
third party non-free (as in beer ;) tool.



SUN's equivalent to AIX's 'mksysb' is:  ufsdump (backup OS) and
ufsrestore
(restore filesystems).  Sorry, I don't have sample scripts, however, you
can
go to SUN's website, www.sun.com, and do a search of ufsdump to get the
online command reference.

PS. It's free.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Wouter V
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup of Sun OS

MessageThere is a separate product that has the same functionality as
mksysb
on AIX, it is called 'JUMPSTART'.Contrary to mksysb, it is not a free
product.  I think you can by it at Sun.

Regards,
Wouter Verschaeve
Unix Sys. Engineer
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  Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
  Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2002 20:59
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  Onderwerp: Backup of Sun OS


  HI everybody,

  The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so
I
greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did
not
work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know
of a
solution for SUN.
  TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
  Thanks
  Andrea Mac Murray
  Sen. Systems Administrator
  ConAgra Foods, Inc.
  7300 World Communication Drive
  Omaha,NE 68122
  Tel: (402) 577-3603
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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High Performance Computing  Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167

I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer
industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer
industry
didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams


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Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-28 Thread Robert Cross

Andrea MacMurray wrote:
The problem is that our Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and
then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did
not work.

Andrea: the answer is to use ufsdump/ufsrestore. We're in the same position
as you, and we ended up
with the locally-developed low-tech solution of using 8mm tapes with a tar
archive followed by the O/S ufsdumps. What we
then do in a DR is:
1:   Boot the destination system with an OS CD. This doesn't even have to
be the same OS level as
the one we're restoring, we just need a running system.
2:   Restore the tar archive and unpack it. This gives us a whole load of
documentation plus a script. We then run this
script which formats out the OS filesystems we need, (/, /usr, /var, etc).
3:   The script then restores the data from the tape, (only the OS areas,
not application/data areas), and finally does
an installboot using the boot block, (and installboot), just restored from
tape.
4:   Reboot with the newly restored OS, and TSM-restore everything else.

One of the things we're looking at is making boot images that could be
saved into TSM, and then reloaded via 'boot net -s', or
failing that a customised boot CD.

As other people have said you might want to seriously look at the Kernel
Group's 'Bare Metal Restore' product. However, if you check this
list's archive's you'll see that there are doubts over it's long term
future, given that Veritas now own it.

Oh, the other thing would be to use Sun's Jumpstart system along with
customised boot media. We're also looking at this, (as a low priority
item),
since it's standard and free, (I've got printed Jumpstart docs that came
with the installation media, but they're also available on docs.sun.com).

Regards

Robert Cross, EDS UK Ltd.




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Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-27 Thread Remco Post

Hi,

Jumpstart is free, and is more like the AIX nim. ufsdump/restore are ok tools,
but they don't make a bootable image. The angian, if your happy with 'boot net
-s' or 'boot cdrom -s' mount the nsf fs the ufsdump is on and then restoreing 
maulally, you'll probably be ok using usfdump.  If you want to do these things 
automatically with one command, you'll probably need a very customized junpstart (not 
entierly impossible, if you have the time), or a third party non-free (as in beer ;) 
tool.



 SUN's equivalent to AIX's 'mksysb' is:  ufsdump (backup OS) and ufsrestore
 (restore filesystems).  Sorry, I don't have sample scripts, however, you can
 go to SUN's website, www.sun.com, and do a search of ufsdump to get the
 online command reference.

 PS. It's free.

 Jack

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Wouter V
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Backup of Sun OS

 MessageThere is a separate product that has the same functionality as mksysb
 on AIX, it is called 'JUMPSTART'.Contrary to mksysb, it is not a free
 product.  I think you can by it at Sun.

 Regards,
 Wouter Verschaeve
 Unix Sys. Engineer
   -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
   Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
 MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
   Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2002 20:59
   Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Onderwerp: Backup of Sun OS


   HI everybody,

   The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I
 greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
 Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
 backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did not
 work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know of a
 solution for SUN.
   TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
   Thanks
   Andrea Mac Murray
   Sen. Systems Administrator
   ConAgra Foods, Inc.
   7300 World Communication Drive
   Omaha,NE 68122
   Tel: (402) 577-3603
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam
High Performance Computing  Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167

I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer
industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry
didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams



Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-27 Thread Ray Schafer

You could also take a look at Bare Metal Restore - from VERITAS.  It was
formerly a TKG product, but TKG was aquired by and megerd into VERITAS.
 You can still get BMR for TSM from IBM channels.


Remco Post wrote:

Hi,

Jumpstart is free, and is more like the AIX nim. ufsdump/restore are ok tools,
but they don't make a bootable image. The angian, if your happy with 'boot net
-s' or 'boot cdrom -s' mount the nsf fs the ufsdump is on and then restoreing 
maulally, you'll probably be ok using usfdump.  If you want to do these things 
automatically with one command, you'll probably need a very customized junpstart (not 
entierly impossible, if you have the time), or a third party non-free (as in beer ;) 
tool.



SUN's equivalent to AIX's 'mksysb' is:  ufsdump (backup OS) and ufsrestore
(restore filesystems).  Sorry, I don't have sample scripts, however, you can
go to SUN's website, www.sun.com, and do a search of ufsdump to get the
online command reference.

PS. It's free.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Wouter V
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup of Sun OS

MessageThere is a separate product that has the same functionality as mksysb
on AIX, it is called 'JUMPSTART'.Contrary to mksysb, it is not a free
product.  I think you can by it at Sun.

Regards,
Wouter Verschaeve
Unix Sys. Engineer
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
  Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2002 20:59
  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Onderwerp: Backup of Sun OS


  HI everybody,

  The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I
greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did not
work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know of a
solution for SUN.
  TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
  Thanks
  Andrea Mac Murray
  Sen. Systems Administrator
  ConAgra Foods, Inc.
  7300 World Communication Drive
  Omaha,NE 68122
  Tel: (402) 577-3603
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam
High Performance Computing  Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167

I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer
industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry
didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams


--
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Field Sales Strategy[EMAIL PROTECTED]  +1 512 433 3300



Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-26 Thread Dylan Ryback

MessageHere's a link to a post someone put up about a year ago:

http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0012/344.html

Some other good resources:

http://www.backupcentral.com (this site is run by the author of O'Reillys' UNIX 
Backup  Recovery -  an excellent book).  In his book, there's a whole chapter 
dedicated to SunOS/Solaris.  There are links all over this site to great scripts, free 
software, and other good backup related resources.

http://www.autovault.org/discus/index.html  (look for the Tivoli Storage Manager 
Scripts link)

Good luck!


  - Original Message - 
  From: MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs) 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:59 PM
  Subject: Backup of Sun OS


  HI everybody,

  The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I greatly 
would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our Unix team wants to 
backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this backed up OS backup and boot 
the machine from there, which of course did not work. I know AIX has the make sysb 
solution for this, does anybody know of a solution for SUN.
  TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
  Thanks
  Andrea Mac Murray 
  Sen. Systems Administrator 
  ConAgra Foods, Inc. 
  7300 World Communication Drive 
  Omaha,NE 68122 
  Tel: (402) 577-3603 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-25 Thread MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
Title: Message



HI
everybody,

The first thing I
have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I greatly would appreciate
all the help I can get. The problem is that our Unix team wants to backup a
running Sun OS and then later on restore this backed up OS backup and boot the
machine from there, which of course did not work. I know AIX has the make sysb
solution for this, does anybody know of a solution for SUN.
TSM version 4.2.1.9
on AIX 4.3.3
Thanks

Andrea Mac
Murray Sen. Systems Administrator ConAgra Foods, Inc. 7300 World Communication
Drive Omaha,NE 68122 Tel: (402) 577-3603 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-25 Thread Bern Ruelas

Hi Andrea,

There is a product just for that - The Kernel Group's Bare Metal
Restore.

-Bern

HI everybody,

The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I
greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did
not
work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know of
a
solution for SUN.
TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
Thanks
Andrea Mac Murray
Sen. Systems Administrator
ConAgra Foods, Inc.
7300 World Communication Drive
Omaha,NE 68122
Tel: (402) 577-3603
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-25 Thread Wouter V

MessageThere is a separate product that has the same functionality as mksysb
on AIX, it is called 'JUMPSTART'.Contrary to mksysb, it is not a free
product.  I think you can by it at Sun.

Regards,
Wouter Verschaeve
Unix Sys. Engineer
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
  Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2002 20:59
  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Onderwerp: Backup of Sun OS


  HI everybody,

  The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I
greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did not
work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know of a
solution for SUN.
  TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
  Thanks
  Andrea Mac Murray
  Sen. Systems Administrator
  ConAgra Foods, Inc.
  7300 World Communication Drive
  Omaha,NE 68122
  Tel: (402) 577-3603
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Backup of Sun OS

2002-01-25 Thread Jack Musselman

SUN's equivalent to AIX's 'mksysb' is:  ufsdump (backup OS) and ufsrestore
(restore filesystems).  Sorry, I don't have sample scripts, however, you can
go to SUN's website, www.sun.com, and do a search of ufsdump to get the
online command reference.

PS. It's free.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Wouter V
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup of Sun OS

MessageThere is a separate product that has the same functionality as mksysb
on AIX, it is called 'JUMPSTART'.Contrary to mksysb, it is not a free
product.  I think you can by it at Sun.

Regards,
Wouter Verschaeve
Unix Sys. Engineer
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)
  Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2002 20:59
  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Onderwerp: Backup of Sun OS


  HI everybody,

  The first thing I have to say to this is that I am NOT a UNIX guru, so I
greatly would appreciate all the help I can get. The problem is that our
Unix team wants to backup a running Sun OS and then later on restore this
backed up OS backup and boot the machine from there, which of course did not
work. I know AIX has the make sysb solution for this, does anybody know of a
solution for SUN.
  TSM version 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3
  Thanks
  Andrea Mac Murray
  Sen. Systems Administrator
  ConAgra Foods, Inc.
  7300 World Communication Drive
  Omaha,NE 68122
  Tel: (402) 577-3603
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]