Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
Hello All
We have played around with bulk checkout in our library. We only have ten
recovery slots in our test library, single frame. What we did was have our
local IBM CE perform a teach to convert 20 internal slots to IO recovery
slots. This allows us to skip a day or two to remove any tapes from the
previous night. I know this defeats the purpose of offsite recovery. But
since this is for test it works for now.
Arturo
-Original Message-
From: Estee Chen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
The state remain 'mountable' if it didn't get the chance to reach
the i/o
station, those already in i/o station will have the state of
'courier'
>From: "Selva, Perpetua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:53:09 -0400
>
>What happens if someone does not remove them on a daily basis, does
these
>tapes wait till the next day to be checked out or it thinks they
are
>checked
>out.. This is where the problem arises...
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:44 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
>
>
>I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4
3590E-1A
>drives.
>I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue
the
>checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a
time till
>it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to
remove the 10
>so it can continue but it always does.
>
>Am I missing something???
>
>Geoff
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
> >
> >
> > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to
> > open a PMR at one
> > time and got nowhere.
> >
> > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it
> > doesn't support
> > bulk checkout.
> >
> > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing
> > some competition
> > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better...
> >
> > My opionions and nobody else's,
> >
> > Wanda Prather
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Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
All, There is a new command by TSM under 3.7.3.5 called "untilee=full". This was recently created for Marriott a couple of months ago by Tivoli. It should allow you to check out tapes into the bulk I/O. Upon a full door it will stop processing. You will then have to re-execute the script. This should get you out of the water. You can put it into a loop script or something until you get all tapes out of the silos. Thanks Matt -Original Message- From: Selva, Perpetua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes Those in i/o station are still not-mountable till the status changed to 'courier' or 'vault'. ..Please verify if this is correct ... Thanks in advance -Original Message- From: Estee Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes The state remain 'mountable' if it didn't get the chance to reach the i/o station, those already in i/o station will have the state of 'courier' >From: "Selva, Perpetua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:53:09 -0400 > >What happens if someone does not remove them on a daily basis, does these >tapes wait till the next day to be checked out or it thinks they are >checked >out.. This is where the problem arises... > >-Original Message- >From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:44 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > >I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4 3590E-1A >drives. >I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue the >checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a time till >it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to remove the 10 >so it can continue but it always does. > >Am I missing something??? > >Geoff > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > > > > > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to > > open a PMR at one > > time and got nowhere. > > > > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it > > doesn't support > > bulk checkout. > > > > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing > > some competition > > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... > > > > My opionions and nobody else's, > > > > Wanda Prather _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
Those in i/o station are still not-mountable till the status changed to 'courier' or 'vault'. ..Please verify if this is correct ... Thanks in advance -Original Message- From: Estee Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes The state remain 'mountable' if it didn't get the chance to reach the i/o station, those already in i/o station will have the state of 'courier' >From: "Selva, Perpetua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:53:09 -0400 > >What happens if someone does not remove them on a daily basis, does these >tapes wait till the next day to be checked out or it thinks they are >checked >out.. This is where the problem arises... > >-Original Message- >From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:44 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > >I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4 3590E-1A >drives. >I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue the >checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a time till >it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to remove the 10 >so it can continue but it always does. > >Am I missing something??? > >Geoff > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > > > > > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to > > open a PMR at one > > time and got nowhere. > > > > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it > > doesn't support > > bulk checkout. > > > > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing > > some competition > > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... > > > > My opionions and nobody else's, > > > > Wanda Prather _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
The state remain 'mountable' if it didn't get the chance to reach the i/o station, those already in i/o station will have the state of 'courier' >From: "Selva, Perpetua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:53:09 -0400 > >What happens if someone does not remove them on a daily basis, does these >tapes wait till the next day to be checked out or it thinks they are >checked >out.. This is where the problem arises... > >-Original Message- >From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:44 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > >I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4 3590E-1A >drives. >I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue the >checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a time till >it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to remove the 10 >so it can continue but it always does. > >Am I missing something??? > >Geoff > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > > > > > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to > > open a PMR at one > > time and got nowhere. > > > > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it > > doesn't support > > bulk checkout. > > > > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing > > some competition > > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... > > > > My opionions and nobody else's, > > > > Wanda Prather _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
> -Original Message- > From: Selva, Perpetua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes I have not had the problem of tapes not being removed. Since we have to make sure tapes are sent to offsite each day then it would behoove us to make sure they do get removed. What good is offsite storage if you don't use it? Otherwise I guess a good swift kick in the %$*# would get it done.
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
What happens if someone does not remove them on a daily basis, does these tapes wait till the next day to be checked out or it thinks they are checked out.. This is where the problem arises... -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4 3590E-1A drives. I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue the checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a time till it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to remove the 10 so it can continue but it always does. Am I missing something??? Geoff > -Original Message- > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to > open a PMR at one > time and got nowhere. > > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it > doesn't support > bulk checkout. > > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing > some competition > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... > > My opionions and nobody else's, > > Wanda Prather
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to open a PMR at one time and got nowhere. It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it doesn't support bulk checkout. Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing some competition for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... My opionions and nobody else's, Wanda Prather > -Original Message- > From: Selva, Perpetua [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > Hi All, > > The library has been checking out more tapes than what could be fit in our > bulk slots.. However, there is no check to see what to do if it exceeds > this > number at times.. with DRM. This leads to tapes remaining behind in the > library and not being able to remove with the checkout command .. Only way > to get them out is to remove them physically.. > > > IF anyone has ideas, please let me know.. > > Thanks
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
I have ADSM 3.1.2.55 on AIX 4.3.3 with a 3494 pibrary and 4 3590E-1A drives. I have not had any problem as far as I can tell. I use DRM to issue the checkout of all offsite tapes and it sends 10 out the door at a time till it's finished. I haven't had any hangups. Sure someone has to remove the 10 so it can continue but it always does. Am I missing something??? Geoff > -Original Message- > From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > > I'm glad to see someone else raise this issue. I tried to > open a PMR at one > time and got nowhere. > > It's an outrage how much EXTRA money we pay for DRM, and it > doesn't support > bulk checkout. > > Maybe now that there is a third party (AUTOVAULT) providing > some competition > for DRM, Tivoli will have an incentive to do better... > > My opionions and nobody else's, > > Wanda Prather
Re: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes
We use the IO station, not the bulk slots, and we have an external (to ADSM) script which does the checkouts - which runs until all the tapes are checked out or a timeout value is exceeded (and then an error is logged). Jim > -- > From: Selva, Perpetua[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Bulk slots and checkout of Tapes > > Hi All, > > The library has been checking out more tapes than what could be fit in our > bulk slots.. However, there is no check to see what to do if it exceeds > this > number at times.. with DRM. This leads to tapes remaining behind in the > library and not being able to remove with the checkout command .. Only way > to get them out is to remove them physically.. > > > IF anyone has ideas, please let me know.. > > Thanks >
