Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Steve Jones]

background checks on gun purchase are screwy, handguns seem to going
quickly, long guns are taking longer, mine still hasnt cleared from
thursday, none of the long guns have, my nieces from saturday on a handgun
already cleared. ammo.com has had a 68% surge in online purchases. the
pseudo quarantine announced today i expect to be voluntary until the
primaries are over


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I'm going to hold off a bit, but I might end up with some more of the
> individual stocks I have wanted to buy for a while.   I play the long game,
> and buy companies I don't expect to go away anytime soon.  There are going
> to be some really good values to buy over the next few weeks and months.
>
> -forrest
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:12 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Now might be a good time to buy.  If I had pre drop money I would buy
>> Tesla right now.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I'm now really really really glad I decided to wait to dump a big chunk
>> of change into the index funds.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately we all probably have customers who own or work at bars,
>>> restaurants, hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from school for
>>> the foreseeable future and they can’t find daycare.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How these people are going to pay their bills if they have no income
>>> (business or personal), I don’t know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Myself, I need this job, my 401K is toast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup
>>> or delivery
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I'm going to hold off a bit, but I might end up with some more of the
individual stocks I have wanted to buy for a while.   I play the long game,
and buy companies I don't expect to go away anytime soon.  There are going
to be some really good values to buy over the next few weeks and months.

-forrest

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:12 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Now might be a good time to buy.  If I had pre drop money I would buy
> Tesla right now.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm now really really really glad I decided to wait to dump a big chunk of
> change into the index funds.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately we all probably have customers who own or work at bars,
>> restaurants, hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from school for
>> the foreseeable future and they can’t find daycare.
>>
>>
>>
>> How these people are going to pay their bills if they have no income
>> (business or personal), I don’t know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Myself, I need this job, my 401K is toast.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
>>
>>
>>
>> Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup
>> or delivery
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM  wrote:
>>
>> You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Bill Prince]

We just got an order from the county health department. It is a 
bay-area-wide order affecting all 9 counties. They are essentially 
ordering a shelter in place exempting "essential services". The list of 
essential services is quite long. It includes getting groceries, medical 
supplies, medical services, and on and on. Restaurants and 
bars/taverns/wineries are considered non-essential, but restaurants are 
allowed to serve take-out only. Non-compliance is enforced by fine 
and/or jail time.



bp


On 3/16/2020 4:21 PM, Robert wrote:
What directing is the wind blowing?  First case is a pointer to up to 
50 infected not diagnosed according to the statistical dudes..


On 3/16/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of 
my house.


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On 3/16/20 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how 
remarkably resilient the broadband business is to something like 
this. People still want/need their internet service. There is some 
logistical issues for installers, but they're mostly young...




Well I got my first business customer affected by coronavirus call.
Offered them half price for 4 months and revisit it if we're still all
stuck inside. They're in the hospitality and event planning business
which has dropped to nothing and they had to lay off all but 2 people.






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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Heard a suggestion that it would be a good idea to re-balance
  your portfolio to take advantage of the dip. They did say to do it
  gradually, because no one knows where the bottom really is.


bp



On 3/16/2020 4:11 PM, Chuck McCown
  wrote:


  
  Now might be a good time to buy.  If I had pre drop money I would
  buy Tesla right now.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Forrest
  Christian (List Account)  wrote:
  

  
  

  I'm now really really really glad I decided to
wait to dump a big chunk of change into the index funds.  


  
  
  
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at
  1:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:


  

  Unfortunately we all probably
have customers who own or work at bars, restaurants,
hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from
school for the foreseeable future and they can’t
find daycare.
   
  How these people are going to pay
their bills if they have no income (business or
personal), I don’t know.
   
  Myself, I need this job, my 401K
is toast.
   
  https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16
   
   
  From: AF 
On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
   
  
Restaurant wouldnt be all that
  terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup or
  delivery
  
   
  

  On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20
PM 
wrote:


  

  

  You
  don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or
  airline...

  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Robert]

What directing is the wind blowing?  First case is a pointer to up to 50 
infected not diagnosed according to the statistical dudes..


On 3/16/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of my 
house.


-Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 1:59 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

On 3/16/20 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how 
remarkably resilient the broadband business is to something like 
this. People still want/need their internet service. There is some 
logistical issues for installers, but they're mostly young...




Well I got my first business customer affected by coronavirus call.
Offered them half price for 4 months and revisit it if we're still all
stuck inside. They're in the hospitality and event planning business
which has dropped to nothing and they had to lay off all but 2 people.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Robert]

I have a chart here somewhere that shows professions that are most 
likely to get it soonest.   Grocery Checker is way up there...


On 3/16/20 11:25 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

I wish I owned a grocery store or Dollar General.

ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...







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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Chuck McCown]

Now might be a good time to buy.  If I had pre drop money I would buy Tesla 
right now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm now really really really glad I decided to wait to dump a big chunk of 
> change into the index funds.  
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> Unfortunately we all probably have customers who own or work at bars, 
>> restaurants, hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from school for the 
>> foreseeable future and they can’t find daycare.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How these people are going to pay their bills if they have no income 
>> (business or personal), I don’t know.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Myself, I need this job, my 401K is toast.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup or 
>> delivery
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Chuck McCown]

He visited a family member that had it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:28 PM, James Howard  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did they say how/where he contracted it?
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:38 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
>  
> My county has its first case. The guy works about 5 miles South of my 
> house.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 1:59 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
> 
> On 3/16/20 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how remarkably 
> > resilient the broadband business is to something like this. People still 
> > want/need their internet service. There is some logistical issues for 
> > installers, but they're mostly young...
> >
> 
> Well I got my first business customer affected by coronavirus call.
> Offered them half price for 4 months and revisit it if we're still all
> stuck inside. They're in the hospitality and event planning business
> which has dropped to nothing and they had to lay off all but 2 people.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/20 3:52 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
Our county decided that bars/restaurants/gyms/etc will close.  
  Basically people congregate.


The restaurants/fast food places can stay open, but can't have anyone 
eating there.





For us (Reno) that means the casinos must shut down too, which is 
potentially a big deal for a lot of workers. Vegas already has several 
gaming properties close, but of their own choice.


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Re: [AFMUG] AGM battery question - noise while charging?

[TJ Trout]

generally on the elteks if you do not enable the charge limit and you get a
decent outage the LVD breaker will pop when the power is restored because
the rectifiers can push a bunch of power to the batts and trip the breaker,
imho

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:50 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You may be correct (although the previous batteries lasted 7+ years).  I
> thought maybe the Eltek system was doing an equalization charge, but it
> seem there is a "boost" charge that can be manual or automatic but both
> were disabled.  However there is a battery current limit which was not
> enabled.  I'm not sure if the 10A setting was automatically filled in based
> on the 33 Ah size of the string, but that would be 0.3C so probably about
> right.  I think on the battery case it says "initial current <9.9A".  In
> Zeus spec sheets I see 0.3C in one place and 0.25C in another.
>
> So maybe I should check the enable box.
>
> However, the system only has 2 rectifier modules plugged in, 250W each, so
> it shouldn't be capable of more than 10 amps anyway.  That's the other
> possible explanation of why the default seems to be 10A, maybe the Eltek
> software knows that's the max available.  And with the loads drawing almost
> 100W, the batteries shouldn't have been overcharged.
>
> Is 0.3C or 0.25C still too aggressive?  Should I enable the battery
> current limiting and set it to something lower like 5A?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:13 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AGM battery question - noise while charging?
>
> On 3/15/20 7:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Is it normal, or problematic, to replace AGM batteries and when you
> > connect the new ones to the charger (in this case an Eltek rectifier)
> > they make noise?
> >
> > Like a faint bubbling sound inside?  It's possible they have always
> > done this and I've never heard it in the past because my ear wasn't
> > within a foot of the batteries.
> >
>
>
> Too much charge current perhaps. You could try lowering it. The controller
> should have a way to limit current. If there isn't a current monitor on the
> battery leg set the controller's current limit to your normal load +
> whatever the battery datasheet says the maximum charge current should be.
> Of course then you will have to make sure to adjust this if you add/remove
> equipment.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Our county decided that bars/restaurants/gyms/etc will close.   Basically
people congregate.

The restaurants/fast food places can stay open, but can't have anyone
eating there.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 4:45 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 3/16/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of my
> > house.
>
>
> Mayor here just said all "non essential" businesses must close by 10am
> tomorrow.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Ken Hohhof]

I saw something about an 8pm curfew in NJ.  I don't like the word curfew.  
Apparently only essential businesses, but grocery stores qualify as essential.

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On 3/16/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of my 
> house.


Mayor here just said all "non essential" businesses must close by 10am tomorrow.

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[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/20 2:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of my 
house.



Mayor here just said all "non essential" businesses must close by 10am 
tomorrow.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I'm now really really really glad I decided to wait to dump a big chunk of
change into the index funds.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Unfortunately we all probably have customers who own or work at bars,
> restaurants, hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from school for
> the foreseeable future and they can’t find daycare.
>
>
>
> How these people are going to pay their bills if they have no income
> (business or personal), I don’t know.
>
>
>
> Myself, I need this job, my 401K is toast.
>
>
>
> https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad
>
>
>
> Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup
> or delivery
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM  wrote:
>
> You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[James Howard]

Did they say how/where he contracted it?

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

My county has its first case. The guy works about 5 miles South of my
house.

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To: af@af.afmug.com
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On 3/16/20 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how remarkably
> resilient the broadband business is to something like this. People still
> want/need their internet service. There is some logistical issues for
> installers, but they're mostly young...
>

Well I got my first business customer affected by coronavirus call.
Offered them half price for 4 months and revisit it if we're still all
stuck inside. They're in the hospitality and event planning business
which has dropped to nothing and they had to lay off all but 2 people.

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[chuck]

My county has its first case.  The guy works about 5 miles South of my 
house.


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From: Seth Mattinen

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I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how remarkably 
resilient the broadband business is to something like this. People still 
want/need their internet service. There is some logistical issues for 
installers, but they're mostly young...




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[AFMUG] looking for contacts with Crown Castle and American Tower

[Rory Conaway]

If anyone has a contact number that I can talk to today, I'd appreciate it.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

" Losers live in the past. Winners learn from the past and enjoy working in the 
present toward the future."

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Craig House]

We really have reached the point with articles like this that make me think the 
Babylon be is closer to reality than real news. Before all of this started I 
was thinking that already with regard to political satire. But the line between 
satire and reality has become very blurred in the last few months And days

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 14:54, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> It’s pretty bad when ISIS says you’re too risky.
> https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-tells-its-terrorists-not-to-travel-to-europe
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:40 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers
>  
> By now haven't we determined that total infected isn't a meaningful 
> statistic? Isn't it much more useful to know the infected at-risk population?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Bill Prince" 
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 8:18:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers
> 
> The "other locations" just passed the mainland China numbers today. Testing 
> has not really started in the US; reports are that we are 10-12 days after 
> the Italy numbers.  Hard to make a real gauge of this until testing actually 
> starts here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 3/15/2020 5:39 PM, Robert wrote:
> If we stay on the curve ( we are currently on it from the start ), then we 
> are 7 days away from national lock down of travel outside our domiciles.
> 
> On 3/15/20 4:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> While i still consider the virus a minimal issue, if there is going to be a 
> response, it needs to be a full response. You wont often hear this from me, 
> but prickster is on point here. The federal administration has met with the 
> retailers to address the hoarding issue, so that should resolve in the coming 
> week. I personally think they should limit domestic travel. If youre going to 
> do something, then do something, not a half measure. There is the added 
> benefit of bringing about the end of the flu season early
>  
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> He appeared to at one point to chastise the throngs of St. Patrick’s Day 
> revelers seen drinking and partying in Chicago bars and crowds along streets 
> over the weekend.
> “I tried earlier this week to appeal to everyone’s good judgment, to stay 
> home from bars, not to congregate in crowds,” he said. "It’s unfortunate that 
> many people didn’t take that seriously. The time for persuasion and public 
> appeals is over. The time for action is here. This is not a joke. No one is 
> immune to this. And you have an obligation to act in the best interests of 
> all the people of this state.”
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:03 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers
>  
> Now the hoarding will really start.  
> 
> Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30.  People are 
> going to starve.  
> 
> Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate. 
> 
> So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining area?  
> What about the Subway in the Gas Station
> 
> On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it 
> will be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70 that 
> the statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a male, 
> or a smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few others 
> things will be worse.
> 
>  
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all of 
> you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks. 
> We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our 
> communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans 
> for dealing with customers.
> My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated camper) 
> if it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu rampage. I 
> have resources ready for my people, and some excess for others in need.
> I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to frenzy 
> us with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The resilience of the 
> average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response make it more than 
> manageable.
>  
>  
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
> Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt.
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> I can tell you're joking because you said "clips".
> 
> Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS.
> 
> On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> Ammo running thin here. I've had to chase off a couple dozen thieves trying 
> to get at my TP stash. So far I'm winning, 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/20 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how remarkably 
resilient the broadband business is to something like this. People still 
want/need their internet service. There is some logistical issues for 
installers, but they're mostly young...




Well I got my first business customer affected by coronavirus call. 
Offered them half price for 4 months and revisit it if we're still all 
stuck inside. They're in the hospitality and event planning business 
which has dropped to nothing and they had to lay off all but 2 people.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Jason McKemie]

It sounds like it could get messy since they have possible revocation of
your liquor license to hang over your head.

On Monday, March 16, 2020, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Also, there is not yet an executive order on this, so it may all just be
> bluster. If you know anyone with a bar or restaurant, advise them to talk
> to their attorney before closing.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Nate Burke" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:02:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers
>
> Now the hoarding will really start.
>
> Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30.  People are
> going to starve.
>
> Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate.
>
> So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining
> area?  What about the Subway in the Gas Station
>
> On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it
> will be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70
> that the statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a
> male, or a smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few
> others things will be worse.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all
> of you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks.
> We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our
> communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans
> for dealing with customers.
> My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated
> camper) if it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu
> rampage. I have resources ready for my people, and some excess for others
> in need.
> I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to
> frenzy us with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The
> resilience of the average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response
> make it more than manageable.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you're joking because you said "clips".
>>
>> Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS.
>> On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> Ammo running thin here. I've had to chase off a couple dozen thieves
>> trying to get at my TP stash. So far I'm winning, but I'm down to my last
>> dozen extended clips.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/2020 3:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> It may be that the workers get off around 4 or 5 and put pressure into
>> the retail as they all rush it. Maybe all we needed was a weekend. Ammo is
>> starting to get thin on the shelves, but that's just because ammo
>> deliveries haven't changed volumes yet.
>> I'm heading to the grocery store here in a bit, I heard they got fed up
>> and started limiting volume. It's sad when people are so dumb that stock
>> boys have to parent them
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 5:36 PM Mathew Howard < 
>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Things seem to have calmed down a bit today... I didn't go to any
>>> grocery stores, but I went to Mendards, and I'd say there was roughly a
>>> quarter as many people on there as on a typical Saturday, and there was
>>> very little traffic on the streets for a Saturday. I think we must be too
>>> the point where everybody is done hoarding toilet paper and they all went
>>> home to hide... or perhaps they just knew the toilet paper was all gone
>>> everywhere...
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:56 PM Bill Prince < 
>>> part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 bp
 


 On 3/14/2020 12:01 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

 People are getting serious, took the neice to buy a 9mm  today and
 people are buying guns 2 and 3 at a time. The toilet paper sales are
 dropping at that store and more actual necessities, long term foods, dry
 goods, etc are starting to move. Maybe people are beginning to calm their
 tits. Or they just have more toilet paper than they know what to do with
 and are starting to realize they're hungry. People ought to consider heavy
 mil contractor bags, visqueen and duct 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Ken Hohhof]

It’s pretty bad when ISIS says you’re too risky.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-tells-its-terrorists-not-to-travel-to-europe

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

 

By now haven't we determined that total infected isn't a meaningful statistic? 
Isn't it much more useful to know the infected at-risk population?



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 8:18:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

The "other locations" just passed the mainland China numbers today. Testing has 
not really started in the US; reports are that we are 10-12 days after the 
Italy numbers.  Hard to make a real gauge of this until testing actually starts 
here.



bp

 

On 3/15/2020 5:39 PM, Robert wrote:

If we stay on the curve ( we are currently on it from the start ), then we are 
7 days away from national lock down of travel outside our domiciles.

On 3/15/20 4:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

While i still consider the virus a minimal issue, if there is going to be a 
response, it needs to be a full response. You wont often hear this from me, but 
prickster is on point here. The federal administration has met with the 
retailers to address the hoarding issue, so that should resolve in the coming 
week. I personally think they should limit domestic travel. If youre going to 
do something, then do something, not a half measure. There is the added benefit 
of bringing about the end of the flu season early

 

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

He appeared to at one point to chastise the throngs of St. Patrick’s Day 
revelers seen drinking and partying in Chicago bars and crowds along streets 
over the weekend.

“I tried earlier this week to appeal to everyone’s good judgment, to stay home 
from bars, not to congregate in crowds,” he said. "It’s unfortunate that many 
people didn’t take that seriously. The time for persuasion and public appeals 
is over. The time for action is here. This is not a joke. No one is immune to 
this. And you have an obligation to act in the best interests of all the people 
of this state.” 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Nate Burke
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

 

Now the hoarding will really start.  

Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30.  People are going 
to starve.  

Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate. 

So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining area?  
What about the Subway in the Gas Station

On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it will 
be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70 that the 
statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a male, or a 
smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few others things 
will be worse.

 

bp

 

On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all of 
you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks.  

We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our 
communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans for 
dealing with customers.

My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated camper) if 
it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu rampage. I have 
resources ready for my people, and some excess for others in need.

I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to frenzy us 
with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The resilience of the 
average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response make it more than 
manageable.

 

 

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt.

bp

 

On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I can tell you're joking because you said "clips".

Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS.

On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Ammo running t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Mike Hammett]

By now haven't we determined that total infected isn't a meaningful statistic? 
Isn't it much more useful to know the infected at-risk population? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 8:18:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers 


The "other locations" just passed the mainland China numbers today. Testing has 
not really started in the US; reports are that we are 10-12 days after the 
Italy numbers. Hard to make a real gauge of this until testing actually starts 
here. 
bp
 
On 3/15/2020 5:39 PM, Robert wrote: 


If we stay on the curve ( we are currently on it from the start ), then we are 
7 days away from national lock down of travel outside our domiciles. 


On 3/15/20 4:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



While i still consider the virus a minimal issue, if there is going to be a 
response, it needs to be a full response. You wont often hear this from me, but 
prickster is on point here. The federal administration has met with the 
retailers to address the hoarding issue, so that should resolve in the coming 
week. I personally think they should limit domestic travel. If youre going to 
do something, then do something, not a half measure. There is the added benefit 
of bringing about the end of the flu season early 


On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: 





He appeared to at one point to chastise the throngs of St. Patrick’s Day 
revelers seen drinking and partying in Chicago bars and crowds along streets 
over the weekend. 
“I tried earlier this week to appeal to everyone’s good judgment, to stay home 
from bars, not to congregate in crowds,” he said. "It’s unfortunate that many 
people didn’t take that seriously. The time for persuasion and public appeals 
is over. The time for action is here. This is not a joke. No one is immune to 
this. And you have an obligation to act in the best interests of all the people 
of this state.” 




From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:03 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers 

Now the hoarding will really start. 

Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30. People are going 
to starve. 

Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate. 

So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining area? 
What about the Subway in the Gas Station 

On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 


Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it will 
be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70 that the 
statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a male, or a 
smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few others things 
will be worse. 
bp  

On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all of 
you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks. 

We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our 
communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans for 
dealing with customers. 

My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated camper) if 
it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu rampage. I have 
resources ready for my people, and some excess for others in need. 

I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to frenzy us 
with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The resilience of the 
average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response make it more than 
manageable. 





On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt. bp 
 

On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 


I can tell you're joking because you said "clips". 
Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS. 

On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 


Ammo running thin here. I've had to chase off a couple dozen thieves trying to 
get at my TP stash. So far I'm winning, but I'm down to my last dozen extended 
clips. 
bp  

On 3/14/2020 3:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



It may be that the workers get off around 4 or 5 and put pressure into the 
retail as they all rush it. Maybe all we needed was a weekend. Ammo is starting 
to get thin on the shelves, but that's just because ammo deliveries haven't 
changed volumes yet. 

I'm heading to the grocery store here in a bit, I heard they got fed up and 
started limiting volume. It's sad when people are so dumb that stock boys have 
to parent them 



On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 5:36 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Things seem to have calmed down a bit today... I didn't go to any grocery 
stores, but I went to Mendards, and I'd say there was roughl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Mike Hammett]

Also, there is not yet an executive order on this, so it may all just be 
bluster. If you know anyone with a bar or restaurant, advise them to talk to 
their attorney before closing. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:02:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers 

Now the hoarding will really start. 

Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30. People are going 
to starve. 

Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate. 

So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining area? 
What about the Subway in the Gas Station 


On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 



Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it will 
be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70 that the 
statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a male, or a 
smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few others things 
will be worse. 

bp
 
On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all of 
you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks. 
We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our 
communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans for 
dealing with customers. 
My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated camper) if 
it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu rampage. I have 
resources ready for my people, and some excess for others in need. 
I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to frenzy us 
with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The resilience of the 
average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response make it more than 
manageable. 




On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt. 
bp
 
On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



I can tell you're joking because you said "clips". 
Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS. 

On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 



Ammo running thin here. I've had to chase off a couple dozen thieves trying to 
get at my TP stash. So far I'm winning, but I'm down to my last dozen extended 
clips. 

bp
 
On 3/14/2020 3:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



It may be that the workers get off around 4 or 5 and put pressure into the 
retail as they all rush it. Maybe all we needed was a weekend. Ammo is starting 
to get thin on the shelves, but that's just because ammo deliveries haven't 
changed volumes yet. 
I'm heading to the grocery store here in a bit, I heard they got fed up and 
started limiting volume. It's sad when people are so dumb that stock boys have 
to parent them 


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 5:36 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Things seem to have calmed down a bit today... I didn't go to any grocery 
stores, but I went to Mendards, and I'd say there was roughly a quarter as many 
people on there as on a typical Saturday, and there was very little traffic on 
the streets for a Saturday. I think we must be too the point where everybody is 
done hoarding toilet paper and they all went home to hide... or perhaps they 
just knew the toilet paper was all gone everywhere... 


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:56 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



bp
 
On 3/14/2020 12:01 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



People are getting serious, took the neice to buy a 9mm today and people are 
buying guns 2 and 3 at a time. The toilet paper sales are dropping at that 
store and more actual necessities, long term foods, dry goods, etc are starting 
to move. Maybe people are beginning to calm their tits. Or they just have more 
toilet paper than they know what to do with and are starting to realize they're 
hungry. People ought to consider heavy mil contractor bags, visqueen and duct 
tape, cause the coroner won't be doing house calls. 
It sucks that if this goes sideways that the elderly are the impacted. Those 
are the ones with the know how to get by. Half our population doesn't even know 
how to make a ham sandwich 





On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 1:49 PM Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 



Our store last night was completely out of Bananas, but had all the other fresh 
fruit/veggies. 

I was also surprised at the number of people taking pictures of the empty 
toilet paper shelves, not quite sure who they would share them with. Or in 50 
years they can tell their grandkids as they're forcing them to sit through 
watching their 8 billion pictures 'Remember back in '20 we had that virus scare 
and people went crazy' 


On 3/14/2020 1:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 



A local Trader Joe's yesterday. 
bp
 
On 3/14/2020 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 




I won’t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

[Mike Hammett]

Seems like a temper tantrum. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:25:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers 



He appeared to at one point to chastise the throngs of St. Patrick’s Day 
revelers seen drinking and partying in Chicago bars and crowds along streets 
over the weekend. 
“I tried earlier this week to appeal to everyone’s good judgment, to stay home 
from bars, not to congregate in crowds,” he said. "It’s unfortunate that many 
people didn’t take that seriously. The time for persuasion and public appeals 
is over. The time for action is here. This is not a joke. No one is immune to 
this. And you have an obligation to act in the best interests of all the people 
of this state.” 




From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 4:03 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers 

Now the hoarding will really start. 

Illinois just closed all restaurants and Bars until March 30. People are going 
to starve. 

Drive-through and Curbside Pickup can still operate. 

So Can I still go grab my Little Caesars pizza since there's no dining area? 
What about the Subway in the Gas Station 

On 3/15/2020 12:20 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 


Children under 6 will see almost nothing. For people between 6 and 50, it will 
be largely like the flu. It's not until you get over 50, 60, or 70 that the 
statistics (that we have so far) start to look scary. If you are a male, or a 
smoker, or have other conditions like diabetes, COPD, and a few others things 
will be worse. 
bp  

On 3/14/2020 7:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



In all seriousness, and even with the amount of shit I talk. I do hope all of 
you are prepared, both in your family lives and in your networks. 

We are working on contingencies, particularly in continuity for our 
communities. Our staff is as protected as can reasonably be. We have plans for 
dealing with customers. 

My home is as ready as reasonable. I even have a quarantine (heated camper) if 
it comes to it to isolate my babies from the inevitable flu rampage. I have 
resources ready for my people, and some excess for others in need. 

I still think this is not the end of the world the media is trying to frenzy us 
with. I'm satisfied with our government's response. The resilience of the 
average American is unmatched, so the hiccups in response make it more than 
manageable. 





On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 8:10 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Three syllables are too much to type. Ouch. That hurt. bp 
 

On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 


I can tell you're joking because you said "clips". 
Unless you have an M1 Garand or an SKS. 

On 3/14/2020 8:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 


Ammo running thin here. I've had to chase off a couple dozen thieves trying to 
get at my TP stash. So far I'm winning, but I'm down to my last dozen extended 
clips. 
bp  

On 3/14/2020 3:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



It may be that the workers get off around 4 or 5 and put pressure into the 
retail as they all rush it. Maybe all we needed was a weekend. Ammo is starting 
to get thin on the shelves, but that's just because ammo deliveries haven't 
changed volumes yet. 

I'm heading to the grocery store here in a bit, I heard they got fed up and 
started limiting volume. It's sad when people are so dumb that stock boys have 
to parent them 



On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 5:36 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Things seem to have calmed down a bit today... I didn't go to any grocery 
stores, but I went to Mendards, and I'd say there was roughly a quarter as many 
people on there as on a typical Saturday, and there was very little traffic on 
the streets for a Saturday. I think we must be too the point where everybody is 
done hoarding toilet paper and they all went home to hide... or perhaps they 
just knew the toilet paper was all gone everywhere... 



On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:56 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



bp  

On 3/14/2020 12:01 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



People are getting serious, took the neice to buy a 9mm today and people are 
buying guns 2 and 3 at a time. The toilet paper sales are dropping at that 
store and more actual necessities, long term foods, dry goods, etc are starting 
to move. Maybe people are beginning to calm their tits. Or they just have more 
toilet paper than they know what to do with and are starting to realize they're 
hungry. People ought to consider heavy mil contractor bags, visqueen and duct 
tape, cause the coroner won't be doing house calls. 

It sucks that if this goes sideways that the elderly are the impacted. Those 
are the ones with the know how to get by. Half our population doesn't even know 
how to make a ham sandwich 





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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Steve Jones]

make sure you have company ID badges. If they were to quarantine and exempt
telecom workers, it will probably require company ID

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:06 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how remarkably
> resilient the broadband business is to something like this. People still
> want/need their internet service. There is some logistical issues for
> installers, but they're mostly young...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/16/2020 11:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Ken Hohhof]

Unfortunately we all probably have customers who own or work at bars, 
restaurants, hotels or airlines.  Or whose kids are home from school for the 
foreseeable future and they can’t find daycare.

 

How these people are going to pay their bills if they have no income (business 
or personal), I don’t know.

 

Myself, I need this job, my 401K is toast.

 

https://www.gocomics.com/rabbitsagainstmagic/2020/03/16

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 1:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

 

Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup or 
delivery

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I was going to comment on the corollary to this, which is how
  remarkably resilient the broadband business is to something like
  this. People still want/need their internet service. There is some
  logistical issues for installers, but they're mostly young...
 

bp



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  You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah... people still need to eat, and who wants to go into a grocery
store...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup
> or delivery
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM  wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] VoIP QoS on Ubiquiti

[Adam Moffett]

Good info.  Thanks.

On 3/16/2020 2:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


You need to make sure the customer VoIP device and also their wireless 
router is passing the correct DSCP value to the radio.


I also don’t think the DSCP values coming in from the internet are 
still tagged, so they need to be identified somehow and tagged within 
your own network and down the UBNT radio to the customer wireless router.


The typical values are 26-27, 46-55 which in UBNT land should be 
automatically set to High Priority.


So really, nothing to do on the radio equipment side with UBNT if you 
are already using those ranges for VoIP.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Dan Spitler
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You'll still need to set TOS/DSCP: 
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205231750-airMAX-QoS-and-Prioritization#2


On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:56 PM Timothy Steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:


VOIP traffic shaping is baked into the AirMax Protocol

with LTU I would think its the same but be sure you are on the
latest beta as they just added traffic shaping to LTU

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does Ubiquiti wireless equipment have any means to prioritize
VoIP traffic?

I'm playing with LTU.  It seems promising, but I'm not finding
any info
on their QoS implementationif there even is one.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Steve Jones]

Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup or
delivery

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

[Jay Weekley]

I wish I owned a grocery store or Dollar General.

ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

You don’t own a bar, restaurant, hotel or airline...




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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Sean Heskett]

Yes it does!

-Sean


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] VoIP QoS on Ubiquiti

[Sterling Jacobson]

You need to make sure the customer VoIP device and also their wireless router 
is passing the correct DSCP value to the radio.
I also don’t think the DSCP values coming in from the internet are still 
tagged, so they need to be identified somehow and tagged within your own 
network and down the UBNT radio to the customer wireless router.

The typical values are 26-27, 46-55 which in UBNT land should be automatically 
set to High Priority.
So really, nothing to do on the radio equipment side with UBNT if you are 
already using those ranges for VoIP.



From: AF  On Behalf Of Dan Spitler
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:27 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP QoS on Ubiquiti

You'll still need to set TOS/DSCP: 
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205231750-airMAX-QoS-and-Prioritization#2

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:56 PM Timothy Steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:
VOIP traffic shaping is baked into the AirMax Protocol

with LTU I would think its the same but be sure you are on the latest beta as 
they just added traffic shaping to LTU

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 AM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Does Ubiquiti wireless equipment have any means to prioritize VoIP traffic?

I'm playing with LTU.  It seems promising, but I'm not finding any info
on their QoS implementationif there even is one.



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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/20 11:08 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Nah... nobody is going to believe that. We already know that 5G is going 
to kill everybody... or at least turn people into mindless zombies.



That's why you gotta drink bleach to protect yourself.

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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Mathew Howard]

Nah... nobody is going to believe that. We already know that 5G is going to
kill everybody... or at least turn people into mindless zombies.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:18 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Put out an article that says 5G CURES the virus. Only people with fixed
> wireless broadband have a fighting chance
> against the virus.
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:11 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/20 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > https://www.howtogeek.com/662454/no-5g-does-not-cause-coronavirus/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> These people need to hook up with the people that believe drinking
>> bleach will protect you.
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Re: [AFMUG] VoIP QoS on Ubiquiti

[Dan Spitler]

You'll still need to set TOS/DSCP:
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205231750-airMAX-QoS-and-Prioritization#2

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:56 PM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> VOIP traffic shaping is baked into the AirMax Protocol
>
> with LTU I would think its the same but be sure you are on the latest beta
> as they just added traffic shaping to LTU
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Does Ubiquiti wireless equipment have any means to prioritize VoIP
>> traffic?
>>
>> I'm playing with LTU.  It seems promising, but I'm not finding any info
>> on their QoS implementationif there even is one.
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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[can...@believewireless.net]

Put out an article that says 5G CURES the virus. Only people with fixed
wireless broadband have a fighting chance
against the virus.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:11 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 3/16/20 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > https://www.howtogeek.com/662454/no-5g-does-not-cause-coronavirus/
> >
> >
>
>
> These people need to hook up with the people that believe drinking
> bleach will protect you.
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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/20 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

https://www.howtogeek.com/662454/no-5g-does-not-cause-coronavirus/





These people need to hook up with the people that believe drinking 
bleach will protect you.


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Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Jason McKemie]

Wow.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:47 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

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[AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

[Ken Hohhof]

https://www.howtogeek.com/662454/no-5g-does-not-cause-coronavirus/

 

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Re: [AFMUG] School only wifi hotspots

[Louis Arsenault]

Get a local cellphone carrier to donate hotspots with unlimited data for a
month? Then distribute them where needed.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 9:40 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Our state closed all schools
> I don't know a ton about the elearning for grade school and high school.
> But is like to talk the boss into dropping wifi hotspots where we can for
> public access. I just don't want it abused. Our school districts here are
> having students come in monday for elearning instructions... not parents.
> So a bunch of kids will be relaying how tos.
> It will be a disaster.
> A lot of kids don't have internet. Library's will probably be closed or
> parents won't want their kids at the disease keyboards and chairs.
> I assume there will be some unregulated funding that will get abused and
> not actually get anything accomplished.
> I asked the superintendents to have their IT teams turn up outdoor wifi at
> the school parking lots. But those are IT morons.
> How would a guy get something set up at our POPs on the cheap for car
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Re: [AFMUG] AGM battery question - noise while charging?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/15/20 7:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Is it normal, or problematic, to replace AGM batteries and when you 
connect the new ones to the charger (in this case an Eltek rectifier) 
they make noise?


Like a faint bubbling sound inside?  It's possible they have always done 
this and I've never heard it in the past because my ear wasn't within a 
foot of the batteries.





Too much charge current perhaps. You could try lowering it. The 
controller should have a way to limit current. If there isn't a current 
monitor on the battery leg set the controller's current limit to your 
normal load + whatever the battery datasheet says the maximum charge 
current should be. Of course then you will have to make sure to adjust 
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Re: [AFMUG] AGM battery question - noise while charging?

[Josh Luthman]

I had some of the super cheap 100ah batteries sound like they were boiling
when I plugged in the charger.  The ink right on them said whatever voltage
to apply to (if floating, there's another voltage for cycles) so I have to
assume it's right.

I don't believe they've even left float voltage in the last year, so all I
can say is that they're still sitting there.

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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:34 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I've heard hissing when I definitely was overcharging, but I never noticed
> hissing in normal operation.
>
>
> On 3/15/2020 10:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Is it normal, or problematic, to replace AGM batteries and when you
> connect the new ones to the charger (in this case an Eltek rectifier) they
> make noise?
>
> Like a faint bubbling sound inside?  It's possible they have always done
> this and I've never heard it in the past because my ear wasn't within a
> foot of the batteries.
>
>
>
> Am I gonna have a boom?
>
>
>
> BTW, I was wrong, the Zeus batteries are made in Vietnam now, at least
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Re: [AFMUG] AGM battery question - noise while charging?

[Adam Moffett]

I've heard hissing when I definitely was overcharging, but I never 
noticed hissing in normal operation.



On 3/15/2020 10:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Is it normal, or problematic, to replace AGM batteries and when you 
connect the new ones to the charger (in this case an Eltek rectifier) 
they make noise?


Like a faint bubbling sound inside? It's possible they have always 
done this and I've never heard it in the past because my ear wasn't 
within a foot of the batteries.


Am I gonna have a boom?

BTW, I was wrong, the Zeus batteries are made in Vietnam now, at least 
these were.



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