Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[jordan]

Hi Anash,

I am currently facing the same problem - creating the initial Product 
Groups on a couple of thousand Ad Groups at a time. Running in parallel, 
mutating two ad groups at a time results in RateExceeded errors. To comply 
with the given restrictions would result in an incredibly slow system, 
which would not be suited to our clients needs.

Do you have any advice on how to side step this issue?

Kind regards,

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:57:21 PM UTC, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords 
API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> If you can share your customer ID, I can file a feature request with a 
> reference to that account as use case. That said, are you using multiple 
> threads? How many calls are you making in parallel?
>
> Cheers,
> Anash P. Oommen,
> AdWords API Advisor.
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 6:09:02 PM UTC-5, Michael Buetow wrote:
>>
>> Hello Danial,
>>
>> We currently have many clients with a large numbers of Product Groups and 
>> we were evaluating methods to increase our systems performance while 
>> modifying them. One of the most common structures among our clients is for 
>> every 1 Ad Group they have only 3 Product Groups within that Ad Group and 
>> this is repeated for thousands of Ad Groups. This limit 
>>  
>> of only being able to modify Product Groups within 2 Ad Groups at a time is 
>> extremely restraining when faced with clients that choose to structure 
>> their accounts in the previously mentioned layout. Is there any plan to 
>> increase this limit or remove it altogether? If not i'd like to request 
>> that it be evaluated as a feature request.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 3:18:33 AM UTC-8, Danial Klimkin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Bas,
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no way to avoid this restriction at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Danial, AdWords API Team.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05:46 PM UTC+3, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 Hi Josh,

 Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance 
 during product partitioning?

 Thanks in advance,

 Bas

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
 API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
> shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
> 
> .
>
> Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make 
> sure that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
> partition tree in a valid state 
> 
> .
>
> Cheers,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
> On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>>
>> After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
>> (see links below)
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=cr=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
>> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping
>>
>> I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
>> synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in 
>> a 
>> AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS
>>
>> The API documentation on 
>> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
>>  
>> does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Prabhat Jha]

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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 3:09:02 PM UTC-8, Michael Buetow wrote:
>
> Hello Danial,
>
> We currently have many clients with a large numbers of Product Groups and 
> we were evaluating methods to increase our systems performance while 
> modifying them. One of the most common structures among our clients is for 
> every 1 Ad Group they have only 3 Product Groups within that Ad Group and 
> this is repeated for thousands of Ad Groups. This limit 
>  
> of only being able to modify Product Groups within 2 Ad Groups at a time is 
> extremely restraining when faced with clients that choose to structure 
> their accounts in the previously mentioned layout. Is there any plan to 
> increase this limit or remove it altogether? If not i'd like to request 
> that it be evaluated as a feature request.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 3:18:33 AM UTC-8, Danial Klimkin wrote:
>>
>> Hello Bas,
>>
>>
>> There is no way to avoid this restriction at the moment.
>>
>>
>> -Danial, AdWords API Team.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05:46 PM UTC+3, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance 
>>> during product partitioning?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Bas
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>> API Team) wrote:

 Hi,

 A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
 shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
 
 .

 Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make 
 sure that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
 partition tree in a valid state 
 
 .

 Cheers,
 Josh, AdWords API Team

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>
> After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
> (see links below)
>
>
> https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=cr=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping
>
> I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
> synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
> AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS
>
> The API documentation on 
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
>  
> does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?
>
>
>

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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Anash P. Oommen (AdWords API Team)]

Hi Michael,

If you can share your customer ID, I can file a feature request with a 
reference to that account as use case. That said, are you using multiple 
threads? How many calls are you making in parallel?

Cheers,
Anash P. Oommen,
AdWords API Advisor.

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 6:09:02 PM UTC-5, Michael Buetow wrote:
>
> Hello Danial,
>
> We currently have many clients with a large numbers of Product Groups and 
> we were evaluating methods to increase our systems performance while 
> modifying them. One of the most common structures among our clients is for 
> every 1 Ad Group they have only 3 Product Groups within that Ad Group and 
> this is repeated for thousands of Ad Groups. This limit 
>  
> of only being able to modify Product Groups within 2 Ad Groups at a time is 
> extremely restraining when faced with clients that choose to structure 
> their accounts in the previously mentioned layout. Is there any plan to 
> increase this limit or remove it altogether? If not i'd like to request 
> that it be evaluated as a feature request.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 3:18:33 AM UTC-8, Danial Klimkin wrote:
>>
>> Hello Bas,
>>
>>
>> There is no way to avoid this restriction at the moment.
>>
>>
>> -Danial, AdWords API Team.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05:46 PM UTC+3, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance 
>>> during product partitioning?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Bas
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>> API Team) wrote:

 Hi,

 A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
 shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
 
 .

 Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make 
 sure that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
 partition tree in a valid state 
 
 .

 Cheers,
 Josh, AdWords API Team

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>
> After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
> (see links below)
>
>
> https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=cr=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping
>
> I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
> synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
> AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS
>
> The API documentation on 
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
>  
> does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?
>
>
>

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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Michael Buetow]

Hello Danial,

We currently have many clients with a large numbers of Product Groups and 
we were evaluating methods to increase our systems performance while 
modifying them. One of the most common structures among our clients is for 
every 1 Ad Group they have only 3 Product Groups within that Ad Group and 
this is repeated for thousands of Ad Groups. This limit 
 of 
only being able to modify Product Groups within 2 Ad Groups at a time is 
extremely restraining when faced with clients that choose to structure 
their accounts in the previously mentioned layout. Is there any plan to 
increase this limit or remove it altogether? If not i'd like to request 
that it be evaluated as a feature request.

Thanks,
Michael

On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 at 3:18:33 AM UTC-8, Danial Klimkin wrote:
>
> Hello Bas,
>
>
> There is no way to avoid this restriction at the moment.
>
>
> -Danial, AdWords API Team.
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05:46 PM UTC+3, Bas Hilbers wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance 
>> during product partitioning?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Bas
>>
>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
>> Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
>>> shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make 
>>> sure that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
>>> partition tree in a valid state 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
 (see links below)


 https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=cr=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping

 I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
 synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
 AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS

 The API documentation on 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
  
 does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?




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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Danial Klimkin]

Hello Bas,


There is no way to avoid this restriction at the moment.


-Danial, AdWords API Team.


On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05:46 PM UTC+3, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 Hi Josh,

 Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance 
 during product partitioning?

 Thanks in advance,

 Bas

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
 Team) wrote:

 Hi,

 A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
 shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/limits#adgroup.

 Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make sure 
 that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
 partition tree in a valid state 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping#modifying_existing_productpartition_trees
 .

 Cheers,
 Josh, AdWords API Team

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
 (see links below)


 https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=crei=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping

 I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
 synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
 AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS

 The API documentation on 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
  
 does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?




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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Bas Hilbers]

Hi Josh,

Thanks for the quick response. Any way of increasing the performance during 
product partitioning?

Thanks in advance,

Bas

On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58:25 PM UTC+1, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
Team) wrote:

 Hi,

 A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
 shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/limits#adgroup.

 Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make sure 
 that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
 partition tree in a valid state 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping#modifying_existing_productpartition_trees
 .

 Cheers,
 Josh, AdWords API Team

 On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping 
 (see links below)


 https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=crei=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping

 I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular 
 synchronous batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
 AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS

 The API documentation on 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
  
 does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?




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Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Bas Hilbers]

After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping (see 
links below)

https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=crei=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping

I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular synchronous 
batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS

The API documentation 
on 
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
 
does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?


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Re: Operation limit for adgroupcriterions on shopping adgroups

[Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)]

Hi,

A given *AdGroupCriterionService.mutate* request can modify at most 2 
shopping ad groups. See the *Ad groups* section of the Limits guide 
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/limits#adgroup.

Also, when breaking up operations into batches, you'll want to make sure 
that the set of operations submitted for each mutate call leaves the 
partition tree in a valid state 
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping#modifying_existing_productpartition_trees
.

Cheers,
Josh, AdWords API Team

On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45:58 AM UTC-5, Bas Hilbers wrote:

 After reading that the mutatejobservice is not available for shopping (see 
 links below)


 https://www.google.nl/?gws_rd=crei=ryyYVPC2Bc7HPeiCgUg#q=CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/shopping

 I instantiated the AdGroupCriterionService and started regular synchronous 
 batching with 400, 250 or even 200 operations, resulting in a 
 AdGroupCriterionError.OPERATIONS_FOR_TOO_MANY_SHOPPING_ADGROUPS

 The API documentation on 
 https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201409/AdGroupCriterionService.AdGroupCriterionError
  
 does not specifiy a valid operation limit.. any suggestions?




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