Re: TSM 5.1 on linux kernel

2003-06-12 Thread Radoslav Bendik
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Alexander Lazarevich wrote:

> When I read in the manual for TSM install, it said that TSM requires the
> 2.4.9-31(smp) kernel. I figured that meant that kernel or newer. Boy was I
> wrong. I'm trying to install drivers for my Overland library and drives,
> and it's giving me the: "The supported kernel levels are 2.4.9-31..."

Hi.


I think if they want to have closed source driver, they could do it like
NVidia does for their graphics driver. It is divided into two parts.
Kernel independent binary module and wrapper module, which is open source
and kernel version dependent and anyone can compile it with (almost) any
version of linux kernel.

Isn't it a way for IBM?


--
rado b
Why Did You Reboot That Machine?


Re: TSM 5.1 on linux kernel

2003-06-12 Thread Mitch Sako
It's my opinion that they could have done a better job of choosing which distros
and kernels to offer out.  My first choice would have been a recent SuSE
professional (not the $600 enterprise version) distribution instead of Redhat
7.2 with an antiquated kernel that will not run on their X-series hardware.
Otherwise, they could have picked a newer Redhat release.  I'm using the SuSE
enterprise 7 now on an X345 but that wasn't trivial to get up and running,
either.  SuSE is far less proprietary in their kernels than Redhat and I think
it's really a shame that the only non-enterprise choice was Redhat 7.2.  I've
got it working (RH72), but it's not pretty and the SCSI support really doesn't
work satisfactorily.

Mitch

Geert De Pecker wrote:

> Alex,
>
> I had the same problem and was very amazed that IBM, which I consider
> as a BIG linux promotor, does not maintain the tivoli for linux on an
> acceptable level.
>
> We had to go back to the specified kernel to get the scsi utilities
> working (IBMtape, tsmscsi).
>
> After trying with 8.0, we finally went back to the RH7.3 with the
> 2.4.9-31smp kernel.
>
> Big joke: that kernel did not recognize the ethernet card from the IBM
> X225  I ended with inserting an intel card.
>
> As this kernel version seems to work with the drives and library, I plan
> to stick onto this one and hope IBM will soon release a better version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 16:04, Alexander Lazarevich wrote:
> > Regarding TSM 5.1 Extended on RedHat Linux 9.0:
> >
> > When I read in the manual for TSM install, it said that TSM requires the
> > 2.4.9-31(smp) kernel. I figured that meant that kernel or newer. Boy was I
> > wrong. I'm trying to install drivers for my Overland library and drives,
> > and it's giving me the: "The supported kernel levels are 2.4.9-31..."
> >
> > I assume others have hit this problem, and I'm curious what they've
> > done?
> >
> > 1) Run a totally different OS?
> > - AIX? Does TSM have any kernel problems with device drivers for Overland
> >   Neo 4100 Series libraries and Drives? Windows?
> > - Windows 2000 Server? or just 2000 Pro? Anyone have a good experience
> >   with putting TSM 5.1 on Windows platform? (other than the usual windows
> >   troubles)
> >
> > 2) Run the old 2.4.9-31 kernel? Doesn't this leave your system vulnerable?
> > And don't other rpm's require certain kernel levels? So if you kept using
> > 2.4.9-31 kernel then you'd have a problem running other rpm's? What if we
> > purchase RedHat Enterprise Linux? Will that platform run the 2.4.9-31
> > kernel reliably?
> >
> > 3) Some other solution? Recompile the new kernels with support for the
> > device drivers?
> >
> > Please feel free to enter any input. I think we are willing to move to any
> > other option, whatever is the best.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Alex
> > ---   ---
> >Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group
> > Beckman Institute - University of Illinois
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu
> > ---   ---
> >


Re: TSM 5.1 on linux kernel

2003-06-12 Thread Geert De Pecker
Alex,

I had the same problem and was very amazed that IBM, which I consider
as a BIG linux promotor, does not maintain the tivoli for linux on an
acceptable level.

We had to go back to the specified kernel to get the scsi utilities
working (IBMtape, tsmscsi).

After trying with 8.0, we finally went back to the RH7.3 with the
2.4.9-31smp kernel.

Big joke: that kernel did not recognize the ethernet card from the IBM
X225  I ended with inserting an intel card.

As this kernel version seems to work with the drives and library, I plan
to stick onto this one and hope IBM will soon release a better version.

Regards,

Geert


On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 16:04, Alexander Lazarevich wrote:
> Regarding TSM 5.1 Extended on RedHat Linux 9.0:
>
> When I read in the manual for TSM install, it said that TSM requires the
> 2.4.9-31(smp) kernel. I figured that meant that kernel or newer. Boy was I
> wrong. I'm trying to install drivers for my Overland library and drives,
> and it's giving me the: "The supported kernel levels are 2.4.9-31..."
>
> I assume others have hit this problem, and I'm curious what they've
> done?
>
> 1) Run a totally different OS?
> - AIX? Does TSM have any kernel problems with device drivers for Overland
>   Neo 4100 Series libraries and Drives? Windows?
> - Windows 2000 Server? or just 2000 Pro? Anyone have a good experience
>   with putting TSM 5.1 on Windows platform? (other than the usual windows
>   troubles)
>
> 2) Run the old 2.4.9-31 kernel? Doesn't this leave your system vulnerable?
> And don't other rpm's require certain kernel levels? So if you kept using
> 2.4.9-31 kernel then you'd have a problem running other rpm's? What if we
> purchase RedHat Enterprise Linux? Will that platform run the 2.4.9-31
> kernel reliably?
>
> 3) Some other solution? Recompile the new kernels with support for the
> device drivers?
>
> Please feel free to enter any input. I think we are willing to move to any
> other option, whatever is the best.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Alex
> ---   ---
>Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group
> Beckman Institute - University of Illinois
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu
> ---   ---
>


Re: TSM 5.1 on linux kernel

2003-06-12 Thread Deon George
G'day Alex,

Unfortunately, the only SUPPORTed linux kernels are the ones as listed in
the readme. Which means if you encounter any problems running a different
kernel - you'll be asked to go back to the supported kernels to see if
your problem still exists.

As to the questions of vulnerabilities with running just the supported
kernels - I guess there will be many views on that - but if your TSM
server is running in your network, without public access, then I dont
think you'd be any more vulnerable (infant I think you are less, but I
digress) to running a Windows machine that doesnt have a service pack (or
hot fix), that fixes know exploits.

Now, if you want to run TSM on Linux without tape hardware (using say,
virtual volumes or disk pools), then you really only need to be concerned
with the GLIBC version that you are running. (I run TSM on Linux that is
tapeless, on RH 7.3 custom kernel, without any problems.)

If you need the old kernel, I have it on the A/NZ TUG site - details
below.

...deon
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 13/06/2003
12:04:16 AM:

> Regarding TSM 5.1 Extended on RedHat Linux 9.0:
>
> When I read in the manual for TSM install, it said that TSM requires the
> 2.4.9-31(smp) kernel. I figured that meant that kernel or newer. Boy was
I
> wrong. I'm trying to install drivers for my Overland library and drives,
> and it's giving me the: "The supported kernel levels are 2.4.9-31..."
>
> I assume others have hit this problem, and I'm curious what they've
> done?
>
> 1) Run a totally different OS?
> - AIX? Does TSM have any kernel problems with device drivers for
Overland
>   Neo 4100 Series libraries and Drives? Windows?
> - Windows 2000 Server? or just 2000 Pro? Anyone have a good experience
>   with putting TSM 5.1 on Windows platform? (other than the usual
windows
>   troubles)
>
> 2) Run the old 2.4.9-31 kernel? Doesn't this leave your system
vulnerable?
> And don't other rpm's require certain kernel levels? So if you kept
using
> 2.4.9-31 kernel then you'd have a problem running other rpm's? What if
we
> purchase RedHat Enterprise Linux? Will that platform run the 2.4.9-31
> kernel reliably?
>
> 3) Some other solution? Recompile the new kernels with support for the
> device drivers?
>
> Please feel free to enter any input. I think we are willing to move to
any
> other option, whatever is the best.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Alex
> ---   ---
>Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group
> Beckman Institute - University of Illinois
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu
> ---   ---


TSM 5.1 on linux kernel

2003-06-12 Thread Alexander Lazarevich
Regarding TSM 5.1 Extended on RedHat Linux 9.0:

When I read in the manual for TSM install, it said that TSM requires the
2.4.9-31(smp) kernel. I figured that meant that kernel or newer. Boy was I
wrong. I'm trying to install drivers for my Overland library and drives,
and it's giving me the: "The supported kernel levels are 2.4.9-31..."

I assume others have hit this problem, and I'm curious what they've
done?

1) Run a totally different OS?
- AIX? Does TSM have any kernel problems with device drivers for Overland
  Neo 4100 Series libraries and Drives? Windows?
- Windows 2000 Server? or just 2000 Pro? Anyone have a good experience
  with putting TSM 5.1 on Windows platform? (other than the usual windows
  troubles)

2) Run the old 2.4.9-31 kernel? Doesn't this leave your system vulnerable?
And don't other rpm's require certain kernel levels? So if you kept using
2.4.9-31 kernel then you'd have a problem running other rpm's? What if we
purchase RedHat Enterprise Linux? Will that platform run the 2.4.9-31
kernel reliably?

3) Some other solution? Recompile the new kernels with support for the
device drivers?

Please feel free to enter any input. I think we are willing to move to any
other option, whatever is the best.

Thanks in advance,

Alex
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   Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group
Beckman Institute - University of Illinois
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu
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