Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Jaime Solorza]

Why? Why would a proven expert on pandemics have to fear for his family's
safety?

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEIGp2DZDmBNzMbRqY69yWQwqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow2Nb3CjDivdcCMJ_d7gU?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 7:59 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Please carefully parse what I said.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Robert  wrote:
>
>  Sorry I should call Lent, but ignoring his quoting and spreading the
> nut case doctor talking about hydrotoxic as the cure for coronavirus cannot
> be ignored or swept under the rug as "flubing" his advisors or the fiasco
> of using bleach and suggesting it's investigation for use.   Chuck you are
> a hero of mine but siding with what is clearly an idiot diminishes you.   I
> admire you too much to see you defend him, it just hurts.
>
> On 8/5/20 3:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster the
> laft clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about things that
> can be refuted, but the things he said were, for the most part, literally
> true if you parse the sentence.
>
> Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends with
> thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence by
> sentence, word by word there are legit, logical and true explanations.  The
> problem is he parrots and regurgitates things his advisors tell him but he
> flubs them up in the retelling.  I actually got a kick out of them talking
> over each other.  I would have had a bit more respect for the president if
> I was interviewing them but obviously these two have a history and enjoy
> the jousting.
>
> He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him at
> the inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had a deep
> dislike for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have much
> personal knowledge of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was impressive (not
> sure the exact wording) Trump essentially said “I don’t know, others seem
> to think so”.  That is not Trump saying Lewis was not impressive or
> discounting his accomplishments, but that is how it was interpreted by some
> news outlets.
>
> It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events and
> create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority to
> attempt to report exactly what has been said, rather they just report the
> worst possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both sides.
>
> You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the
> reactionary summary and then go actually read or view the source and it is
> never as bad.
>
> But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there.  Newspaper
> articles 200 years ago were doing the exact same thing to political
> enemies.  Even worse as far as slander and libel.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>
> Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever.
> What an embarrassment.
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:
>
>> Antifa laser.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>
>> Person behind holding the object. Debunked
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a mirage to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
>>> expertise.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>>>
 That’s what covid looks like in the wild.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Chuck McCown]

Please carefully parse what I said.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
>  Sorry I should call Lent, but ignoring his quoting and spreading the nut 
> case doctor talking about hydrotoxic as the cure for coronavirus cannot be 
> ignored or swept under the rug as "flubing" his advisors or the fiasco of 
> using bleach and suggesting it's investigation for use.   Chuck you are a 
> hero of mine but siding with what is clearly an idiot diminishes you.   I 
> admire you too much to see you defend him, it just hurts.
> 
> On 8/5/20 3:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster the laft 
>> clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about things that can 
>> be refuted, but the things he said were, for the most part, literally true 
>> if you parse the sentence. 
>>  
>> Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends with 
>> thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence by 
>> sentence, word by word there are legit, logical and true explanations.  The 
>> problem is he parrots and regurgitates things his advisors tell him but he 
>> flubs them up in the retelling.  I actually got a kick out of them talking 
>> over each other.  I would have had a bit more respect for the president if I 
>> was interviewing them but obviously these two have a history and enjoy the 
>> jousting. 
>>  
>> He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him at 
>> the inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had a deep 
>> dislike for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have much personal 
>> knowledge of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was impressive (not sure the 
>> exact wording) Trump essentially said “I don’t know, others seem to think 
>> so”.  That is not Trump saying Lewis was not impressive or discounting his 
>> accomplishments, but that is how it was interpreted by some news outlets. 
>>  
>> It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events and 
>> create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority to 
>> attempt to report exactly what has been said, rather they just report the 
>> worst possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both sides. 
>>  
>> You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the reactionary 
>> summary and then go actually read or view the source and it is never as bad. 
>>  
>> But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there.  Newspaper articles 
>> 200 years ago were doing the exact same thing to political enemies.  Even 
>> worse as far as slander and libel.  
>>  
>> From: Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>  
>> Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever. What 
>> an embarrassment.
>>  
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:
>>> Antifa laser.
>>>  
>>> From: Jaime Solorza
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>>  
>>> Person behind holding the object. Debunked
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
 Looks like a mirage to me.
 
  
 
 bp
 
 
 On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus 
> expertise.
>  
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>> That’s what covid looks like in the wild. 
>>  
>> From: Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>  
>> Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Lewis Bergman]

I don't remember Chuck defending him. He was stating that during the
interview his statements were primarily factual if you parse them as they
were spoken in the complete interview. I think the man is obviously not
suited for an office where every syllable matters. Even hinting that an
election you be delayed for any reason, in my opinion, should result in
censure for any office from local elections all the way up.

But during these polarized times, as it has been for the last 15 years or
so, it seems that every day that goes by positions are hardened, the
ability to detect a fact and expose one is diminished. It doesn't matter
what side of the spectrum you fall on, the condition seems to be ubiquitous.
Maybe lint is in order

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:21 PM Robert  wrote:

> Sorry I should call Lent, but ignoring his quoting and spreading the nut
> case doctor talking about hydrotoxic as the cure for coronavirus cannot be
> ignored or swept under the rug as "flubing" his advisors or the fiasco of
> using bleach and suggesting it's investigation for use.   Chuck you are a
> hero of mine but siding with what is clearly an idiot diminishes you.   I
> admire you too much to see you defend him, it just hurts.
>
> On 8/5/20 3:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster the
> laft clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about things that
> can be refuted, but the things he said were, for the most part, literally
> true if you parse the sentence.
>
> Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends with
> thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence by
> sentence, word by word there are legit, logical and true explanations.  The
> problem is he parrots and regurgitates things his advisors tell him but he
> flubs them up in the retelling.  I actually got a kick out of them talking
> over each other.  I would have had a bit more respect for the president if
> I was interviewing them but obviously these two have a history and enjoy
> the jousting.
>
> He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him at
> the inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had a deep
> dislike for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have much
> personal knowledge of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was impressive (not
> sure the exact wording) Trump essentially said “I don’t know, others seem
> to think so”.  That is not Trump saying Lewis was not impressive or
> discounting his accomplishments, but that is how it was interpreted by some
> news outlets.
>
> It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events and
> create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority to
> attempt to report exactly what has been said, rather they just report the
> worst possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both sides.
>
> You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the
> reactionary summary and then go actually read or view the source and it is
> never as bad.
>
> But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there.  Newspaper
> articles 200 years ago were doing the exact same thing to political
> enemies.  Even worse as far as slander and libel.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>
> Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever.
> What an embarrassment.
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:
>
>> Antifa laser.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>
>> Person behind holding the object. Debunked
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a mirage to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
>>> expertise.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>>>
 That’s what covid looks like in the wild.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Robert]

Sorry I should call Lent, but ignoring his quoting and spreading the nut 
case doctor talking about hydrotoxic as the cure for coronavirus cannot 
be ignored or swept under the rug as "flubing" his advisors or the 
fiasco of using bleach and suggesting it's investigation for use.   
Chuck you are a hero of mine but siding with what is clearly an idiot 
diminishes you.   I admire you too much to see you defend him, it just 
hurts.


On 8/5/20 3:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster 
the laft clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about 
things that can be refuted, but the things he said were, for the most 
part, literally true if you parse the sentence.
Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends 
with thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence 
by sentence, word by word there are legit, logical and true 
explanations.  The problem is he parrots and regurgitates things his 
advisors tell him but he flubs them up in the retelling.  I actually 
got a kick out of them talking over each other.  I would have had a 
bit more respect for the president if I was interviewing them but 
obviously these two have a history and enjoy the jousting.
He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him 
at the inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had 
a deep dislike for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have 
much personal knowledge of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was 
impressive (not sure the exact wording) Trump essentially said “I 
don’t know, others seem to think so”.  That is not Trump saying Lewis 
was not impressive or discounting his accomplishments, but that is how 
it was interpreted by some news outlets.
It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events 
and create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority 
to attempt to report exactly what has been said, rather they just 
report the worst possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both 
sides.
You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the 
reactionary summary and then go actually read or view the source and 
it is never as bad.
But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there. Newspaper 
articles 200 years ago were doing the exact same thing to political 
enemies.  Even worse as far as slander and libel.

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president 
ever. What an embarrassment.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:

Antifa laser.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
Person behind holding the object. Debunked
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

Looks like a mirage to me.

bp


On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and
software plus expertise.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:

That’s what covid looks like in the wild.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
Intriguing...not a lens flare


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I think he needs a nice, quiet place to go where he can't hurt
  anyone.

bp



On 8/5/2020 4:34 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  
  Not a thing you can say will change my honest
belief that this clown has really hurt our country and caused a
lot of pain.  Block me if you wish, but if he was in front of
me, I would slap him.  Not punch him ..I save those for men
 
  
  
  
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM
  
  wrote:


  

  
Antifa laser.

  
 

  From: Jaime
  Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02
PM
  To: AnimalFarm
  Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

  
   


  Person behind holding the object. Debunked
   
  
On Wed, Aug 5,
  2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince 
  wrote:


  
Looks like a mirage to me.
 
bp



On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


  Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has
cool toys and software plus expertise.
   
  
On Wed,
  Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM 
  wrote:


  

  
That’s what covid looks like in
  the wild.  

  
 

  From: Jaime
  Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday,
August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
  To: AnimalFarm
  Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: [AFMUG]
OT: ideas?

  
   


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Jaime Solorza]

Not a thing you can say will change my honest belief that this clown has
really hurt our country and caused a lot of pain.  Block me if you wish,
but if he was in front of me, I would slap him.  Not punch him ..I save
those for men


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:

> Antifa laser.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>
> Person behind holding the object. Debunked
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Looks like a mirage to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
>> expertise.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> That’s what covid looks like in the wild.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>>
>>> Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Ken Hohhof]

Back to the photo, it looks like the My Pillow guy hitchhiking.  Pillow looks 
radioactive though.  Maybe it’s a 5G pillow.

 

Yo! Semites!

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 

I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster the laft 
clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about things that can be 
refuted, but the things he said were, for the most part, literally true if you 
parse the sentence.  

 

Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends with 
thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence by sentence, 
word by word there are legit, logical and true explanations.  The problem is he 
parrots and regurgitates things his advisors tell him but he flubs them up in 
the retelling.  I actually got a kick out of them talking over each other.  I 
would have had a bit more respect for the president if I was interviewing them 
but obviously these two have a history and enjoy the jousting.  

 

He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him at the 
inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had a deep dislike 
for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have much personal knowledge 
of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was impressive (not sure the exact wording) 
Trump essentially said “I don’t know, others seem to think so”.  That is not 
Trump saying Lewis was not impressive or discounting his accomplishments, but 
that is how it was interpreted by some news outlets.  

 

It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events and 
create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority to attempt 
to report exactly what has been said, rather they just report the worst 
possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both sides.  

 

You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the reactionary 
summary and then go actually read or view the source and it is never as bad.  

 

But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there.  Newspaper articles 200 
years ago were doing the exact same thing to political enemies.  Even worse as 
far as slander and libel.   

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 

Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever. What an 
embarrassment. 

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Antifa laser.

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 

Person behind holding the object. Debunked

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Looks like a mirage to me.

 

bp

 

On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus expertise.

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

That’s what covid looks like in the wild.  

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

 

Intriguing...not a lens flare


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[chuck]

I watched the whole interview.  It was not the unmitigated disaster the laft 
clams.  He is not very good at speaking off the cuff about things that can be 
refuted, but the things he said were, for the most part, literally true if you 
parse the sentence.  

Of course he does not have a filter and doesn’t care who he offends with 
thoughtless remarks.  But if you take the stuff he said sentence by sentence, 
word by word there are legit, logical and true explanations.  The problem is he 
parrots and regurgitates things his advisors tell him but he flubs them up in 
the retelling.  I actually got a kick out of them talking over each other.  I 
would have had a bit more respect for the president if I was interviewing them 
but obviously these two have a history and enjoy the jousting.  

He was pretty uncaring about John Lewis, but if John Lewis snubbed him at the 
inauguration and state of the unions, if John Lewis really had a deep dislike 
for Trump, it is not surprising that Trump didn’t have much personal knowledge 
of the guy.  When asked if Lewis was impressive (not sure the exact wording) 
Trump essentially said “I don’t know, others seem to think so”.  That is not 
Trump saying Lewis was not impressive or discounting his accomplishments, but 
that is how it was interpreted by some news outlets.  

It seems we have a bunch of 13 year olds that summarize current events and 
create headlines.  They lack the ability, or tenacity or authority to attempt 
to report exactly what has been said, rather they just report the worst 
possibly way you can take/spin a statement.  On both sides.  

You see an inflammatory head line, look at the story and see the reactionary 
summary and then go actually read or view the source and it is never as bad.  

But if it bleeds it leads.  Not much has changed there.  Newspaper articles 200 
years ago were doing the exact same thing to political enemies.  Even worse as 
far as slander and libel.   

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever. What an 
embarrassment. 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:

  Antifa laser.

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

  Person behind holding the object. Debunked

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

Looks like a mirage to me.



bp


On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus 
expertise.

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:

That’s what covid looks like in the wild.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Lewis Bergman]

VietNam did have a very low rate. In the last couple of weeks they have had
a couple of clusters pop up but seem to be very on top of things there.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:34 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I thought I saw something about Vietnam having a very low number of cases
> (a Few hundred IIRC), and almost no deaths.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 1:30 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> To be clear, I was saying there was a conspiracy. Although I will say if
> you want more of something, you subsidize it, and less of something, you
> tax it. All I was saying is I saw no reason for an entity, public or
> private, to falsify 3 out of 3 tests unless there was some financial
> incentive for doing so. Although anecdotal, that's a hell of a coincidence.
>
> Again, economic policy can drive mass decision making, which to some, can
> seem like a conspiracy, but in actuality is just macroeconomic decisions
> working down to the micro level. The same reason people buy shit at
> Wal-Mart for $2 less than somewhere else.
>
> Anyway, I just thought it added color to the numbers and is the only
> actual verifiable inconsistency I have seen.
>
> In my opinion, everyone on the planet, save those cannibals on that little
> island of NZ, are going to get COVID so while slowing it might be a good
> idea, it lengthens the time we stay in this rut and doesn't prevent the
> inevitable.
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM  wrote:
>
>> I make sure all my aliens have an I-9
>>
>> *From:* Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:17 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>> I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was
>> involving conspiracy?
>>
>> IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't
>> leaks data like a sieve"
>>
>> 1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the
>> aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants
>> exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
>> thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows
>> how many people involved at each hospital.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
>>
>> There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to
>> be as awful as they can almost justify them to be.
>>
>> My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
>> going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
>> still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
>> the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
>> it', too.
>>
>> Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
>> people, the better.
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
>>> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
>>> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
>>> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
>>> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
>>> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
>>> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
>>> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
>>> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
>>> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
>>> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
>>> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
>>> arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of
>>> them, basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting
>>> like idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
>>> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
>>> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grumble, grumble.
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Jaime Solorza]

Don't start...I'll post Axios interview from most inept president ever.
What an embarrassment.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 4:23 PM  wrote:

> Antifa laser.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>
> Person behind holding the object. Debunked
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Looks like a mirage to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
>> expertise.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> That’s what covid looks like in the wild.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>>
>>> Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[chuck]

Antifa laser.

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

Person behind holding the object. Debunked

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  Looks like a mirage to me.



bp


On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus 
expertise.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:

  That’s what covid looks like in the wild.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

  Intriguing...not a lens flare

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Re: [AFMUG] EPMP3000 Graphing Mu-Downlink bandwidth

[Josh Luthman]

There's an SNMP guru over at Cambium.  They got me all the OIDs for what
you're asking for on 450m.  Did you ask their support team?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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> I've looked through the MIB, and it's not jumping out at me.  When you
> are in the GUI, you can watch the current throughput graph, and when the
> Download fills up, then it starts having Mu-Downlink traffic.  Is there
> a way to graph that via SNMP?  I'm curious how often MuMIMO is being
> activated on our AP's.  From just watching the graph, I've only ever see
> the MUDownlink traffic on the throughput chart when I've been forcing
> traffic over radios with Bandwidth tests.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Jaime Solorza]

Person behind holding the object. Debunked

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Looks like a mirage to me.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
> expertise.
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:
>
>> That’s what covid looks like in the wild.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>>
>> Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Looks like a mirage to me.


bp



On 8/5/2020 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  
  Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys
and software plus expertise.
  
  
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM
  
  wrote:


  

  
That’s what covid looks like in the wild.  

  
 

  From: Jaime
  Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52
PM
  To: AnimalFarm
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
As Mr. Williamson in 6th grade used to say. "You're gonna get
  it!"


bp



On 8/5/2020 1:35 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  I plan on not getting it but getting the vaccine
instead.  Of course technically that is “getting it”.  
  

   
  
From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
  

 
  
  
To be clear, I was saying there was a
  conspiracy. Although I will say if you want more of
  something, you subsidize it, and less of something, you
  tax it. All I was saying is I saw no reason for an entity,
  public or private, to falsify 3 out of 3 tests unless
  there was some financial incentive for doing so. Although
  anecdotal, that's a hell of a coincidence.
   
  Again, economic policy can drive mass decision
making, which to some, can seem like a conspiracy, but
in actuality is just macroeconomic decisions working
down to the micro level. The same reason people buy shit
at Wal-Mart for $2 less than somewhere else.
   
  Anyway, I just thought it added color to the numbers
and is the only actual verifiable inconsistency I have
seen.
   
  In my opinion, everyone on the planet, save those
cannibals on that little island of NZ, are going to get
COVID so while slowing it might be a good idea, it
lengthens the time we stay in this rut and doesn't
prevent the inevitable. 

 

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at
3:23 PM 
wrote:
  
  

  

  I make sure all my aliens have an I-9
  

   
  
From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020
  2:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good
  news?
  

 
  
  I thought the only time Government was
competent was when it was involving conspiracy? 


IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data
is in the wild, "Gov't leaks data like a sieve"

1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a
single picture of the aliens?  "Gov't has been
covering it up for 60 years"  

On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


  Conspiracy theories lose credibility when
the number of participants exceed 5 or 10
people. You're talking about a conspiracy
involving 5 or 6 thousand hospitals in 50
states (plus all the territories), with who
knows how many people involved at each
hospital.
   
  bp



  On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
  
  
There is plenty of financial
  and political incentive for the numbers to
  be as awful as they can almost justify
  them to be.
   
  My governor publishes a report every
day.   The number in my county keeps
going up, never down.   So the same guy
who got it early and died, does he still
count?   How about the ones who got it
and 'recovered' ?   What about the
people who tested only for the
antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
it', too.
  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...my friend is analyzing it...he has cool toys and software plus
expertise.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 2:02 PM  wrote:

> That’s what covid looks like in the wild.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: ideas?
>
> Intriguing...not a lens flare
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[chuck]

I plan on not getting it but getting the vaccine instead.  Of course 
technically that is “getting it”.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

To be clear, I was saying there was a conspiracy. Although I will say if you 
want more of something, you subsidize it, and less of something, you tax it. 
All I was saying is I saw no reason for an entity, public or private, to 
falsify 3 out of 3 tests unless there was some financial incentive for doing 
so. Although anecdotal, that's a hell of a coincidence. 

Again, economic policy can drive mass decision making, which to some, can seem 
like a conspiracy, but in actuality is just macroeconomic decisions working 
down to the micro level. The same reason people buy shit at Wal-Mart for $2 
less than somewhere else.

Anyway, I just thought it added color to the numbers and is the only actual 
verifiable inconsistency I have seen.

In my opinion, everyone on the planet, save those cannibals on that little 
island of NZ, are going to get COVID so while slowing it might be a good idea, 
it lengthens the time we stay in this rut and doesn't prevent the inevitable. 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM  wrote:

  I make sure all my aliens have an I-9

  From: Nate Burke 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:17 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

  I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was involving 
conspiracy?  

  IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't leaks 
data like a sieve"

  1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the 
aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"  


  On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants exceed 
5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6 thousand 
hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows how many 
people involved at each hospital.



bp


On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:

  There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to 
be as awful as they can almost justify them to be. 

  My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps 
going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he 
still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about the 
people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got it', too.

  Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead 
people, the better.
  --


  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem 
quite OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big 
deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded of 
my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot 
better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.



On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school 
reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is 
just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age the 
peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over the 
place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.  Maybe we 
will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far, magical 
thinking hasn’t worked out so good.





From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



But there should be a E ticket for the special people...



From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential 
workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some 
arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.



  Grumble, grumble.





  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



  Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% 
positive 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I thought I saw something about Vietnam having a very low number
  of cases (a Few hundred IIRC), and almost no deaths.


bp



On 8/5/2020 1:30 PM, Lewis Bergman
  wrote:


  
  To be clear, I was saying there was a conspiracy.
Although I will say if you want more of something, you subsidize
it, and less of something, you tax it. All I was saying is I saw
no reason for an entity, public or private, to falsify 3 out of
3 tests unless there was some financial incentive for doing so.
Although anecdotal, that's a hell of a coincidence.


Again, economic policy can drive mass decision making,
  which to some, can seem like a conspiracy, but in actuality is
  just macroeconomic decisions working down to the micro level.
  The same reason people buy shit at Wal-Mart for $2 less than
  somewhere else.


Anyway, I just thought it added color to the numbers and is
  the only actual verifiable inconsistency I have seen.


In my opinion, everyone on the planet, save those cannibals
  on that little island of NZ, are going to get COVID so while
  slowing it might be a good idea, it lengthens the time we stay
  in this rut and doesn't prevent the inevitable. 
  
  
  
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM
  
  wrote:


  

  
I make sure all my aliens have an I-9

  
 

  From: Nate Burke 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:17
PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave
  Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

  
   

I
  thought the only time Government was competent was
  when it was involving conspiracy?  
  
  IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in
  the wild, "Gov't leaks data like a sieve"
  
  1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a
  single picture of the aliens?  "Gov't has been
  covering it up for 60 years"  
  
  On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
  
  
Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the
  number of participants exceed 5 or 10 people.
  You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
  thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the
  territories), with who knows how many people
  involved at each hospital.
 
bp



On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:


  There is plenty of financial and
political incentive for the numbers to be as
awful as they can almost justify them to be.
 
My governor publishes a report every day.  
  The number in my county keeps going up, never
  down.   So the same guy who got it early and
  died, does he still count?   How about the
  ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
  the people who tested only for the antibody?  
  I guess they count as 'got it', too.
 
Anything goes, no honesty or transparency
  required.   And the more dead people, the
  better.
--
 
  
   
  
On Wed, Aug 5,
  2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof 
  wrote:


  

  I see young
  kids in places like stores wearing
  masks and they seem quite OK with it,
  like having a backpack or a hat, this
  is what we do, no big deal go ahead
  and play or shop or whatever we are
  here for.  I am reminded of my
  observation that people who need
  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Lewis Bergman]

To be clear, I was saying there was a conspiracy. Although I will say if
you want more of something, you subsidize it, and less of something, you
tax it. All I was saying is I saw no reason for an entity, public or
private, to falsify 3 out of 3 tests unless there was some financial
incentive for doing so. Although anecdotal, that's a hell of a coincidence.

Again, economic policy can drive mass decision making, which to some, can
seem like a conspiracy, but in actuality is just macroeconomic decisions
working down to the micro level. The same reason people buy shit at
Wal-Mart for $2 less than somewhere else.

Anyway, I just thought it added color to the numbers and is the only actual
verifiable inconsistency I have seen.

In my opinion, everyone on the planet, save those cannibals on that little
island of NZ, are going to get COVID so while slowing it might be a good
idea, it lengthens the time we stay in this rut and doesn't prevent the
inevitable.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM  wrote:

> I make sure all my aliens have an I-9
>
> *From:* Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:17 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
> I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was involving
> conspiracy?
>
> IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't
> leaks data like a sieve"
>
> 1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the
> aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"
>
> On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants
> exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
> thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows
> how many people involved at each hospital.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
>
> There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be
> as awful as they can almost justify them to be.
>
> My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
> going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
> still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
> the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
> it', too.
>
> Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
> people, the better.
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
>> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
>> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
>> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
>> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
>> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
>> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
>> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
>> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
>> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
>> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
>> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
>> arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of
>> them, basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting
>> like idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
>> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
>> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Grumble, grumble.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
>> positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a
>> majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and
>> partying.
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> When 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[chuck]

I make sure all my aliens have an I-9

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was involving 
conspiracy?  

IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't leaks 
data like a sieve"

1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the aliens?  
"Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"  


On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

  Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants exceed 5 
or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6 thousand 
hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows how many 
people involved at each hospital.



bp


On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:

There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be 
as awful as they can almost justify them to be. 

My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps 
going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he 
still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about the 
people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got it', too.

Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead 
people, the better.
--


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite 
OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big deal go 
ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded of my 
observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot 
better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.



  On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school 
reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is 
just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age the 
peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over the 
place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.  Maybe we 
will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far, magical 
thinking hasn’t worked out so good.





  From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



  But there should be a E ticket for the special people...



  From: Bill Prince 

  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM

  To: af@af.afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



  I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential 
workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some 
arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.



Grumble, grumble.





From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% 
positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a majority 
of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and partying.  

On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

  When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he 
feels the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and 
Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.  

  Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, 
but 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think 
some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.  




  On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.  



From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



I think the most important chart is deaths per population 



Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 


 
  
  
  
  
  
 
 


www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Nate Burke]

I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was 
involving conspiracy?


IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't 
leaks data like a sieve"


1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the 
aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"


On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants 
exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 
or 6 thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with 
who knows how many people involved at each hospital.



bp


On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers 
to be as awful as they can almost justify them to be.


My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county 
keeps going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and 
died, does he still count?   How about the ones who got it and 
'recovered' ?   What about the people who tested only for the 
antibody?   I guess they count as 'got it', too.


Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more 
dead people, the better.

--


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they
seem quite OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is
what we do, no big deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we
are here for.  I am reminded of my observation that people who
need glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot better than those
of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.

On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high
school reopening in states like Georgia that are quite
frightening, I hope this is just social media taking things out
of context.  I understand at that age the peer pressure to not be
uncool, but if this is really going on all over the place, we
have an experiment going on and may not like the results.  Maybe
we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so
far, magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.

*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

But there should be a E ticket for the special people...

*From:*Bill Prince

*Sent:*Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then
essential workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp



  


On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first,
some arguing young people should get it because they have
more years ahead of them, basically let the old people die. 
But if young people keep acting like idiots, maybe they don’t

have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.

Grumble, grumble.

*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive
to 3.9% positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news. 
But reports are a majority of new cases are from college age

kids coming back to campuses and partying.

On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said
that he feels the only numbers worth looking at are % of
positive tests, and Deaths/infections.  The total numbers
don't mean anything.

Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the
last week, but 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8%
positive a month ago.  I think some of the 'bad' states
are upwards of 10% positive.


On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
 wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has
flattened.

*From:*Gino A. Villarini

*Sent:*Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

I think the most important chart is deaths per
population

*GinoVillarini **
*Founder/President
@gvillarini
  

[AFMUG] EPMP3000 Graphing Mu-Downlink bandwidth

[Nate Burke]

I've looked through the MIB, and it's not jumping out at me.  When you 
are in the GUI, you can watch the current throughput graph, and when the 
Download fills up, then it starts having Mu-Downlink traffic.  Is there 
a way to graph that via SNMP?  I'm curious how often MuMIMO is being 
activated on our AP's.  From just watching the graph, I've only ever see 
the MUDownlink traffic on the throughput chart when I've been forcing 
traffic over radios with Bandwidth tests.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[justsumname]

The CARES Act provides financial incentive.   Everything I said is factual,
public information.   Bergman asked about an incentive.   The Answer is Yes.

I had no idea I would feel this great just by eating better.
--

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:43 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants
> exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
> thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows
> how many people involved at each hospital.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
>
> There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be
> as awful as they can almost justify them to be.
>
> My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
> going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
> still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
> the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
> it', too.
>
> Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
> people, the better.
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
>> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
>> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
>> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
>> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
>> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
>> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
>> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
>> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
>> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
>> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
>> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
>> arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of
>> them, basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting
>> like idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
>> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
>> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Grumble, grumble.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
>> positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a
>> majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and
>> partying.
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels
>> the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and
>> Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.
>>
>> Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but
>> 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think
>> some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the most important chart is deaths per population
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino* *Villarini *
>> Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>>
>> [image: aeronet-logo] 
>>
>> [image: inc500] 
>>
>> [image: fb-logo] 
>>
>> [image: insta-logo] 
>>
>> [image: in-logo]
>> 
>>
>> [image: tw-logo]
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

[chuck]

That’s what covid looks like in the wild.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: ideas?

Intriguing...not a lens flare



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of
  participants exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a
  conspiracy involving 5 or 6 thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus
  all the territories), with who knows how many people involved at
  each hospital.


bp



On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname
  wrote:


  
  There is plenty of financial and political
incentive for the numbers to be as awful as they can almost
justify them to be.


My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in
  my county keeps going up, never down.   So the same guy who
  got it early and died, does he still count?   How about the
  ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about the people who
  tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
  it', too.


Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And
  the more dead people, the better.
--


  
  
  
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05
  PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:


  

  I see
  young kids in places like stores wearing masks and
  they seem quite OK with it, like having a backpack or
  a hat, this is what we do, no big deal go ahead and
  play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am
  reminded of my observation that people who need
  glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot better than
  those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
   
  On the
  other hand, there are some photos circulating of high
  school reopening in states like Georgia that are quite
  frightening, I hope this is just social media taking
  things out of context.  I understand at that age the
  peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really
  going on all over the place, we have an experiment
  going on and may not like the results.  Maybe we will
  discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but
  so far, magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
   
   
  

  From: AF 
  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

  
   
  

  
But
there should be a E ticket for the special
people...
  
  

  
 
  
  

  From: Bill Prince 


  Sent: Wednesday, August
  5, 2020 9:19 AM


  To: af@af.afmug.com



  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT
  Good news?

  


   

  
  
I say
treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first,
then essential workers, then people in assisted
care and prisons.
bp

 

  On
  8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  I see these articles
  debating who should get a vaccine first, some
  arguing young people should get it because
  they have more years ahead of them, basically
  let the old people die.  But if young people
  keep acting like idiots, maybe they don’t have
  that many years after all.  If the virus
  doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt
  will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short
  lives, with all the partying.
   
  Grumble, grumble.
   
   
  
   

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[chuck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDDAYxoFNWs

From: justsumname 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be as 
awful as they can almost justify them to be. 

My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps going 
up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he still 
count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about the 
people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got it', too.

Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead people, 
the better.
--


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite OK 
with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big deal go 
ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded of my 
observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot 
better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.



  On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school reopening 
in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is just social 
media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age the peer pressure 
to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over the place, we have an 
experiment going on and may not like the results.  Maybe we will discover that 
teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far, magical thinking hasn’t worked 
out so good.





  From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



  But there should be a E ticket for the special people...



  From: Bill Prince 

  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM

  To: af@af.afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



  I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential workers, 
then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some arguing 
young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.



Grumble, grumble.





From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% 
positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a majority 
of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and partying.  

On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

  When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels 
the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and 
Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.  

  Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but 
4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think some of 
the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.  




  On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.  



From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



I think the most important chart is deaths per population 



Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 


 
  
  
  
  
  
  


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT Good news?



Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.






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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[justsumname]

There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be
as awful as they can almost justify them to be.

My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
it', too.

Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
people, the better.
--


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
>
>
> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
>
>
> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some arguing
> young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them,
> basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like
> idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>
>
>
> Grumble, grumble.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
>
>
> Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
> positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a
> majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and
> partying.
>
> On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels the
> only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and
> Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.
>
> Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but
> 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think
> some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.
>
>
> On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
>
>
> I think the most important chart is deaths per population
>
>
>
> *Gino* *Villarini *
> Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>
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> 
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>
> *From: *AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  on
> behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com 
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM
> *To: *mailto:af@af.afmug.com  mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Good news?
>
>
>
> Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Assignment Sheet

[Jaime Solorza]

Bio foggers

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> So a pressure washer, or maybe a hot water pressure washer?  Not actually
> a steam cleaner?
>
>
>
> Is a Hotsy like a Hotsy Totsy?  Does this involve Debralee Scott?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:16 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Assignment Sheet
>
>
>
> I have a gasoline/kerosene Hotsy.
>
> And a natural gas/electricity Hotsy.
>
>
>
> I really like both of them.  The natural gas/electric one is nice as you
> never have to go get fuel.  Just turn it on.
>
> It is mounted inside with a hatch for the hose going out the wall of the
> shop.
>
>
>
> The gasoline unit is great as it is on wheels and you can take it
> somewhere as long as you have a supply of water.
>
> The place where they really shine is when you have to work on equipment.
> Nothing like having it factory clean before it comes inside.
>
> No inches of grease and dirt buildup to dig through.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:38 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Assignment Sheet
>
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> What steam cleaners are you talking about? I might be interested if they
> don't make too big a mess. I have a high top van (extended roof) that won't
> fit in any automated wash.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:02 AM  wrote:
>
> End of shift we have one of those monster dumpsters that they pull up
> beside and clean the inside and outside of the truck.  We also have two
> steam cleaners to wash the outsides when they start looking bad.
>
>
>
> *From:* can...@believewireless.net
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 8:50 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Assignment Sheet
>
>
>
> Who checks behind the employee? Do they check daily? Weekly? Unchecked, a
> truck can go from perfect to nightmare in a week.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:07 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> We have a pre shift inspection check list and a minimum equipment and tool
> list.  Our employer handbook speaks to what is expected.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have an example of a sheet for vehicle assignment to
> employees?
> >
> > Something that goes over responsibilities, keeping it clean, driving
> safely, employee requirement for maintenance.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Ken Hohhof]

I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite OK 
with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big deal go 
ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded of my 
observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it a lot 
better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.

 

On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school reopening 
in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is just social 
media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age the peer pressure 
to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over the place, we have an 
experiment going on and may not like the results.  Maybe we will discover that 
teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far, magical thinking hasn’t worked 
out so good.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

But there should be a E ticket for the special people...

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential workers, 
then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp

 

On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some arguing 
young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.

 

Grumble, grumble.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% positive 
yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a majority of new 
cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and partying.  

On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels the only 
numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and Deaths/infections.  The 
total numbers don't mean anything.  

Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but 4.6% 
positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think some of the 
'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.  




On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.  

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

I think the most important chart is deaths per population 

 

Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 


  

  

   

   

   

 

  

   



  
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Guaynabo, PR 00968

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM
To: mailto:af@af.afmug.com mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[chuck]

But there should be a E ticket for the special people...

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential workers, 
then people in assisted care and prisons.


bp


On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some arguing 
young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.

   

  Grumble, grumble.

   

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

   

  Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% 
positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a majority 
of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and partying.  

  On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels the 
only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and Deaths/infections.  
The total numbers don't mean anything.  

Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but 4.6% 
positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think some of the 
'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.  



On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.  

   

  From: Gino A. Villarini 

  Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

   

  I think the most important chart is deaths per population 

   

  Gino Villarini 
  Founder/President
  @gvillarini
  t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 


   





   
   


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  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
  Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM
  To: mailto:af@af.afmug.com mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

   

  Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then
  essential workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.

bp



On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I see these
articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
arguing young people should get it because they have more
years ahead of them, basically let the old people die.  But
if young people keep acting like idiots, maybe they don’t
have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
 
Grumble,
grumble.
 
 

  
From: AF
 On Behalf Of Nate
Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
  

 
Illinois 7 day
  positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
  positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports
  are a majority of new cases are from college age kids coming
  back to campuses and partying.  

  On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:


  When I was
seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels
the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests,
and Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean
anything.  

Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last
week, but 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive
a month ago.  I think some of the 'bad' states are upwards
of 10% positive.  


  
On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:
  
  

  

  Yeahbut
  it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened. 
  


  

   


  
From: Gino
A. Villarini 
  
  
Sent:
Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
  
  
To:
AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  
  
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] OT Good news?
  

  
  
 
  


  I think the most important chart
is deaths per population 
   
  Gino Villarini
  
  Founder/President
  @gvillarini
  t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
  

  

  


  


   


   


   


   


   



  

  
  
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From: AF 
on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57
AM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
  
  
 
  
  

  
Not wanting to jinx
this but it looks promising.
  
  

  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Ken Hohhof]

I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some arguing 
young people should get it because they have more years ahead of them, 
basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting like idiots, 
maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus doesn’t get 
them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have enjoyed their short 
lives, with all the partying.

 

Grumble, grumble.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% positive 
yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a majority of new 
cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and partying.  

On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels the only 
numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and Deaths/infections.  The 
total numbers don't mean anything.  

Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but 4.6% 
positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think some of the 
'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.  



On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.  

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

I think the most important chart is deaths per population 

 

Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
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From: AF    on behalf 
of Chuck McCown   
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   

Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM
To:   "af@af.afmug.com"   

Subject: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

 

Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.




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Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile help

[Brian Webster]

You might have the land cover turned on or off. Go to options -> Toolbar and 
this window shows up, check the landcover option and then it should show green 
when active on the toolbar, red when off.



 

 

Landcover on:



 

Landcover off:



 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile help

 

Do any Radio Mobile experts know why I sometimes have tree coverage when I use 
the radio link option and sometimes I don't?  We have at least one other 
employee that has this problem.



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Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile help

[Colin Stanners]

Could you take 2 screenshots, one of when it's working, one when it's not?

Is all your landcover data cached/downloaded to your PC so that it doesn't
need to re-download every time, possibly failing if the server is busy?

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:29 AM Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> Do any Radio Mobile experts know why I sometimes have tree coverage when I
> use the radio link option and sometimes I don't?  We have at least one
> other employee that has this problem.
>
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[AFMUG] Radio Mobile help

[Jay Weekley]

  
  
Do any Radio Mobile experts know why I sometimes have tree coverage
when I use the radio link option and sometimes I don't?  We have at
least one other employee that has this problem.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[Nate Burke]

Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9% 
positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a 
majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses 
and partying.


On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels 
the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and 
Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.


Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but 
4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I 
think some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.



On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

I think the most important chart is deaths per population

*GinoVillarini
*Founder/President
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Tortillas

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

My experience is that tortillas freeze well... I've been known to buy the
same industrial size bags and freeze them, and then pull them out a bit at
a time.   I usually try to buy the ones which are conveniently packaged
into smaller inside packages where I can, and if not, I'll separate them so
I can pull out a modest stack to have some thawed out.

I've also been known to keep the not-frozen-ones in the fridge, which seems
to prolong freshness as long as you're planning on heating them up (and why
wouldn't you)?   The trick is that refrigerating pretty much any flour
product (such as bread) results in some sort of chemical change which is
reversed by heating above room temperature.

I don't find that doing either of the above makes enough difference to
matter with your garden-variety store-bought tortillas.   On the other
hand, in a previous life, I worked a contract in the SF bay area for 6
months and so I also know that eating your typical store-bought tortilla
just isn't the same as eating one which came out of the tortilla factory
within the last couple days.   Especially corn ones.  Nothing beats a
freshly made corn tortilla...


On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:40 PM  wrote:

> My wife is always buying industrial size bags of tortillas.
> As if we still had a household of 12 people.
>
> I am well known for eating slightly expired (normally less than a decade)
> food.
> But I have never liked the idea of old tortillas.  The corn ones start to
> break if they get too old.
>
> I guess I don’t need to worry:
>
> https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/07/nasa-launched-taco-bells-tortillas-into-space
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