Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tacos de carne asada

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 6:17 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Things only white people of a certain age eat:
>
> Miracle Whip
>
> Velveeta cheese
>
> Wonder Bread
>
>
>
> You didn’t have any Velveeta on that sandwich, did you?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 6:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tacos de carne asada
>
>
>
> I had a sliced peach and sliced habanero sandwich with miracle whip
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 5:45 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Baked potato and charro beans with my first bubbly in 4 weeks
>
> .
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Bill Prince]

  
  
That's OK. She can take it off.

bp



On 8/8/2020 4:13 PM, Chuck McCown
  wrote:


  
  She won’t put it on.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Jaime
  Solorza  wrote:
  

  
  

  Wear a Butler suit or wife in French maid
outfit and take picture..
Ducking under my phone
  
  
  
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 4:09
  PM Chuck McCown  wrote:


  Washing the window and changing the clock
battery.  Clock ran down a couple of years ago.  First
time those windows have been washed in 10 years.  I was
unaware of this little man lift until a few days ago. 
We were planning to put up scaffolding.  The lift is
$85/day and will fit through the front door.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 8, 2020, at 3:46 PM,
Ken Hohhof 
wrote:

  


  

  Oh, I see.  Originally I was
looking at a sideways, cropped image.  I thought
the clock said 11:03.
   
  
From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
  Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self
  
   
  
I thought your Butler would
  take care of it.
  
   
  

  On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04
PM Ken Hohhof 
wrote:


  

  I give up.  What is
it, and why?
   
  

  From: AF

On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 8,
2020 3:57 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to
self

  
   
  
If ever building a new home, do not do
this to yourself.
  
Sent from my iPhone
  
  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tacos de carne asada

[Ken Hohhof]

Things only white people of a certain age eat:

Miracle Whip

Velveeta cheese

Wonder Bread

 

You didn’t have any Velveeta on that sandwich, did you?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 6:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tacos de carne asada

 

I had a sliced peach and sliced habanero sandwich with miracle whip

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 5:45 PM Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Baked potato and charro beans with my first bubbly in 4 weeks

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tacos de carne asada

[Steve Jones]

I had a sliced peach and sliced habanero sandwich with miracle whip

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 5:45 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Baked potato and charro beans with my first bubbly in 4 weeks
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Chuck McCown]

She won’t put it on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wear a Butler suit or wife in French maid outfit and take picture..
> Ducking under my phone
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 4:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Washing the window and changing the clock battery.  Clock ran down a couple 
>> of years ago.  First time those windows have been washed in 10 years.  I was 
>> unaware of this little man lift until a few days ago.  We were planning to 
>> put up scaffolding.  The lift is $85/day and will fit through the front door.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 8, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Oh, I see.  Originally I was looking at a sideways, cropped image.  I 
>>> thought the clock said 11:03.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I thought your Butler would take care of it.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I give up.  What is it, and why?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Jenny McCown 
>>> Date: August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
>>> To: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Jaime Solorza]

Wear a Butler suit or wife in French maid outfit and take picture..
Ducking under my phone

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 4:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Washing the window and changing the clock battery.  Clock ran down a
> couple of years ago.  First time those windows have been washed in 10
> years.  I was unaware of this little man lift until a few days ago.  We
> were planning to put up scaffolding.  The lift is $85/day and will fit
> through the front door.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 8, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Oh, I see.  Originally I was looking at a sideways, cropped image.  I
> thought the clock said 11:03.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>
>
>
> I thought your Butler would take care of it.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I give up.  What is it, and why?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT note to self
>
>
>
>
> If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Jenny McCown 
> *Date:* August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Chuck McCown]

Washing the window and changing the clock battery.  Clock ran down a couple of 
years ago.  First time those windows have been washed in 10 years.  I was 
unaware of this little man lift until a few days ago.  We were planning to put 
up scaffolding.  The lift is $85/day and will fit through the front door.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh, I see.  Originally I was looking at a sideways, cropped image.  I thought 
> the clock said 11:03.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>  
> I thought your Butler would take care of it.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> I give up.  What is it, and why?
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>  
> 
> If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Jenny McCown 
> Date: August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
> To: ch...@wbmfg.com
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Chuck McCown]

Yes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> 
> 2nd floor windows where there is no 2nd floor?
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 8/8/2020 2:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> I give up.  What is it, and why?
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to self
>>  
>> 
>> If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Jenny McCown 
>> Date: August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
>> To: ch...@wbmfg.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[Ken Hohhof]

Oh, I see.  Originally I was looking at a sideways, cropped image.  I thought 
the clock said 11:03.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

 

I thought your Butler would take care of it.

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I give up.  What is it, and why?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to self

 


If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.

Sent from my iPhone


Begin forwarded message:

From: Jenny McCown mailto:je...@wbmfg.com> >
Date: August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
To: ch...@wbmfg.com  





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Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

[James Howard]

Next time make sure you can afford the house AND the butler.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 4:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT note to self

I thought your Butler would take care of it.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I give up.  What is it, and why?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:57 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT note to self


If ever building a new home, do not do this to yourself.
Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: Jenny McCown mailto:je...@wbmfg.com>>
Date: August 8, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM MDT
To: ch...@wbmfg.com

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Body in the road

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Missed the dude detail.
A lot of "stuff" seems to happen in that area.

bp



On 8/8/2020 1:59 PM, Chuck McCown
  wrote:


  
  No but the same area.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince
   wrote:
  

  
  

  
  Is this it?
  https://www.newsbreak.com/utah/fairfield/news/1554751097935/woman-in-serious-condition-after-dirt-bike-vs-atv-crash-in-utah-county
  
  
  bp



  On 8/7/2020 7:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
wrote:
  
  


  
This morning my crew was driving to a site through
  the desert on a back road and saw what they thought
  was a large dead animal in the road.
 
As they got closer, the large animal raised a human
  hand.
 
And closer still noticed it was a naked human
  animal.  Dialing 911 while pulling to a halt, they got
  out and noticed it had long hair.  Perhaps a dumped
  rape victim is what they were thinking.  
 
Then they discovered it was a dude.  He said he had
  been in the desert for 3 days.  Was taken out there,
  beaten and left to die.  He was very thirsty.  Was
  mumbling something about needing to get to his car.  
 
So, maybe it will hit the news.  If it does... you
  heard it here first, folks...
 
(The KML is the general area, it could have been 5
  miles either side of this.  They just said 5 mile area
  and this is the 5 mile area).  
  



  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Body in the road

[Chuck McCown]

No but the same area.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is this it?
> 
> https://www.newsbreak.com/utah/fairfield/news/1554751097935/woman-in-serious-condition-after-dirt-bike-vs-atv-crash-in-utah-county
> 
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 8/7/2020 7:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> This morning my crew was driving to a site through the desert on a back road 
>> and saw what they thought was a large dead animal in the road.
>>  
>> As they got closer, the large animal raised a human hand.
>>  
>> And closer still noticed it was a naked human animal.  Dialing 911 while 
>> pulling to a halt, they got out and noticed it had long hair.  Perhaps a 
>> dumped rape victim is what they were thinking. 
>>  
>> Then they discovered it was a dude.  He said he had been in the desert for 3 
>> days.  Was taken out there, beaten and left to die.  He was very thirsty.  
>> Was mumbling something about needing to get to his car. 
>>  
>> So, maybe it will hit the news.  If it does... you heard it here first, 
>> folks...
>>  
>> (The KML is the general area, it could have been 5 miles either side of 
>> this.  They just said 5 mile area and this is the 5 mile area). 
>> 
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[AFMUG] global radome shortage

[Ken Hohhof]

Anybody know why there seem to be no Cambium N000900L021A Radomes?  The ones
that go on ePMP and 450b dishes?

 

Is it because of overwhelming demand?  Or was I the only one buying them?
Or a shortage of a critical component?  (it's just plastic, right?)

 

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[AFMUG] [POLITICS] I'm not Batman

[Ken Hohhof]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/i-m-not-batman-libertarian-presiden
tial-candidate-makes-light-of-bat-bite/ar-BB17JgxG

 

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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Ken Hohhof]

That does appear to be a flaw in the story.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:07 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

& he waited behind instead of driving around?

On 08/08/2020 09:51 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Long time ago someone told me a story about driving along some country 
> highway and stopping behind another car at an intersection with a 
> traffic light.  And a tornado is coming across the fields headed right 
> for them.  There’s not another car for miles, but the guy in front of 
> him wouldn’t go until the light turned green.
> 
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 11:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally
> 
> Lol...
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 8:38 AM Ken Hohhof  > wrote:
> 
> Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.
> 
> *From:* AF  > *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally
> 
> How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you
> were able to get an ASR number from the FCC?
> 
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  > wrote:
> 
> Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower
> that has been there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than
> the power poles between us and the airport.
> 
> It only took them 4 months.
> 
> Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We
> already put up two 18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).
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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Robert Andrews]

& he waited behind instead of driving around?

On 08/08/2020 09:51 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Long time ago someone told me a story about driving along some country 
highway and stopping behind another car at an intersection with a 
traffic light.  And a tornado is coming across the fields headed right 
for them.  There’s not another car for miles, but the guy in front of 
him wouldn’t go until the light turned green.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 11:22 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

Lol...

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 8:38 AM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you
were able to get an ASR number from the FCC?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower
that has been there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than
the power poles between us and the airport.

It only took them 4 months.

Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We
already put up two 18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Body in the road

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Is this it?
https://www.newsbreak.com/utah/fairfield/news/1554751097935/woman-in-serious-condition-after-dirt-bike-vs-atv-crash-in-utah-county


bp



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  wrote:


  
  

  This morning my crew was driving to a site through the
desert on a back road and saw what they thought was a large
dead animal in the road.
   
  As they got closer, the large animal raised a human hand.
   
  And closer still noticed it was a naked human animal. 
Dialing 911 while pulling to a halt, they got out and
noticed it had long hair.  Perhaps a dumped rape victim is
what they were thinking.  
   
  Then they discovered it was a dude.  He said he had been
in the desert for 3 days.  Was taken out there, beaten and
left to die.  He was very thirsty.  Was mumbling something
about needing to get to his car.  
   
  So, maybe it will hit the news.  If it does... you heard
it here first, folks...
   
  (The KML is the general area, it could have been 5 miles
either side of this.  They just said 5 mile area and this is
the 5 mile area).  

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Jaime Solorza]

I have never been a by the book guy...more like a Marine..adapt, improvise,
overcome

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:52 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Long time ago someone told me a story about driving along some country
> highway and stopping behind another car at an intersection with a traffic
> light.  And a tornado is coming across the fields headed right for them.
> There’s not another car for miles, but the guy in front of him wouldn’t go
> until the light turned green.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 11:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally
>
>
>
> Lol...
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 8:38 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally
>
>
>
> How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were
> able to get an ASR number from the FCC?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has
> been there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles
> between us and the airport.
>
>
>
> It only took them 4 months.
>
>
>
> Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up
> two 18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).
>
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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Ken Hohhof]

Long time ago someone told me a story about driving along some country highway 
and stopping behind another car at an intersection with a traffic light.  And a 
tornado is coming across the fields headed right for them.  There’s not another 
car for miles, but the guy in front of him wouldn’t go until the light turned 
green.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 11:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

 

Lol...

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 8:38 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

 

How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were able 
to get an ASR number from the FCC?

 

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has been 
there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles between us and 
the airport.

 

It only took them 4 months.

 

Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up two 
18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).

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Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[Mike Hammett]

The productivity of the land will really cause that number to vary. It could be 
as little as 1.5 acres per cow-calf up to over 5 acres per cow-calf if your 
ground sucks and doesn't produce much forage. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 4:18:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 


How many cattle will 5 acres handle reasonably (and I'm not talking feed lot)? 
Here, 5 acres might handle 3 or 4 cattle, and that might be pushing it; 
especially in summer. 
bp
 
On 8/7/2020 1:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 





We have one dude with 75 head of Texas Longhorns. His neighbors “love it”. 
The county passed an ordinance limiting him to 20 I think. The old ordinance 
limited him to 4. But they didn’t enforce it. 
That was a bit too low in my opinion. 
He has hinted that it will be an armed confrontation if they come for his 
cattle. 

But most have 2-3 horses if they have any animals at all. 
The dirt here is crap so there are very few truck garden types of things. 

But yeah, they all have this idea of being self sufficient on their ranchette. 




From: castarritt 
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 2:51 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 


And all of them call their little 5 acre tract "the ranch". 


On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:13 PM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 


In my area, they move out to a 5 acre plot. They end up with a house and 
4.5 acres of highly flammable weeds. Then they take legal action against 
land developers wanting to create more customers for me claiming 1 acre home 
lots are "high density". And they claim to know what the local residents 
"want". I have lived here for 20 years and they have lived here for 2 years 
but they know what I want... 

-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:58 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 

Worse are the people who move to the country then try to 'improve' 
things because they know how to do it better, having lived in the city 
their whole life. 


On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 
> I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now. 
> 
> I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away 
> from 
> Covid. 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM 
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 
> 
> Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your 
> own 
> well and put in a septic tank. 
> Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators. 
> Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter. 
> 
> Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type 
> of infrastructure. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Nate Burke 
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM 
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 
> 
> I just had a guy this week move out of the city. 'I was getting 350mb for 
> what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'. I refused to move. He 
> signed up anyway. Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s. 
> 
> On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 
>> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is 
>> people wanting more upstream. Because 3 people in the house are on 
>> Zoom conferences, stuff like that. Or they are live streaming events 
>> on Facebook. 
>> 
>> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this 
>> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting 
>> me to match it. 
>> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more 
>> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and 
>> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more. So they shop 
>> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can 
>> get more without paying more or doing any work. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming 
>> 
>> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week. 
>> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact. 
>> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert. 
>> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it 
>> was annoying. 
>> 
>> No pixilation here. I love that the computer now not only shows the 
>> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as 
>> giving the speed. 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Jaime Solorza]

Lol...

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 8:38 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally
>
>
>
> How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were
> able to get an ASR number from the FCC?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has
> been there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles
> between us and the airport.
>
>
>
> It only took them 4 months.
>
>
>
> Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up
> two 18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[Ken Hohhof]

McD hamburgers seem tasteless to me, actually I’m not fond of fast food 
burgers, even the the $7 ones.  Have never understood the popularity of Five 
Guys.  I used to occasionally go to Smashburger, and would occasionally get a 
Whopper at BK.  Making burgers at home, the best thing I’ve found is “slider 
buns”.  If the meat sticks out beyond the bun, that’s a good thing.  They are 
also good for fish sandwiches and BBQ beef sandwiches.

 

Best fast food bargain IMHO is Wendys crispy chicken sandwich.  I guess they 
have Jr. Bacon Cheeseburgers and Doublestacks if you really want a burger.  
Menus have been slimmed down during Covid.  Drive thru salads are hard to find.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

 

Around here you have to buy 2 of them to get them for $1 each.  You can get 1 
McChicken and a cheeseburger for $2 also.   That gives me a stomach ache just 
thinking about it…..

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

 

$1 cheeseburger from McD gets the job done for me

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Trey Scarborough   > wrote:
> 
> Well the jokes on them because now it has spread there too. I really think 
> that the uptick in real estate is due to summer normal and people realizing 
> they don't make enough money to live in what they have after loosing an 
> income in there household for some extended period of time. In my household 
> it has turned in to I can't buy a $7 hamburger now because I need to be 
> saving money to buy the next bigger house because she isn't making as much 
> any longer. I try to explain that a $7 hamburger a day only amounts to $2,500 
> a year so it doesn't significantly amount to anything. That doesn't go over 
> well though
> 
>> On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away from
>> Covid.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com%3e> > On 
>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >  >
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>> 
>> Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your own
>> well and put in a septic tank.
>> Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
>> Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.
>> 
>> Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
>> of infrastructure.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>> 
>> I just had a guy this week move out of the city. 'I was getting 350mb for
>> what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'. I refused to move. He
>> signed up anyway. Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.
>> 
>>> On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
>>> people wanting more upstream. Because 3 people in the house are on
>>> Zoom conferences, stuff like that. Or they are live streaming events
>>> on Facebook.
>>> 
>>> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
>>> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
>>> me to match it.
>>> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
>>> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
>>> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more. So they shop
>>> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
>>> get more without paying more or doing any work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com%3e> > On 
>>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
>>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>  >
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> 
>>> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
>>> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
>>> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
>>> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
>>> was annoying.
>>> 
>>> No pixilation here. I love that the computer now not only shows the
>>> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
>>> giving the speed.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm 

Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[Chuck McCown]

The older I get the less food I seem to need.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:40 AM, James Howard  wrote:
> 
> 
> Around here you have to buy 2 of them to get them for $1 each.  You can get 1 
> McChicken and a cheeseburger for $2 also.   That gives me a stomach ache just 
> thinking about it…..
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:20 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>  
> $1 cheeseburger from McD gets the job done for me
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Trey Scarborough  wrote:
> > 
> > Well the jokes on them because now it has spread there too. I really think 
> > that the uptick in real estate is due to summer normal and people realizing 
> > they don't make enough money to live in what they have after loosing an 
> > income in there household for some extended period of time. In my household 
> > it has turned in to I can't buy a $7 hamburger now because I need to be 
> > saving money to buy the next bigger house because she isn't making as much 
> > any longer. I try to explain that a $7 hamburger a day only amounts to 
> > $2,500 a year so it doesn't significantly amount to anything. That doesn't 
> > go over well though
> > 
> >> On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away from
> >> Covid.
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
> >> 
> >> Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your 
> >> own
> >> well and put in a septic tank.
> >> Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
> >> Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.
> >> 
> >> Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
> >> of infrastructure.
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Nate Burke
> >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
> >> 
> >> I just had a guy this week move out of the city. 'I was getting 350mb for
> >> what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'. I refused to move. He
> >> signed up anyway. Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.
> >> 
> >>> On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
> >>> people wanting more upstream. Because 3 people in the house are on
> >>> Zoom conferences, stuff like that. Or they are live streaming events
> >>> on Facebook.
> >>> 
> >>> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
> >>> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
> >>> me to match it.
> >>> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
> >>> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
> >>> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more. So they shop
> >>> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
> >>> get more without paying more or doing any work.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
> >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
> >>> 
> >>> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
> >>> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
> >>> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
> >>> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
> >>> was annoying.
> >>> 
> >>> No pixilation here. I love that the computer now not only shows the
> >>> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
> >>> giving the speed.
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Nate Burke
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
> >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
> >>> 
> >>> I've seen a big uptick in traffic over the last 2 or 3 weeks. Aren't
> >>> major sports starting up again? I'm guessing all the people who
> >>> switched to streaming only over the summer are now streaming the sports.
> >>> 
> >>> I've been dealing with one guy, he is on our lowest plan, and keeps
> >>> complaining that his sports are pixelated. And he's just gotta have
> >>> sports and just doesn't understand why it's not working perfect on his
> >>> 4k TV. I can see he's maxed the connection 'My speed test is only
> >>> 0.25mb and nothing in the house is running now, `still maxed traffic`,
> >>> well the TV is on'
> >>> I'm
> >>> guessing that the Variable bitrate codecs takes more for sports 

Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[James Howard]

Around here you have to buy 2 of them to get them for $1 each.  You can get 1 
McChicken and a cheeseburger for $2 also.   That gives me a stomach ache just 
thinking about it…..

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

$1 cheeseburger from McD gets the job done for me

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Trey Scarborough 
>  wrote:
>
> Well the jokes on them because now it has spread there too. I really think 
> that the uptick in real estate is due to summer normal and people realizing 
> they don't make enough money to live in what they have after loosing an 
> income in there household for some extended period of time. In my household 
> it has turned in to I can't buy a $7 hamburger now because I need to be 
> saving money to buy the next bigger house because she isn't making as much 
> any longer. I try to explain that a $7 hamburger a day only amounts to $2,500 
> a year so it doesn't significantly amount to anything. That doesn't go over 
> well though
>
>> On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away from
>> Covid.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On 
>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>
>> Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your own
>> well and put in a septic tank.
>> Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
>> Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.
>>
>> Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
>> of infrastructure.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>
>> I just had a guy this week move out of the city. 'I was getting 350mb for
>> what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'. I refused to move. He
>> signed up anyway. Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.
>>
>>> On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
>>> people wanting more upstream. Because 3 people in the house are on
>>> Zoom conferences, stuff like that. Or they are live streaming events
>>> on Facebook.
>>>
>>> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
>>> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
>>> me to match it.
>>> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
>>> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
>>> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more. So they shop
>>> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
>>> get more without paying more or doing any work.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF  On 
>>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>>
>>> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
>>> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
>>> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
>>> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
>>> was annoying.
>>>
>>> No pixilation here. I love that the computer now not only shows the
>>> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
>>> giving the speed.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>>
>>> I've seen a big uptick in traffic over the last 2 or 3 weeks. Aren't
>>> major sports starting up again? I'm guessing all the people who
>>> switched to streaming only over the summer are now streaming the sports.
>>>
>>> I've been dealing with one guy, he is on our lowest plan, and keeps
>>> complaining that his sports are pixelated. And he's just gotta have
>>> sports and just doesn't understand why it's not working perfect on his
>>> 4k TV. I can see he's maxed the connection 'My speed test is only
>>> 0.25mb and nothing in the house is running now, `still maxed traffic`,
>>> well the TV is on'
>>> I'm
>>> guessing that the Variable bitrate codecs takes more for sports than
>>> normal TV. I told him to upgrade his package, he said he didn't want
>>> to spend any more money on Internet. He's on Hulu + live TV + Sports,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?

[justsumname]

Govt is highly effective at incentivizing behavior and can be effective at
disincentivizing behavior.


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 4:19 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was involving
> conspiracy?
>
> IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't
> leaks data like a sieve"
>
> 1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the
> aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"
>
> On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants
> exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
> thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows
> how many people involved at each hospital.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
>
> There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be
> as awful as they can almost justify them to be.
>
> My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
> going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
> still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
> the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
> it', too.
>
> Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
> people, the better.
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
>> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
>> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
>> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
>> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
>> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
>> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
>> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
>> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
>> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
>> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of * ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
>> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
>> arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of
>> them, basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting
>> like idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
>> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
>> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Grumble, grumble.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>  *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
>> positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a
>> majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and
>> partying.
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels
>> the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and
>> Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.
>>
>> Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but
>> 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think
>> some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the most important chart is deaths per population
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino* *Villarini *
>> Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[Trey Scarborough]

Well the jokes on them because now it has spread there too. I really 
think that the uptick in real estate is due to summer normal and people 
realizing they don't make enough money to live in what they have after 
loosing an income in there household for some extended period of time.  
In my household it has turned in to I can't buy a $7 hamburger now 
because I need to be saving money to buy the next bigger house because 
she isn't making as much any longer.  I try to explain that a $7 
hamburger a day only amounts to $2,500 a year so it doesn't 
significantly amount to anything. That doesn't go over well though


On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.

I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away from
Covid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your own
well and put in a septic tank.
Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.

Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
of infrastructure.

-Original Message-
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

I just had a guy this week move out of the city.  'I was getting 350mb for
what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'.  I refused to move.  He
signed up anyway.  Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.

On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
people wanting more upstream.  Because 3 people in the house are on
Zoom conferences, stuff like that.  Or they are live streaming events
on Facebook.

The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
me to match it.
I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
streaming services, but they don't want to pay more.  So they shop
around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
get more without paying more or doing any work.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
was annoying.

No pixilation here.  I love that the computer now not only shows the
strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
giving the speed.

-Original Message-
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

I've seen a big uptick in traffic over the last 2 or 3 weeks. Aren't
major sports starting up again?  I'm guessing all the people who
switched to streaming only over the summer are now streaming the sports.

I've been dealing with one guy, he is on our lowest plan, and keeps
complaining that his sports are pixelated.  And he's just gotta have
sports and just doesn't understand why it's not working perfect on his
4k TV.  I can see he's maxed the connection 'My speed test is only
0.25mb and nothing in the house is running now, `still maxed traffic`,
well the TV is on'
I'm
guessing that the Variable bitrate codecs takes more for sports than
normal TV.  I told him to upgrade his package, he said he didn't want
to spend any more money on Internet.  He's on Hulu + live TV + Sports,
so that's already costing him more than what he's paying us, probably
close to what satellite costs.  Then He wanted to know what TV to buy
to make it stream better, I told him that wouldn't help.  Then he
wanted to know what WIFI extender to buy to make it stream better, I
told him that wouldn't help.  But he's claims he is on a tight budget
and can't afford any more for internet.  I told him to put up an
Antenna 'But then I can't get the sportsnet channel'
I told him to go find a new provider and stop calling me then.  'But
I don't like Comcast...'  Tough, but I'm not talking to you anymore if
you're complaining about streaming.  Priorities people have

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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Ken Hohhof]

Well, we used some wrenches and ropes and of course fall protection.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:14 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

 

How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were able 
to get an ASR number from the FCC?

 

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has been 
there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles between us and 
the airport.

 

It only took them 4 months.

 

Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up two 
18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).

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Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

[Kurt Fankhauser]

How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were
able to get an ASR number from the FCC?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has
> been there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles
> between us and the airport.
>
>
>
> It only took them 4 months.
>
>
>
> Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up
> two 18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).
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Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

[Chuck McCown]

No, we are North if that area.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
>  Was your location downwind from the Nevada Test Area?
> 
> On 8/7/20 1:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> We have one dude with 75 head of Texas Longhorns.  His neighbors “love it”.
>> The county passed an ordinance limiting him to 20 I think.  The old 
>> ordinance limited him to 4.  But they didn’t enforce it.
>> That was a bit too low in my opinion. 
>> He has hinted that it will be an armed confrontation if they come for his 
>> cattle. 
>>  
>> But most have 2-3 horses if they have any animals at all.
>> The dirt here is crap so there are very few truck garden types of things. 
>>  
>> But yeah, they all have this idea of being self sufficient on their 
>> ranchette. 
>>  
>> From: castarritt
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 2:51 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>  
>> And all of them call their little 5 acre tract "the ranch".
>>  
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:13 PM  wrote:
>>> In my area, they move out to a 5 acre plot.  They end up with a house and 
>>> 4.5 acres of highly flammable weeds.  Then they take legal action against 
>>> land developers wanting to create more customers for me claiming 1 acre 
>>> home 
>>> lots are "high density".  And they claim to know what the local residents 
>>> "want".  I have lived here for 20 years and they have lived here for 2 
>>> years 
>>> but they know what I want...
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:58 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> 
>>> Worse are the people who move to the country then try to 'improve'
>>> things because they know how to do it better, having lived in the city
>>> their whole life.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> > I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.
>>> >
>>> > I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away 
>>> > from
>>> > Covid.
>>> >
>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> >
>>> > Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your 
>>> > own
>>> > well and put in a septic tank.
>>> > Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
>>> > Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.
>>> >
>>> > Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
>>> > of infrastructure.
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Nate Burke
>>> > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> >
>>> > I just had a guy this week move out of the city.  'I was getting 350mb for
>>> > what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'.  I refused to move.  He
>>> > signed up anyway.  Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.
>>> >
>>> > On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> >> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
>>> >> people wanting more upstream.  Because 3 people in the house are on
>>> >> Zoom conferences, stuff like that.  Or they are live streaming events
>>> >> on Facebook.
>>> >>
>>> >> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
>>> >> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
>>> >> me to match it.
>>> >> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
>>> >> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
>>> >> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more.  So they shop
>>> >> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
>>> >> get more without paying more or doing any work.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
>>> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> >>
>>> >> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
>>> >> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
>>> >> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
>>> >> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
>>> >> was annoying.
>>> >>
>>> >> No pixilation here.  I love that the computer now not only shows the
>>> >> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
>>> >> giving the speed.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: Nate Burke
>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
>>> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
>>> >>
>>> >> I've seen a big uptick in traffic over the last 2 or 3 weeks. Aren't
>>> >> major sports