Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
Hi Rc, Back when we charged for API units (we no longer do), the mutate job service did consume fewer API units. However, since we no longer charge for units (we only limit on operations, which is a different concept from the old API units), this no longer applies. The main advantages of MutateJobService https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201402/MutateJobService are asynchronous processing and simplifying retry logic. In terms of changes to rate limits for specific services -- those limits are dynamic and may change over time, so you should design your application to handle these errors properly. In terms of your token's allowable operations per day, that will not change unless your access type changes from *Basic* to *Standard* or vice versa. You mentioned you found broken links on MutateJobService. Could you let me know how you came across those so I can investigate? Thanks, Josh, AdWords API Team On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:18:40 PM UTC-4, Ricky Cortopassi wrote: Thank you for the response. I have reviewed the ratesheet.However, I had read before that using the bulkmutatejobservice would result in lower amount of operations being used up ( half of what the adgroupservice mutate request would). This does not seem to be the case on the rate sheet.. Do you know if this has changed. I tried to find the page that talked about the bulk mutate , however most of them now go to broken links. This just started happening about a week ago, Before that we were using well over 10,000 operations per day. Thanks, Rc On Friday, June 6, 2014 3:09:16 PM UTC-5, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of any way to see the type of access you have via the UI or the API, but when you apply for standard access I would expect the API Review Team to let you know if you already have that level of access. The numOperations returned in the response is not a cumulative value, and as far as I know does not return different values based on your access type. If you want to track your operations count you'll need to implement that in your application, using the Rate Sheet https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet as a guide. Cheers, Josh, AdWords API Team On Friday, June 6, 2014 10:51:57 AM UTC-4, Ricky Cortopassi wrote: I am having the same issue regarding the RATE LIMIT - billing per day . We applied for standard access, however - how can you tell if you have standard access or basic . I think that the soap response should have num operations as 0 if it is standard access, and the basic should have the num operations of the 10,000 used if basic . Is this correct. ? Thanks On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:37:27 PM UTC-5, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To post to this group, send email to adwords-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
I am having the same issue regarding the RATE LIMIT - billing per day . We applied for standard access, however - how can you tell if you have standard access or basic . I think that the soap response should have num operations as 0 if it is standard access, and the basic should have the num operations of the 10,000 used if basic . Is this correct. ? Thanks On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:37:27 PM UTC-5, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To post to this group, send email to adwords-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
Good Morning Josh, Thanks for answering all my questions. I will work on getting our developer token upgraded to standard. that might alleviate some of our problems. I will also try your recommended method to get the accounts/campaigns list. Thanks, Sudi On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:07:27 PM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: Hi Sudi, I've added more responses in blue below. Thanks, Josh, AdWords API Team On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:32:21 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: Hi Josh, Thanks for the reply. Couple of questions - 1. Just to clarify - Is the access level upgrade tied to the Developer token or is it tied to each MCC Account that I try to access with that Dev Token? It's tied to the developer token. 2. Our Developer token is used by multiple applications that run various API calls. Is there a way to get a breakdown of API request made versus quota used per request so we can understand which request triggered the RateExceedError? This will allow us to narrow down the rogue application. Each *mutate* response includes an *operations* header that you could use to track the operations count on your side. For *get* requests, you would need to implement operations counting on your side (see the Rate Sheet https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet for information on how operations are counted for these requests). We currently use ManagedCustomerService to get a list of accounts under an MCC and thereafter use CampaignService to get the list of Campaigns under each of the accounts under the MCC. Once the user selects the necessary campaign(s), we proceed to run various reports (Keyword Perf, Ad Perf etc) as the application demands Our issue right now is against an MCC account that has more than 200 sub-accounts and the call to CampaignService fails with the RateExceedError when we try to pull the list of campaigns across all the 200+ accounts. Is this not the most efficient way of doing this? I'm not sure how pulling zero-impression reports in this case will alleviate our problem. Could you clarify? A more effective approach would be to use reporting to get the structure of your MCC and campaigns. As the Rate Sheet https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet states: *AdHoc report downloads https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/reporting or any requests by test accounts https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/test-accounts do not count towards the daily operations limit. The following table gives some examples of the accounting:* If you want to get *all* accounts and campaigns in your reports you should explicitly request zero impression rows using the method described in the link I sent previously (add includeZeroImpressionstrue/includeZeroImpressions to your report definition XML). For example, you could achieve your use case using the following reporting-based approach: 1. To get a list of accounts under an MCC, use the ACCOUNT_PERFORMANCE_REPORT https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/reports#account and read the *ExternalCustomerId* field values. Note that if your MCC has child MCCs (not just child AdWords accounts) you will have to run the report for those MCCs as well. 2. Use the CAMPAIGN_PERFORMANCE_REPORT to get the list of campaigns for each account. 3. Run the various reports as you do today on a per-account basis. Thanks, Sudi On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:19:15 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: Hi, I've added my responses below in blue. Cheers, Josh, AdWords API Team On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. Please see the section of our *Rate Limits Guide* that covers Decomposing RateExceededError https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits#decomposing_rateexceedederror . My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? Per the *Rate Limits Guide*, the *rateScope* indicates if the rate is at the developer (token) level or the AdWords account level. 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? The default level for developer tokens is *Basic access*, which allows up to 10,000 operations per day. You can request an upgrade to the *Standard access *level by completing the standard access application https://www.google.com/adwords/api/standardaccess/. 3. The
Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
Hi, I've added my responses below in blue. Cheers, Josh, AdWords API Team On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. Please see the section of our *Rate Limits Guide* that covers Decomposing RateExceededError https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits#decomposing_rateexceedederror . My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? Per the *Rate Limits Guide*, the *rateScope* indicates if the rate is at the developer (token) level or the AdWords account level. 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? The default level for developer tokens is *Basic access*, which allows up to 10,000 operations per day. You can request an upgrade to the *Standard access *level by completing the standard access application https://www.google.com/adwords/api/standardaccess/. 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? Are you sure you are getting this from *reporting* requests? The most common source of *RateExceededErrors* with the *BillingPerDay* is TargetingIdeaService https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201402/TargetingIdeaService. If you are getting this from reporting requests could you let me know which reports you are running? You cannot really work around rate limits, but the Rate Limits Guide https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits contains some tips on best practices. Also, if you are using services to simply get structural information about your accounts, I'd recommend using Zero Impression Reports https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/zero-impression-reports /Structure Reports https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/structure-reports instead of the SOAP services. -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To post to this group, send email to adwords-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
Hi Josh, Thanks for the reply. Couple of questions - 1. Just to clarify - Is the access level upgrade tied to the Developer token or is it tied to each MCC Account that I try to access with that Dev Token? 2. Our Developer token is used by multiple applications that run various API calls. Is there a way to get a breakdown of API request made versus quota used per request so we can understand which request triggered the RateExceedError? This will allow us to narrow down the rogue application. We currently use ManagedCustomerService to get a list of accounts under an MCC and thereafter use CampaignService to get the list of Campaigns under each of the accounts under the MCC. Once the user selects the necessary campaign(s), we proceed to run various reports (Keyword Perf, Ad Perf etc) as the application demands Our issue right now is against an MCC account that has more than 200 sub-accounts and the call to CampaignService fails with the RateExceedError when we try to pull the list of campaigns across all the 200+ accounts. Is this not the most efficient way of doing this? I'm not sure how pulling zero-impression reports in this case will alleviate our problem. Could you clarify? Thanks, Sudi On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:19:15 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: Hi, I've added my responses below in blue. Cheers, Josh, AdWords API Team On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. Please see the section of our *Rate Limits Guide* that covers Decomposing RateExceededError https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits#decomposing_rateexceedederror . My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? Per the *Rate Limits Guide*, the *rateScope* indicates if the rate is at the developer (token) level or the AdWords account level. 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? The default level for developer tokens is *Basic access*, which allows up to 10,000 operations per day. You can request an upgrade to the *Standard access *level by completing the standard access application https://www.google.com/adwords/api/standardaccess/. 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? Are you sure you are getting this from *reporting* requests? The most common source of *RateExceededErrors* with the *BillingPerDay* is TargetingIdeaService https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201402/TargetingIdeaService. If you are getting this from reporting requests could you let me know which reports you are running? You cannot really work around rate limits, but the Rate Limits Guide https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits contains some tips on best practices. Also, if you are using services to simply get structural information about your accounts, I'd recommend using Zero Impression Reports https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/zero-impression-reports /Structure Reports https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/structure-reports instead of the SOAP services. -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To post to this group, send email to adwords-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
Hi Sudi, I've added more responses in blue below. Thanks, Josh, AdWords API Team On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:32:21 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: Hi Josh, Thanks for the reply. Couple of questions - 1. Just to clarify - Is the access level upgrade tied to the Developer token or is it tied to each MCC Account that I try to access with that Dev Token? It's tied to the developer token. 2. Our Developer token is used by multiple applications that run various API calls. Is there a way to get a breakdown of API request made versus quota used per request so we can understand which request triggered the RateExceedError? This will allow us to narrow down the rogue application. Each *mutate* response includes an *operations* header that you could use to track the operations count on your side. For *get* requests, you would need to implement operations counting on your side (see the Rate Sheet https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet for information on how operations are counted for these requests). We currently use ManagedCustomerService to get a list of accounts under an MCC and thereafter use CampaignService to get the list of Campaigns under each of the accounts under the MCC. Once the user selects the necessary campaign(s), we proceed to run various reports (Keyword Perf, Ad Perf etc) as the application demands Our issue right now is against an MCC account that has more than 200 sub-accounts and the call to CampaignService fails with the RateExceedError when we try to pull the list of campaigns across all the 200+ accounts. Is this not the most efficient way of doing this? I'm not sure how pulling zero-impression reports in this case will alleviate our problem. Could you clarify? A more effective approach would be to use reporting to get the structure of your MCC and campaigns. As the Rate Sheet https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet states: *AdHoc report downloads https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/reporting or any requests by test accounts https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/test-accounts do not count towards the daily operations limit. The following table gives some examples of the accounting:* If you want to get *all* accounts and campaigns in your reports you should explicitly request zero impression rows using the method described in the link I sent previously (add includeZeroImpressionstrue/includeZeroImpressions to your report definition XML). For example, you could achieve your use case using the following reporting-based approach: 1. To get a list of accounts under an MCC, use the ACCOUNT_PERFORMANCE_REPORT https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/reports#account and read the *ExternalCustomerId* field values. Note that if your MCC has child MCCs (not just child AdWords accounts) you will have to run the report for those MCCs as well. 2. Use the CAMPAIGN_PERFORMANCE_REPORT to get the list of campaigns for each account. 3. Run the various reports as you do today on a per-account basis. Thanks, Sudi On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:19:15 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) wrote: Hi, I've added my responses below in blue. Cheers, Josh, AdWords API Team On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, Sudi Gopinath wrote: I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. Please see the section of our *Rate Limits Guide* that covers Decomposing RateExceededError https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/rate-limits#decomposing_rateexceedederror . My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? Per the *Rate Limits Guide*, the *rateScope* indicates if the rate is at the developer (token) level or the AdWords account level. 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? The default level for developer tokens is *Basic access*, which allows up to 10,000 operations per day. You can request an upgrade to the *Standard access *level by completing the standard access application https://www.google.com/adwords/api/standardaccess/. 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? Are you sure you are getting this from *reporting* requests? The most common source of *RateExceededErrors* with the *BillingPerDay* is TargetingIdeaService https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201402/TargetingIdeaService. If you are getting this from
API Rate Limit (RateExceededError): Is it Developer token based or MCC Account Based?
I am trying to understand how RateExceededError(s) are associated with MCC accounts and Developer Tokens. My application uses a single developer token to pull various reports from AdWords (Keyword Performance, Ad Performance etc.) across multiple MCC accounts. During some large pulls across multiple accounts/campaigns I get a RateExceededError - RateExceededError rateName=BillingPerDay, rateKey=level1_plan, rateScope=DEVELOPER, retryAfterSeconds=86400 1. Since this is a BillingPerDay rate name, does this mean that it is associated with my developer token? 2. If so, can I upgrade my developer token rate limit? 3. The retryAfterSeconds = 86400 which is 24 hours (whoa!). Is there any way around this as a stop gap? -- -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and Google+: https://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAdsDevelopers/posts =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To post to this group, send email to adwords-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AdWords API Forum group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to adwords-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
