Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
E.J, Burak had it correct. Your right in saying that the program logic reads from the bottom to the top but physically it needs to be the way he wrote it. I would not suggest doing this because your not defining what you need to define "first". The flow should go like this: 1.) Define drive (domain which is actually there term for partition or actual drive) 2.) Then exclude everything 3.) Then include only what you need. Burak!? check your switches to make sure your using the correct commands for the OS your setting it up for. Also Keep in mind that TSM can also backup the "SYSTEM STATE". Do a search on Tivoli for what the "system state backup" includes. You may find that all you need to do is an Archive of the system state. the NT*.DIT file. Which, by the way, will report as if it did not back it up, but remember as you back the data up it keeps a copy of it in the archive folder. When the restore is done, just do a search on the local machine for that *.dit file you should find it in two places, one in the Winnt and one in a backed up copy of the system state. You will see what I mean your you do it. Hope this helps -Original Message- From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi Burak! Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom up, so change it into: Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS Exclude *\...\* Domain c: d: Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Burak, then you'll have to code at least: exclude.dir c:\ exclude.dir d:\ If you try that, again pls. advise. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:59 AM Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and consuming database. I mean: Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure (names of folders) are sent to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the files but it consumes TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 15:48 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Burak, I'd try: Domain c: Exclude *\...\* Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the directory structures from backup. Please advise if this solves the problem. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS = =
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
This solves my most of the problems but what happens if a temp folder is created starting with a latter of "a"? This is not a big problem but I think IBM should do to solve it. You can not directly give an option to backup only one individual folder and no folder or file. PS: Following options backs-up c:\adsm.sys folder and subfolders. It does not event process any folders other than starting with letter "a" Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS exclude.dir c:\[b-Z]* exclude.dir c:\[0-9]* Domain c: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 16:33 Please respond to maadams To: Burak Demircan/152/DCAG/DCX@wK-COOP cc: Subject: RE: include/exclude for Windows NT Burak, Use the exclude.dir or exclude.backup option to help alleviate this. Regards, Matt Adams Tivoli Storage Manager Team Hermitage Site Tech Deloitte & Touche USA LLP 615.882.6861 -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and consuming database. I mean: Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure (names of folders) are sent to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the files but it consumes TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 15:48 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Burak, I'd try: Domain c: Exclude *\...\* Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the directory structures from backup. Please advise if this solves the problem. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS = - This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. - If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Here is a possibility: Create a TSM client macro (plain text file) named, say, C:\BACKUP.MAC. The contents of this file would be: BACKUP REGISTRY INCREMENTAL D: E: (The second line is an example of how you would back up other drives, although you could omit them if all you want is the registry.) Next, create a schedule like this: DEF SCH STANDARD BACKREG ACTION=MACRO OBJECTS="C:\BACKUP.MAC" DEF ASSOC STANDARD BACKREG BURAK This is just an example, substitute your own domain, schedule, file, and node names as appropriate. If you don't want to use the TSM scheduler, you can launch the macro manually or via 3rd-party scheduler like this: DSMC MACRO C:\BACKUP.MAC Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. Burak Demircan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/01/2002 06:59 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and consuming database. I mean: Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure (names of folders) are sent to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the files but it consumes TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 15:48 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Burak, I'd try: Domain c: Exclude *\...\* Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the directory structures from backup. Please advise if this solves the problem. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS =
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Hi, Yes you are right but it does not prevent backing-up the file structure and consuming database. I mean: Even if I had exclude c:\...\* in option file, all the file system structure (names of folders) are sent to TSM and saved to TSM database. This does not mean that it backs-up the files but it consumes TSM database with C:\Program Files\Common Files\... kind of folders. Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 15:48 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Burak, I'd try: Domain c: Exclude *\...\* Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the directory structures from backup. Please advise if this solves the problem. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS =
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Eric, wouldn't you want the exclude statement last? It stops processing the list when it makes a match. If the exclude statement was first and it was a wild card like that, it would not process anything. Am I missing something? Mark -Original Message- From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi Burak! Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom up, so change it into: Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS Exclude *\...\* Domain c: d: Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. ** Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Burak, I'd try: Domain c: Exclude *\...\* Presuming you only want the registry - which I have not tested - and presuming that you aren't backing up any other files on c: or d:. Including anything would mean adding exclude.dir commands to exclude the directory structures from backup. Please advise if this solves the problem. Steffan - Original Message - From: "Burak Demircan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS =
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Hi Burak! Try changing Exclude *\...\* into Exclude Exclude ?:\...\* or maybe even better c:\...\* Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Bu this does not prevent tsm client to process all directories in drive C:? What can be the solution? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 14:43 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi Burak! Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom up, so change it into: Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS Exclude *\...\* Domain c: d: Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Bu this does not prevent tsm client to process all directories in drive C:? What can be the solution? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.03.2002 14:43 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi Burak! Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom up, so change it into: Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS Exclude *\...\* Domain c: d: Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
include/exclude for Windows NT
Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS
Re: include/exclude for Windows NT
Hi Burak! Remember that TSM reads the exclude and include statements from the bottom up, so change it into: Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS Exclude *\...\* Domain c: d: Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude for Windows NT Hi, I want to backup registry of Windows NT but nothing else in drive c: I am using following options but it also backups the directory structure (not files) How can I only backup registry (c:\adsm.sys directory) and nothing else? Regards, Burak Domain c: d: Exclude *\...\* Include c:\adsm.sys\...\* NTCLASS Include d:\...\* NTCLASS ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **