Re: AW: What is size of ADSM database and log?

2001-04-09 Thread Andy Raibeck

There is a redbook that discusses TSM implementation issues, "Getting
Started with Tivoli Storage Manager: Implementation Guide". The publication
number is SG24-5416-01. This book includes information on sizing your TSM
database.

You can find the book in HTML or PDF format at www.redbooks.ibm.com. Once
you get there, just put "SG24-5416-01" (without the quotes) in the
"Redbooks Search" box, and click "Go". It should locate the book for you.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Tivoli Systems
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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"The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked."


Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-PROD-ZH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU>
on 04/09/2001 10:58:04 AM

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Hi Zosi
It's quiet simple(or not?).
Each File 1K in the DB (don't forget how many generations!).
The Log about 10% of the DB Size, i drive a larger recovery log, near 30%,
performance & overflow!

Example:

100 Files=100K
10% of the Files change 10K
5 Generation in the mngmntclss40K
+ 10-30% etc

In your Case with the archive to, it will be a nice DB!

Ciao

with  kind regards

Joachim

Post Scriptum: You never can realy count how many of the files will be
changed!
The Unix files may take a lot of Log in the archive mode!


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Von: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IS&T) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Montag, 9. April 2001 08:15
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Hi All,

What is the size of the ADSM database and log to be required if you have
100
clients (75 NT and 25 Unix) with estimated disk space 3 TB.
Estimated 70 percent of that size is being backup and 40 percent of that
size is being archive.
For backup:  5 version plus 1 full backup of active files and 1 version of
the deleted files (expiration period 60 days).  The estimated changes per
day is 8 percent.
For archive:  4 version of weekly archive with retention period 1 month, 1
monthly archive with retention perion 1 year.
For hsm:  one unix machine with 150 GB.

Anybody can provide me an estimate size of the db and log.

regards,
Zosi Noriega
Analyst, Data Management
ADNOC (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company)
P.O. Box 898  Abu Dhabi UAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: What is size of ADSM database and log?

2001-04-09 Thread Lindsay Morris

The formula, while correct, isn't very useful because nobody really knows
(until they HAVE TSM!) what percent of files get changed.  (Or what
retention policies they'll be using...)

I have a similar client whose database is about 10GB.

You can just format space for a smaller one (say 2 GB), then add to it as it
grows, rather than taking days to analyze what your needs will be.

Good luck.

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Subject: AW: What is size of ADSM database and log?


Hi Zosi
It's quiet simple(or not?).
Each File 1K in the DB (don't forget how many generations!).
The Log about 10% of the DB Size, i drive a larger recovery log, near 30%,
performance & overflow!

Example:

100 Files=100K
10% of the Files change 10K
5 Generation in the mngmntclss40K
+ 10-30% etc

In your Case with the archive to, it will be a nice DB!

Ciao

with  kind regards

Joachim

Post Scriptum: You never can realy count how many of the files will be
changed!
The Unix files may take a lot of Log in the archive mode!


-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
Von: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IS&T) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Montag, 9. April 2001 08:15
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Betreff: What is size of ADSM database and log?

Hi All,

What is the size of the ADSM database and log to be required if you have 100
clients (75 NT and 25 Unix) with estimated disk space 3 TB.
Estimated 70 percent of that size is being backup and 40 percent of that
size is being archive.
For backup:  5 version plus 1 full backup of active files and 1 version of
the deleted files (expiration period 60 days).  The estimated changes per
day is 8 percent.
For archive:  4 version of weekly archive with retention period 1 month, 1
monthly archive with retention perion 1 year.
For hsm:  one unix machine with 150 GB.

Anybody can provide me an estimate size of the db and log.

regards,
Zosi Noriega
Analyst, Data Management
ADNOC (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company)
P.O. Box 898  Abu Dhabi UAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



AW: What is size of ADSM database and log?

2001-04-09 Thread Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-PROD-ZH

Hi Zosi
It's quiet simple(or not?).
Each File 1K in the DB (don't forget how many generations!).
The Log about 10% of the DB Size, i drive a larger recovery log, near 30%,
performance & overflow!

Example:

100 Files=100K
10% of the Files change 10K
5 Generation in the mngmntclss40K
+ 10-30% etc

In your Case with the archive to, it will be a nice DB!

Ciao

with  kind regards

Joachim

Post Scriptum: You never can realy count how many of the files will be
changed!
The Unix files may take a lot of Log in the archive mode!


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IS&T) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Montag, 9. April 2001 08:15
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: What is size of ADSM database and log?

Hi All,

What is the size of the ADSM database and log to be required if you have 100
clients (75 NT and 25 Unix) with estimated disk space 3 TB.
Estimated 70 percent of that size is being backup and 40 percent of that
size is being archive.
For backup:  5 version plus 1 full backup of active files and 1 version of
the deleted files (expiration period 60 days).  The estimated changes per
day is 8 percent.
For archive:  4 version of weekly archive with retention period 1 month, 1
monthly archive with retention perion 1 year.
For hsm:  one unix machine with 150 GB.

Anybody can provide me an estimate size of the db and log.

regards,
Zosi Noriega
Analyst, Data Management
ADNOC (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company)
P.O. Box 898  Abu Dhabi UAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



AW: What is size of ADSM database and log?

2001-04-09 Thread Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-PROD-ZH

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IS&T) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Montag, 9. April 2001 08:15
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Betreff: What is size of ADSM database and log?

Hi All,

What is the size of the ADSM database and log to be required if you have 100
clients (75 NT and 25 Unix) with estimated disk space 3 TB.
Estimated 70 percent of that size is being backup and 40 percent of that
size is being archive.
For backup:  5 version plus 1 full backup of active files and 1 version of
the deleted files (expiration period 60 days).  The estimated changes per
day is 8 percent.
For archive:  4 version of weekly archive with retention period 1 month, 1
monthly archive with retention perion 1 year.
For hsm:  one unix machine with 150 GB.

Anybody can provide me an estimate size of the db and log.

regards,
Zosi Noriega
Analyst, Data Management
ADNOC (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company)
P.O. Box 898  Abu Dhabi UAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



What is size of ADSM database and log?

2001-04-09 Thread

Hi All,

What is the size of the ADSM database and log to be required if you have 100
clients (75 NT and 25 Unix) with estimated disk space 3 TB.
Estimated 70 percent of that size is being backup and 40 percent of that
size is being archive.
For backup:  5 version plus 1 full backup of active files and 1 version of
the deleted files (expiration period 60 days).  The estimated changes per
day is 8 percent.
For archive:  4 version of weekly archive with retention period 1 month, 1
monthly archive with retention perion 1 year.
For hsm:  one unix machine with 150 GB.

Anybody can provide me an estimate size of the db and log.

regards,
Zosi Noriega
Analyst, Data Management
ADNOC (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company)
P.O. Box 898  Abu Dhabi UAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]