Re: questions about authentication and general viability

2015-11-12 Thread rh
hi there,

thanks for those links.  we have reviewed those, and we still have 
questions.  specifically, the rmf guide mentions that tools offering very 
limited and specialized functionality do not have to meet any creation and 
management requirements, but then goes on to suggest that tools providing 
data related to the TrafficEstimatorSerive have to provide ALL 
functionality listed in the rmf table:  so if all we want to do is query 
that service for two values, which of these recommendations do we adhere 
to?  were we to provide access to our tool to anonymous third parties, it 
wouldnt be strictly for internal use, what would our requirements be in 
this case?

which leads to my confusion about your answer to my second question.  you 
mention that we should implement the application flow of authentication, 
but the documentation indicates that in this model the user does indeed 
have to manually authenticate via a login screen.  only once, i get that, 
but in our case even once would not be acceptable.  is not what we really 
want a service account for authentication where credentials are read from a 
file accessible only by our tool?  

i should mention that this tool will run on php, browser-based.   thanks 
for all your help.

kind regards,
-rob

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Re: questions about authentication and general viability

2015-11-12 Thread rh
thanks again michael, and sorry if i've made u repeat yourself. :)

have a good one,
-rob

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questions about general viability and authentication

2015-11-10 Thread rh
hello,

i thought i just posted a question, but there must have been a glitch as i 
dont see it in the forum.  if this topic ends up being a duplicate, i 
apologize.

we are developing a tool to assist us in doing (and outsourcing) some 
keyword research.  we are basically generating long-tail keywords and need 
to test each phrase for overall search volume and adwords competition using 
the TrafficEstimatorService.  actually, the really crucial piece of 
information is search traffic volume (competition could be guesstimated), 
and imho, given google's monopolistic position in the search engine market, 
this information should be provided freely to anyone.  since it isn't, can 
we expect to be issued a permanent developer token for such an application 
even though there is virtually no relation to any classic adwords-related 
tasks?

my second question is about authentification.  since the goal is to 
outsource this task, it is essential that users of the tool do not have 
access to any adwords credentials or logins/passwords.  this is the main 
motivation behind creating this tool.  any kind of authentication with the 
api server needs to be done silently and without any user interaction (no 
oauth2 login screens etc).  i see that there are several authentication 
methods available - how can we best achieve this sort of automated 
authentication that we're used to from so many other soap apis out there?

thanks in advance for your help.

kind regards,
-rob k.

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questions about authentication and general viability

2015-11-10 Thread rh
hello,

we are developing a tool to automate and possibly outsource some keyword 
research tasks.  long-tail keywords are generated by us but need to be 
checked for search traffic volume and adwords competition, as is possible 
using the estimator service in the adwords frontend.  we need to be able to 
let third parties use this tool to assist us in our research endeavors.  

first off i'm wondering if this is generally a viable application for 
qualified adwords api usage.  will we get a permanent, unlimited developer 
token for this kind of application model?  actually, the really crucial 
piece of information for us is search volume per search key, competition 
value would be great but isnt totally necessary.  and actually, imho, given 
google's market position in search engines, this information should be 
freely available to anyone, anyway.. 

my second question is about authentication.  i see there are several 
methods available, but i'm unclear as to which will work for us.  the main 
thing is that the main user of the tool must not have access to any kind of 
adwords credentials, so all authentication needs to happen silently and 
without user interaction (no oauth2 login screens etc).  how can we best 
achieve this?  

thanks for your help!

kind regards,
-rob k.

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Re: v13 Cross Client Report Service

2011-12-15 Thread rh
Thanks for clearing things up Kevin.

Can I suggest/request that something is put in place where old posts
are updated if they are incorrect? Not easy I know but would be usable
across the Google blogs and would help prevent misunderstandings and
confusion in general.

Thanks again


On Dec 15, 3:09 pm, Kevin Winter kevin.win...@google.com wrote:
 Hi,
   The most recent posts are more up-to-date regarding sunsets than the
 earlier posts you linked in the below message.  V13 reporting will be
 sunset on February 29th, 2012 along with every version with the exception
 of v201109.

 - Kevin Winter
 AdWords API Team







 On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:52:10 AM UTC-5, rh wrote:

  Thanks, I have found this post also.

  The confusing thing is Google are contradicting themselves.

  I have found 1 post where they state that V13 ReportingService will
  sunset in August 2011:http://adwordsapi.blogspot.com/2011/03/adwords-
  api-v201101-launch-providing.html

  I have found another where it states We want to clarify that the
  sunset that will happen four months from when MCC cross-client reports
  go live
 http://adwordsapi.blogspot.com/2011/05/update-on-adwords-api-v201101-...
  Yet they now state *Note: We are not supporting cross-client reports
  in this release.

  Due to the above a concrete answer from Google would be fantastic. Or
  maybe when they go back on what they have said previously, an update
  to previous post's would help clear things up.

  Still confused. I really need a definitive answer, thanks.

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v13 Cross Client Report Service

2011-12-14 Thread rh
Hi, I run keyword reports, at an MCC level for all sub accounts that
we manage via the v13 Cross Client Report Service.

Is this functionality being sunsetted or not? I have found conflicting
information.

Thanks

RH

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