Re: TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

2002-09-05 Thread Gerhard Rentschler

Hello,

> I have hesitated going to 5.1 after hearing some of the stories
> on this list
> about 3494 problems, and resource manager timeouts.
>
at least the problem with expiration hangs is solved with IC34292. It is in
5.1.1.4.
Best regards
Gerhard

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Re: TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

2002-09-05 Thread Bob Booth - UIUC

What patch level of 5.1 are you running?


I have hesitated going to 5.1 after hearing some of the stories on this list
about 3494 problems, and resource manager timeouts.

thanks,

Bob Booth

On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 11:23:56AM -0400, William Rosette wrote:
> We went from 4.1 to 5.1 and enjoyed the expire working better with our
> backupsets and volume history.  I thought I would have a gotcha with our
> 3494 tape library but that did not even get me.  I do have to watch the
> Tape Path along with the Tape Drive for tape issues, but other then most
> minor problems our 5.1 seems to be running just as good if not better.  We
> even did a DR test and TSM seemed to work OK, for restore nodes.  Our DR
> plan needs to be revisited so that it can work more effecient, but we
> always seem to want to do more tests each DR test time (once a year).  4
> years ago we had 20 tapes to restore and 2-3 clients, this year was 351
> tapes and 10 full restores, with network and frame cut overs.
>
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> Thank You,
> Bill Rosette
> Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International
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> We are thinking about upgrading our AIX  TSM v4.1 server to v5.1 and
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> My questions are:
> Has anyone else done this?
> How stable is v5.1
> Any gotchas that we need to watch out for?
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> Thanks for any information you can provide!!
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> Michael Moore
> VF Services Inc.
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Re: TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

2002-09-05 Thread William Rosette

We went from 4.1 to 5.1 and enjoyed the expire working better with our
backupsets and volume history.  I thought I would have a gotcha with our
3494 tape library but that did not even get me.  I do have to watch the
Tape Path along with the Tape Drive for tape issues, but other then most
minor problems our 5.1 seems to be running just as good if not better.  We
even did a DR test and TSM seemed to work OK, for restore nodes.  Our DR
plan needs to be revisited so that it can work more effecient, but we
always seem to want to do more tests each DR test time (once a year).  4
years ago we had 20 tapes to restore and 2-3 clients, this year was 351
tapes and 10 full restores, with network and frame cut overs.



Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International
WWJD


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We are thinking about upgrading our AIX  TSM v4.1 server to v5.1 and
skipping version 4.2.

My questions are:
Has anyone else done this?
How stable is v5.1
Any gotchas that we need to watch out for?

Thanks for any information you can provide!!

Michael Moore
VF Services Inc.
121 Smith Street
Greensboro,  NC  27420-1488

Voice: 336-332-4423
Fax: 336-332-4544



Re: TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

2002-09-05 Thread Steve Argersinger

We've been running for about a month at 5.1.1.  Only issue we have
encountered was with Windows 2000 and doing archives using alternate
management classes.  Other than that, it's worked great.

Steve Argersinger
Ruan Transportation

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Subject: TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

We are thinking about upgrading our AIX  TSM v4.1 server to v5.1 and
skipping version 4.2.

My questions are:
Has anyone else done this?
How stable is v5.1
Any gotchas that we need to watch out for?

Thanks for any information you can provide!!

Michael Moore
VF Services Inc.
121 Smith Street
Greensboro,  NC  27420-1488

Voice: 336-332-4423
Fax: 336-332-4544



TSM v5.1 Stability on AIX

2002-09-05 Thread Michael Moore

We are thinking about upgrading our AIX  TSM v4.1 server to v5.1 and
skipping version 4.2.

My questions are:
Has anyone else done this?
How stable is v5.1
Any gotchas that we need to watch out for?

Thanks for any information you can provide!!

Michael Moore
VF Services Inc.
121 Smith Street
Greensboro,  NC  27420-1488

Voice: 336-332-4423
Fax: 336-332-4544



Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-15 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Andy!
You're right! I was still using the 4.2.0.0 ODBC driver. I retried the 5.1
ODBC install and when it prompted me for the Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi I pointed it to the 4.2.0.0 setup on the CD. The setup continued
and the 5.1.0.1 version is now installed.
Thanks again Andy!!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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H... not a good sign.

I downloaded the driver this morning and verified the install myself, and
it went alright.

Do you have an existing ODBC driver installed? If so, which version?

I suspect that this could be an issue with removing the older ODBC driver.
Try this:

1) From Add/Remove Programs, remove the old ODBC driver.

2) You may get a prompt similar to the above. If so, go get the install
package for that driver, and extract the install image (but don't run
setup). Then try the uninstall again. If prompted, point to the .msi file
in the old driver's install image (the one you just unpacked).

3) If that works, then try installing the new driver.

Let me know how this goes.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
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Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid
installation
package...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The command line is your friend.
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The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
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> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
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Re: TSM V5.1 - RC=4

2002-04-13 Thread Zlatko Krastev

Andy,

I do not want to say this was intentional. What I am mostly interested is
which parts of v4.2.1.0 discussions are applicable for v5.1 client.

If we look at the client as a black-box (and in fact customer does not
need to know why and what drives the client to perform this way) we are
having same behavior. Coincidence or not it doesn't matter. Backward
compatibility is not a bad thing so I personally would be happy to see
some kind of client option restoring v4.x behavior.

After Tim's post I visited the site to check was is in the docs. And I
wrote that this behavior is documented. For sure we do not have v4.2.1
"inconsistency" `-)

I appreciated the RC=4 in v4.2.1 client and even was sad seeing its a bug
and will go away. But as you know some inventions in Physics and Chemistry
were results of mistakes :-)
Unfortunately Share is too far for me (I have to traverse too many time
zones to go there) and have no power to influence the development. Maybe
would be worth to have some way to define which files should produce rc=4
on backup failure instead of digging down the logs. OTOH maybe I am too
lazy.


Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant




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>>
my question is mainly targeted to Andy Raibeck but all opinions are
welcome. This behavior was first implemeted at v4.2.1.0 client. The
discussion at that time finished with opinion this was a bug and later
behavior restored to normal. Now RC=4 is getting back but as a feature and
is documented.
<<

A keen observation, but entirely coincidental, and thus not an apt
characterization. In 4.2.1.0, the RC=4 behavior was not "implemented" per
se, as that would suggest intent. It wasn't as if that were a "sneak
preview" of things to come. Rather, it was a bug (well documented in APAR
IC31844) that was introduced as an unintentional side effect of another
otherwise unrelated code change.

RC=4 notwithstanding, in 5.1, the underlying intent, design, and code for
the "consistent return codes" feature in no way, shape, or form, resembles
the bug from 4.2.1.0. The RC=4 is at most a vague resemblance, but that is
where any similarity ends.



>>
So the question I am asking myself and hoping for your help:
Is RC=4 good indicator for successful backup with some files skipped?
<<

Yes, just as it is documented in the book, which Tim quoted from below.
This is what the "consistent" in "consistent return codes" is all about!
:-)



>>
How would we check which files are not backed up?
How to distinguish between files we can skip and files we absolutely do
not want to miss backup?
<<

Probably by whichever methods you already have in place (i.e. check the
dsmerror.log, dsmsched.log, etc.). The "consistent return codes" feature
is intended only to let you know the general status of the operation. By
having the RC=0 and RC=4, you know exactly which clients skipped files. In
prior versions of ADSM/TSM, you always got RC=0, regardless of whether any
files were skipped, so you always had to check every client to see if it
skipped files.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Hello all,

my question is mainly targeted to Andy Raibeck but all opinions are
welcome. This behavior was first implemeted at v4.2.1.0 client. The
discussion at that time finished with opinion this was a bug and later
behavior restored to normal. Now RC=4 is getting back but as a feature and
is documented.
So the question I am asking myself and hoping for your help:
Is RC=4 good indicator for successful backup with some files skipped?
How would we check which files are not backed up?
How to distinguish between files we can skip and files we absolutely do
not want to miss backup?

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant

P.S. Some of you are lucky enough and already have the code. I am still
waiting to put my hands on it.

Zlatko




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I think the addition of return codes is great but have a question o

Re: TSM V5.1 - RC=4

2002-04-13 Thread Andrew Raibeck

>>
my question is mainly targeted to Andy Raibeck but all opinions are
welcome. This behavior was first implemeted at v4.2.1.0 client. The
discussion at that time finished with opinion this was a bug and later
behavior restored to normal. Now RC=4 is getting back but as a feature and
is documented.
<<

A keen observation, but entirely coincidental, and thus not an apt
characterization. In 4.2.1.0, the RC=4 behavior was not "implemented" per
se, as that would suggest intent. It wasn't as if that were a "sneak
preview" of things to come. Rather, it was a bug (well documented in APAR
IC31844) that was introduced as an unintentional side effect of another
otherwise unrelated code change.

RC=4 notwithstanding, in 5.1, the underlying intent, design, and code for
the "consistent return codes" feature in no way, shape, or form, resembles
the bug from 4.2.1.0. The RC=4 is at most a vague resemblance, but that is
where any similarity ends.



>>
So the question I am asking myself and hoping for your help:
Is RC=4 good indicator for successful backup with some files skipped?
<<

Yes, just as it is documented in the book, which Tim quoted from below.
This is what the "consistent" in "consistent return codes" is all about!
:-)



>>
How would we check which files are not backed up?
How to distinguish between files we can skip and files we absolutely do
not want to miss backup?
<<

Probably by whichever methods you already have in place (i.e. check the
dsmerror.log, dsmsched.log, etc.). The "consistent return codes" feature
is intended only to let you know the general status of the operation. By
having the RC=0 and RC=4, you know exactly which clients skipped files. In
prior versions of ADSM/TSM, you always got RC=0, regardless of whether any
files were skipped, so you always had to check every client to see if it
skipped files.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Hello all,

my question is mainly targeted to Andy Raibeck but all opinions are
welcome. This behavior was first implemeted at v4.2.1.0 client. The
discussion at that time finished with opinion this was a bug and later
behavior restored to normal. Now RC=4 is getting back but as a feature and
is documented.
So the question I am asking myself and hoping for your help:
Is RC=4 good indicator for successful backup with some files skipped?
How would we check which files are not backed up?
How to distinguish between files we can skip and files we absolutely do
not want to miss backup?

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant

P.S. Some of you are lucky enough and already have the code. I am still
waiting to put my hands on it.

Zlatko




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I think the addition of return codes is great but have a question on the
rc=4 with excluded files:

The doc specifies:
rc=4: The operation completed successfully, but some files were not
processed.
There were no other errors or warnings. This return code is very common.
Files are not processed for various reasons. The most common reasons are:
- The file is in an exclude list..
- The file was in use by another application and could not be accessed by
the
client
- The file changed during the operation to an extent prohibited by the
copy
serialization attribute.

I have a directory with one subdirectory exluded via exclude and
exlude.archive.

For an incremental of the directory I get rc=0, for an archive or a
selective backup I get rc=4.

I would rather see a different return code for an excluded file (I'm
excluding it so I expect it to not get backed up!).  I think a file that
is
missed because it is open or changed is much more serious than a file that
is excluded.

Why are the return codes inconsistent between incrementals and selective
or
archives?

Or was my testing incorrect?

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

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Yes, you've discovered a new feature. If you are using PRESCHEDULECMD,
then presumably you have some operation that you wish to complete prior to
the scheduled TSM

Re: TSM V5.1 - RC=4

2002-04-13 Thread Zlatko Krastev

Hello all,

my question is mainly targeted to Andy Raibeck but all opinions are
welcome. This behavior was first implemeted at v4.2.1.0 client. The
discussion at that time finished with opinion this was a bug and later
behavior restored to normal. Now RC=4 is getting back but as a feature and
is documented.
So the question I am asking myself and hoping for your help:
Is RC=4 good indicator for successful backup with some files skipped?
How would we check which files are not backed up?
How to distinguish between files we can skip and files we absolutely do
not want to miss backup?

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant

P.S. Some of you are lucky enough and already have the code. I am still
waiting to put my hands on it.

Zlatko




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I think the addition of return codes is great but have a question on the
rc=4 with excluded files:

The doc specifies:
rc=4: The operation completed successfully, but some files were not
processed.
There were no other errors or warnings. This return code is very common.
Files are not processed for various reasons. The most common reasons are:
- The file is in an exclude list..
- The file was in use by another application and could not be accessed by
the
client
- The file changed during the operation to an extent prohibited by the
copy
serialization attribute.

I have a directory with one subdirectory exluded via exclude and
exlude.archive.

For an incremental of the directory I get rc=0, for an archive or a
selective backup I get rc=4.

I would rather see a different return code for an excluded file (I'm
excluding it so I expect it to not get backed up!).  I think a file that
is
missed because it is open or changed is much more serious than a file that
is excluded.

Why are the return codes inconsistent between incrementals and selective
or
archives?

Or was my testing incorrect?

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

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From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, you've discovered a new feature. If you are using PRESCHEDULECMD,
then presumably you have some operation that you wish to complete prior to
the scheduled TSM operation (i.e. shut down a database before incremental
backup runs). In 5.1, we changed PRESCHEDULECMD so that if the command
does end with return code 0, then the scheduled operation will not run.
This change was based on user requirements.

>From the use rmanual, in the section on what's new in 5.1:

==
Reliable, consistent, and documented return codes
have been added to the command line client and the
scheduler. This facilitates automation of client
operations via user-written scripts. By using the
QUERY EVENT command with the FORMAT=DETAILED
option, administrators can now distinguish between
scheduled backups that completed successfully with
no skipped files and scheduled backups that
completed successfully with one or more skipped
files. Also if you use the processing option
preschedulecmd to run a command, and that command
returns a non-zero return code, the scheduled
event will not run. This ensures that scheduled
events will not run if prerequisite commands do
not complete successfully. See Return Codes from
the Command Line Interface,
Preschedulecmd/Prenschedulecmd, and
Postschedulecmd/Postnschedulecmd for more
information.
==

Alternatively, if the command does not need to complete prior to running
the scheduled operation, you can use PRENSCHEDULECMD, which runs
asynchronously, and whose return code is not tracked.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.



Re: TSM V5.1 - new return codes

2002-04-13 Thread Andrew Raibeck

Hi Tim,

Yes, your testing is correct. Since the "file excluded" message (ANS1115W)
is issued for selective and archive, you will get the rc 4; and since
ANS1115W is not issued for incremental backup, the rc will be 0 (barring
any other problems).

Historically TSM has always worked this way, with the "file excluded"
message being issued for selective and archive commands, but not
incremental backup. The rationale is a bit subjective, but a lot of
thought did go into it.

- The most common substantive client operation is almost certainly
incremental backup. Since it is implicitly understood (or should be
understood) that incremental backup will not back up excluded files, we
don't bother to issue the warning message.

- The assumption we make behind selective backup is that you want to back
up *all* files in the file specification (i.e. you have specifically
targeted, or "selected" those files for backup). Thus any failure to back
up any of the files in the file spec is flagged with the warning message.
Of course, it is only assumption, and you know what happens when you
assume but be that as it may, we have to assume *something*, one way
or the other, so to be safe, we issue the warning message letting you know
that certain files were not backed up. The argument for archive is
similar, and maybe even more important, since archives are usually for
longer retention periods: we make the assumption that if you are targeting
files for long-term retention, you want them. All of them. Admittedly,
this falls a bit flat if you have explicitly excluded the files with
exclude.archive, clearly stating intent. On the other hand, if we issued
no warning message, then less experienced customers who really want the
files archived, but forgot about the excluded files, might not be happy,
either. So I think the messages themselves are appropriate, albeit
unnecessary for experienced customers.

With that said, you make a fair point, and I think it merits some thought.
Essentially, I think the issue comes down to whether we want to further
break down "skipped" files into two categories:

- files that are skipped unintentionally
- files that are skipped by intent (i.e. via exclude)

with two different return codes.

Hopefully you understand that on this forum, I can not commit to making
any such a change. Also, keep in mind that we deliberately set out to keep
the number of return codes small so that they could be easily understood
and managed; though in theory, there is no reason that we couldn't have
additional codes, especially when it makes sense (as is possible here). So
please consider this issue noted.

Thanks,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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I think the addition of return codes is great but have a question on the
rc=4 with excluded files:

The doc specifies:
rc=4: The operation completed successfully, but some files were not
processed.
There were no other errors or warnings. This return code is very common.
Files are not processed for various reasons. The most common reasons are:
- The file is in an exclude list..
- The file was in use by another application and could not be accessed by
the
client
- The file changed during the operation to an extent prohibited by the
copy
serialization attribute.

I have a directory with one subdirectory exluded via exclude and
exlude.archive.

For an incremental of the directory I get rc=0, for an archive or a
selective backup I get rc=4.

I would rather see a different return code for an excluded file (I'm
excluding it so I expect it to not get backed up!).  I think a file that
is
missed because it is open or changed is much more serious than a file that
is excluded.

Why are the return codes inconsistent between incrementals and selective
or
archives?

Or was my testing incorrect?

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, you've discovered a new feature. If you are using PRESCHEDULECMD,
then presumably you have some operation that you wish to complete prior to
the scheduled TSM operation (i.e. shut down a database before incremental
backup runs). In 5.1, we changed PRESCHEDULECMD so that if the command
does end with return code 0, then the scheduled operation will 

Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Seay, Paul

I have seen older levels of the Microsoft installer not work from network
drives.  So, if you have the package on a network drive move it to a local
drive and try it.  This is a known Microsoft bug.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


H... not a good sign.

I downloaded the driver this morning and verified the install myself, and it
went alright.

Do you have an existing ODBC driver installed? If so, which version?

I suspect that this could be an issue with removing the older ODBC driver.
Try this:

1) From Add/Remove Programs, remove the old ODBC driver.

2) You may get a prompt similar to the above. If so, go get the install
package for that driver, and extract the install image (but don't run
setup). Then try the uninstall again. If prompted, point to the .msi file in
the old driver's install image (the one you just unpacked).

3) If that works, then try installing the new driver.

Let me know how this goes.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid installation
package... Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday, we
now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2 Windows
NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted data is
received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/12/2002 02:42
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The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional level
software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802


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Re: TSM V5.1 - new return codes

2002-04-12 Thread Rushforth, Tim

I think the addition of return codes is great but have a question on the
rc=4 with excluded files:

The doc specifies:
rc=4: The operation completed successfully, but some files were not
processed.
There were no other errors or warnings. This return code is very common.
Files are not processed for various reasons. The most common reasons are:
- The file is in an exclude list..
- The file was in use by another application and could not be accessed by
the
client
- The file changed during the operation to an extent prohibited by the copy
serialization attribute.

I have a directory with one subdirectory exluded via exclude and
exlude.archive.

For an incremental of the directory I get rc=0, for an archive or a
selective backup I get rc=4.

I would rather see a different return code for an excluded file (I'm
excluding it so I expect it to not get backed up!).  I think a file that is
missed because it is open or changed is much more serious than a file that
is excluded.

Why are the return codes inconsistent between incrementals and selective or
archives?

Or was my testing incorrect?

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, you've discovered a new feature. If you are using PRESCHEDULECMD,
then presumably you have some operation that you wish to complete prior to
the scheduled TSM operation (i.e. shut down a database before incremental
backup runs). In 5.1, we changed PRESCHEDULECMD so that if the command
does end with return code 0, then the scheduled operation will not run.
This change was based on user requirements.

>From the use rmanual, in the section on what's new in 5.1:

==
Reliable, consistent, and documented return codes
have been added to the command line client and the
scheduler. This facilitates automation of client
operations via user-written scripts. By using the
QUERY EVENT command with the FORMAT=DETAILED
option, administrators can now distinguish between
scheduled backups that completed successfully with
no skipped files and scheduled backups that
completed successfully with one or more skipped
files. Also if you use the processing option
preschedulecmd to run a command, and that command
returns a non-zero return code, the scheduled
event will not run. This ensures that scheduled
events will not run if prerequisite commands do
not complete successfully. See Return Codes from
the Command Line Interface,
Preschedulecmd/Prenschedulecmd, and
Postschedulecmd/Postnschedulecmd for more
information.
==

Alternatively, if the command does not need to complete prior to running
the scheduled operation, you can use PRENSCHEDULECMD, which runs
asynchronously, and whose return code is not tracked.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.



Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck

Yes, you've discovered a new feature. If you are using PRESCHEDULECMD,
then presumably you have some operation that you wish to complete prior to
the scheduled TSM operation (i.e. shut down a database before incremental
backup runs). In 5.1, we changed PRESCHEDULECMD so that if the command
does end with return code 0, then the scheduled operation will not run.
This change was based on user requirements.

>From the use rmanual, in the section on what's new in 5.1:

==
Reliable, consistent, and documented return codes
have been added to the command line client and the
scheduler. This facilitates automation of client
operations via user-written scripts. By using the
QUERY EVENT command with the FORMAT=DETAILED
option, administrators can now distinguish between
scheduled backups that completed successfully with
no skipped files and scheduled backups that
completed successfully with one or more skipped
files. Also if you use the processing option
preschedulecmd to run a command, and that command
returns a non-zero return code, the scheduled
event will not run. This ensures that scheduled
events will not run if prerequisite commands do
not complete successfully. See Return Codes from
the Command Line Interface,
Preschedulecmd/Prenschedulecmd, and
Postschedulecmd/Postnschedulecmd for more
information.
==

Alternatively, if the command does not need to complete prior to running
the scheduled operation, you can use PRENSCHEDULECMD, which runs
asynchronously, and whose return code is not tracked.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Right off the bat on the 5.1 client on WinXP -
preschedulecommand scripts actually return an error level (I'm seeing
RC=12)
that will halt the schedule where they did not with version 4.




-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid
installation
package...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State Universit

Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Jolliff, Dale

Right off the bat on the 5.1 client on WinXP -
preschedulecommand scripts actually return an error level (I'm seeing RC=12)
that will halt the schedule where they did not with version 4.




-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid installation
package...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802


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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck

H... not a good sign.

I downloaded the driver this morning and verified the install myself, and
it went alright.

Do you have an existing ODBC driver installed? If so, which version?

I suspect that this could be an issue with removing the older ODBC driver.
Try this:

1) From Add/Remove Programs, remove the old ODBC driver.

2) You may get a prompt similar to the above. If so, go get the install
package for that driver, and extract the install image (but don't run
setup). Then try the uninstall again. If prompted, point to the .msi file
in the old driver's install image (the one you just unpacked).

3) If that works, then try installing the new driver.

Let me know how this goes.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
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"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid
installation
package...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/12/2002 02:42
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Subject:Re: TSM V5.1



The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802


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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Andy!
The 5.1.01 ODBC driver installation does not work. During installation one
is prompted for the location of the file Tivoli Storage Manager ODBC
Driver.msi. If you point to that file (by default:
C:\TEMP\tsmcli\win32\odbc\disk1) it says that it's not a valid installation
package...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
04/12/2002 02:42
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: TSM V5.1



The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck

Yes, and be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 Windows clients from the FTP site, vs.
the 5.1.0.0 clients shipped on the CD. As someone pointed out yesterday,
we now have a 4.2.1.32 client to address APAR IC33211 (The TSM V4.2
Windows NT-based client acceptor service may crash if improperly formatted
data is received from the HTTP port), and this APAR is fixed in 5.1.0.1 as
well.

For ODBC driver users, be sure to get the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver as well.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
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"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
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KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802


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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-12 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

The 5.1 clients are also available for download now.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802


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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-11 Thread Kelly J. Lipp

Yes!

Our first Guinea pig.  Good luck Kimo Sabe (sp).  Let us know how it works
out.

Now, if you decide you're not man enough, send the kit to me.  I'll put in
on a lab server and see what happens!

I'm fearless on hardware that doesn't matter.  And even on some that does
(as long as it isn't mine).

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
David Longo
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


You going to have it up and running by Monday?  Make a document
for us on what works and doesn't, conversion issues etc?

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/11/02 01:54PM >>>
Hey everyone,

I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154



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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-11 Thread Don France (TSMnews)

Try running your SELECT queries;  last I heard, there were various problems
with Summary table ---
which is a key helper to sizing a current environment. There may be problems
with other tables as well.

Hope to hear more info on what works (eg, Win2000 online-image backups), and
what doesn't.

Regards,

 Don France
Technical Architect - Tivoli Certified Consultant

Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E.)
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: TSM V5.1


You going to have it up and running by Monday?  Make a document
for us on what works and doesn't, conversion issues etc?

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/11/02 01:54PM >>>
Hey everyone,

I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154



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Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-11 Thread Jonathan Siegle

Got mine on Monday. I really liked the TSM 5.1 cd with 4.2 functional
level software...

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?
>
> Geoff Gill
> TSM Administrator
> NT Systems Support Engineer
> SAIC
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Phone:  (858) 826-4062
> Pager:   (877) 905-7154
>

Jonathan Siegle Center for Academic Computing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penn State University
814-865-5840University Park, Pa 16802



Re: TSM V5.1

2002-04-11 Thread David Longo

You going to have it up and running by Monday?  Make a document
for us on what works and doesn't, conversion issues etc?

David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/11/02 01:54PM >>>
Hey everyone,

I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154



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TSM V5.1

2002-04-11 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.

Hey everyone,

I just got my TSM V5.1 package of software. Anyone else get so lucky?

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154