Re: [AFMUG] OT Thanks Lewis!

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I don't know who the current guide provider is, but Channel
  Master has had issues in the past. It used to say down at the
  bottom of the program guide who the provider was.


bp



On 7/23/2020 8:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  That Channel Master OTA receiver works fantastic!  I
wonder where it gets the data for the on screen guide?

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Chuck McCown]

I would call that throughput.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> 
> I always thought of speed as the latency as I was taught in the golden age of 
> X.25 host LOL!
> 
> Capacity is the measure of how much can we send at one time with that same 
> latency.
> 
> Am I wrong on this??
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/23/2020 2:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> So true.
>>  
>> Of course a couple days ago I had a customer all worried because her 
>> Internet was SO SLOW compared to what she should have.  She works for Blue 
>> Cross / Blue Shield and was applying to work from home and they told her to 
>> go to speedtest.net and then gave her a screenshot of how to share her 
>> results.  The screenshot showed a download speed of 91 Mbps.  She 
>> interpreted it as that’s what she should have.  She is currently on a 10 
>> Mbps plan and thought OMG I only have one tenth of what I should have and 
>> I’ll never be able to work from home.
>>  
>> And IT people can be a pain in the butt.  Maybe there should also be an IT 
>> to English dictionary.
>>  
>> 1 Gbps = fast
>> 100 Mbps = barely adequate
>> 10 Mbps = slower than dialup
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 2:00 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary
>>  
>> I feel the same way about the word "speed", and by extension the word "slow".
>> 
>> It's partly our own fault for calling "bits per second" a "speed" starting 
>> back in the 90's.  "Oh you've only got a speed of 10Mbps?  That must be why 
>> it's slow. "
>> 
>> The thing a customer actually cares about in terms of speed is that when 
>> they click a link, buy a PS4 game, and so on that, that the the result of 
>> whatever they initiated comes quickly.  The way people use the term, "Speed" 
>> of the network is more like how much work was performed over time, and bps 
>> plays a role in that (especially downloading the PS4 game), but every single 
>> thing between the user and the server plays a role in that too.  Even 
>> excluding the things outside of our control, the perceived "speed" is 
>> impacted by buffers, queues, QoS, latency, jitter, and so on. 
>> 
>> So this "customer to english" translation is the inverse of the problem 
>> where all boxes with blinky lights get a random name.  All problems 
>> impacting completion of tasks are called "slow speeds".
>> 
>> "slow service" = jitter in my online game
>> 
>> "slow service" = my wifi signal sucks
>> 
>> "slow service" = Facebook is down
>> 
>> "slow service" = An App Store download on my Dad's iPad is stuck at 58 out 
>> of 130MB and won't go past that.
>> 
>> "slow service" = My VoIP call is breaking up
>> 
>> "slow service" = speedtest.net says I get 9.2Mbps, but I pay for 10Mbps. And 
>> really that's irrelevant, what I'm really calling about is my work VPN won't 
>> connect because I have a 1492 byte MTU and their Sonicwall drops PMTUD 
>> packets, but the first thing I do for any problem is run speedtest.net and 
>> then report whatever's wrong as slow service.
>> 
>> Then when they tell you service is "slow" and you seek clarification about 
>> what's not working or what's being slow for them they think you're arguing 
>> about it.  Really they're making such a general statement that you have no 
>> idea what to even look for yet.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 7/23/2020 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> “Signal” and “Connection” are two of the most problematic words as far as 
>> not meaning the same thing to customers as to tech support people.
>>  
>> Like if customer says I have no signal, I figure they must be talking about 
>> no WiFi signal because they specifically used the word signal.  But often 
>> they are using the word “signal” to mean “Internet”.  So if Facebook or 
>> Netflix doesn’t work, they have no signal.
>>  
>> Then there are the people who complain they only have 1 bar of signal so we 
>> need to come out and adjust their antenna.  But they are looking at the 
>> Ethernet port lights on the router and thinking those are WiFi bars.  This 
>> happens a lot with Mikrotiks which have the 1-5 LEDs on top.
>>  
>> Same with the word connection.  I have no connection, I can’t get connected. 
>>  Is their device telling them no connections are available?  Like when they 
>> same I’m not on my phone.  What does it mean to be “on” your phone?
>>  
>> At least Internet Explorer is pretty much gone.  People used to tell us they 
>> were clicking on “the Internet”, I think usually they meant Internet 
>> Explorer.  Now they say they use Google, and we’re not sure if they mean 
>> Chrome, or they are searching with Google (many people don’t know how to 
>> enter a web address).
>>  
>> Then there’s “I am trying to log onto the Internet”.  Wait, are you entering 
>> login credentials like a username and password?  Is this your Windows login? 
>>  Gmail?  Often they don’t really mean log in, just do something, like go to 
>> a webpage

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Dave]

I always thought of speed as the latency as I was taught in the golden 
age of X.25 host LOL!


Capacity is the measure of how much can we send at one time with that 
same latency.


Am I wrong on this??


On 7/23/2020 2:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


So true.

Of course a couple days ago I had a customer all worried because her 
Internet was SO SLOW compared to what she should have.  She works for 
Blue Cross / Blue Shield and was applying to work from home and they 
told her to go to speedtest.net and then gave her a screenshot of how 
to share her results.  The screenshot showed a download speed of 91 
Mbps.  She interpreted it as that’s what she should have. She is 
currently on a 10 Mbps plan and thought OMG I only have one tenth of 
what I should have and I’ll never be able to work from home.


And IT people can be a pain in the butt. Maybe there should also be an 
IT to English dictionary.


1 Gbps = fast

100 Mbps = barely adequate

10 Mbps = slower than dialup

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 2:00 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

I feel the same way about the word "speed", and by extension the word 
"slow".


It's partly our own fault for calling "bits per second" a "speed" 
starting back in the 90's.  "Oh you've only got a speed of 10Mbps?  
That must be why it's slow. "


The thing a customer actually cares about in terms of speed is that 
when they click a link, buy a PS4 game, and so on that, that the the 
result of whatever they initiated comes quickly.  The way people use 
the term, "Speed" of the network is more like how much work was 
performed over time, and bps plays a role in that (especially 
downloading the PS4 game), but every single thing between the user and 
the server plays a role in that too.  Even excluding the things 
outside of our control, the perceived "speed" is impacted by buffers, 
queues, QoS, latency, jitter, and so on.


So this "customer to english" translation is the inverse of the 
problem where all boxes with blinky lights get a random name.  All 
problems impacting completion of tasks are called "slow speeds".


"slow service" = jitter in my online game

"slow service" = my wifi signal sucks

"slow service" = Facebook is down

"slow service" = An App Store download on my Dad's iPad is stuck at 58 
out of 130MB and won't go past that.


"slow service" = My VoIP call is breaking up

"slow service" = speedtest.net says I get 9.2Mbps, but I pay for 
10Mbps. And really that's irrelevant, what I'm really calling about is 
my work VPN won't connect because I have a 1492 byte MTU and their 
Sonicwall drops PMTUD packets, but the first thing I do for any 
problem is run speedtest.net and then report whatever's wrong as slow 
service.


Then when they tell you service is "slow" and you seek clarification 
about what's not working or what's being slow for them they think 
you're arguing about it.  Really they're making such a general 
statement that you have no idea what to even look for yet.


On 7/23/2020 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

“Signal” and “Connection” are two of the most problematic words as
far as not meaning the same thing to customers as to tech support
people.

Like if customer says I have no signal, I figure they must be
talking about no WiFi signal because they specifically used the
word signal.  But often they are using the word “signal” to mean
“Internet”.  So if Facebook or Netflix doesn’t work, they have no
signal.

Then there are the people who complain they only have 1 bar of
signal so we need to come out and adjust their antenna.  But they
are looking at the Ethernet port lights on the router and thinking
those are WiFi bars. This happens a lot with Mikrotiks which have
the 1-5 LEDs on top.

Same with the word connection.  I have no connection, I can’t get
connected.  Is their device telling them no connections are
available?  Like when they same I’m not on my phone.  What does it
mean to be “on” your phone?

At least Internet Explorer is pretty much gone.  People used to
tell us they were clicking on “the Internet”, I think usually they
meant Internet Explorer. Now they say they use Google, and we’re
not sure if they mean Chrome, or they are searching with Google
(many people don’t know how to enter a web address).

Then there’s “I am trying to log onto the Internet”.  Wait, are
you entering login credentials like a username and password?  Is
this your Windows login?  Gmail? Often they don’t really mean log
in, just do something, like go to a webpage.  So

Log in = do something

Don’t get me going on the symbols on home routers.  The sparkler
is on, the tadpole is off …

*From:* AF 
 *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:33 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Dave]

My fave is

We are down AGAIN!

Tech arrives to find roofers using flame throwers to seal the flat roof 
with new rubberized roof.


Cable Melted into roof.. hmm this should allow for optimal service :)


On 7/23/2020 10:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming 
patterns until an hour ago.


'I don't know why the radio is offline' = 
Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.


'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed

On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
"The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific 
(blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just 
not that one site.


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


"I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are
watching 2 video streams each

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.

Also

Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
behind a tv.

 says your internet is too slow:
Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
service is he is supporting

I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
fit in the router

That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Modem = a box with blinky lights.

Router = a box with blinky lights.

Hub = a box with blinky lights.

Switch = a box with blink lights.

You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
and tell you it's the Linksy.


On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I think we need one.  For example,

Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)

Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)

WiFi = Internet

Booster = range extender

Linsky = router (also Link System)

Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup


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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Ken Hohhof]

So true.

 

Of course a couple days ago I had a customer all worried because her Internet 
was SO SLOW compared to what she should have.  She works for Blue Cross / Blue 
Shield and was applying to work from home and they told her to go to 
speedtest.net and then gave her a screenshot of how to share her results.  The 
screenshot showed a download speed of 91 Mbps.  She interpreted it as that’s 
what she should have.  She is currently on a 10 Mbps plan and thought OMG I 
only have one tenth of what I should have and I’ll never be able to work from 
home.

 

And IT people can be a pain in the butt.  Maybe there should also be an IT to 
English dictionary.

 

1 Gbps = fast

100 Mbps = barely adequate

10 Mbps = slower than dialup

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 2:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

 

I feel the same way about the word "speed", and by extension the word "slow".

It's partly our own fault for calling "bits per second" a "speed" starting back 
in the 90's.  "Oh you've only got a speed of 10Mbps?  That must be why it's 
slow. "

The thing a customer actually cares about in terms of speed is that when they 
click a link, buy a PS4 game, and so on that, that the the result of whatever 
they initiated comes quickly.  The way people use the term, "Speed" of the 
network is more like how much work was performed over time, and bps plays a 
role in that (especially downloading the PS4 game), but every single thing 
between the user and the server plays a role in that too.  Even excluding the 
things outside of our control, the perceived "speed" is impacted by buffers, 
queues, QoS, latency, jitter, and so on.  

So this "customer to english" translation is the inverse of the problem where 
all boxes with blinky lights get a random name.  All problems impacting 
completion of tasks are called "slow speeds".

"slow service" = jitter in my online game

"slow service" = my wifi signal sucks

"slow service" = Facebook is down

"slow service" = An App Store download on my Dad's iPad is stuck at 58 out of 
130MB and won't go past that.

"slow service" = My VoIP call is breaking up

"slow service" = speedtest.net says I get 9.2Mbps, but I pay for 10Mbps. And 
really that's irrelevant, what I'm really calling about is my work VPN won't 
connect because I have a 1492 byte MTU and their Sonicwall drops PMTUD packets, 
but the first thing I do for any problem is run speedtest.net and then report 
whatever's wrong as slow service.

Then when they tell you service is "slow" and you seek clarification about 
what's not working or what's being slow for them they think you're arguing 
about it.  Really they're making such a general statement that you have no idea 
what to even look for yet. 

 

 

On 7/23/2020 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

“Signal” and “Connection” are two of the most problematic words as far as not 
meaning the same thing to customers as to tech support people.

 

Like if customer says I have no signal, I figure they must be talking about no 
WiFi signal because they specifically used the word signal.  But often they are 
using the word “signal” to mean “Internet”.  So if Facebook or Netflix doesn’t 
work, they have no signal.

 

Then there are the people who complain they only have 1 bar of signal so we 
need to come out and adjust their antenna.  But they are looking at the 
Ethernet port lights on the router and thinking those are WiFi bars.  This 
happens a lot with Mikrotiks which have the 1-5 LEDs on top.

 

Same with the word connection.  I have no connection, I can’t get connected.  
Is their device telling them no connections are available?  Like when they same 
I’m not on my phone.  What does it mean to be “on” your phone?

 

At least Internet Explorer is pretty much gone.  People used to tell us they 
were clicking on “the Internet”, I think usually they meant Internet Explorer.  
Now they say they use Google, and we’re not sure if they mean Chrome, or they 
are searching with Google (many people don’t know how to enter a web address).

 

Then there’s “I am trying to log onto the Internet”.  Wait, are you entering 
login credentials like a username and password?  Is this your Windows login?  
Gmail?  Often they don’t really mean log in, just do something, like go to a 
webpage.  So

 

Log in = do something

 

Don’t get me going on the symbols on home routers.  The sparkler is on, the 
tadpole is off …

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

 

Yeah and since the monitor says "No Signal" right on the screen I can almost 
understand the confusion.  I think laptops and tablets are making monitor 
malfunctions a less common thing though.

On 7/23/2020 12:11 PM, castarritt wrote:

I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Adam Moffett]

I feel the same way about the word "speed", and by extension the word 
"slow".


It's partly our own fault for calling "bits per second" a "speed" 
starting back in the 90's.  "Oh you've only got a speed of 10Mbps?  That 
must be why it's slow. "


The thing a customer actually cares about in terms of speed is that when 
they click a link, buy a PS4 game, and so on that, that the the result 
of whatever they initiated comes quickly.  The way people use the term, 
"Speed" of the network is more like how much work was performed over 
time, and bps plays a role in that (especially downloading the PS4 
game), but every single thing between the user and the server plays a 
role in that too.  Even excluding the things outside of our control, the 
perceived "speed" is impacted by buffers, queues, QoS, latency, jitter, 
and so on.


So this "customer to english" translation is the inverse of the problem 
where all boxes with blinky lights get a random name.  All problems 
impacting completion of tasks are called "slow speeds".


"slow service" = jitter in my online game

"slow service" = my wifi signal sucks

"slow service" = Facebook is down

"slow service" = An App Store download on my Dad's iPad is stuck at 58 
out of 130MB and won't go past that.


"slow service" = My VoIP call is breaking up

"slow service" = speedtest.net says I get 9.2Mbps, but I pay for 10Mbps. 
And really that's irrelevant, what I'm really calling about is my work 
VPN won't connect because I have a 1492 byte MTU and their Sonicwall 
drops PMTUD packets, but the first thing I do for any problem is run 
speedtest.net and then report whatever's wrong as slow service.


Then when they tell you service is "slow" and you seek clarification 
about what's not working or what's being slow for them they think you're 
arguing about it.  Really they're making such a general statement that 
you have no idea what to even look for yet.




On 7/23/2020 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


“Signal” and “Connection” are two of the most problematic words as far 
as not meaning the same thing to customers as to tech support people.


Like if customer says I have no signal, I figure they must be talking 
about no WiFi signal because they specifically used the word signal.  
But often they are using the word “signal” to mean “Internet”.  So if 
Facebook or Netflix doesn’t work, they have no signal.


Then there are the people who complain they only have 1 bar of signal 
so we need to come out and adjust their antenna.  But they are looking 
at the Ethernet port lights on the router and thinking those are WiFi 
bars.  This happens a lot with Mikrotiks which have the 1-5 LEDs on top.


Same with the word connection.  I have no connection, I can’t get 
connected.  Is their device telling them no connections are 
available?  Like when they same I’m not on my phone.  What does it 
mean to be “on” your phone?


At least Internet Explorer is pretty much gone.  People used to tell 
us they were clicking on “the Internet”, I think usually they meant 
Internet Explorer.  Now they say they use Google, and we’re not sure 
if they mean Chrome, or they are searching with Google (many people 
don’t know how to enter a web address).


Then there’s “I am trying to log onto the Internet”.  Wait, are you 
entering login credentials like a username and password?  Is this your 
Windows login?  Gmail? Often they don’t really mean log in, just do 
something, like go to a webpage.  So


Log in = do something

Don’t get me going on the symbols on home routers.  The sparkler is 
on, the tadpole is off …


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:33 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

Yeah and since the monitor says "No Signal" right on the screen I can 
almost understand the confusion.  I think laptops and tablets are 
making monitor malfunctions a less common thing though.


On 7/23/2020 12:11 PM, castarritt wrote:

I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Larry Smith mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net>> wrote:

We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
into their room and now nothing works.

-- 
Larry Smith

lesm...@ecsis.net 

On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal
streaming
> patterns until an hour ago.
>
> 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
>
> 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
>
> On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything
else, just
> > not 

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Ken Hohhof]

“Signal” and “Connection” are two of the most problematic words as far as not 
meaning the same thing to customers as to tech support people.

 

Like if customer says I have no signal, I figure they must be talking about no 
WiFi signal because they specifically used the word signal.  But often they are 
using the word “signal” to mean “Internet”.  So if Facebook or Netflix doesn’t 
work, they have no signal.

 

Then there are the people who complain they only have 1 bar of signal so we 
need to come out and adjust their antenna.  But they are looking at the 
Ethernet port lights on the router and thinking those are WiFi bars.  This 
happens a lot with Mikrotiks which have the 1-5 LEDs on top.

 

Same with the word connection.  I have no connection, I can’t get connected.  
Is their device telling them no connections are available?  Like when they same 
I’m not on my phone.  What does it mean to be “on” your phone?

 

At least Internet Explorer is pretty much gone.  People used to tell us they 
were clicking on “the Internet”, I think usually they meant Internet Explorer.  
Now they say they use Google, and we’re not sure if they mean Chrome, or they 
are searching with Google (many people don’t know how to enter a web address).

 

Then there’s “I am trying to log onto the Internet”.  Wait, are you entering 
login credentials like a username and password?  Is this your Windows login?  
Gmail?  Often they don’t really mean log in, just do something, like go to a 
webpage.  So

 

Log in = do something

 

Don’t get me going on the symbols on home routers.  The sparkler is on, the 
tadpole is off …

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

 

Yeah and since the monitor says "No Signal" right on the screen I can almost 
understand the confusion.  I think laptops and tablets are making monitor 
malfunctions a less common thing though.

On 7/23/2020 12:11 PM, castarritt wrote:

I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Larry Smith mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net> > wrote:

We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
into their room and now nothing works.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net  

On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming
> patterns until an hour ago.
>
> 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
>
> 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
>
> On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just
> > not that one site.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>  
> >  >> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
> > works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching
> > 2 video streams each
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
> > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>  
> >  >> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
> > it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
> > cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
> > behind a tv.
> >
> >  says your internet is too slow:
> > Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
> > service is he is supporting
> >
> > I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
> > wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
> > fit in the router
> >
> > That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
> > mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  
> >  >> wrote:
> >
> > Modem = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Router = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Hub = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Switch = a box with blink lights.
> >
> > You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
> > and tell you it's the Linksy.
> >
> > On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> I think we need one.  For example,
> >>
> >> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you pu

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[James Howard]

This happens multiple times a day every day = I only call about once every 6 
months and every time I call is within minutes of when my connection actually 
goes down

We haven't done anything out near the antenna for months = except for trenching 
something across the buried cable, digging the cable up and then running over 
it with the lawnmower yesterday

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary


Yeah and since the monitor says "No Signal" right on the screen I can almost 
understand the confusion.  I think laptops and tablets are making monitor 
malfunctions a less common thing though.
On 7/23/2020 12:11 PM, castarritt wrote:
I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Larry Smith 
mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net>> wrote:
We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
into their room and now nothing works.

--
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming
> patterns until an hour ago.
>
> 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
>
> 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
>
> On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just
> > not that one site.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> > >> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
> > works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching
> > 2 video streams each
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
> > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
> > it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
> > cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
> > behind a tv.
> >
> >  says your internet is too slow:
> > Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
> > service is he is supporting
> >
> > I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
> > wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
> > fit in the router
> >
> > That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
> > mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > Modem = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Router = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Hub = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Switch = a box with blink lights.
> >
> > You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
> > and tell you it's the Linksy.
> >
> > On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> I think we need one.  For example,
> >>
> >> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)
> >>
> >> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
> >>
> >> WiFi = Internet
> >>
> >> Booster = range extender
> >>
> >> Linsky = router (also Link System)
> >>
> >> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
> >
> > --
> > AF mailing list
> > AF@af.afmug.com 
> > >
> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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> > AF@af.afmug.com 
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> >
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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Adam Moffett]

Yeah and since the monitor says "No Signal" right on the screen I can 
almost understand the confusion.  I think laptops and tablets are making 
monitor malfunctions a less common thing though.


On 7/23/2020 12:11 PM, castarritt wrote:

I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Larry Smith > wrote:


We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
into their room and now nothing works.

-- 
Larry Smith

lesm...@ecsis.net 

On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming
> patterns until an hour ago.
>
> 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
>
> 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
>
> On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything
else, just
> > not that one site.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
> >
> >     "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell
phone
> >     works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are
watching
> >     2 video streams each
> >
> >     Josh Luthman
> >     Office: 937-552-2340
> >     Direct: 937-552-2343
> >     1100 Wayne St
> >     Suite 1337
> >     Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
> >     mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
> >
> >         I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to
me and
> >         it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me
cause I
> >         cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.
> >
> >         Also
> >
> >         Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a
refrigerator
> >         behind a tv.
> >
> >          says your internet is
too slow:
> >         Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know
what the
> >         service is he is supporting
> >
> >         I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved
every
> >         wire and managed to make my cordless phone power
supply cord
> >         fit in the router
> >
> >         That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
> >
> >         On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
> >         mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
> >
> >             Modem = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> >             Router = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> >             Hub = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> >             Switch = a box with blink lights.
> >
> >             You don't know what it is until they read the
words on it
> >             and tell you it's the Linksy.
> >
> >             On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>             I think we need one.  For example,
> >>
> >>             Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on
my roof)
> >>
> >>             Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
> >>
> >>             WiFi = Internet
> >>
> >>             Booster = range extender
> >>
> >>             Linsky = router (also Link System)
> >>
> >>             Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
> >
> >             --
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> > AF@af.afmug.com 
>
> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> >
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> > AF@af.afmug.com 
>
> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> >
> >     --
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> > AF@af.afmug.com 
>
> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[chuck]

Re: [AFMUG] OT boredOK boomer...

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:44 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Yes, the “comorbidity” box.

But Mike’s not old enough for the “he was old and going to die soon anyway” 
box.  The boomer box.  Hey, I need to trademark that.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 10:09 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

Now you're in that huge "Prior Conditions" box that screws you up with the 
insurance companies and explains if you die from Covid...   

On 7/23/20 7:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  *nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the month. 
I canceled that. 

   

   

  Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing.

   

   

  Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is putting 
people into boxes and not looking into anything further once you're in a box. 
Gotta make sure I at least get put into the most appropriate box that I can.  
;-)



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

  I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating.

   

  Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”.  Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as 
they are with heart attacks.

   

  Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization.  No solo 
rowing across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness.  I guess you’ll have 
to ask your doctor about tower climbing.

   

  Wow, eat more meat.  That’s a tough assignment.  If only you had a ready 
source of, let’s say, pork.

   

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
Technologies
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

   

  Mike,

  Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

  "For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


  Get well soon. 


  --
  Best regards,
  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

  Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

  --

  Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:

Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt 
weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get 
more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday 
afternoon for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an 
increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying 
on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park 
compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day 
Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to 
diagnose whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being 
much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much 
better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms 
and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks 
out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a 
hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home 
about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to 
get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's 
truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was 
working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I 
expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a 
health crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for 
me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me 
that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out 
what's going on. More blood tests. E

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[castarritt]

I've got no signal = Monitor on while PC powered down

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Larry Smith  wrote:

> We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
> staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
> into their room and now nothing works.
>
> --
> Larry Smith
> lesm...@ecsis.net
>
> On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming
> > patterns until an hour ago.
> >
> > 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> > Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
> >
> > 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
> >
> > On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just
> > > not that one site.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman
> > > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
> > > works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching
> > > 2 video streams each
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
> > > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
> > > it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
> > > cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.
> > >
> > > Also
> > >
> > > Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
> > > behind a tv.
> > >
> > >  says your internet is too slow:
> > > Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
> > > service is he is supporting
> > >
> > > I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
> > > wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
> > > fit in the router
> > >
> > > That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
> > > mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Modem = a box with blinky lights.
> > >
> > > Router = a box with blinky lights.
> > >
> > > Hub = a box with blinky lights.
> > >
> > > Switch = a box with blink lights.
> > >
> > > You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
> > > and tell you it's the Linksy.
> > >
> > > On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > >> I think we need one.  For example,
> > >>
> > >> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)
> > >>
> > >> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
> > >>
> > >> WiFi = Internet
> > >>
> > >> Booster = range extender
> > >>
> > >> Linsky = router (also Link System)
> > >>
> > >> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
> > >
> > > --
> > > AF mailing list
> > > AF@af.afmug.com 
> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > AF mailing list
> > > AF@af.afmug.com 
> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > AF mailing list
> > > AF@af.afmug.com 
> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Ken Hohhof]

Yes, the “comorbidity” box.

But Mike’s not old enough for the “he was old and going to die soon anyway” 
box.  The boomer box.  Hey, I need to trademark that.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 10:09 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

Now you're in that huge "Prior Conditions" box that screws you up with the 
insurance companies and explains if you die from Covid...   

On 7/23/20 7:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

*nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the month. I 
canceled that. 

 

 

Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing.

 

 

Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is putting people 
into boxes and not looking into anything further once you're in a box. Gotta 
make sure I at least get put into the most appropriate box that I can.  ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Ken Hohhof"   
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"   

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating.

 

Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”.  Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as 
they are with heart attacks.

 

Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization.  No solo 
rowing across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness.  I guess you’ll have 
to ask your doctor about tower climbing.

 

Wow, eat more meat.  That’s a tough assignment.  If only you had a ready source 
of, let’s say, pork.

 

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 


--
Best regards,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They w

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Larry Smith]

We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin
staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router
into their room and now nothing works.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote:
> 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming
> patterns until an hour ago.
>
> 'I don't know why the radio is offline' =
> Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.
>
> 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed
>
> On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
> > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
> > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just
> > not that one site.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> > "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
> > works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching
> > 2 video streams each
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
> > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
> > it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
> > cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
> > behind a tv.
> >
> >  says your internet is too slow:
> > Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
> > service is he is supporting
> >
> > I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
> > wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
> > fit in the router
> >
> > That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
> > mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Modem = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Router = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Hub = a box with blinky lights.
> >
> > Switch = a box with blink lights.
> >
> > You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
> > and tell you it's the Linksy.
> >
> > On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> I think we need one.  For example,
> >>
> >> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)
> >>
> >> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
> >>
> >> WiFi = Internet
> >>
> >> Booster = range extender
> >>
> >> Linsky = router (also Link System)
> >>
> >> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Nate Burke]

'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming 
patterns until an hour ago.


'I don't know why the radio is offline' = 
Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside.


'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed

On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote:
"The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific 
(blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just 
not that one site.


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


"I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone
works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching
2 video streams each

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and
it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I
cant even see most of it. Amazing to me.

Also

Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator
behind a tv.

 says your internet is too slow:
Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the
service is he is supporting

I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every
wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord
fit in the router

That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Modem = a box with blinky lights.

Router = a box with blinky lights.

Hub = a box with blinky lights.

Switch = a box with blink lights.

You don't know what it is until they read the words on it
and tell you it's the Linksy.


On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I think we need one.  For example,

Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)

Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)

WiFi = Internet

Booster = range extender

Linsky = router (also Link System)

Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup


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Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mike Hammett]

According to many doctors, there are three kinds of diabetes, type 1, type 2, 
and gestational. Clearly that last one would be a bit difficult for me to get, 
so then I can "only" be type 1 or 2. Don't check the box for type 1, then 
you're type 2. 




Well, not really.. Here's all this other information. 


Type 2 


Here's my glucose levels not behinving how a type 2 behaves. 


Type 2. 


Okay, my dad's cousin had genetic testing and was confirmed to be monogenic 
diabetes. I have the monogenic diabetes symptoms and a confirmed familial link. 


Hrm, maybe it isn't type 2. I've never heard of this monogenic diabetes. 

(some time passes) 

You have monogenic diabetes. 


Gee, thanks. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 10:06:12 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

You’ve got a point about the boxes. 

Also specialists can be like the guy with a hammer, everything looks like a 
nail. At least if you really are a nail, they are pretty good at hammering. The 
general practitioners can be a problem, they are pressed to see patients 
quickly and hand out standard diagnoses and treatments. They are also probably 
tired of seeing patients who have been checking their symptoms on WebMD. Maybe 
for some laughs while you recuperate, watch old reruns of Becker on TV. 




From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 


*nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the month. I 
canceled that. 





Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing. 





Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is putting people 
into boxes and not looking into anything further once you're in a box. Gotta 
make sure I at least get put into the most appropriate box that I can. ;-) 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 
I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating. 

Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”. Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as they 
are with heart attacks. 

Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization. No solo rowing 
across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness. I guess you’ll have to ask 
your doctor about tower climbing. 

Wow, eat more meat. That’s a tough assignment. If only you had a ready source 
of, let’s say, pork. 




From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

Mike, 

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks. Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol. The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best. The article stated inflammation ( C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk. Quote from article. 

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated". 


Get well soon. 


-- 
Best regards, 
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com 

Myakka Technologies, Inc. 
www.Myakka.com 

-- 

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote: 
Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test. 

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine. 

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on. 

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better. 

Wednesday is my 38th birthday. 

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stres

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Robert]

Now you're in that huge "Prior Conditions" box that screws you up with 
the insurance companies and explains if you die from Covid...


On 7/23/20 7:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the 
month. I canceled that.



Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing.


Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is 
putting people into boxes and not looking into anything further once 
you're in a box. Gotta make sure I at least get put into the most 
appropriate box that I can.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Ken Hohhof" 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good 
at treating.


Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled 
“Horse Hospitals”.  Maybe some day they will be as good at treating 
coronavirus as they are with heart attacks.


Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization.  No 
solo rowing across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness.  I guess 
you’ll have to ask your doctor about tower climbing.


Wow, eat more meat.  That’s a tough assignment.  If only you had a 
ready source of, let’s say, pork.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka 
Technologies

*Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 
50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The 
heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated 
inflammation (C Reactive Protein)is a better measure of heart attack 
risk.  Quote from article.


"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L 
and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".



Get well soon.


--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:




Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt 
weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't 
really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I 
went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.


Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an 
increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my 
sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.


Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park 
compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the 
day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday 
morning to diagnose whatever was going on.


Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being 
much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to 
sleep much better.


Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my 
symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and 
everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the 
hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood 
tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a 
stress test for some time over the next few days.


I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm 
home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office 
advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so 
I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to 
me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the 
hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time 
sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.


I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for 
me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They 
inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they 
need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test 
(ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.


They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there 
and see what's going on. It should ta

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Robert]

And that's how we get the Media we live with...

On 7/23/20 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
So, you are more likely to suffer a heart attack of you have normal 
levels of cholesterol?

*From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies
*Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:22 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
Adam,

Exact quote from article.

"More than half of people who suffer heart attacks have perfectly 
normal levels of cholesterol."



--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 10:11:13 AM, you wrote:


	12% of adults have high total cholesterol. 18% have low levels of HDL 
"Good" cholesterol.
When the article is saying 50% of people with a heart attack have 
"low" cholesterol do they mean low levels of cholesterol or do they 
mean "not high"?  I would guess they meant that 50% of the people 
having heart attacks have "not high" cholesterol which would mean the 
other half DO have high cholesterol.
That would imply a very strong link (i.e. not a dubious one) to 
cholesterol in one way or another.  If the C Reactive Protein provides 
a stronger correlation that wouldn't make the other indicator irrelevant.

I'm not a doctor, I'm just saying those numbers don't add up.
On 7/23/2020 10:01 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 
50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The 
heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated 
inflammation (C Reactive Protein)is a better measure of heart attack 
risk.  Quote from article.


"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L 
and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".



Get well soon.


--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


	Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt 
weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't 
really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I 
went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.


Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an 
increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my 
sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.


Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park 
compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the 
day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday 
morning to diagnose whatever was going on.


Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being 
much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to 
sleep much better.


Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my 
symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and 
everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the 
hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood 
tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a 
stress test for some time over the next few days.


I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm 
home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office 
advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so 
I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to 
me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the 
hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time 
sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.


I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for 
me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They 
inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they 
need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test 
(ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.


They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there 
and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out 
and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was 
in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, 
so they put a stent in.


I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 
24 hours after arriving.



Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down 
a little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but 
nothing 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Ken Hohhof]

You’ve got a point about the boxes.

 

Also specialists can be like the guy with a hammer, everything looks like a 
nail.  At least if you really are a nail, they are pretty good at hammering.  
The general practitioners can be a problem, they are pressed to see patients 
quickly and hand out standard diagnoses and treatments.  They are also probably 
tired of seeing patients who have been checking their symptoms on WebMD.  Maybe 
for some laughs while you recuperate, watch old reruns of Becker on TV.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

*nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the month. I 
canceled that.

 

 

Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing.

 

 

Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is putting people 
into boxes and not looking into anything further once you're in a box. Gotta 
make sure I at least get put into the most appropriate box that I can.  ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating.

 

Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”.  Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as 
they are with heart attacks.

 

Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization.  No solo 
rowing across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness.  I guess you’ll have 
to ask your doctor about tower climbing.

 

Wow, eat more meat.  That’s a tough assignment.  If only you had a ready source 
of, let’s say, pork.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 


--
Best regards,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Adam Moffett]

Right, but only 12% of people have high cholesterol.  So if half the 
people having heart attacks have normal cholesterol that implies a very 
strong correlation.


On 7/23/2020 10:22 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Adam,

Exact quote from article.

"More than half of people who suffer heart attacks have perfectly 
normal levels of cholesterol."



--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 10:11:13 AM, you wrote:


	12% of adults have high total cholesterol.  18% have low levels of 
HDL "Good" cholesterol.
When the article is saying 50% of people with a heart attack have 
"low" cholesterol do they mean low levels of cholesterol or do they 
mean "not high"?  I would guess they meant that 50% of the people 
having heart attacks have "not high" cholesterol which would mean the 
other half DO have high cholesterol.
That would imply a very strong link (i.e. not a dubious one) to 
cholesterol in one way or another.  If the C Reactive Protein provides 
a stronger correlation that wouldn't make the other indicator irrelevant.

I'm not a doctor, I'm just saying those numbers don't add up.
On 7/23/2020 10:01 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 
50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The 
heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated 
inflammation (C Reactive Protein)is a better measure of heart attack 
risk.  Quote from article.


"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L 
and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".



Get well soon.


--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


	Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt 
weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't 
really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I 
went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.


Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an 
increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my 
sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.


Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park 
compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the 
day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday 
morning to diagnose whatever was going on.


Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being 
much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to 
sleep much better.


Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my 
symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and 
everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the 
hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood 
tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a 
stress test for some time over the next few days.


I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm 
home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office 
advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so 
I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to 
me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the 
hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time 
sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.


I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for 
me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They 
inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they 
need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test 
(ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.


They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there 
and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out 
and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was 
in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, 
so they put a stent in.


I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 
24 hours after arriving.



Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down 
a little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but 
nothing terrible.



Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* I had a long weekend camping trip scheduled for the end of the month. I 
canceled that. 




Yeah, I'll have to see how this impacts my tower climbing. 




Well, something else the medical profession is good at doing is putting people 
into boxes and not looking into anything further once you're in a box. Gotta 
make sure I at least get put into the most appropriate box that I can. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:11:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating. 

Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”. Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as they 
are with heart attacks. 

Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization. No solo rowing 
across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness. I guess you’ll have to ask 
your doctor about tower climbing. 

Wow, eat more meat. That’s a tough assignment. If only you had a ready source 
of, let’s say, pork. 




From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 

Mike, 

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks. Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol. The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best. The article stated inflammation ( C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk. Quote from article. 

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated". 


Get well soon. 


-- 
Best regards, 
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com 

Myakka Technologies, Inc. 
www.Myakka.com 

-- 

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote: 
Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test. 

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine. 

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on. 

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better. 

Wednesday is my 38th birthday. 

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days. 

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis. 

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had 
me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I 
had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's 
going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came 
back fine. 

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see 
what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to 
repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an 
hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in. 

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours 
after arriving. 


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal: 
Total Cholesterol: 144 (0 - 199 mg/dL) 
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL) 
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL) 
LDL: 88 (0 - 99 mg/dL) 
Non-HDL: 120 
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0 
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L) 
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L) 


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. 
The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Geeze Mike. That whole episode is downright scary from the point
  of view that "everything checks out normal" until you walked into
  the ER and were informed you had a heart attack.


Get well, and we hope you have a way to deal with this that
  doesn't drastically alter your life style.


bp



On 7/23/2020 5:57 AM, Mike Hammett
  wrote:


  
  
  Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I
messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in the upper chest
and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went
Monday afternoon for a COVID test.


Monday night, it was very
  difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing pressure
  in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on
  my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.


Tuesday I had a slight pressure,
  but felt like a walk in the park compared to Monday night. The
  COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. Negative.
  I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to
  diagnose whatever was going on.


Tuesday night I slept in the
  recliner. Other than the recliner being much less comfortable
  than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much
  better.


Wednesday is my 38th birthday.


Wednesday morning I go to the
  doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and answer a battery
  of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out
  fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door
  as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd
  either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a
  stress test for some time over the next few days.


I go take those, go to a grocery
  store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 10 - 15 minutes
  when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get
  a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my
  brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me)
  to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the
  hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot
  of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a
  health crisis.


I got to the hospital at 11:11
  AM. They were already there waiting for me, had me sit in a
  wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me
  that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they
  need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo
  test (ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.


They schedule me for an
  angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see what's
  going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an
  hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I
  was in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my
  arteries, so they put a stent in.


I was out of the hospital by
  11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours after
  arriving.




Most of my heart-related blood
  tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150
  mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 -
  10.00 mg/L)




So it'd be nice to get the HDL
  up a little and the triglycerides down a little. The others
  would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing
  terrible.




Oh, here is the test that wasn't
  normal:




Troponin I , High
  Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)






It's a genetic thing on my
  dad's side.


  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent
  Computing Solutions

Midwest
  Internet Exchange

The
  Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"

Sent: Wednesday, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[chuck]

Re: [AFMUG] OT boredSo, you are more likely to suffer a heart attack of you 
have normal levels of cholesterol?

From: Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Adam,

Exact quote from article.

"More than half of people who suffer heart attacks have perfectly normal levels 
of cholesterol."


--
Best regards,
Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 10:11:13 AM, you wrote:


 12% of adults have high total cholesterol.  18% have low levels of HDL 
"Good" cholesterol.
  When the article is saying 50% of people with a heart attack have "low" 
cholesterol do they mean low levels of cholesterol or do they mean "not high"?  
I would guess they meant that 50% of the people having heart attacks have "not 
high" cholesterol which would mean the other half DO have high cholesterol.
  That would imply a very strong link (i.e. not a dubious one) to 
cholesterol in one way or another.  If the C Reactive Protein provides a 
stronger correlation that wouldn't make the other indicator irrelevant.  
  I'm not a doctor, I'm just saying those numbers don't add up.
  On 7/23/2020 10:01 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

   Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  
Apparently 50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The 
heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated 
inflammation (C Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  
Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 
3mg/L and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 


--
Best regards,
Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


 Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I 
felt weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really 
get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday 
afternoon for a COVID test.

  Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due 
to an increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. 
Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

  Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the 
park compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day 
Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to 
diagnose whatever was going on.

  Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the 
recliner being much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was 
able to sleep much better.

  Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

  Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain 
my symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and 
everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next 
door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to 
go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the 
next few days.

  I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go 
home. I'm home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office 
advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove 
my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay 
field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop 
with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I 
wasn't in a health crisis.

  I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there 
waiting for me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. 
They inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need 
to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the 
heart), which came back fine.

  They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get 
in there and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out 
and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for 
just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a 
stent in.

  I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just 
barely over 24 hours after arriving.


  Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
  Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
  Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
  HDL: 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored


Adam,

Exact quote from article.

"More than half of people who suffer heart attacks have perfectly normal levels of cholesterol."


--
Best regards,
 Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 10:11:13 AM, you wrote:






12% of adults have high total cholesterol.  18% have low levels of HDL "Good" cholesterol.
When the article is saying 50% of people with a heart attack have "low" cholesterol do they mean low levels of cholesterol or do they mean "not high"?  I would guess they meant that 50% of the people having heart attacks have "not high" cholesterol which would mean the other half DO have high cholesterol.
That would imply a very strong link (i.e. not a dubious one) to cholesterol in one way or another.  If the C Reactive Protein provides a stronger correlation that wouldn't make the other indicator irrelevant.  
I'm not a doctor, I'm just saying those numbers don't add up.
On 7/23/2020 10:01 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 


--
Best regards,
Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:





Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in.

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours after arriving.


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible.


Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)



It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
Subj

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Adam Moffett]

12% of adults have high total cholesterol.  18% have low levels of HDL 
"Good" cholesterol.


When the article is saying 50% of people with a heart attack have "low" 
cholesterol do they mean low levels of cholesterol or do they mean "not 
high"?  I would guess they meant that 50% of the people having heart 
attacks have "not high" cholesterol which would mean the other half DO 
have high cholesterol.


That would imply a very strong link (i.e. not a dubious one) to 
cholesterol in one way or another.  If the C Reactive Protein provides a 
stronger correlation that wouldn't make the other indicator irrelevant.


I'm not a doctor, I'm just saying those numbers don't add up.

On 7/23/2020 10:01 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 
50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The 
heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated 
inflammation (C Reactive Protein)is a better measure of heart attack 
risk.  Quote from article.


"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L 
and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".



Get well soon.


--
Best regards,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com 

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


	Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt 
weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't 
really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I 
went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.


Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an 
increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my 
sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.


Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park 
compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the 
day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday 
morning to diagnose whatever was going on.


Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being 
much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to 
sleep much better.


Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my 
symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and 
everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the 
hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood 
tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a 
stress test for some time over the next few days.


I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm 
home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office 
advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so 
I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to 
me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the 
hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time 
sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.


I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for 
me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They 
inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they 
need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test 
(ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.


They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there 
and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out 
and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was 
in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, 
so they put a stent in.


I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 
24 hours after arriving.



Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down 
a little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but 
nothing terrible.



Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)



It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.

*From:* Mike Hammett
*Sent:* We

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Ken Hohhof]

I guess the good news is it’s something the medical profession is good at 
treating.

 

Not like Covid ICUs which remind me of the Far Side comic titled “Horse 
Hospitals”.  Maybe some day they will be as good at treating coronavirus as 
they are with heart attacks.

 

Maybe avoid anything that takes you days away from civilization.  No solo 
rowing across the Atlantic, or hiking in the wilderness.  I guess you’ll have 
to ask your doctor about tower climbing.

 

Wow, eat more meat.  That’s a tough assignment.  If only you had a ready source 
of, let’s say, pork.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

 

Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of 
people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart 
attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C 
Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 
mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 


--
Best regards,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

--

Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:


Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had 
me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I 
had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's 
going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came 
back fine.

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see 
what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to 
repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an 
hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in.

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours 
after arriving.


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. 
The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible.


Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)



It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.




-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP





  _  

From:   ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <  
af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored


Mike,

Just read an article about cholesterol and heart attacks.  Apparently 50% of people that have a heart attack have low cholesterol.  The heart attack/cholesterol link is dubious at best.  The article stated inflammation (C Reactive Protein) is a better measure of heart attack risk.  Quote from article.

"For the CRP, the lower the better. If your levels are between 3mg/L and 10 mg/L, you're considered slightly elevated".  


Get well soon. 

 
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Thursday, July 23, 2020, 8:57:45 AM, you wrote:






Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon for a COVID test.

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came back fine.

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in.

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours after arriving.


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible.


Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)



It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored



Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.  
 
From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
 
I must have missed Jaime's problem.

I had a heart attack last week.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:00:53 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT bored

Feeling empathy for Jaime.  I jumped from the top hand rail of my scissors lift to floor of the basket a few days ago.  Plumbing up some new natural gas pipes to my new natural gas /electric steam cleaner.  Now my herniated disks are all messed up again.  So can’t do anything.  Bored out of my gourd.  I have finally proven to my self that I just cannot jump down from things anymore.  The most crazy painful back events came from 1) Jumping off of a 6’ stone wall about 6 years ago.  2) Jumping off the back of a semi flat bed about a  year ago. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mike Hammett]

*shrugs* 


I'll be meeting with the cardiologist next Tuesday to go over things. I'll be 
getting a phone call some time over the next couple of weeks to start the 
rehab. 


I suspect it's just getting tighter with where the cholesterol levels can be. 


I suspect regular, sustained exercise will be a component. 




I already ate a fairly healthy diet, albeit maybe in too large of portions. 
That said, I'm not incredibly fat and my weight has been fairly steady for 
years. 


I most likely have an atypical form of diabetes (monogenic diabetes, about 1% - 
3% of diabetes cases) that isn't well known and is treated very differently 
than other kinds of diabetes. Why I most likely have it is that it's hereditary 
and there has been a positive blood test in my wing of the family that has 
diabetes. I check the boxes for the symptoms to lead down that path as well. 
How it's different (on the surface) is that my blood sugar typically goes down 
with food, not up. How to easily help mitigate that is eating more meat, which 
is opposite of a normal cardiac diet. 




I will have to get the specifics of how my genetics are to see how to craft a 
diet that best services all of my quirks. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:15:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 




So, now what needs to change to prevent this from happening again? 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:57 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 


Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test. 

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine. 

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on. 

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better. 

Wednesday is my 38th birthday. 

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days. 

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis. 

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had 
me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I 
had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's 
going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came 
back fine. 

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see 
what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to 
repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an 
hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in. 

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours 
after arriving. 


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal: 
Total Cholesterol: 144 ( 0 - 199 mg/dL) 
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL) 
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL) 
LDL: 88 (0 - 99 mg/dL) 
Non-HDL: 120 
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0 
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L) 
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L) 


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. 
The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible. 


Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal: 


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL) 






It's a genetic thing on my dad's side. 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gro

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Jaime Solorza]

Prayers sent

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 6:58 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird
> in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more
> specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday
> afternoon for a COVID test.
>
> Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an
> increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides.
> Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.
>
> Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared
> to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday.
> Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose
> whatever was going on.
>
> Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much
> less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much
> better.
>
> Wednesday is my 38th birthday.
>
> Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms
> and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything
> checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as
> sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to
> the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the
> next few days.
>
> I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home
> about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising
> me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my
> brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay
> field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my
> laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things
> and that I wasn't in a health crisis.
>
> I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me,
> had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me
> that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure
> out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart),
> which came back fine.
>
> They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and
> see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an
> hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just
> over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a
> stent in.
>
> I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24
> hours after arriving.
>
>
> Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
> Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
> Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
> HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
> LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
> Non-HDL: 120
> Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
> Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
> C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)
>
>
> So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a
> little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing
> terrible.
>
>
> Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:
>
>
> Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)
>
>
>
> It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> I must have missed Jaime's problem.
>
> I had a heart attack last week.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Ron M.]

"The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific
(blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just not
that one site.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone works,
> husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching 2 video streams
> each
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and it takes a
>> bit to understand what they're telling me cause I cant even see most of it.
>> Amazing to me.
>>
>> Also
>>
>> Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator behind a tv.
>>
>>  says your internet is too slow: Patel, I
>> mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the service is he is
>> supporting
>>
>> I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every wire and
>> managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord fit in the router
>>
>> That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>>> Modem = a box with blinky lights.
>>>
>>> Router = a box with blinky lights.
>>>
>>> Hub = a box with blinky lights.
>>>
>>> Switch = a box with blink lights.
>>>
>>> You don't know what it is until they read the words on it and tell you
>>> it's the Linksy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we need one.  For example,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)
>>>
>>> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
>>>
>>> WiFi = Internet
>>>
>>> Booster = range extender
>>>
>>> Linsky = router (also Link System)
>>>
>>> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
>>>
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>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Lewis Bergman]

Gene replacement therapy via Crispr in China.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:16 AM  wrote:

> So, now what needs to change to prevent this from happening again?
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird
> in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more
> specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday
> afternoon for a COVID test.
>
> Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an
> increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides.
> Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.
>
> Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared
> to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday.
> Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose
> whatever was going on.
>
> Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much
> less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much
> better.
>
> Wednesday is my 38th birthday.
>
> Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms
> and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything
> checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as
> sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to
> the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the
> next few days.
>
> I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home
> about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising
> me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my
> brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay
> field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my
> laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things
> and that I wasn't in a health crisis.
>
> I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me,
> had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me
> that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure
> out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart),
> which came back fine.
>
> They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and
> see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an
> hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just
> over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a
> stent in.
>
> I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24
> hours after arriving.
>
>
> Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
> Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
> Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
> HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
> LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
> Non-HDL: 120
> Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
> Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
> C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)
>
>
> So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a
> little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing
> terrible.
>
>
> Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:
>
>
> Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)
>
>
>
> It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> I must have missed Jaime's problem.
>
> I had a heart attack last week.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[chuck]

So, now what needs to change to prevent this from happening again?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test. 

Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.

Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on.

Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better.

Wednesday is my 38th birthday.

Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days.

I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis.

I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had 
me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I 
had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's 
going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came 
back fine.

They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see 
what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to 
repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an 
hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in.

I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours 
after arriving.


Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
Non-HDL: 120
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)


So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. 
The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible.


Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:


Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)






It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.





-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored


Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

I must have missed Jaime's problem.

I had a heart attack last week.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:00:53 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT bored


Feeling empathy for Jaime.  I jumped from the top hand rail of my scissors lift 
to floor of the basket a few days ago.  Plumbing up some new natural gas pipes 
to my new natural gas /electric steam cleaner.  Now my herniated disks are all 
messed up again.  So can’t do anything.  Bored out of my gourd.  I have finally 
proven to my self that I just cannot jump down from things anymore.  The most 
crazy painful back events came from 1) Jumping off of a 6’ stone wall about 6 
years ago.  2) Jumping off the back of a semi flat bed about a  year ago.  And 
now this.  So, as much as I want to act 20 years old, I guess jumping off or 
down is something that is not on the menu anymore.  Hopefully skiing is not 
going to start to become a problem.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Lewis Bergman]

Wow. Sorry to hear that.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:58 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird
> in the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more
> specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday
> afternoon for a COVID test.
>
> Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an
> increasing pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides.
> Laying on my back (once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine.
>
> Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared
> to Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday.
> Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose
> whatever was going on.
>
> Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much
> less comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much
> better.
>
> Wednesday is my 38th birthday.
>
> Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms
> and answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything
> checks out fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as
> sort of a hail Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to
> the ER for a stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the
> next few days.
>
> I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home
> about 10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising
> me to get a ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my
> brother's truck from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay
> field he was working in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my
> laptop with as I expected to have a lot of time sitting around for things
> and that I wasn't in a health crisis.
>
> I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me,
> had me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me
> that I had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure
> out what's going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart),
> which came back fine.
>
> They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and
> see what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an
> hour to repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just
> over an hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a
> stent in.
>
> I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24
> hours after arriving.
>
>
> Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal:
> Total Cholesterol: 144  (0 - 199 mg/dL)
> Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL)
> HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL)
> LDL: 88  (0 - 99 mg/dL)
> Non-HDL: 120
> Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0
> Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L)
> C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L)
>
>
> So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a
> little. The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing
> terrible.
>
>
> Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal:
>
>
> Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL)
>
>
>
> It's a genetic thing on my dad's side.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> Wow, details?  I worry about that every time I get light headed.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT bored
>
> I must have missed Jaime's problem.
>
> I had a heart attack last week.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT bored

[Mike Hammett]

Last Monday (13th) afternoon, I messaged my wife saying that I felt weird in 
the upper chest and my shoulder blades ached. I couldn't really get more 
specific. As I checked off a few of the COVID boxes, I went Monday afternoon 
for a COVID test. 


Monday night, it was very difficult to sleep on my sides, due to an increasing 
pressure in my chest. Usually, I can only sleep on my sides. Laying on my back 
(once I could fall asleep) seemed to be fine. 


Tuesday I had a slight pressure, but felt like a walk in the park compared to 
Monday night. The COVID tests came back at the end of the day Tuesday. 
Negative. I then scheduled a doctor visit for Wednesday morning to diagnose 
whatever was going on. 


Tuesday night I slept in the recliner. Other than the recliner being much less 
comfortable than the bed, due to the incline I was able to sleep much better. 


Wednesday is my 38th birthday. 


Wednesday morning I go to the doctor appointment. I explain my symptoms and 
answer a battery of questions. They perform an EKG and everything checks out 
fine. He orders some blood tests from the hospital next door as sort of a hail 
Mary. Depending on the blood tests, I'd either have to go to the ER for a 
stress test or schedule a stress test for some time over the next few days. 


I go take those, go to a grocery store, go to Target, go home. I'm home about 
10 - 15 minutes when I get a call from the doctor's office advising me to get a 
ride to the ER. There was no sense of urgency, so I drove my brother's truck 
from my parents farm (right next door to me) to the hay field he was working 
in. He gave me a ride to the hospital. I brought my laptop with as I expected 
to have a lot of time sitting around for things and that I wasn't in a health 
crisis. 


I got to the hospital at 11:11 AM. They were already there waiting for me, had 
me sit in a wheel chair and then wheeled me into the ER. They inform me that I 
had a heart attack in the past 1 to 2 days and they need to figure out what's 
going on. More blood tests. Echo test (ultrasound of the heart), which came 
back fine. 


They schedule me for an angiogram\angioplasty so they can get in there and see 
what's going on. It should take about an hour to check it out and an hour to 
repair whatever's wrong, if it's easily repaired. I was in for just over an 
hour. I had 100% blockage in one of my arteries, so they put a stent in. 


I was out of the hospital by 11:30 AM on Thursday, so just barely over 24 hours 
after arriving. 




Most of my heart-related blood tests were normal: 
Total Cholesterol: 144 ( 0 - 199 mg/dL) 
Triglycerides: 159 (0 - 150 mg/dL) 
HDL: 24 (23 - 92 mg/dL) 
LDL: 88 (0 - 99 mg/dL) 
Non-HDL: 120 
Col/HDL Ratio: 6.0 
Sodium: 137 (136 - 145 mEq/L) 
C Reactive Protein 8.77 (0.00 - 10.00 mg/L) 




So it'd be nice to get the HDL up a little and the triglycerides down a little. 
The others would be nice to tweak a little bit as well, but nothing terrible. 




Oh, here is the test that wasn't normal: 




Troponin I , High Sensitivity: 7,136.4 (0.0 - 20.0 pg/mL) 






It's a genetic thing on my dad's side. 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:08:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 




Wow, details? I worry about that every time I get light headed. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:50 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT bored 


I must have missed Jaime's problem. 

I had a heart attack last week. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:00:53 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT bored 




Feeling empathy for Jaime. I jumped from the top hand rail of my scissors lift 
to floor of the basket a few days ago. Plumbing up some new natural gas pipes 
to my new natural gas /electric steam cleaner. Now my herniated disks are all 
messed up again. So can’t do anything. Bored out of my gourd. I have finally 
proven to my self that I just cannot jump down from things anymore. The most 
crazy painful back events came from 1) Jumping off of a 6’ stone wall about 6 
years ago. 2) Jumping off the back of a semi flat bed about a year ago. And now 
this. So, as much as I want to act 20 years old, I guess jumping off or down is 
something that is not on the menu anymore. Hopefully skiing is not going to 
start to become a problem. 
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Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary

[Josh Luthman]

"I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone works,
husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching 2 video streams
each

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and it takes a
> bit to understand what they're telling me cause I cant even see most of it.
> Amazing to me.
>
> Also
>
> Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator behind a tv.
>
>  says your internet is too slow: Patel, I
> mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the service is he is
> supporting
>
> I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every wire and
> managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord fit in the router
>
> That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Modem = a box with blinky lights.
>>
>> Router = a box with blinky lights.
>>
>> Hub = a box with blinky lights.
>>
>> Switch = a box with blink lights.
>>
>> You don't know what it is until they read the words on it and tell you
>> it's the Linksy.
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I think we need one.  For example,
>>
>>
>>
>> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof)
>>
>> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable)
>>
>> WiFi = Internet
>>
>> Booster = range extender
>>
>> Linsky = router (also Link System)
>>
>> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup
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