Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

[Zweitze]

Hi Nadine,

Thanks for your answer! Exactly what I needed to know, now I can go ahead.
It was a pleasure meeting you in Hamburg, see you next time!

Cheers,
Zweitze de Vries
Maxlead

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 9:51:55 PM UTC+2, Nadine Sundquist 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Greetings Zweitze,
>
> It was a pleasure seeing you again at the AdWords API workshops! I hope 
> you're doing well. I'm jumping in since you're getting into the nuances of 
> conversion tracking. Let's see if I can get this sorted out for you. I'll 
> start out with your related question, and if we need to backtrack on the 
> other questions, I'll be happy to clarify.
>
> Changing the *Count* setting of the conversion tracker will not affect 
> reporting from the past. I was able to find a line in our About Moving 
> from "Converted clicks" to "Conversions" Help Center article 
>  that says "The 
> changes to your conversion action settings will only affect your reporting 
> going forward, and won’t change historical reporting statistics." I've 
> found that most people seem to be taking this particular route when 
> migrating.
>
> If you need any further help on this, please don't hesitate to reach out.
>
> Best,
> Nadine, AdWords API Team
>
> On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:46:24 AM UTC-4, Zweitze wrote:
>>
>> I'm afraid this answer is not very helpful either. You say "Converted 
>> clicks can't be segmented 
>>  by conversion name, 
>> conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
>> to multiple conversion actions".
>> Believe it or not: That was exactly the case in the past 11 years. From 
>> v2 to v201603. Both AdWords web interface and AdWords API supported that 
>> scenario.
>>
>> Thanks for the links, unfortunately none answer my question or are useful.
>>
>> Can I ask a related question? If I change the "Count" setting of a 
>> conversiontracker, will that affect conversions from the past? Although I 
>> did find documentation on the Count setting 
>> , that documentation 
>> lacks this information. I hope you can see how I intend to use that 
>> setting, so I hope your answer covers all scenarios.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+2, Shwetha Vastrad 
>> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ConvertedClicks field will no longer be available in v201607 version of 
>>> the API. You need to use the Conversions 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> field to measure conversion related data. The Conversions field is *not* 
>>> the 
>>> same as the ConvertedClicks field. More information about Conversions as 
>>> compared to ConvertedClicks is available here 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> Converted clicks can't be segmented 
>>>  by conversion name, 
>>> conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
>>> to multiple conversion actions. You can review the conversion tracking 
>>> settings of your account to report similar numbers to the ConvertedClicks 
>>> column. Here are some links which could be helpful:
>>>
>>>- Simplifying conversion measurement 
>>>
>>> 
>>>- About moving from “Converted clicks” to “Conversions” 
>>>
>>>- Compare "Conversions" and "Converted clicks" 
>>>
>>>- Understand your conversion tracking data 
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>>>
>>

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Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

['Nadine Sundquist (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Greetings Zweitze,

It was a pleasure seeing you again at the AdWords API workshops! I hope 
you're doing well. I'm jumping in since you're getting into the nuances of 
conversion tracking. Let's see if I can get this sorted out for you. I'll 
start out with your related question, and if we need to backtrack on the 
other questions, I'll be happy to clarify.

Changing the *Count* setting of the conversion tracker will not affect 
reporting from the past. I was able to find a line in our About Moving from 
"Converted clicks" to "Conversions" Help Center article 
 that says "The changes 
to your conversion action settings will only affect your reporting going 
forward, and won’t change historical reporting statistics." I've found that 
most people seem to be taking this particular route when migrating.

If you need any further help on this, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Best,
Nadine, AdWords API Team

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:46:24 AM UTC-4, Zweitze wrote:
>
> I'm afraid this answer is not very helpful either. You say "Converted 
> clicks can't be segmented 
>  by conversion name, 
> conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
> to multiple conversion actions".
> Believe it or not: That was exactly the case in the past 11 years. From v2 
> to v201603. Both AdWords web interface and AdWords API supported that 
> scenario.
>
> Thanks for the links, unfortunately none answer my question or are useful.
>
> Can I ask a related question? If I change the "Count" setting of a 
> conversiontracker, will that affect conversions from the past? Although I 
> did find documentation on the Count setting 
> , that documentation 
> lacks this information. I hope you can see how I intend to use that 
> setting, so I hope your answer covers all scenarios.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+2, Shwetha Vastrad 
> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ConvertedClicks field will no longer be available in v201607 version of 
>> the API. You need to use the Conversions 
>> 
>>  
>> field to measure conversion related data. The Conversions field is *not* the 
>> same as the ConvertedClicks field. More information about Conversions as 
>> compared to ConvertedClicks is available here 
>> . 
>>
>> Converted clicks can't be segmented 
>>  by conversion name, 
>> conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
>> to multiple conversion actions. You can review the conversion tracking 
>> settings of your account to report similar numbers to the ConvertedClicks 
>> column. Here are some links which could be helpful:
>>
>>- Simplifying conversion measurement 
>>
>> 
>>- About moving from “Converted clicks” to “Conversions” 
>>
>>- Compare "Conversions" and "Converted clicks" 
>>
>>- Understand your conversion tracking data 
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>>
>

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Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

[Zweitze]

I'm afraid this answer is not very helpful either. You say "Converted 
clicks can't be segmented 
 by conversion name, 
conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
to multiple conversion actions".
Believe it or not: That was exactly the case in the past 11 years. From v2 
to v201603. Both AdWords web interface and AdWords API supported that 
scenario.

Thanks for the links, unfortunately none answer my question or are useful.

Can I ask a related question? If I change the "Count" setting of a 
conversiontracker, will that affect conversions from the past? Although I 
did find documentation on the Count setting 
, that documentation 
lacks this information. I hope you can see how I intend to use that 
setting, so I hope your answer covers all scenarios.





On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 11:10:30 PM UTC+2, Shwetha Vastrad 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> ConvertedClicks field will no longer be available in v201607 version of 
> the API. You need to use the Conversions 
> 
>  
> field to measure conversion related data. The Conversions field is *not* the 
> same as the ConvertedClicks field. More information about Conversions as 
> compared to ConvertedClicks is available here 
> . 
>
> Converted clicks can't be segmented 
>  by conversion name, 
> conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
> to multiple conversion actions. You can review the conversion tracking 
> settings of your account to report similar numbers to the ConvertedClicks 
> column. Here are some links which could be helpful:
>
>- Simplifying conversion measurement 
>
> 
>- About moving from “Converted clicks” to “Conversions” 
>
>- Compare "Conversions" and "Converted clicks" 
>
>- Understand your conversion tracking data 
>
>
> Regards,
> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>

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Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

['Shwetha Vastrad (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Hi,

ConvertedClicks field will no longer be available in v201607 version of the 
API. You need to use the Conversions 

 
field to measure conversion related data. The Conversions field is *not* the 
same as the ConvertedClicks field. More information about Conversions as 
compared to ConvertedClicks is available here 
. 

Converted clicks can't be segmented 
 by conversion name, 
conversion source, or conversion category, because a single click can lead 
to multiple conversion actions. You can review the conversion tracking 
settings of your account to report similar numbers to the ConvertedClicks 
column. Here are some links which could be helpful:

   - Simplifying conversion measurement 
   

   - About moving from “Converted clicks” to “Conversions” 
   
   - Compare "Conversions" and "Converted clicks" 
   
   - Understand your conversion tracking data 
   
   
Regards,
Shwetha, AdWords API Team.

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Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

[Zweitze]

Thanks for your answer. I have a question about this sentence:

> The Conversions field in v201607 
 
version 
of API reports is equivalent to ConvertedClicks.

Can you confirm, that in v201607 the following changes will take effect:

   - The v201603 field "Conversions" disappears, such information is no 
   longer be available in v201607;
   - The v201603 field "ConvertedClicks" will be available in v201607, but 
   its name will be "Conversions".

Please confirm again - all other documentation about Conversions and 
ConvertedClicks suggest otherwise, i.e. ConvertedClicks just disappears.

If my interpretation of your sentence is wrong, then what do you mean by 
"equivalent" in your sentence? When I get a v201607 report with 
"Conversions", is that the same as a v201603 report with "Conversions"? Or 
"ConvertedClicks"?


Please understand that we can't just stop reporting such information to our 
customers, and we need time to get replacement measuring ready. I told them 
they probably have until the end of the year or early next year, with the 
sunset of v201605. It would be bad news for everyone if ConvertedClicks 
-segmented by ConversionTrackers- stops in four weeks.
Note: if ConvertedClicks will be called Conversions in the future and just 
live on through that name, that would be great news for our customers.


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:41:40 PM UTC+2, Shwetha Vastrad 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The Conversions field in v201607 
>  
> version 
> of API reports is equivalent to ConvertedClicks. This field is compatible 
> with the ConversionTrackedId 
> 
>  field. 
> You could continue using v201603 version of the API to preserve your 
> historical converted clicks data and migrate to v201607 version of the API 
> and start using fields based on Conversions 
> 
>  instead. 
> I apologize that this change wasn't documented in the v201605 migration 
> guide. 
>
> Please note that API version v201603 will be sunset 
>  on 25 
> October, 2016. Please be sure to migrate prior to the sunset to ensure your 
> API access is unaffected.
>
> Regards,
> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>

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Re: ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

['Shwetha Vastrad (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Hi,

The Conversions field in v201607 
 
version 
of API reports is equivalent to ConvertedClicks. This field is compatible 
with the ConversionTrackedId 

 field. 
You could continue using v201603 version of the API to preserve your 
historical converted clicks data and migrate to v201607 version of the API 
and start using fields based on Conversions 

 instead. 
I apologize that this change wasn't documented in the v201605 migration 
guide. 

Please note that API version v201603 will be sunset 
 on 25 
October, 2016. Please be sure to migrate prior to the sunset to ensure your 
API access is unaffected.

Regards,
Shwetha, AdWords API Team.

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ConversionTrackerId cannot be used in combination with ConvertedClicks in v201605?!

[Zweitze]

While migrating from v201603 to v201605, I ran into a truly unpleasant 
surprise: The combination of those fields is no longer supported. Note that 
this change was not documented in the release notes of v201605, or the 
migration guide to v201605.

I know that field convertedclicks will disappear in v201607, but our 
customers are not ready for that (they are focused on lead collecting, they 
have no use for multiple conversions from the same user). Anyway, all 
communication from Google on converted clicks suggests that it will 
disappear with v201607, not earlier.

So this is a very nasty surprise.

Anyone know a workaround to get converted clicks per conversion type? Apart 
from not upgrading to v201605?

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