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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-07 Thread Jaime Solorza

Ha.  I tore tags off my mattress and furniturenot afraid of FCC...lol

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 7:11 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything
> about Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the
> people that head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung,
> violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for
> what it is worth.
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming
>> software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this
>> last weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty
>> well. I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the
>> repeater, but overall, not bad at all.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC
>> type certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified
>> UHF radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for
>> radios that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the
>> section for GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so
>> concerned about that certification use these. I have quite a few various
>> Chinese radios and I have never heard of this brand, so personally at that
>> price I would go with a more known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun.
>> Since there are actually still wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter
>> channels for portable to portable comms only), I would shop around for some
>> real radios such as Motorola UHF portables that will be more durable. You
>> should be able to get the old wide band versions cheap. Likely will need
>> new batteries and maybe antennas but they should last. Commercial radio
>> services are all narrow band now so wide band only radios are no longer
>> legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a set in a
>> gang charger. If you do look at any particular models ping me off list and
>> I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I can point you in
>> the right direction for programming and such as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
>>
>>
>>
>> Hanoi handi potatoe potato
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312039479427&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15843251035210015126&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-569078696569&psc=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this morning.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-07 Thread Lewis Bergman

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything
about Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the
people that head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung,
violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for
what it is worth.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming
> software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this
> last weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty
> well. I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the
> repeater, but overall, not bad at all.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
> Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC type
> certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF
> radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for
> radios that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the
> section for GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so
> concerned about that certification use these. I have quite a few various
> Chinese radios and I have never heard of this brand, so personally at that
> price I would go with a more known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun.
> Since there are actually still wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter
> channels for portable to portable comms only), I would shop around for some
> real radios such as Motorola UHF portables that will be more durable. You
> should be able to get the old wide band versions cheap. Likely will need
> new batteries and maybe antennas but they should last. Commercial radio
> services are all narrow band now so wide band only radios are no longer
> legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a set in a
> gang charger. If you do look at any particular models ping me off list and
> I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I can point you in
> the right direction for programming and such as well.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
>
>
>
> Hanoi handi potatoe potato
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312039479427&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15843251035210015126&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-569078696569&psc=1
>
>
>
>
>
> Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this morning.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available
programming software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran
a radio drill this last weekend through our new repeater, and
everything seemed to work pretty well. I've got some concerns
about the location the group picked for the repeater, but overall,
not bad at all.

On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown
wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program. They seem to work ok.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster
wrote:

Technically
you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have
FCC type certification for GMRS service. Some will say
that part 90 certified UHF radios are allowed to be
used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios
that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I
think that’s the section for GMRS) was set up as a
requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that
certification use these. I have quite a few various
Chinese radios and I have never heard of this brand,
so personally at that price I would go with a more
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since
there are actually still wide band GMRS channels (not
the splinter channels for portable to portable comms
only), I would shop around for some real radios such
as Motorola UHF portables that will be more durable.
You should be able to get the old wide band versions
cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe
antennas but they should last. Commercial radio
services are all narrow band now so wide band only
radios are no longer legal in those services.
Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a set in a gang
charger. If you do look at any particular models ping
me off list and I can let you know which models are
good and bad to use. I can point you in the right
direction for programming and such as well.

Thank
You,
Brian
Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

Hanoi
handi potatoe potato

Sent from
my iPhone

On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown
wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312039479427&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15843251035210015126&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-569078696569&psc=1

Gmrs?
Anyone know this radio? I had it recommended to
me this morning.

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from my iPhone

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-07 Thread trey

Yeah I second that just get a programming cable and chirpe. Then it can be done
very quickly. After you learn their weird menu system it becomes easier still
wouldn't want to do it other than setting one or two memory settings.
Original message From: Brian Webster
Date: 5/6/19 5:44 PM (GMT-07:00) To: 'AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
If you get the Chirp software they are pretty easy, once you have one
programmed cloning identical radios is a matter of seconds for each radio.
Thank You,Brian Websterwww.wirelessmapping.comwww.Broadband-Mapping.com From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCownSent: Monday, May
06, 2019 4:22 PMTo: AnimalFarm Microwave Users GroupSubject: Re: [AFMUG] OT
Hanoi talkies Baofeng are hard to program. They seem to work ok. Sent from my
iPhoneOn May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster
wrote:Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC
type certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF
radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios
that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the section for
GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that
certification use these. I have quite a few various Chinese radios and I have
never heard of this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually still
wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter channels for portable to portable
comms only), I would shop around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF
portables that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old wide
band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe antennas but they
should last. Commercial radio services are all narrow band now so wide band
only radios are no longer legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a
nice deal on a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular models
ping me off list and I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I
can point you in the right direction for programming and such as well. Thank
You,Brian Websterwww.wirelessmapping.comwww.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF
[mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCownSent: Monday, May 06,
2019 3:08 PMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies Hanoi
handi potatoe potato Sent from my iPhoneOn May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck
McCown
wrote:https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312039479427&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15843251035210015126&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013962&hvtargid=pla-569078696569&psc=1
Gmrs? Anyone know this radio? I had it recommended to me this morning.Sent
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Re: [AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors

2019-05-07 Thread Ken Hohhof

Also make sure you have no Mikrotik routers that have been hacked and a
SOCKS Proxy installed.

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Subject: [AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors

Anyone else getting customers complaining that Hulu has blocked their
access? We're using NAT for a large portion of our customers, and over the
past few days we've been getting a lot of customers calling is because Hulu
has blocked our range of NAT IP's. Does anyone know of a fix for this other
than changing the NAT IP block? Is there a way to let Hulu know that we are
an ISP and not a VPN company so that they can whitelist us?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT clocks in cars

2019-05-07 Thread Steve Jones

The wifes jeep has been changing time between CST CDT, probably remnants of
the GPS rollover hitting digital radio stations signal

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:25 AM  wrote:

> Odd, yesterday afternoon I had the clocks in two different vehicles start
> displaying GMT.  One is a brand new Nissan Leaf, the other a 3 year old
> Chevy 3500 truck.  This morning back to normal.  Anyone else notice
> anything?
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[AFMUG] OT clocks in cars

2019-05-07 Thread chuck

Odd, yesterday afternoon I had the clocks in two different vehicles start 
displaying GMT.  One is a brand new Nissan Leaf, the other a 3 year old Chevy 
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[AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors

2019-05-07 Thread Christopher Tyler

Anyone else getting customers complaining that Hulu has blocked their access? 
We're using NAT for a large portion of our customers, and over the past few 
days we've been getting a lot of customers calling is because Hulu has blocked 
our range of NAT IP's. Does anyone know of a fix for this other than changing 
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[AFMUG] OT Happy

2019-05-07 Thread chuck

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Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe

2019-05-07 Thread Chuck McCown

Have you seen The Hummingbird Project yet?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Tim Hardy  wrote:
> 
> The major urban areas - NYC, Chicago are littered with them. Building to 
> building connecting brokerage firms, etc.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> 
>> Seems that a FSO product would be too short ranged for HFT folks. 
>>  
>> From: Daniel White
>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe
>>  
>> I forgot to mention a lot of their FSO products made it into HFT networks
>> 
>>  
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>   
>> 
>> Daniel White wrote on 5/6/19 19:30:
>>> Lightpointe is indeed very real.  I've met their Founder Heinz a handful of 
>>> times and he is incredibly smart.  Lightpointe was a major FSO company but 
>>> they have also OEM'd and designed millimeter-wave radios.
>>> 
>>> I've never cared for their design aesthetic, but have never questioned that 
>>> they do as advertised.  They did have a combo at one point that included 
>>> 5GHz failover on a Ubiquiti radio that was marked up significantly :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniel White
>>> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
>>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>>   
>>> 
>>> Ken Hohhof wrote on 5/6/19 14:34:
 Website and other stuff like this:  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffex9XleNlA  don’t seem nearly as lame as 
 I expected from the comments in this thread.  That doesn’t mean they’re 
 for real or their products are any good, but it seems to pass the 10 
 second smell test.
 
  
 
 I’ve seen lots of things that were more obviously fake or scams.  And yet 
 I’ve also seen people invest in them or buy them.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
 Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 2:41 PM
 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe
 
  
 
 If it wasn't sensitive before the install, it sure will be after.
 
  
 
 On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:39 PM castarritt  wrote:
 
 "Compact & aesthetic design for 'sensitive installations'"
 
  
 
 On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:30 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
 
 Lol @ that Airelink antenna. "We call this design... the donger".
 
  
 
 On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:19 PM Dan Spitler  wrote:
 
 They've been around a while, though I've never used anything of theirs. 
 Kind of hard to take a radio that looks like this 
 https://www.lightpointe.com/airelink-60.htmlseriously.
 
 Their 10G 60 GHz product looks like a Vubiq rebrand
 
  
 
 On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:56 AM Paul Conlin  
 wrote:
 
 Never heard of them before now. Lots of products. Their backhauls do 5G 
 and not just 4G!!! VERY cool. ;)
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Paul Conlin
 Blaze Broadband
 O: (540) 905-4049
 C: (540) 219-5176
 
  
 
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 Just received a flyer from LightPointe in the post.   Has anyone tried / 
 used LightPointe?
 
  
 
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Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe

2019-05-07 Thread Tim Hardy

The major urban areas - NYC, Chicago are littered with them. Building to 
building connecting brokerage firms, etc.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Seems that a FSO product would be too short ranged for HFT folks. 
>  
> From: Daniel White
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe
>  
> I forgot to mention a lot of their FSO products made it into HFT networks
> 
>   
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>   
> 
> Daniel White wrote on 5/6/19 19:30:
>> Lightpointe is indeed very real.  I've met their Founder Heinz a handful of 
>> times and he is incredibly smart.  Lightpointe was a major FSO company but 
>> they have also OEM'd and designed millimeter-wave radios.
>> 
>> I've never cared for their design aesthetic, but have never questioned that 
>> they do as advertised.  They did have a combo at one point that included 
>> 5GHz failover on a Ubiquiti radio that was marked up significantly :-)
>> 
>>  
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>   
>> 
>> Ken Hohhof wrote on 5/6/19 14:34:
>>> Website and other stuff like this:  
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffex9XleNlA  don’t seem nearly as lame as I 
>>> expected from the comments in this thread.  That doesn’t mean they’re for 
>>> real or their products are any good, but it seems to pass the 10 second 
>>> smell test.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’ve seen lots of things that were more obviously fake or scams.  And yet 
>>> I’ve also seen people invest in them or buy them.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
>>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 2:41 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LightPointe
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If it wasn't sensitive before the install, it sure will be after.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:39 PM castarritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Compact & aesthetic design for 'sensitive installations'"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:30 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lol @ that Airelink antenna. "We call this design... the donger".
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:19 PM Dan Spitler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They've been around a while, though I've never used anything of theirs. 
>>> Kind of hard to take a radio that looks like this 
>>> https://www.lightpointe.com/airelink-60.html seriously.
>>> 
>>> Their 10G 60 GHz product looks like a Vubiq rebrand
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:56 AM Paul Conlin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never heard of them before now. Lots of products. Their backhauls do 5G and 
>>> not just 4G!!! VERY cool. ;)
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Paul Conlin
>>> Blaze Broadband
>>> O: (540) 905-4049
>>> C: (540) 219-5176
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just received a flyer from LightPointe in the post.   Has anyone tried / 
>>> used LightPointe?
>>> 
>>>  
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