Re: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME
You noticed the system object includes stuff you would think it should not, also. I cannot remember, but I think they discussed this issue at Share and the need to perform incremental "object" checking for the objects in the system object. If they did that, then I think the problem will go away. The system object has been a real pain. I also found out today that the 4.2.2.12 patch includes the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS command. I have been running it off and on for 3 days now. Boy is it waxing a bunch of stuff. We did not know how bad we had the system object problem. I am hoping they will consider including a correction to this uncontrolled growth area. One thing for sure we have implemented a management class for the system object so that it will get trimmed. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Miles Purdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME Hi folks, TSM Server 5.1.1.6 (was 4.1.1 but behavior is the same) (on AIX 4.3.3) TSM Windows Client 5.1.1.5 (was 4.2.1 but behavior is the same) Windows W2K SP2 My problem is that the W2K clients are always backing up a whack of .exe's and .dll's. The reason that it is backing them up is that the modified date/time keeps getting updated. Interestingly enough, the time seems to be when the TSM schedule starts! These files are obviously not changing. The other thing is it seems to be backing up the files as system objects and not files. If I run 'dsmc inc c:', it backs up about 10mb. If I run 'dsmc inc' it backs up around 800mb. Any ideas? Miles -- Miles Purdy System Manager Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Information Systems Team, Farm Income Programs Directorate Winnipeg, MB, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557 "If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?" -
Re: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME
> All system files are backed up every time regardless of whether they are > changed. This is thanks to the stupidity of Microsoft's inclusion of the event logs as part of the system objects. On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Rushforth, Tim wrote: > Windows 2000 backs up the system files (a whole whack of dll's and exe's) as > part of the system object. The default domain for an incremental includes > the System Object. You can change the default ALL-LOCAL domain to not > include the system object BUT be aware that the SYSTEM OBJECT also contains > the registry, event logs, cluster db, active db, comm db ...) > > All system files are backed up every time regardless of whether they are > changed. > > Tim Rushforth > City of Winnipeg > > -Original Message- > From: Miles Purdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: September 26, 2002 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME > > Hi folks, > > TSM Server 5.1.1.6 (was 4.1.1 but behavior is the same) (on AIX 4.3.3) > TSM Windows Client 5.1.1.5 (was 4.2.1 but behavior is the same) > Windows W2K SP2 > > My problem is that the W2K clients are always backing up a whack of .exe's > and .dll's. The reason that it is backing them up is that the modified > date/time keeps getting updated. Interestingly enough, the time seems to be > when the TSM schedule starts! These files are obviously not changing. > > The other thing is it seems to be backing up the files as system objects and > not files. If I run 'dsmc inc c:', it backs up about 10mb. If I run 'dsmc > inc' it backs up around 800mb. > > Any ideas? > > Miles > > > > -- > Miles Purdy > System Manager > Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, > Information Systems Team, > Farm Income Programs Directorate > Winnipeg, MB, CA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557 > > "If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?" > > - >
Re: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME
Windows 2000 backs up the system files (a whole whack of dll's and exe's) as part of the system object. The default domain for an incremental includes the System Object. You can change the default ALL-LOCAL domain to not include the system object BUT be aware that the SYSTEM OBJECT also contains the registry, event logs, cluster db, active db, comm db ...) All system files are backed up every time regardless of whether they are changed. Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Miles Purdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 26, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WIN2k Clients Backing up Executables ALL THE TIME Hi folks, TSM Server 5.1.1.6 (was 4.1.1 but behavior is the same) (on AIX 4.3.3) TSM Windows Client 5.1.1.5 (was 4.2.1 but behavior is the same) Windows W2K SP2 My problem is that the W2K clients are always backing up a whack of .exe's and .dll's. The reason that it is backing them up is that the modified date/time keeps getting updated. Interestingly enough, the time seems to be when the TSM schedule starts! These files are obviously not changing. The other thing is it seems to be backing up the files as system objects and not files. If I run 'dsmc inc c:', it backs up about 10mb. If I run 'dsmc inc' it backs up around 800mb. Any ideas? Miles -- Miles Purdy System Manager Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Information Systems Team, Farm Income Programs Directorate Winnipeg, MB, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557 "If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?" -
