Re: [AFMUG] 2001: A Space Odyssey, black monolith

[Jaime Solorza]

Listen to this carefullyexplains the whole thing ..
Great alliteration...
https://youtu.be/_pcfZ1OK498

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/cHWs3c3YNs4
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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Steve Jones]

If you're near a city, it's not an issue, cities have free no symptom
testing, simply send your guys. Otherwise find a service, find the most
comfortable spot to hold your ankles and send them

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 9:00 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Looks like it’s a PCR test.  Sample collected at home and then sent to a
> lab, results in 1-2 days.  That’s according to their website.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs
>
>
>
> Is pixel an anti body test?
>
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Seems like testing is tricky.  How long will it take to get results?  And
> if you’ve been exposed, where are you in the progression as far as
> symptoms, contagiousness, and viral load being detectable by the particular
> test.  I think the home tests are antibody tests which will be a lot less
> sensitive than a PCR test which first amplifies the DNA but takes longer to
> get results.  So if you think you’ve been exposed, the safe thing is to
> isolate while waiting for your test results, and probably get another test
> in a few days.
>
>
>
> Supposedly you can get results faster by going to a private lab and paying
> $100 or $200.  Football teams get same day results I think.
>
>
>
> If the objective is to avoid liability, who knows?  The companies that
> take everybody’s temperature at the beginning of the day, seems like that’s
> not worth much.  Would getting tested once a week be considered enough?
> Could a lawyer even answer that?  My IANAL gut feeling is keep your
> distance, use hand sanitizer, wear a mask if you need to work inside in the
> same room with the customer.  I see some commercials where companies say
> they sanitize their tools between jobs.  Some of this is probably
> performance art to avoid liability or make the customer feel comfortable.
> But some customers will be offended if you mask up, depending greatly on
> how rural the area and the political affiliation of the customer.
>
>
>
> The more I think about it, we’re screwed no matter what.  But supposedly
> the real reason Mitch is balking at another relief bill is to get immunity
> for businesses included.  Hopefully not just for big corporations.  In any
> case, I don’t see how the lawyers could sue every business in America.
> Well, I may be underestimating lawyers.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs
>
>
>
> I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if
> you did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the
> home tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability
> insurer, not your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.
>
> It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines,
> there will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP
> killed grampa" could decimate a company in a small area
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove
> you had exposure?
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them
> weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to
> donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies.
> Probably dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has
> a rapid test site
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone
> have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what
> nursing homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Steve Jones]

I love my mom. If I brought canned pumpkin pie to her house you would read
about a weird dismembered  body found along a rail line

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 8:57 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You’ve got to use canned pumpkin, like the Pilgrims did at the first
> Thanksgiving.
>
>
>
> The variety they use for canning is different than the jack-o-lantern
> decorative types.  Although some of the differences have to do with ease of
> harvesting and processing them.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> Tested it. Nope. The spice didn't come through, both the store bought and
> last years were good. Wondering if the particular pumpkin cross bred with a
> potato and was a flavor absorber. Was a pumpkin that came from a fall
> festival.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:21 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> No, just the filling. I considered that, could be we cant taste the
> pumpkin pie spice mix, that would be interesting if it could take
> independent flavors out of a mix. I would love if whatever it is in
> stuffing i cant stomach to go away,not smells so good, but I'll blow chunks
> if I swallow it. Every year I try stuffing hoping taste buds changed.
>
> We have two she froze last year, ill try one of those soon and see if it's
> the rona
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if you’re
> saying the whole family had it.  That’s supposed to be a hallmark side
> effect, and one that lingers.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had no
> flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn
> syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But
> checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and
> Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.
>
>
>
> Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between
> evaporated and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but
> condensed and sweetened for some reason always go together.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
> one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one.
>
> The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
> mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
> (really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
> this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
> uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.
>
> There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
> pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
> over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.
>
> *Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*
>
>- 1 ½ cups brown sugar
>- 1 tsp. salt
>- 3 tsp. cinnamon
>- 2 tsp. ground ginger
>- 1 tsp. ground cloves
>- 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
>- 4 large eggs
>- 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
>- 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack
>
> Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
> sugar & spices, and ending with
> pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
> Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
>
> Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
> F., and continue baking for an
> additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
> comes out clean.
> This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's
> pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
> number of years.
>
> An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in
> a pan on the stovetop until it is
> "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it
> from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
> and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
> quite a bit "fluffier" than your
> typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
> mixture into a semi-baked pie
> shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
> heaped high above the shell.
> Use the same done-ness test as above.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At
> least give us some food porn.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Ken Hohhof]

Looks like it’s a PCR test.  Sample collected at home and then sent to a lab, 
results in 1-2 days.  That’s according to their website.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

 

Is pixel an anti body test?





On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



Seems like testing is tricky.  How long will it take to get results?  And if 
you’ve been exposed, where are you in the progression as far as symptoms, 
contagiousness, and viral load being detectable by the particular test.  I 
think the home tests are antibody tests which will be a lot less sensitive than 
a PCR test which first amplifies the DNA but takes longer to get results.  So 
if you think you’ve been exposed, the safe thing is to isolate while waiting 
for your test results, and probably get another test in a few days.

 

Supposedly you can get results faster by going to a private lab and paying $100 
or $200.  Football teams get same day results I think.

 

If the objective is to avoid liability, who knows?  The companies that take 
everybody’s temperature at the beginning of the day, seems like that’s not 
worth much.  Would getting tested once a week be considered enough?  Could a 
lawyer even answer that?  My IANAL gut feeling is keep your distance, use hand 
sanitizer, wear a mask if you need to work inside in the same room with the 
customer.  I see some commercials where companies say they sanitize their tools 
between jobs.  Some of this is probably performance art to avoid liability or 
make the customer feel comfortable.  But some customers will be offended if you 
mask up, depending greatly on how rural the area and the political affiliation 
of the customer.

 

The more I think about it, we’re screwed no matter what.  But supposedly the 
real reason Mitch is balking at another relief bill is to get immunity for 
businesses included.  Hopefully not just for big corporations.  In any case, I 
don’t see how the lawyers could sue every business in America.  Well, I may be 
underestimating lawyers.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

 

I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if you 
did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the home 
tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability insurer, not 
your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.

It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines, there 
will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP killed grampa" 
could decimate a company in a small area

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove you 
had exposure?






On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:



They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them 
weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to 
donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies. Probably 
dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid test 
site

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone have 
any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what nursing homes 
are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Matt Hoppes]

Looks like some of the online testing services offer bulk test purchases for 
just this purpose!

> On Nov 26, 2020, at 9:53 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is pixel an anti body test?
> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Seems like testing is tricky.  How long will it take to get results?  And if 
>> you’ve been exposed, where are you in the progression as far as symptoms, 
>> contagiousness, and viral load being detectable by the particular test.  I 
>> think the home tests are antibody tests which will be a lot less sensitive 
>> than a PCR test which first amplifies the DNA but takes longer to get 
>> results.  So if you think you’ve been exposed, the safe thing is to isolate 
>> while waiting for your test results, and probably get another test in a few 
>> days.
>>  
>> Supposedly you can get results faster by going to a private lab and paying 
>> $100 or $200.  Football teams get same day results I think.
>>  
>> If the objective is to avoid liability, who knows?  The companies that take 
>> everybody’s temperature at the beginning of the day, seems like that’s not 
>> worth much.  Would getting tested once a week be considered enough?  Could a 
>> lawyer even answer that?  My IANAL gut feeling is keep your distance, use 
>> hand sanitizer, wear a mask if you need to work inside in the same room with 
>> the customer.  I see some commercials where companies say they sanitize 
>> their tools between jobs.  Some of this is probably performance art to avoid 
>> liability or make the customer feel comfortable.  But some customers will be 
>> offended if you mask up, depending greatly on how rural the area and the 
>> political affiliation of the customer.
>>  
>> The more I think about it, we’re screwed no matter what.  But supposedly the 
>> real reason Mitch is balking at another relief bill is to get immunity for 
>> businesses included.  Hopefully not just for big corporations.  In any case, 
>> I don’t see how the lawyers could sue every business in America.  Well, I 
>> may be underestimating lawyers.
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:36 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs
>>  
>> I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if 
>> you did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the 
>> home tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability insurer, 
>> not your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.
>> It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines, 
>> there will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP 
>> killed grampa" could decimate a company in a small area
>>  
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove 
>> you had exposure?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them 
>> weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to 
>> donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies. Probably 
>> dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid 
>> test site
>>  
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone 
>> have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what 
>> nursing homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] Giving Away an interference Google sheet I spent 1k on for free

[Timothy Steele]

Thanks to all that reached out for a copy

sorry for the late reply

let me know if it helps

if you run into issues I can forward you to the engineer that helped me
with it

or if you would like to contribute to its function I would be happy to host
an updated version for all

as part of WISPConsults Lab program https://wispconsult.com/labs/

I try to make helpful internal projects of our's free and open-source with
basic features



On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 5:01 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Wow that is quite the offer Tim!
> Thank you, I’ll send you a dm with email address.  Can send ya some beer
> money too lol  cheers!
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:37 AM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I paid an engineer around $1K to make this google sheet we use internally
>> that seems to be helping
>>
>> it's limited to 400 Devices right now due to database limitations
>>
>> but after you fill in all the data it will tell you what AP's are
>> creating self-interference here is a screenshot
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>> I decided to give it to any WISP that wants it for FREE
>> all I ask is that you send me an email at t...@wispconsult.com
>> with your Gmail address you want it shared to
>>
>> I will Make a Copy and share it with you then you can copy it to your own
>> Google Drive
>>
>> Excited to see how much farther others can take this
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Ken Hohhof]

You’ve got to use canned pumpkin, like the Pilgrims did at the first 
Thanksgiving.

 

The variety they use for canning is different than the jack-o-lantern 
decorative types.  Although some of the differences have to do with ease of 
harvesting and processing them.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

Tested it. Nope. The spice didn't come through, both the store bought and last 
years were good. Wondering if the particular pumpkin cross bred with a potato 
and was a flavor absorber. Was a pumpkin that came from a fall festival.

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:21 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

No, just the filling. I considered that, could be we cant taste the pumpkin pie 
spice mix, that would be interesting if it could take independent flavors out 
of a mix. I would love if whatever it is in stuffing i cant stomach to go 
away,not smells so good, but I'll blow chunks if I swallow it. Every year I try 
stuffing hoping taste buds changed.

We have two she froze last year, ill try one of those soon and see if it's the 
rona

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if you’re saying 
the whole family had it.  That’s supposed to be a hallmark side effect, and one 
that lingers.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had no 
flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn syrup 
instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But checking the 
ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and Nestle/Carnation), they 
both say milk and sugar.

 

Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between evaporated and 
condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but condensed and sweetened 
for some reason always go together.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just one 
with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one. 

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when 
mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs 
(really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that this 
uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and uses 
sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of pie. 
It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly over the 
stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.

Enhanced Pumpkin Pie

*   1 ½ cups brown sugar
*   1 tsp. salt
*   3 tsp. cinnamon
*   2 tsp. ground ginger
*   1 tsp. ground cloves
*   1 tsp. pumpkin spice
*   4 large eggs
*   2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
*   29 oz. pure pumpkin pack

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with sugar 
& spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350° F., 
and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center comes 
out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's pumpkin 
pack, but evolved over a
number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in a pan 
on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it from 
sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become quite a 
bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed mixture 
into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be 
heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At least 
give us some food porn.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

I have a 

Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Matt Hoppes]

Is pixel an anti body test?

> On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Seems like testing is tricky.  How long will it take to get results?  And if 
> you’ve been exposed, where are you in the progression as far as symptoms, 
> contagiousness, and viral load being detectable by the particular test.  I 
> think the home tests are antibody tests which will be a lot less sensitive 
> than a PCR test which first amplifies the DNA but takes longer to get 
> results.  So if you think you’ve been exposed, the safe thing is to isolate 
> while waiting for your test results, and probably get another test in a few 
> days.
>  
> Supposedly you can get results faster by going to a private lab and paying 
> $100 or $200.  Football teams get same day results I think.
>  
> If the objective is to avoid liability, who knows?  The companies that take 
> everybody’s temperature at the beginning of the day, seems like that’s not 
> worth much.  Would getting tested once a week be considered enough?  Could a 
> lawyer even answer that?  My IANAL gut feeling is keep your distance, use 
> hand sanitizer, wear a mask if you need to work inside in the same room with 
> the customer.  I see some commercials where companies say they sanitize their 
> tools between jobs.  Some of this is probably performance art to avoid 
> liability or make the customer feel comfortable.  But some customers will be 
> offended if you mask up, depending greatly on how rural the area and the 
> political affiliation of the customer.
>  
> The more I think about it, we’re screwed no matter what.  But supposedly the 
> real reason Mitch is balking at another relief bill is to get immunity for 
> businesses included.  Hopefully not just for big corporations.  In any case, 
> I don’t see how the lawyers could sue every business in America.  Well, I may 
> be underestimating lawyers.
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:36 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs
>  
> I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if 
> you did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the 
> home tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability insurer, 
> not your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.
> It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines, 
> there will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP killed 
> grampa" could decimate a company in a small area
>  
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove 
> you had exposure?
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them 
> weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to 
> donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies. Probably 
> dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid 
> test site
>  
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone 
> have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what nursing 
> homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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[AFMUG] 2001: A Space Odyssey, black monolith

[Chuck McCown via AF]

https://youtu.be/cHWs3c3YNs4


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Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

[Chuck McCown via AF]

2001 Space Odyssey 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wasn’t there in 2015..
>  
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> From: AF 
> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:26 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
> 
> It appears to be modeled off of 2001. 
>  
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:34 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
>  
> Saw a short video of someone walking up & around it. The column appears from 
> what I saw to be triangular (as opposed to just a rectangular slab)? It was a 
> very short video, and I may have been fooled by the angles or something.
> 
>  
> 
> bp
> 
> On 11/25/2020 4:09 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Seems very shiny to be several years old. Must be alien metal. Or perhaps 
> it’s a passive reflector. Seems kind of small though. Those old billboard 
> style things on top of mountains were huge. Maybe it’s a millimeter wave 
> passive reflector. 5G “ultra wideband” must be coming to the Utah desert.
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:40 PM
> To: 'Sean Heskett' ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> 
> Cc: Chuck McCown 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
> It must have been there for a few years as the google earth image is a bit 
> old.
> I am sure the BLM will remove it soon. They get pissy about things like that. 
> Looks to me like they saw cut the sandstone and embedded it a bit.
> I am hopeful they sunk some rock anchors and grouted them in. Hopefully it 
> has a nice steel interior structure that will make it very difficult to 
> remove.
> From: Sean Heskett [mailto:af...@zirkel.us] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:36 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Cc: Chuck McCown 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
> oh cool! I regularly fly over that area when going between CO and San 
> Diego...gonna have to make a little diversion next time ;-)
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

[Steve Jones]

I've been using thyme alot more, particularly in chicken soup. I'm not even
sure it's a flavor as much as an enhancer, like an enricher

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 8:27 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Smoked one was rubbed with brown sugar, smoked paprika, garlic power,
> onion power, thyme, salt pepper and a bit of cayenne.
>
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> Thursday, November 26, 2020, 5:24:19 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> What'd you rub the cut pieces with?
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:23 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> I did 2, one oven one smoked.
> Has issues and late start so had to smoke at 275 instead of 225. Thought
> this was gonna be jerky, but nope, tender and juicy.
> That's the good thing about most of the family having the Rona over the
> last month, people limits dont apply
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 3:21 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Very nice.
>
> But your claim that the birds are resting reminds me of the Monty Python
> Dead Parrot Sketch.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 3:06 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission
>
> Usually  don't  have  much  to  post for Food Porn.  But here are my 3
> turkeys.  They are resting for now, but dinner will be real soon.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
>
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Steve Jones]

Tested it. Nope. The spice didn't come through, both the store bought and
last years were good. Wondering if the particular pumpkin cross bred with a
potato and was a flavor absorber. Was a pumpkin that came from a fall
festival.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:21 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> No, just the filling. I considered that, could be we cant taste the
> pumpkin pie spice mix, that would be interesting if it could take
> independent flavors out of a mix. I would love if whatever it is in
> stuffing i cant stomach to go away,not smells so good, but I'll blow chunks
> if I swallow it. Every year I try stuffing hoping taste buds changed.
> We have two she froze last year, ill try one of those soon and see if it's
> the rona
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if you’re
>> saying the whole family had it.  That’s supposed to be a hallmark side
>> effect, and one that lingers.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>>
>>
>>
>> My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had
>> no flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn
>> syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But
>> checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and
>> Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between
>> evaporated and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but
>> condensed and sweetened for some reason always go together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>>
>>
>>
>> Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
>> one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one.
>>
>> The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
>> mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
>> (really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
>> this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
>> uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.
>>
>> There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind
>> of pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard
>> constantly over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.
>>
>> *Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*
>>
>>- 1 ½ cups brown sugar
>>- 1 tsp. salt
>>- 3 tsp. cinnamon
>>- 2 tsp. ground ginger
>>- 1 tsp. ground cloves
>>- 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
>>- 4 large eggs
>>- 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
>>- 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack
>>
>> Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
>> sugar & spices, and ending with
>> pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
>> Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
>>
>> Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
>> F., and continue baking for an
>> additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
>> comes out clean.
>> This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's
>> pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
>> number of years.
>>
>> An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in
>> a pan on the stovetop until it is
>> "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it
>> from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
>> and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
>> quite a bit "fluffier" than your
>> typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
>> mixture into a semi-baked pie
>> shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should
>> be heaped high above the shell.
>> Use the same done-ness test as above.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At
>> least give us some food porn.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of
>> the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives
>> will only eat the pies I make. We call it "*Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*"
>> (TM)
>>
>> If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year
>> I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move
>> along. I had one 15 oz can left over from last 

Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission


Steve,

Smoked one was rubbed with brown sugar, smoked paprika, garlic power, onion power, thyme, salt pepper and a bit of cayenne.  

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Thursday, November 26, 2020, 5:24:19 PM, you wrote:





What'd you rub the cut pieces with?

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:23 PM Steve Jones  wrote:




I did 2, one oven one smoked.
Has issues and late start so had to smoke at 275 instead of 225. Thought this was gonna be jerky, but nope, tender and juicy.
That's the good thing about most of the family having the Rona over the last month, people limits dont apply 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 3:21 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:




Very nice.

But your claim that the birds are resting reminds me of the Monty Python
Dead Parrot Sketch.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 3:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

Usually  don't  have  much  to  post for Food Porn.  But here are my 3
turkeys.  They are resting for now, but dinner will be real soon.

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Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

[Gino A. Villarini]

Wasn’t there in 2015..


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From: AF 
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
It appears to be modeled off of 2001.

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz


Saw a short video of someone walking up & around it. The column appears from 
what I saw to be triangular (as opposed to just a rectangular slab)? It was a 
very short video, and I may have been fooled by the angles or something.



bp


On 11/25/2020 4:09 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Seems very shiny to be several years old. Must be alien metal. Or perhaps it’s 
a passive reflector. Seems kind of small though. Those old billboard style 
things on top of mountains were huge. Maybe it’s a millimeter wave passive 
reflector. 5G “ultra wideband” must be coming to the Utah desert.
From: AF  On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:40 PM
To: 'Sean Heskett' ; 'AnimalFarm 
Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
It must have been there for a few years as the google earth image is a bit old.
I am sure the BLM will remove it soon. They get pissy about things like that. 
Looks to me like they saw cut the sandstone and embedded it a bit.
I am hopeful they sunk some rock anchors and grouted them in. Hopefully it has 
a nice steel interior structure that will make it very difficult to remove.
From: Sean Heskett [mailto:af...@zirkel.us]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
oh cool! I regularly fly over that area when going between CO and San 
Diego...gonna have to make a little diversion next time ;-)

Sean Heskett
ZIRKEL
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

[Ken Hohhof]

Was Planes Trains and Automobiles a Thanksgiving movie or a Christmas movie?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

 

Me and my sister used to watch that over and over. Good movie.

Mom and dad are watching Chevy chase marathon.

I used to spend every Thanksgiving night at my older sisters and black friday 
was christmas decoration day, I miss that alot. Not doing that is probably why 
I'm a dick now 

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:28 PM Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Home for the Holidays...my go to Thanksgiving movie...

Watching Chicago PD reruns on ION TV...

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I never quite understood why TV stations played The Wizard of Oz every year on 
Thanksgiving.  But apparently some people also listen to Alice’s Restaurant by 
Arlo Guthrie, which does at least peripherally involve Thanksgiving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Ken Hohhof]

Seems like testing is tricky.  How long will it take to get results?  And if 
you’ve been exposed, where are you in the progression as far as symptoms, 
contagiousness, and viral load being detectable by the particular test.  I 
think the home tests are antibody tests which will be a lot less sensitive than 
a PCR test which first amplifies the DNA but takes longer to get results.  So 
if you think you’ve been exposed, the safe thing is to isolate while waiting 
for your test results, and probably get another test in a few days.

 

Supposedly you can get results faster by going to a private lab and paying $100 
or $200.  Football teams get same day results I think.

 

If the objective is to avoid liability, who knows?  The companies that take 
everybody’s temperature at the beginning of the day, seems like that’s not 
worth much.  Would getting tested once a week be considered enough?  Could a 
lawyer even answer that?  My IANAL gut feeling is keep your distance, use hand 
sanitizer, wear a mask if you need to work inside in the same room with the 
customer.  I see some commercials where companies say they sanitize their tools 
between jobs.  Some of this is probably performance art to avoid liability or 
make the customer feel comfortable.  But some customers will be offended if you 
mask up, depending greatly on how rural the area and the political affiliation 
of the customer.

 

The more I think about it, we’re screwed no matter what.  But supposedly the 
real reason Mitch is balking at another relief bill is to get immunity for 
businesses included.  Hopefully not just for big corporations.  In any case, I 
don’t see how the lawyers could sue every business in America.  Well, I may be 
underestimating lawyers.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

 

I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if you 
did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the home 
tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability insurer, not 
your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.

It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines, there 
will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP killed grampa" 
could decimate a company in a small area

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove you 
had exposure?





On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:



They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them 
weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to 
donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies. Probably 
dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid test 
site

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone have 
any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what nursing homes 
are doing where they test the staff every week?
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[AFMUG] OT - Happy Thanksgiving FCC, 'cuz I know you're listening

[Ken Hohhof]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcxqNEBmNno

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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Robert]

They are ramping up for production on the home tests after, what I read, 
was a surprise to them about the FDA approval on the first try for home 
tests.   30 minute results with a 95+% efficacy is exactly what we need 
for making the world a little more "normal"


On 11/26/20 3:36 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd 
bet if you did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. 
They have the home tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to 
your liability insurer, not your health insurer, they may swing you a 
deal.
It's a really good question though, especially with the looming 
vaccines, there will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review 
stating "X ISP killed grampa" could decimate a company in a small area


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have
to prove you had exposure?


On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and
send them weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing.
Can also send them to donate blood at red cross, they test every
donation for antibodies. Probably dont want to send them all the
way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid test site

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every
week does anyone have any resources for getting repeat tests
for them, similar to what nursing homes are doing where they
test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

[Steve Jones]

Me and my sister used to watch that over and over. Good movie.
Mom and dad are watching Chevy chase marathon.
I used to spend every Thanksgiving night at my older sisters and black
friday was christmas decoration day, I miss that alot. Not doing that is
probably why I'm a dick now

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:28 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Home for the Holidays...my go to Thanksgiving movie...
> Watching Chicago PD reruns on ION TV...
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> I never quite understood why TV stations played The Wizard of Oz every
>> year on Thanksgiving.  But apparently some people also listen to Alice’s
>> Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie, which does at least peripherally involve
>> Thanksgiving.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Robert]

& std process we work from is 1/2 up front, 1/2 at completion and all 
change orders paid before work on changes started.   Seems to keep 
everyone on the same page.   And if you can't figure out an agreed price 
for the changes ahead of time, then no changes approved.


On 11/26/20 3:15 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


I read a story on Quora from an NYC flooring contractor about this 
topic.  As he described it, the Trump organization wants to pay you 
whatever was originally quoted, but the contractor will raise the 
number if the scope of work has changed.  The scope often changes on 
large projects.  So they bill $100,000 and Trump pays $70,000.  One 
says "he stiffed me", and the other says "I paid him everything I owed".


If that's the truth, then I can see how two parties would tell that 
story differently, but one of those parties is incorrect.



On 11/26/2020 5:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


If that’s what you want to believe.

Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m 
surprised he didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the 
wrong person.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try 
and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a 
rally 2 years ago


Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an 
issue with that are questionable


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince > wrote:


He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business
associates.

bp



On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+
years?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I doubt we will get paid...


https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen




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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Robert]

A local wisp'er just got over it and recovered taste pretty quickly 
after, but he's in his 30's


On 11/26/20 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if 
you’re saying the whole family had it. That’s supposed to be a 
hallmark side effect, and one that lingers.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made 
had no flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high
fructose corn syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that
accusation.  But checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands
(Borden/Eagle and Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.

Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between
evaporated and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing,
but condensed and sweetened for some reason always go together.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're
doing just one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big
29 oz one.

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything
together when mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense
if you beat the eggs (really froth them up) before adding the
sugar and spices. Note also that this uses a lot more cinnamon;
uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and uses sweetened
condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier
kind of pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the
custard constantly over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of
my relatives.

*Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*

  * 1 ½ cups brown sugar
  * 1 tsp. salt
  * 3 tsp. cinnamon
  * 2 tsp. ground ginger
  * 1 tsp. ground cloves
  * 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
  * 4 large eggs
  * 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
  * 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients,
starting with sugar & spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature
to 350° F., and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into
center comes out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of
Libby's pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the
mixture in a pan on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to
keep it from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should
become quite a bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the
mostly-congealed mixture into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie
should be heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp



On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would
share.  At least give us some food porn.

*From:* AF 
 *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on
the back of the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years,
and now all my relatives will only eat the pies I make. We
call it "/Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie/" (TM)

If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies.
This year I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more
as the holidays move along. I had one 15 oz can left over from
last year because we buy a mixture of the 29 oz and 15 oz, and
sometimes I have one or two left over. This year, the store I
went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had a spare.

I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade
or so.

Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the
plant where Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the
midwest (Morton Illinois). Almost every year the 

Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Steve Jones]

I dont know, CVS has drive through testing but they have rules, I'd bet if
you did a contract you'd be looking at 100 to 200 per test. They have the
home tests now, might be worth looking into, talk to your liability
insurer, not your health insurer, they may swing you a deal.
It's a really good question though, especially with the looming vaccines,
there will be litigation soon. Plus one facebook review stating "X ISP
killed grampa" could decimate a company in a small area

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove
> you had exposure?
>
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> 
> They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them
> weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to
> donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies.
> Probably dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has
> a rapid test site
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does
>> anyone have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to
>> what nursing homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Robert]

OMG, he has stiffed the unions and paid dearly for trying to get away 
with that.


On 11/26/20 2:25 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an 
issue with that are questionable


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince > wrote:


He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.


bp


On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I doubt we will get paid...


https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Robert]

He stiffs _anyone_ that he thinks he can get away with doing it to.  
Including calling the INS on _HIS OWN STAFF_ to keep from paying them 
when they make a tiff about getting stiffed..


On 11/26/20 2:00 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.


bp

On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/ 



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I doubt we will get paid...


https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen



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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

[Robert]

just cued it up on bluetooth and got a dance in with my gal...

On 11/26/20 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I never quite understood why TV stations played The Wizard of Oz every 
year on Thanksgiving.  But apparently some people also listen to 
Alice’s Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie, which does at least peripherally 
involve Thanksgiving.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM 






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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Matt Hoppes]

Will the places like Med Express do weekly tests?  Or do you have to prove you 
had exposure?

> On Nov 26, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them 
> weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to 
> donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies. Probably 
> dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has a rapid 
> test site
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone 
>> have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what 
>> nursing homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

[Jaime Solorza]

Home for the Holidays...my go to Thanksgiving movie...
Watching Chicago PD reruns on ION TV...

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I never quite understood why TV stations played The Wizard of Oz every
> year on Thanksgiving.  But apparently some people also listen to Alice’s
> Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie, which does at least peripherally involve
> Thanksgiving.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Steve Jones]

Literally all about what the contract YOU sign says

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:16 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I read a story on Quora from an NYC flooring contractor about this topic.
> As he described it, the Trump organization wants to pay you whatever was
> originally quoted, but the contractor will raise the number if the scope of
> work has changed.  The scope often changes on large projects.  So they bill
> $100,000 and Trump pays $70,000.  One says "he stiffed me", and the other
> says "I paid him everything I owed".
>
> If that's the truth, then I can see how two parties would tell that story
> differently, but one of those parties is incorrect.
>
>
> On 11/26/2020 5:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> If that’s what you want to believe.
>
>
>
> Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m surprised
> he didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the wrong person.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and
> collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2
> years ago
>
>
>
> Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an issue
> with that are questionable
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I doubt we will get paid...
>
>
>
>
> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
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Re: [AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Steve Jones]

They're free all over, just locate one of the testing sites and send them
weekly. They're unreliable, but better than nothing. Can also send them to
donate blood at red cross, they test every donation for antibodies.
Probably dont want to send them all the way to Bloomington, but Joliet has
a rapid test site

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 5:20 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone
> have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Steve Jones]

No, just the filling. I considered that, could be we cant taste the pumpkin
pie spice mix, that would be interesting if it could take independent
flavors out of a mix. I would love if whatever it is in stuffing i cant
stomach to go away,not smells so good, but I'll blow chunks if I swallow
it. Every year I try stuffing hoping taste buds changed.
We have two she froze last year, ill try one of those soon and see if it's
the rona

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if you’re
> saying the whole family had it.  That’s supposed to be a hallmark side
> effect, and one that lingers.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had no
> flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn
> syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But
> checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and
> Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.
>
>
>
> Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between
> evaporated and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but
> condensed and sweetened for some reason always go together.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
> one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one.
>
> The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
> mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
> (really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
> this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
> uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.
>
> There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
> pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
> over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.
>
> *Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*
>
>- 1 ½ cups brown sugar
>- 1 tsp. salt
>- 3 tsp. cinnamon
>- 2 tsp. ground ginger
>- 1 tsp. ground cloves
>- 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
>- 4 large eggs
>- 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
>- 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack
>
> Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
> sugar & spices, and ending with
> pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
> Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
>
> Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
> F., and continue baking for an
> additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
> comes out clean.
> This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's
> pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
> number of years.
>
> An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in
> a pan on the stovetop until it is
> "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it
> from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
> and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
> quite a bit "fluffier" than your
> typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
> mixture into a semi-baked pie
> shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
> heaped high above the shell.
> Use the same done-ness test as above.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At
> least give us some food porn.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of
> the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives
> will only eat the pies I make. We call it "*Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*"
> (TM)
>
> If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year
> I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move
> along. I had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a
> mixture of the 29 oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over.
> This year, the store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had
> a spare.
>
> I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade or so.
>
> Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the plant where
> Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the midwest (Morton Illinois).
> 

[AFMUG] Routine COVID testing for techs

[Matt Hoppes]

Being that techs are in and out of many many houses every week does anyone 
have any resources for getting repeat tests for them, similar to what nursing 
homes are doing where they test the staff every week?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Adam Moffett]

I read a story on Quora from an NYC flooring contractor about this 
topic.  As he described it, the Trump organization wants to pay you 
whatever was originally quoted, but the contractor will raise the number 
if the scope of work has changed.  The scope often changes on large 
projects.  So they bill $100,000 and Trump pays $70,000.  One says "he 
stiffed me", and the other says "I paid him everything I owed".


If that's the truth, then I can see how two parties would tell that 
story differently, but one of those parties is incorrect.



On 11/26/2020 5:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


If that’s what you want to believe.

Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m 
surprised he didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the wrong 
person.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try 
and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a 
rally 2 years ago


Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an 
issue with that are questionable


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince > wrote:


He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.

bp



On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+
years?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/



On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I doubt we will get paid...


https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen




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Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

[Jaime Solorza]

Nice. Happy Thanksgiving...

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:06 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

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>
> Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Steve Jones]

That wasnt a dig at you, I've seen your work, if you're shorting
deliverables and delivering what you do in the pics, I'd hate to see the
work orders

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:46 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Karma is patient
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 3:33 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> If that’s what you want to believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m surprised
>> he didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the wrong person.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and
>> collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2
>> years ago
>>
>>
>>
>> Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an issue
>> with that are questionable
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>> He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>>
>> Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I doubt we will get paid...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Jaime Solorza]

Karma is patient

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 3:33 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If that’s what you want to believe.
>
>
>
> Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m surprised
> he didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the wrong person.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and
> collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2
> years ago
>
>
>
> Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an issue
> with that are questionable
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I doubt we will get paid...
>
>
>
>
> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Ken Hohhof]

Just the pies?  If nothing had any taste, might be the virus, if you’re saying 
the whole family had it.  That’s supposed to be a hallmark side effect, and one 
that lingers.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had no 
flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn syrup 
instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But checking the 
ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and Nestle/Carnation), they 
both say milk and sugar.

 

Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between evaporated and 
condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but condensed and sweetened 
for some reason always go together.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just one 
with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one. 

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when 
mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs 
(really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that this 
uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and uses 
sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of pie. 
It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly over the 
stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.

Enhanced Pumpkin Pie

*   1 ½ cups brown sugar
*   1 tsp. salt
*   3 tsp. cinnamon
*   2 tsp. ground ginger
*   1 tsp. ground cloves
*   1 tsp. pumpkin spice
*   4 large eggs
*   2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
*   29 oz. pure pumpkin pack

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with sugar 
& spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350° F., 
and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center comes 
out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's pumpkin 
pack, but evolved over a
number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in a pan 
on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it from 
sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become quite a 
bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed mixture 
into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be 
heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At least 
give us some food porn.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of the 
Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives will only 
eat the pies I make. We call it "Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie" (TM)

If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year I'm 
making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move along. I 
had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a mixture of the 29 
oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over. This year, the store I 
went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had a spare.

I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade or so.

Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the plant where 
Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the midwest (Morton Illinois). 
Almost every year the elementary classes I was in would do a field trip to the 
Libby's pumpkin plant, and we would all get a big can to take home with us.

The wife & I scored a 7 lb turkey for just the two of us. Put it in brine for 
soaking until tomorrow.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

- Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find Libby’s 
pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)

- Do most people make 2 pies anyway?

- They had store brand 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Ken Hohhof]

If that’s what you want to believe.

 

Actually, with all the mob connections in NYC construction, I’m surprised he 
didn’t go swimming with the fishes for stiffing the wrong person.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect 
$570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

 

Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an issue with 
that are questionable

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.

 

bp


On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?  
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I doubt we will get paid...

 

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US
 

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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Steve Jones]

My poor mom, same recipe shes done for 60 years. Both pies she made had no
flavor at all, just pumpkin. Shes beside her self

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 2:38 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn
> syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But
> checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and
> Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.
>
>
>
> Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between
> evaporated and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but
> condensed and sweetened for some reason always go together.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
> one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one.
>
> The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
> mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
> (really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
> this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
> uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.
>
> There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
> pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
> over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.
>
> *Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*
>
>- 1 ½ cups brown sugar
>- 1 tsp. salt
>- 3 tsp. cinnamon
>- 2 tsp. ground ginger
>- 1 tsp. ground cloves
>- 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
>- 4 large eggs
>- 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
>- 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack
>
> Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
> sugar & spices, and ending with
> pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
> Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
>
> Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
> F., and continue baking for an
> additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
> comes out clean.
> This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's
> pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
> number of years.
>
> An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in
> a pan on the stovetop until it is
> "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it
> from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
> and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
> quite a bit "fluffier" than your
> typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
> mixture into a semi-baked pie
> shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
> heaped high above the shell.
> Use the same done-ness test as above.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At
> least give us some food porn.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of
> the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives
> will only eat the pies I make. We call it "*Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*"
> (TM)
>
> If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year
> I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move
> along. I had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a
> mixture of the 29 oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over.
> This year, the store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had
> a spare.
>
> I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade or so.
>
> Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the plant where
> Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the midwest (Morton Illinois).
> Almost every year the elementary classes I was in would do a field trip to
> the Libby's pumpkin plant, and we would all get a big can to take home with
> us.
>
> The wife & I scored a 7 lb turkey for just the two of us. Put it in brine
> for soaking until tomorrow.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/25/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> - Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find
> Libby’s pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)
>
> - Do most people make 2 pies anyway?
>
> - They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz cans, but who makes the store
> brand pumpkin?  I thought Libby had a lock on it.  Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?
>
> - All the recipes (and pie crusts) call for 9 inch pie pans, why do I have
> one 8.5 inch and two 9.5 inch?
>
> - I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5, was that the right decision?  I
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Steve Jones]

Dont meet deliverables, you dont get paid. Only people who have an issue
with that are questionable

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business associates.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I doubt we will get paid...
>>
>>
>> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
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Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

[Steve Jones]

What'd you rub the cut pieces with?

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 4:23 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I did 2, one oven one smoked.
> Has issues and late start so had to smoke at 275 instead of 225. Thought
> this was gonna be jerky, but nope, tender and juicy.
> That's the good thing about most of the family having the Rona over the
> last month, people limits dont apply
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 3:21 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Very nice.
>>
>> But your claim that the birds are resting reminds me of the Monty Python
>> Dead Parrot Sketch.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka
>> Technologies
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 3:06 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission
>>
>> Usually  don't  have  much  to  post for Food Porn.  But here are my 3
>> turkeys.  They are resting for now, but dinner will be real soon.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
>>
>>
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>>
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>> www.Myakka.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Bill Prince]

  
  
He has a long and storied history of stiffing his business
  associates.


bp

On 11/26/2020 1:54 PM, Colin Stanners
  wrote:


  
  Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off
for 30+ years?  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
  
  
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32
  PM Jaime Solorza 
  wrote:


  
I doubt we will get paid...


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Colin Stanners]

Trump's been ripping large numbers of people off for 30+ years?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I doubt we will get paid...
>
>
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[AFMUG] OT - Thanksgiving traditions

[Ken Hohhof]

I never quite understood why TV stations played The Wizard of Oz every year
on Thanksgiving.  But apparently some people also listen to Alice's
Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie, which does at least peripherally involve
Thanksgiving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM

 

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[AFMUG] OT: Google News - El Paso lawyered up to try and collect $570, 000 owed to the city by the Trump campaign from a rally 2 years ago

[Jaime Solorza]

I doubt we will get paid...

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEP0yvdIMyIW2laWYMAmmCdUqLQgEKiUIACIbd3d3LmJ1c2luZXNzaW5zaWRlci5jb20vc2FpKgQICjAMMJD-CQ?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
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Re: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

[Ken Hohhof]

Very nice.

But your claim that the birds are resting reminds me of the Monty Python
Dead Parrot Sketch.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 3:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Food Porn Thanksgiving Submission

Usually  don't  have  much  to  post for Food Porn.  But here are my 3
turkeys.  They are resting for now, but dinner will be real soon.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone


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Re: [AFMUG] Giving Away an interference Google sheet I spent 1k on for free

[Sean Heskett]

Wow that is quite the offer Tim!
Thank you, I’ll send you a dm with email address.  Can send ya some beer
money too lol  cheers!

-Sean


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:37 AM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I paid an engineer around $1K to make this google sheet we use internally
> that seems to be helping
>
> it's limited to 400 Devices right now due to database limitations
>
> but after you fill in all the data it will tell you what AP's are creating
> self-interference here is a screenshot
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> I decided to give it to any WISP that wants it for FREE
> all I ask is that you send me an email at t...@wispconsult.com
> with your Gmail address you want it shared to
>
> I will Make a Copy and share it with you then you can copy it to your own
> Google Drive
>
> Excited to see how much farther others can take this
>
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Ken Hohhof]

I assumed that sweetened condensed milk would contain high fructose corn
syrup instead of sugar, and many websites make that accusation.  But
checking the ingredients for the 2 major brands (Borden/Eagle and
Nestle/Carnation), they both say milk and sugar.

 

Then there’s the age old question, what’s the difference between evaporated
and condensed.  Apparently they mean the same thing, but condensed and
sweetened for some reason always go together.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one. 

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
(really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.

Enhanced Pumpkin Pie

*   1 ½ cups brown sugar
*   1 tsp. salt
*   3 tsp. cinnamon
*   2 tsp. ground ginger
*   1 tsp. ground cloves
*   1 tsp. pumpkin spice
*   4 large eggs
*   2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
*   29 oz. pure pumpkin pack

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
sugar & spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
F., and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
comes out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's pumpkin
pack, but evolved over a
number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in a
pan on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it from
sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
quite a bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
mixture into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you.  Jaime would share.  At
least give us some food porn.

 

From: AF    On
Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of the
Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives will
only eat the pies I make. We call it "Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie" (TM)

If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year I'm
making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move along.
I had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a mixture of the
29 oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over. This year, the
store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had a spare.

I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade or so.

Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the plant where
Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the midwest (Morton Illinois).
Almost every year the elementary classes I was in would do a field trip to
the Libby's pumpkin plant, and we would all get a big can to take home with
us.

The wife & I scored a 7 lb turkey for just the two of us. Put it in brine
for soaking until tomorrow.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

- Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find
Libby’s pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)

- Do most people make 2 pies anyway?

- They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz cans, but who makes the store brand
pumpkin?  I thought Libby had a lock on it.  Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?

- All the recipes (and pie crusts) call for 9 inch pie pans, why do I have
one 8.5 inch and two 9.5 inch?

- I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5, was that the right decision?  I had
to kind of short-sheet the 9.5.  Sorry, I’m not making pie crust from
scratch.

- How would I make pumpkin pie if they stopped printing the recipe on the
can?  (same with green bean casserole and chocolate chip cookies)

- The pumpkin has a best by date of Nov. 2022, should I be stocking up?  Can
you make anything other than pie 

Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Steve Jones]

With the eggs, if you want lighter you separate the whites and whip them,
then fold the yolks into it.
I dont do a lot of baking, I have too much rage for baking.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 10:57 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I remember my wife would omit the cloves.
>
>
>
> And I thought there were only 2 things to make from sweetened condensed
> milk:  fudge, and dulce de leche.  Peel off the label and put the can in
> boiling water for 2-3 hours.  Voila, dulce de leche.
>
>
>
> I also had a flashback this morning to my mom toasting vast quantities of
> Butternut bread, and tearing it into pieces to make stuffing.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:34 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> I think I would skip the cloves.
>
>
>
> Here is my recipe:
>
> 1/2rd cup cold crisco
>
> Try to cut it into 1 1/3 cups of flower.
>
> Chop crisco until the mix is coarse granular.  Think concrete without
> water.
>
> Best if you have one of those tools made for this specific purpose.
>
> Otherwise you can use a butter knife.
>
> Add two pinches of salt.
>
> Sprinkle just a few tablespoons of cold water over it and mash it down
> with a fork.
>
> Check to see if it can stick together enough to form a ball.
>
> Do not over stir/fork.  Do not over water.
>
>
>
> Roll out, put in pan and fill with yummy stuff.
>
> You can substitute lard for more authentic version but I think crisco
> tastes better.
>
>
>
> I can even do a mean flute on the edges...
>
>
>
> When I was a kid I always got the trimmings.  I would roll them out, add
> ketchup, oregano and cheese.  Pie dough pizza.  Still love it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:53 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
>
>
> Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
> one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one.
>
> The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
> mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
> (really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
> this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
> uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk.
>
> There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
> pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
> over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.
>
> *Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*
>
>- 1 ½ cups brown sugar
>- 1 tsp. salt
>- 3 tsp. cinnamon
>- 2 tsp. ground ginger
>- 1 tsp. ground cloves
>- 1 tsp. pumpkin spice
>- 4 large eggs
>- 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
>- 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack
>
> Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
> sugar & spices, and ending with
> pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
> Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
>
> Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
> F., and continue baking for an
> additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
> comes out clean.
> This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's
> pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
> number of years.
>
> An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in
> a pan on the stovetop until it is
> "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it
> from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
> and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
> quite a bit "fluffier" than your
> typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
> mixture into a semi-baked pie
> shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
> heaped high above the shell.
> Use the same done-ness test as above.
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you. Jaime would share. At
> least give us some food porn.
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
>
> I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of
> the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives
> will only eat the pies I make. We call it "*Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie*"
> (TM)
>
> If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year
> I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move
> along. I had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a
> mixture of the 29 oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over.
> This year, the store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had
> a spare.
>
> I don't think it 

Re: [AFMUG] WISP Acronyms

[Matt Hoppes]

RATNIMH
Radio and tech Network infrastructure monitoring 



> On Nov 26, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Steven Kenney  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lets hear some of your home made, proprietary company only acronyms you guys 
> use.  
> 
> We use GSI for example as a google site inspection where they use google 
> earth to determine LOS (We are in a flat area).   We have a SAK (swiss army 
> knife) server.   There are a few other naughty ones I won't go into that few 
> know about.  One partially clean one I can share is our FAPPR panels.  
> 
> What would you consider to be proprietary to the WISP industry?  
> 
>  
>  
> STEVEN KENNEY 
> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY
> A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
> W: www.wavedirect.net
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[AFMUG] WISP Acronyms

[Steven Kenney]

Lets hear some of your home made, proprietary company only acronyms you guys 
use. 

We use GSI for example as a google site inspection where they use google earth 
to determine LOS (We are in a flat area). We have a SAK (swiss army knife) 
server. There are a few other naughty ones I won't go into that few know about. 
One partially clean one I can share is our FAPPR panels. 

What would you consider to be proprietary to the WISP industry? 

[ https://www.wavedirect.net/ |] 
[ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [ 
https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/ ] [ 
https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/ ] [ 
https://twitter.com/wavedirect1 ] [ https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect ] 
STEVEN KENNEY 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Happy Thanksgiving breakfast

[Lewis Bergman]

I should have taken pictures of my Eggs Benedict. Learned to make them a
couple months back and I have it down now. Super Yummy, especially with a
Bloody Mary.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:01 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 9:59 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Picadillo y huevos con tortilla de harina.
>> Stay safe ...
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[AFMUG] OT: Happy Thanksgiving breakfast

[Jaime Solorza]

Picadillo y huevos con tortilla de harina.
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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Ken Hohhof]

I remember my wife would omit the cloves.

 

And I thought there were only 2 things to make from sweetened condensed
milk:  fudge, and dulce de leche.  Peel off the label and put the can in
boiling water for 2-3 hours.  Voila, dulce de leche.

 

I also had a flashback this morning to my mom toasting vast quantities of
Butternut bread, and tearing it into pieces to make stuffing.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

I think I would skip the cloves.

 

Here is my recipe:

1/2rd cup cold crisco

Try to cut it into 1 1/3 cups of flower.

Chop crisco until the mix is coarse granular.  Think concrete without water.

Best if you have one of those tools made for this specific purpose.  

Otherwise you can use a butter knife.

Add two pinches of salt.

Sprinkle just a few tablespoons of cold water over it and mash it down with
a fork.  

Check to see if it can stick together enough to form a ball.  

Do not over stir/fork.  Do not over water.

 

Roll out, put in pan and fill with yummy stuff.  

You can substitute lard for more authentic version but I think crisco tastes
better.

 

I can even do a mean flute on the edges...

 

When I was a kid I always got the trimmings.  I would roll them out, add
ketchup, oregano and cheese.  Pie dough pizza.  Still love it.  

 

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:53 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just
one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one. 

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when
mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs
(really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that
this uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and
uses sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of
pie. It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly
over the stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.

Enhanced Pumpkin Pie

*   1 ½ cups brown sugar 
*   1 tsp. salt 
*   3 tsp. cinnamon 
*   2 tsp. ground ginger 
*   1 tsp. ground cloves 
*   1 tsp. pumpkin spice 
*   4 large eggs 
*   2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk 
*   29 oz. pure pumpkin pack 

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with
sugar & spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350°
F., and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center
comes out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's pumpkin
pack, but evolved over a
number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in a
pan on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it from
sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become
quite a bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed
mixture into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be
heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp


On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are you. Jaime would share. At least
give us some food porn.

From: AF    On
Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on the back of the
Libby's can. It has evolved over the years, and now all my relatives will
only eat the pies I make. We call it "Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie" (TM)

If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2 pies. This year I'm
making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or 4 more as the holidays move along.
I had one 15 oz can left over from last year because we buy a mixture of the
29 oz and 15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over. This year, the
store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I had a spare.

I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade or so.

Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the plant where
Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the midwest (Morton Illinois).
Almost every year the elementary classes I was in would do a field trip to
the Libby's pumpkin plant, and we would all get a big can to take home with
us.

Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I think I would skip the cloves.

Here is my recipe:
1/2rd cup cold crisco
Try to cut it into 1 1/3 cups of flower.
Chop crisco until the mix is coarse granular.  Think concrete without water.
Best if you have one of those tools made for this specific purpose.  
Otherwise you can use a butter knife.
Add two pinches of salt.
Sprinkle just a few tablespoons of cold water over it and mash it down with a 
fork.  
Check to see if it can stick together enough to form a ball.  
Do not over stir/fork.  Do not over water.

Roll out, put in pan and fill with yummy stuff.  
You can substitute lard for more authentic version but I think crisco tastes 
better.

I can even do a mean flute on the edges...

When I was a kid I always got the trimmings.  I would roll them out, add 
ketchup, oregano and cheese.  Pie dough pizza.  Still love it.  


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:53 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're doing just one 
with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big 29 oz one. 


The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything together when 
mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense if you beat the eggs 
(really froth them up) before adding the sugar and spices. Note also that this 
uses a lot more cinnamon; uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and uses 
sweetened condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 


There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter, fluffier kind of pie. 
It's a bit more work because you have to stir the custard constantly over the 
stove, but it's a big hit with some of my relatives.

Enhanced Pumpkin Pie


  a.. 1 ½ cups brown sugar 
  b.. 1 tsp. salt 
  c.. 3 tsp. cinnamon 
  d.. 2 tsp. ground ginger 
  e.. 1 tsp. ground cloves 
  f.. 1 tsp. pumpkin spice 
  g.. 4 large eggs 
  h.. 2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk 
  i.. 29 oz. pure pumpkin pack 
Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients, starting with sugar 
& spices, and ending with
pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.

Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature to 350° F., 
and continue baking for an
additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into center comes 
out clean.
This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of Libby's pumpkin 
pack, but evolved over a
number of years.


An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the mixture in a pan 
on the stovetop until it is
"almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to keep it from 
sticking to the bottom of the pan,
and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should become quite a 
bit "fluffier" than your
typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the mostly-congealed mixture 
into a semi-baked pie
shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie should be 
heaped high above the shell.
Use the same done-ness test as above.


bp
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Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

[Chuck McCown via AF]

It appears to be modeled off of 2001.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

Saw a short video of someone walking up & around it. The column appears from 
what I saw to be triangular (as opposed to just a rectangular slab)? It was a 
very short video, and I may have been fooled by the angles or something.



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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Ken Hohhof]

Does Costco sell cans of Reddi-Wip the size of fire extinguishers?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

 

When it fills you up too much to have an open faced turkey sandwich...

On 11/26/20 2:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

How can you have too much pumpkin pie?

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 6:18 PM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

Two words...   Too Huge!

On 11/25/20 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

One word:  Costco. 

 

I gave up making pumpkin pies once I found how yummy the costco pies were  
I used to always be the pie maker, don't remember when the last time I made one 
was.

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

- Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find Libby’s 
pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)

- Do most people make 2 pies anyway?

- They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz cans, but who makes the store brand 
pumpkin?  I thought Libby had a lock on it.  Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?

- All the recipes (and pie crusts) call for 9 inch pie pans, why do I have one 
8.5 inch and two 9.5 inch?

- I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5, was that the right decision?  I had to 
kind of short-sheet the 9.5.  Sorry, I’m not making pie crust from scratch.

- How would I make pumpkin pie if they stopped printing the recipe on the can?  
(same with green bean casserole and chocolate chip cookies)

- The pumpkin has a best by date of Nov. 2022, should I be stocking up?  Can 
you make anything other than pie with it?

- I should ignore the expiration dates on the ground ginger and cloves, right?  
The cinnamon I use up, but how much ginger and cloves can you use?

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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Here 'tis Ken. The recipe is for 2 pies; cut in half if you're
  doing just one with 15 oz can of pumpkin pack instead of the big
  29 oz one. 

The recipe on the can has you more-or-less dump everything
  together when mixing. What I found is that it comes out less dense
  if you beat the eggs (really froth them up) before adding the
  sugar and spices. Note also that this uses a lot more cinnamon;
  uses brown sugar instead of white sugar; and uses sweetened
  condensed milk instead of evaporated milk. 

There is also a stovetop variation if you like a lighter,
  fluffier kind of pie. It's a bit more work because you have to
  stir the custard constantly over the stove, but it's a big hit
  with some of my relatives.
Enhanced Pumpkin Pie


  1 ½ cups brown sugar
  1 tsp. salt
  3 tsp. cinnamon
  2 tsp. ground ginger
  1 tsp. ground cloves
  1 tsp. pumpkin spice
  4 large eggs
  2 15 oz. cans sweetened condensed milk
  29 oz. pure pumpkin pack

Beat eggs in a large bowl. Throw in remaining ingredients,
  starting with sugar & spices, and ending with
  pumpkin and milk (mixing as you go).
  Pour mixture into two unbaked pie shells.
Bake in preheated 425° F. oven for 15 minutes. Reduce temperature
  to 350° F., and continue baking for an
  additional 40-50 minutes. Pie is done when a knife inserted into
  center comes out clean.
  This recipe started out as the recipe printed on the back of
  Libby's pumpkin pack, but evolved over a
  number of years.

An interesting and fun variation on this recipe is to cook the
  mixture in a pan on the stovetop until it is
  "almost" completely cooked. This requires a lot of stirring to
  keep it from sticking to the bottom of the pan,
  and to keep it from becoming a total solid in the pan. It should
  become quite a bit "fluffier" than your
  typical pumpkin custard. Once this is done, spoon the
  mostly-congealed mixture into a semi-baked pie
  shell and bake for about 15 minutes at 350° F. The resulting pie
  should be heaped high above the shell.
  Use the same done-ness test as above.

bp

On 11/25/2020 4:41 PM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
You’re not sharing the recipe with us, are
  you.  Jaime would share.  At least give us some food porn.
 

  
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Bill
  Prince
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:36 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions
  

 
I have a special recipe that had its origins from the one on
  the back of the Libby's can. It has evolved over the years,
  and now all my relatives will only eat the pies I make. We
  call it "Bill's Enhanced Pumpkin Pie" (TM)
If we're doing a big do with all the rels, I will make 2
  pies. This year I'm making one for tomorrow. I will make 3 or
  4 more as the holidays move along. I had one 15 oz can left
  over from last year because we buy a mixture of the 29 oz and
  15 oz, and sometimes I have one or two left over. This year,
  the store I went to had zero cans of any size. Good thing I
  had a spare.
I don't think it will ever go bad; at least not for a decade
  or so.
Where I grew up in Illinois was just a couple miles from the
  plant where Libby's packed all the pumpkin. At least for the
  midwest (Morton Illinois). Almost every year the elementary
  classes I was in would do a field trip to the Libby's pumpkin
  plant, and we would all get a big can to take home with us.
The wife & I scored a 7 lb turkey for just the two of us.
  Put it in brine for soaking until tomorrow.
bp


  On 11/25/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  - Why (in the year of smaller
Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find Libby’s pumpkin in
29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)
  - Do most people make 2 pies anyway?
  - They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz
cans, but who makes the store brand pumpkin?  I thought
Libby had a lock on it.  Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?
  - All the recipes (and pie crusts) call
for 9 inch pie pans, why do I have one 8.5 inch and two 9.5
inch?
  - I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5,
was that the right decision?  I had to kind of short-sheet
the 9.5.  Sorry, I’m not making pie crust from scratch.
  - How would I make pumpkin pie if they
stopped printing the recipe on the can?  (same with green
  

Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Saw a short video of someone walking up & around it. The
  column appears from what I saw to be triangular (as opposed to
  just a rectangular slab)? It was a very short video, and I may
  have been fooled by the angles or something.


bp

On 11/25/2020 4:09 PM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Seems
very shiny to be several years old.  Must be alien metal. 
Or perhaps it’s a passive reflector.  Seems kind of small
though.  Those old billboard style things on top of
mountains were huge.  Maybe it’s a millimeter wave passive
reflector.  5G “ultra wideband” must be coming to the Utah
desert.
 

  
From: AF
 On Behalf Of Chuck
McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:40 PM
To: 'Sean Heskett' ;
'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
  

 
It
must have been there for a few years as the google earth
image is a bit old.  
I
am sure the BLM will remove it soon.  They get pissy about
things like that.  Looks to me like they saw cut the
sandstone and embedded it a bit.
I
am hopeful they sunk some rock anchors and grouted them in. 
Hopefully it has a nice steel interior structure that will
make it very difficult to remove.  
 
From:
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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz
 

  oh cool! I regularly fly over that area
when going between CO and San Diego...gonna have to make a
little diversion next time ;-)
  
 
  
  

  

  

  

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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Robert]

When it fills you up too much to have an open faced turkey sandwich...

On 11/26/20 2:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

How can you have too much pumpkin pie?

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 6:18 PM Robert > wrote:


Two words...   Too Huge!

On 11/25/20 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

One word:  Costco.

I gave up making pumpkin pies once I found how yummy the costco
pies were  I used to always be the pie maker, don't remember
when the last time I made one was.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

- Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I
only find Libby’s pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait
until the last minute either)

- Do most people make 2 pies anyway?

- They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz cans, but who makes
the store brand pumpkin?  I thought Libby had a lock on it. 
Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?

- All the recipes (and pie crusts) call for 9 inch pie pans,
why do I have one 8.5 inch and two 9.5 inch?

- I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5, was that the right
decision?  I had to kind of short-sheet the 9.5.  Sorry, I’m
not making pie crust from scratch.

- How would I make pumpkin pie if they stopped printing the
recipe on the can?  (same with green bean casserole and
chocolate chip cookies)

- The pumpkin has a best by date of Nov. 2022, should I be
stocking up?  Can you make anything other than pie with it?

- I should ignore the expiration dates on the ground ginger
and cloves, right?  The cinnamon I use up, but how much
ginger and cloves can you use?

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Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz

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It's just swamp gas. Its an illusion. 

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From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "af"  
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:09:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz 



Seems very shiny to be several years old. Must be alien metal. Or perhaps it’s 
a passive reflector. Seems kind of small though. Those old billboard style 
things on top of mountains were huge. Maybe it’s a millimeter wave passive 
reflector. 5G “ultra wideband” must be coming to the Utah desert. 




From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:40 PM 
To: 'Sean Heskett' ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
 
Cc: Chuck McCown  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Monolith.kmz 




It must have been there for a few years as the google earth image is a bit old. 

I am sure the BLM will remove it soon. They get pissy about things like that. 
Looks to me like they saw cut the sandstone and embedded it a bit. 

I am hopeful they sunk some rock anchors and grouted them in. Hopefully it has 
a nice steel interior structure that will make it very difficult to remove. 



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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:36 PM 
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Cc: Chuck McCown < [ mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com | ch...@go-mtc.com ] > 
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oh cool! I regularly fly over that area when going between CO and San 
Diego...gonna have to make a little diversion next time ;-) 








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[AFMUG] Giving Away an interference Google sheet I spent 1k on for free

[Timothy Steele]

Hello All,

I paid an engineer around $1K to make this google sheet we use internally
that seems to be helping

it's limited to 400 Devices right now due to database limitations

but after you fill in all the data it will tell you what AP's are creating
self-interference here is a screenshot

[image: image.png]


I decided to give it to any WISP that wants it for FREE
all I ask is that you send me an email at t...@wispconsult.com
with your Gmail address you want it shared to

I will Make a Copy and share it with you then you can copy it to your own
Google Drive

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Re: [AFMUG] pumpkin pie questions

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

How can you have too much pumpkin pie?

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 6:18 PM Robert  wrote:

> Two words...   Too Huge!
>
> On 11/25/20 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> One word:  Costco.
>
> I gave up making pumpkin pies once I found how yummy the costco
> pies were  I used to always be the pie maker, don't remember when the
> last time I made one was.
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> - Why (in the year of smaller Thanksgiving gatherings) can I only find
>> Libby’s pumpkin in 29 oz cans?  (I didn’t wait until the last minute either)
>>
>> - Do most people make 2 pies anyway?
>>
>> - They had store brand pumpkin in 15 oz cans, but who makes the store
>> brand pumpkin?  I thought Libby had a lock on it.  Is it Chinese “pumpkin”?
>>
>> - All the recipes (and pie crusts) call for 9 inch pie pans, why do I
>> have one 8.5 inch and two 9.5 inch?
>>
>> - I decided to make one 8.5 and one 9.5, was that the right decision?  I
>> had to kind of short-sheet the 9.5.  Sorry, I’m not making pie crust from
>> scratch.
>>
>> - How would I make pumpkin pie if they stopped printing the recipe on the
>> can?  (same with green bean casserole and chocolate chip cookies)
>>
>> - The pumpkin has a best by date of Nov. 2022, should I be stocking up?
>> Can you make anything other than pie with it?
>>
>> - I should ignore the expiration dates on the ground ginger and cloves,
>> right?  The cinnamon I use up, but how much ginger and cloves can you use?
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