Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-24 Thread Ray Schafer

Walker, Thomas wrote:

 Also in the FAQ, I noticed that is does not *yet* support restoring to
 dissimiliar hardware. Considering that a true Disaster Recovery will
 probably take place in slightly different systems, I find it a little odd
 the BMR still doesn't support that yet. The hardest thing to do is restore
 NT machines because it's impossible to get an exact copy of the hardware at
 the DR site. So restoring the registry is useless. BMR looks promising, but
 only for NT. Mksysb's are still very useful and less of a hassle than
 setting up a BMR boot server.

Our FAQ needs to be updated. The first phase of dissmililar machine restore is done.  
Release 3.1 is out and will support restore to dissimilar disks.  This is phase one.  
More to come.

I would like to point out that TKG's BMR is the only product that can do this on AIX, 
Solaris, HP-UX, and NT.

I have set up many BMR Boot Servers.  In my opinion, it is just as easy as doing a 
mksysb, but it is a one time effort.  Mksysb's have to be done over and over again.




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Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-24 Thread Ray Schafer



Stephen A. Cochran wrote:

 Someone pointed TKG's product out a few months ago to me, and I looked at their
 site. If you read the FAQ carefully, you'll see that you will need one server
 for every type of system you need to restore. So if want BMR capability for both
 Solaris, AIX, and NT, then you'll need a Solaris, AIX, and NT server for their
 product to work. Each of those servers will need to run the BMR File Server and
 BMR Netboot Server.From the sound of it, I worry that if you had some servers
 running Solaris 6 and some Solaris 7, that you might need a different File/Boot
 server for each of those.

The BMR File and Boot Servers do not have to be dedicated servers.  They can be
doing work while they are sitting there waiting to serve up boot images or satisfy
NFS requests.

A lot can change in a few months.  Now, with the 3.1 release,  BMR allows you to
create CD's that can be used in place of File Servers and Boot Servers.  This also
allows you to circumvent the use of bootp, bootparams, tftp, and NFS during a TKG
Bare Metal Restore if you desire.


 After taking over the TSM admin for our site, I've been looking in to BMR
 options. The best I've come up with so far is the following:

 I bought some big bit buckets for inside the TSM (RS6000 h50 AIX) server.
 Nothing too fast, just decent. For my AIX servers, I'm running makesysb and
 dumping the data onto a NFS share.

If you are using TSM, wouldn't it be nice to just back everything up to TSM and then
use the data in TSM to restore the machine? BMR allows you to do that.   The
mksysb's back up data that is also being backed up (more efficiently) by TSM.



 For Solaris and Linux, I'm using the
 hostdump.sh script from backupcentral.com (run by the Orielly backup book
 author) to dump to the NFS share. I manually dump the OS only after the change
 log is modified (we keep a change log on the boot system so that any admin that
 makes a change logs it in case there are problems). This way it's fairly
 automated. I also run it manually before/after patching or upgrading. I also run
 SysAudit and Sysinfo every night and dump those locally and to the same NFS
 share, so I have up to date info on the system in case I loose the disk
 configurations.

TKG's BMR will capture the machine configuration using a fully automated process.


 To restore, I use the install CD to boot, get the networking up and running,
 mount the NFS share, and restore.

 I'm still rolling this out, but so far it's worked well. I restored a solaris 7
 server as a test, and it was flawless.

If you use Veritas Volume Manager on Solaris, how would you restore the machine with
this methodology?  It is a very manual process, but BMR handles it with no extra
steps or reboots.



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Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin

Ray,

Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
server is an NT server ?

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
 independent
 software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In this
 particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
 IBM/Tivoli to
 extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
 recovery
 that we provide.
 
 Palmadesso Jack wrote:
 
  You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.  We
 are
  planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
 recovery
  that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
 
  Jack
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
 
  I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
 recovery
  for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
 information.
 
  thanks a lot.
  Zosi Noriega
  ADNOC P.O. Box 898
  AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Palmadesso Jack

The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR server
itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what the
TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm

This looks promising!

-Original Message-
From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...


Ray,

Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
server is an NT server ?

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
 independent
 software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In this
 particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
 IBM/Tivoli to
 extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
 recovery
 that we provide.
 
 Palmadesso Jack wrote:
 
  You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.  We
 are
  planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
 recovery
  that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
 
  Jack
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
 
  I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
 recovery
  for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
 information.
 
  thanks a lot.
  Zosi Noriega
  ADNOC P.O. Box 898
  AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Caffey, Jeff L.

I haven't actually purchased the product yet, but I've been looking at it.
I've been told that BMR can run on the same server as TSM, as long as it's a
Unix server.  Good Luck!

Thank you,

Jeff Caffey
Enterprise Systems Programmer
(AIX  Storage Administrator)
Pier 1 imports, Inc.  -  Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (817) 252-6222
Fax:   (817) 252-7299

 -Original Message-
From:   Palmadesso Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: bare metal restore for NT...

The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR server
itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what the
TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm

This looks promising!

-Original Message-
From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...


Ray,

Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
server is an NT server ?

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
 independent
 software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In this
 particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
 IBM/Tivoli to
 extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
 recovery
 that we provide.
 
 Palmadesso Jack wrote:
 
  You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.  We
 are
  planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
 recovery
  that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
 
  Jack
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
 
  I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
 recovery
  for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
 information.
 
  thanks a lot.
  Zosi Noriega
  ADNOC P.O. Box 898
  AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin

Yes, so I understood, but with the amount of money we have already invested
in the system, and with the fact that our dealers and integrators forgot to
explain this issue untill yesterday (3 months after the initiall
installation etc), I cannot now go and explain that I need a second server
for BMR, as much as I would like to.

So I am stuck.

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Palmadesso Jack [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:54
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR server
 itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what the
 TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
 http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm
 
 This looks promising!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 
 Ray,
 
 Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
 server is an NT server ?
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
  
  Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
  independent
  software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In
 this
  particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
  IBM/Tivoli to
  extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
  recovery
  that we provide.
  
  Palmadesso Jack wrote:
  
   You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.
 We
  are
   planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
  recovery
   that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
  
   Jack
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
  
   I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
  recovery
   for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
  information.
  
   thanks a lot.
   Zosi Noriega
   ADNOC P.O. Box 898
   AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Palmadesso Jack

If you are speaking about budgets then I hear you.  Then again I am
wondering what the minimum requirements are.  Sun makes these new machines
called Blades.  Some are as cheap as 1300usd and perform similar an Ultra60.
We are trying a few of them out now.  That wouldn't be such a large
investment.  Otherwise there is always next years budget.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...


Yes, so I understood, but with the amount of money we have already invested
in the system, and with the fact that our dealers and integrators forgot to
explain this issue untill yesterday (3 months after the initiall
installation etc), I cannot now go and explain that I need a second server
for BMR, as much as I would like to.

So I am stuck.

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Palmadesso Jack [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:54
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR server
 itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what the
 TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
 http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm
 
 This looks promising!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 
 Ray,
 
 Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
 server is an NT server ?
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
  
  Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
  independent
  software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In
 this
  particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
  IBM/Tivoli to
  extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
  recovery
  that we provide.
  
  Palmadesso Jack wrote:
  
   You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.
 We
  are
   planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
  recovery
   that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
  
   Jack
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
  
   I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
  recovery
   for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
  information.
  
   thanks a lot.
   Zosi Noriega
   ADNOC P.O. Box 898
   AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Stephen A. Cochran

Someone pointed TKG's product out a few months ago to me, and I looked at their
site. If you read the FAQ carefully, you'll see that you will need one server
for every type of system you need to restore. So if want BMR capability for both
Solaris, AIX, and NT, then you'll need a Solaris, AIX, and NT server for their
product to work. Each of those servers will need to run the BMR File Server and
BMR Netboot Server.From the sound of it, I worry that if you had some servers
running Solaris 6 and some Solaris 7, that you might need a different File/Boot
server for each of those.

After taking over the TSM admin for our site, I've been looking in to BMR
options. The best I've come up with so far is the following:

I bought some big bit buckets for inside the TSM (RS6000 h50 AIX) server.
Nothing too fast, just decent. For my AIX servers, I'm running makesysb and
dumping the data onto a NFS share. For Solaris and Linux, I'm using the
hostdump.sh script from backupcentral.com (run by the Orielly backup book
author) to dump to the NFS share. I manually dump the OS only after the change
log is modified (we keep a change log on the boot system so that any admin that
makes a change logs it in case there are problems). This way it's fairly
automated. I also run it manually before/after patching or upgrading. I also run
SysAudit and Sysinfo every night and dump those locally and to the same NFS
share, so I have up to date info on the system in case I loose the disk
configurations.

To restore, I use the install CD to boot, get the networking up and running,
mount the NFS share, and restore.

I'm still rolling this out, but so far it's worked well. I restored a solaris 7
server as a test, and it was flawless.

Advantages:
- no need for tape drives on every machine
- system backups are always available on disk
- system backups are also backed up from the TSM server disks in case that
server crashs
- No need to reinstall OS/patches/TSM client to restore data
- very helpful if you are trying to standarize your OS configs
- can be used as an 'image' to upgrade/standardize multiple systems

Disadvantages
- using NFS, but wrapped it so it's only available from server subnet
- lots of duplicated system data (working on this)
- more manual steps, but once documented, not hard


Steve Cochran
Dartmouth College



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Walker, Thomas

Also in the FAQ, I noticed that is does not *yet* support restoring to
dissimiliar hardware. Considering that a true Disaster Recovery will
probably take place in slightly different systems, I find it a little odd
the BMR still doesn't support that yet. The hardest thing to do is restore
NT machines because it's impossible to get an exact copy of the hardware at
the DR site. So restoring the registry is useless. BMR looks promising, but
only for NT. Mksysb's are still very useful and less of a hassle than
setting up a BMR boot server.

-
Tom Walker
Tech Support Analyst



 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen A. Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:02 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...


 Someone pointed TKG's product out a few months ago to me, and
 I looked at their
 site. If you read the FAQ carefully, you'll see that you will
 need one server
 for every type of system you need to restore. So if want BMR
 capability for both
 Solaris, AIX, and NT, then you'll need a Solaris, AIX, and NT
 server for their
 product to work.

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Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin

How can I put this.

The total package cost us in excess of 60Kusd. Even an extra 10usd over that
will make eyebrows rise.

I am quite aware that there are cheap machines, and I'v actually considered
that option, but I am still left in a situation where I have to explain why
it is that I didn't know about this earlier. I'll live through it, but it
has put a major dent in the relationship that we have with IBM, and we are
IBM customers for nearly 10 years almost exclusivly (servers, support etc).

Such is life.

Now where did I put those old dat tapes and the BE software...

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Palmadesso Jack [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: â îàé 22 2001 16:26
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 If you are speaking about budgets then I hear you.  Then again I am
 wondering what the minimum requirements are.  Sun makes these new machines
 called Blades.  Some are as cheap as 1300usd and perform similar an
 Ultra60.
 We are trying a few of them out now.  That wouldn't be such a large
 investment.  Otherwise there is always next years budget.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:18 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 
 Yes, so I understood, but with the amount of money we have already
 invested
 in the system, and with the fact that our dealers and integrators forgot
 to
 explain this issue untill yesterday (3 months after the initiall
 installation etc), I cannot now go and explain that I need a second server
 for BMR, as much as I would like to.
 
 So I am stuck.
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Palmadesso Jack [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:54
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
  
  The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR
 server
  itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what
 the
  TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
  http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm
  
  This looks promising!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...
  
  
  Ray,
  
  Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
  server is an NT server ?
  
  Mike
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:13
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
   
   Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
   independent
   software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In
  this
   particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
   IBM/Tivoli to
   extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
   recovery
   that we provide.
   
   Palmadesso Jack wrote:
   
You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.
  We
   are
planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
   recovery
that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of
 IBM.
   
Jack
   
-Original Message-
From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
   
I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
   recovery
for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
   information.
   
thanks a lot.
Zosi Noriega
ADNOC P.O. Box 898
AUH - AUE  File: Card for Ray Schafer  



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-22 Thread Ray Schafer

The BMR Server should work just fine on the Sun Blade.

Palmadesso Jack wrote:

 If you are speaking about budgets then I hear you.  Then again I am
 wondering what the minimum requirements are.  Sun makes these new machines
 called Blades.  Some are as cheap as 1300usd and perform similar an Ultra60.
 We are trying a few of them out now.  That wouldn't be such a large
 investment.  Otherwise there is always next years budget.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:18 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...

 Yes, so I understood, but with the amount of money we have already invested
 in the system, and with the fact that our dealers and integrators forgot to
 explain this issue untill yesterday (3 months after the initiall
 installation etc), I cannot now go and explain that I need a second server
 for BMR, as much as I would like to.

 So I am stuck.

 Mike

  -Original Message-
  From: Palmadesso Jack [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: b n`i 22 2001 15:54
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
  The wording is a bit hard to understand but I believe that the BMR server
  itself is a separate server and requires Unix.  BMR does not care what the
  TSM server is itself.  Check the FAQ out on their site.
  http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm
 
  This looks promising!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: bare metal restore for NT...
 
 
  Ray,
 
  Do you have some idea when you will have BRM that will work when the TSM
  server is an NT server ?
 
  Mike
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: b n`i 22 2001 15:13
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  Re: bare metal restore for NT...
  
   Thank you, Jack.   While we do offer BMR,  The Kernel Group is an
   independent
   software vendor that has numerous relationships with IBM/Tivoli.  In
  this
   particular case, our Bare Metal Restore product is re-marketed by
   IBM/Tivoli to
   extend the recovery capabilities TSM currently has with the system
   recovery
   that we provide.
  
   Palmadesso Jack wrote:
  
You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.
  We
   are
planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button
   recovery
that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.
   
Jack
   
-Original Message-
From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bare metal restore for NT...
   
I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster
   recovery
for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough
   information.
   
thanks a lot.
Zosi Noriega
ADNOC P.O. Box 898
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bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-21 Thread Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST)

I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster recovery
for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough information.

thanks a lot.
Zosi Noriega
ADNOC P.O. Box 898
AUH - AUE



Re: bare metal restore for NT...

2001-05-21 Thread Palmadesso Jack

You may want to look at the Kernel Groups Bare Metal Recovery tool.  We are
planning on bringing them in here.   Supposedly its a one button recovery
that interacts with TSM.  By the way the Kernel Group is part of IBM.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Zosimo Noriega (ADNOC IST) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bare metal restore for NT...


I'm looking a tool or agent that i can use for complete disaster recovery
for NT.  I heard this tool, can you please provide me enough information.

thanks a lot.
Zosi Noriega
ADNOC P.O. Box 898
AUH - AUE



Re: Bare Metal Restore for NT

2000-10-27 Thread Richard Smith

John,

I have currently been working on a system level recovery procedure.  I now
have tested procedures for restoring to the same hardware and changing the
system disk controller.  Here is what I am doing:

1. Backup entire system including registry and event logs.
2. Load base NT + IP to any directory other than WINNT.
3. Install the TSM client.
4. Restore the entire C:\ drive
5. Copy the following files to C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\Config:
   C:\ADSM.SYS\REGISTRY\%MACHINENAME%\MACHINE\*.*
   C:\ADSM.SYS\REGISTRY\%MACHINENAME%\USERS\DEFAULT
   C:\ADSM.SYS\EVENTLOG\*.*
6. Reboot server and verify that NT is running properly.  Make sure to check
out Disk Administrator.  A lot of times NT will switch the letters on the D:
and E: drives.
7. Restore all other applications and data.
8. Reboot again, and server should be running as normal.
9. Clean up temp installation

Rick Smith
State Farm Insurance
Storage Management
(309) 735-3086


-Original Message-
From: John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bare Metal Restore for NT


We currently have an open PMR for trying to restore a registry on a
NT system.  It appears to me that there is a overall problem restoring NT
registry with TSM.  We are about to try out Bare Metal Restore from The
Kernel Group.  This product appears to works with TSM on restoring a entire
NT system including the registry.  Does anybody else use this product or one
similar or have you been able to restore a registry on a NT system?  When we
restored the registry we did the following:

1.  Reload NT  TAM
2.  Restore the system with TAM
3.  Restore the registry
4.  Reboot
5.  Errors occur on the reboot

John R. O'Connell
Phone:408-492-2042
Pager:408-949-1432
John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Bare Metal Restore for NT

2000-10-27 Thread O'Connell, John R

Thanks for the replies.  All of them have helped.

John R. O'Connell
Phone:408-492-2042
Pager:408-949-1432
John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 6:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore for NT


John,

I have currently been working on a system level recovery procedure.  I now
have tested procedures for restoring to the same hardware and changing the
system disk controller.  Here is what I am doing:

1. Backup entire system including registry and event logs.
2. Load base NT + IP to any directory other than WINNT.
3. Install the TSM client.
4. Restore the entire C:\ drive
5. Copy the following files to C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\Config:
   C:\ADSM.SYS\REGISTRY\%MACHINENAME%\MACHINE\*.*
   C:\ADSM.SYS\REGISTRY\%MACHINENAME%\USERS\DEFAULT
   C:\ADSM.SYS\EVENTLOG\*.*
6. Reboot server and verify that NT is running properly.  Make sure to check
out Disk Administrator.  A lot of times NT will switch the letters on the D:
and E: drives.
7. Restore all other applications and data.
8. Reboot again, and server should be running as normal.
9. Clean up temp installation

Rick Smith
State Farm Insurance
Storage Management
(309) 735-3086


-Original Message-
From: John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bare Metal Restore for NT


We currently have an open PMR for trying to restore a registry on a
NT system.  It appears to me that there is a overall problem restoring NT
registry with TSM.  We are about to try out Bare Metal Restore from The
Kernel Group.  This product appears to works with TSM on restoring a entire
NT system including the registry.  Does anybody else use this product or one
similar or have you been able to restore a registry on a NT system?  When we
restored the registry we did the following:

1.  Reload NT  TAM
2.  Restore the system with TAM
3.  Restore the registry
4.  Reboot
5.  Errors occur on the reboot

John R. O'Connell
Phone:408-492-2042
Pager:408-949-1432
John.R.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Bare Metal Restore for NT

2000-10-26 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM

You can't overwrite an active registry.  Two options:

1.  Step 1 should be to install NT and TSM to non-standard directories.
That way you can restore the registry.

2.  Restore the c:\adsm.sys directory tree, then boot with an NTFS aware
diskette, and copy the directory files back to c:\winnt\system32\config.

I'd advise reading the redbook on NT Bare Metal Restores (I can't find the
number, but you can search for it on the www.redbooks.ibm.com website), as
there's more to restoring an entire NT system than meets the eye.

Nick Cassimatis
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