Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Consiglio, Tony

E.J,
Burak had it correct. Your right in saying that the program logic reads from
the bottom to the top but physically it needs to be the way he wrote it. I
would not suggest doing this because your not defining what you need to
define "first".

The flow should go like this:
1.) Define drive (domain which is actually there term for partition or
actual drive)
2.) Then exclude everything
3.) Then include only what you need.

Burak!? check your switches to make sure your using the correct commands for
the OS your setting it up for. Also Keep in mind that TSM can also backup
the "SYSTEM STATE". Do a search on Tivoli for what the "system state backup"
includes. You may find that all you need to do is an Archive of the system
state. the NT*.DIT file. Which, by the way, will report as if it did not
back it up, but remember as you back the data up it keeps a copy of it in
the archive folder. When the restore is done, just do a search on the local
machine for that *.dit file you should find it in two places, one in the
Winnt and one in a backed up copy of the system state. You will see what I
mean your you do it.
Hope this helps

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Hi Burak!
Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom
up, so change it into:

Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Exclude *\...\*
Domain c: d:

Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 


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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread ARhoads

Burak,

then you'll have to code at least:

exclude.dir c:\
exclude.dir d:\

If you try that, again pls. advise.

Steffan
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Hi,
Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and
consuming database. I mean:
Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure
(names of folders) are sent
to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the
files
but it consumes
TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders.


Regards,
Burak




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Burak,

I'd try:

Domain c:
Exclude *\...\*

Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and
presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:.

Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the
directory structures from backup.

Please advise if this solves the problem.

Steffan

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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT


Hi,
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c:
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not
files)
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else?
Regards,
Burak

Domain c: d:
Exclude *\...\*
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
=

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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Burak Demircan

This solves my most of the problems but what happens if a temp folder 
is created starting with a latter of "a"? This is not a big problem 
but I think IBM should do to solve it. You can not directly give an option 
to backup only one individual folder and no folder or file. 



PS: Following options backs-up c:\adsm.sys folder and subfolders. 
It does not event process any folders other than starting with letter "a" 


Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
exclude.dir c:\[b-Z]* 
exclude.dir c:\[0-9]* 
Domain c: 





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Burak, 

Use the exclude.dir or exclude.backup option to help alleviate this. 


Regards, 

Matt Adams
Tivoli Storage Manager Team
Hermitage Site Tech
Deloitte & Touche USA LLP 
615.882.6861 


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Hi, 
Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and 
consuming database. I mean: 
Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure 

(names of folders) are sent 
to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the
files 
but it consumes 
TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. 


Regards, 
Burak 




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Burak, 

I'd try: 

Domain c:
Exclude *\...\* 

Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and
presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. 

Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the
directory structures from backup. 

Please advise if this solves the problem. 

Steffan 

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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT 


Hi,
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c:
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not
files)
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else?
Regards,
Burak 

Domain c: d:
Exclude *\...\*
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Andrew Raibeck

Here is a possibility:

Create a TSM client macro (plain text file) named, say, C:\BACKUP.MAC. The 
contents of this file would be:

   BACKUP REGISTRY
   INCREMENTAL D: E:

(The second line is an example of how you would back up other drives, 
although you could omit them if all you want is the registry.)

Next, create a schedule like this:

   DEF SCH STANDARD BACKREG ACTION=MACRO OBJECTS="C:\BACKUP.MAC"
   DEF ASSOC STANDARD BACKREG BURAK

This is just an example, substitute your own domain, schedule, file, and 
node names as appropriate.

If you don't want to use the TSM scheduler, you can launch the macro 
manually or via 3rd-party scheduler like this:

   DSMC MACRO C:\BACKUP.MAC

Regards,

Andy

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IBM Software Group
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Hi, 
Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure 
and 
consuming database. I mean: 
Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system 
structure 
(names of folders) are sent 
to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the 
files 
but it consumes 
TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. 


Regards, 
Burak 




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Burak, 

I'd try: 

Domain c:
Exclude *\...\* 

Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and
presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. 

Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the
directory structures from backup. 

Please advise if this solves the problem. 

Steffan 

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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT 


Hi,
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c:
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not
files)
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else?
Regards,
Burak 

Domain c: d:
Exclude *\...\*
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
= 



Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Burak Demircan

Hi, 
Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and 
consuming database. I mean: 
Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure 
(names of folders) are sent 
to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the files 
but it consumes 
TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. 


Regards, 
Burak 




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Burak, 

I'd try: 

Domain c:
Exclude *\...\* 

Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and
presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. 

Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the
directory structures from backup. 

Please advise if this solves the problem. 

Steffan 

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT 


Hi,
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c:
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not
files)
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else?
Regards,
Burak 

Domain c: d:
Exclude *\...\*
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
= 




Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Remeta, Mark

Eric, wouldn't you want the exclude statement last? It stops processing the
list when it makes a match. If the exclude statement was first and it was a
wild card like that, it would not process anything. Am I missing something?

Mark


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Hi Burak!
Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom
up, so change it into:

Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Exclude *\...\*
Domain c: d:

Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT


Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 


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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread ARhoads

Burak,

I'd try:

Domain c:
Exclude *\...\*

Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and
presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:.

Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the
directory structures from backup.

Please advise if this solves the problem.

Steffan

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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT


Hi,
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c:
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not
files)
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else?
Regards,
Burak

Domain c: d:
Exclude *\...\*
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Burak!
Try changing Exclude *\...\* into Exclude Exclude ?:\...\* or maybe even
better c:\...\*
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

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Bu this does not prevent tsm client to process all directories in drive C:? 
What can be the solution? 
Regards, 
Burak 



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Hi Burak!
Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom
up, so change it into: 

Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Exclude *\...\*
Domain c: d: 

Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines 


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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT 


Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 


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Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Burak Demircan

Bu this does not prevent tsm client to process all directories in drive C:? 
What can be the solution? 
Regards, 
Burak 



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Hi Burak!
Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom
up, so change it into: 

Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Exclude *\...\*
Domain c: d: 

Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines 


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Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 


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include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Burak Demircan

Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 



Re: include/exclude for Windows NT

2002-03-01 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Burak!
Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom
up, so change it into:

Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Exclude *\...\*
Domain c: d:

Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08
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Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT


Hi, 
I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in  drive c: 
I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure
(not 
files) 
How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? 
Regards, 
Burak 

Domain c: d: 
Exclude *\...\* 
Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS 
Include d:\...\* NTCLASS 


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