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Re: [AFMUG] OT NEC wire sizes

2021-01-15 Thread Mark Radabaugh

Well, then I suggest using a few 3” sections of 24ga wire somewhere along the 
way in a metal box.   If the smoke comes out and the motor stops you know what 
happened.

Mark

> On Jan 14, 2021, at 10:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
> 
> But I don’t wanna do it right.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>> 
>> Spend $50 and put a motor protector on it:  
>> https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/motor_controls/iec_manual_motor_protectors
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> You will need to mount it in a small box.  Iit will protect the motor from 
>> overheating (or starting a fire).   As a bonus it lets you turn it off and 
>> on.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you buy a lamp or an electric mixer and plug it into a receptacle, the 
>>> receptacle normally will be wired up with 12 or 14 gauge wire with a 15 or 
>>> 20 amp circuit breaker. 
>>>  
>>> Match the wire to the breaker and vise versa. 
>>>  
>>> But the appliance will have a 16 or 18 gauge wire in it.  Think of xmas 
>>> tree lights.  How fine those wires are but still supplied with at least 15 
>>> amps. 
>>>  
>>> I want to connect a blower motor in my shop to an existing circuit.  50 amp 
>>> 3 phase receptacle.  The blower motor only needs 3 amps.  I don’t want to 
>>> change the circuit breaker.  I don’t want to install a motor starter relay. 
>>>  Trying to be cheap, and safe but legal in the event something should 
>>> happen.
>>>  
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[AFMUG] AirMagnet or IBWave for Surveys?

2021-01-15 Thread Chris Herrington

Anyone want to chime in on what is best for large projects?  

 

By large I mean multiple prisons across the country. 

 

AirMagnet or IBWave?

 

Thanks, 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Simple/Cheap ethernet/SNMP 24V battery monitor

2021-01-15 Thread Josh Luthman

Strongly recommend the Packetflux Site Monitor.  It just freaking works.

Mikrotik would be a distant second for this purpose, but in a pinch it
would work.

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> Peter,
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> PacketFlux site monitor
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> On the real cheap Mikrotik Router Board 750gr3 Hex.
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[AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Carl Peterson

We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which has
moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to standardize
on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros and cons of
each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs, errors, etc).


800-GIGE-SS-HV
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/

800-CAT6-SS
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson  wrote:
> 
> 
> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which has 
> moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to standardize on 
> one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros and cons of 
> each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs, errors, etc).  
> 
> 
> 800-GIGE-SS-HV 
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
> 
> 800-CAT6-SS 
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Josh Luthman

Does the LTU stuff use the same old POE as the other stuff in the past, 24v
1 pair?  We've used the GIGE-SS-HV for the older Ubnt stuff comfortably.

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
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> Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> 
> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which
> has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to
> standardize on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros
> and cons of each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs,
> errors, etc).
>
>
> 800-GIGE-SS-HV
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
>
> 800-CAT6-SS
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Carl Peterson

I think the LTU pro is 24V 2 pair but I'd have to double check that.
LTU rocket is 24 or 48V 4 pair but works on 48v two pair just fine as long
as it is really short - We power 4 off a netonix 6 mini on 48V (two pair)
with 10' pre-made AXIS outdoor patch cables. (Have a few hundred from a
camera job we did once).



On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:40 AM Josh Luthman 
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> Does the LTU stuff use the same old POE as the other stuff in the past,
> 24v 1 pair?  We've used the GIGE-SS-HV for the older Ubnt stuff comfortably.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which
>> has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to
>> standardize on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros
>> and cons of each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs,
>> errors, etc).
>>
>>
>> 800-GIGE-SS-HV
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
>>
>> 800-CAT6-SS
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Carl Peterson

Chuck,

What is the 800-GIGE-SS-HV recommended for then?  I thought that was the SS
that specifically worked with Cambium and helped minimize CRC errors.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> 
> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which
> has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to
> standardize on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros
> and cons of each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs,
> errors, etc).
>
>
> 800-GIGE-SS-HV
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
>
> 800-CAT6-SS
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Carl Peterson

Perhaps an update of the chart is warranted?

Tech spec page for the 800-GIGE-SS-HV shows "

   - Ethernet CRC error correction circuit"

But the chart does not show that or perhaps GIGE-SS-HV on the chart isn't
the same as 800-GIGE-SS-HV?
800-CAT6-SS does not seem to be on the chart at all




On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:39 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> What is the 800-GIGE-SS-HV recommended for then?  I thought that was the
> SS that specifically worked with Cambium and helped minimize CRC errors.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which
>> has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to
>> standardize on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros
>> and cons of each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs,
>> errors, etc).
>>
>>
>> 800-GIGE-SS-HV
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
>>
>> 800-CAT6-SS
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
>> --
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Re: [AFMUG] AirMagnet or IBWave for Surveys?

2021-01-15 Thread Jaime Solorza

Both are good...I worked with an Israeli group using AirMagnet ... pretty
cool..
Have seen IBWave demos and it looks solid...


On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 7:25 AM Chris Herrington  wrote:

> Anyone want to chime in on what is best for large projects?
>
>
>
> By large I mean multiple prisons across the country.
>
>
>
> AirMagnet or IBWave?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSP&WD Specialist
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

one uses tvs diodes which is faster response but higher chance of crc
error, other is gas tube which is more stable for ethernet, carries more
current but has a higher clamping latency, I think.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 8:46 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Perhaps an update of the chart is warranted?
>
> Tech spec page for the 800-GIGE-SS-HV shows "
>
>- Ethernet CRC error correction circuit"
>
> But the chart does not show that or perhaps GIGE-SS-HV on the chart isn't
> the same as 800-GIGE-SS-HV?
> 800-CAT6-SS does not seem to be on the chart at all
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:39 AM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> What is the 800-GIGE-SS-HV recommended for then?  I thought that was the
>> SS that specifically worked with Cambium and helped minimize CRC errors.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which
>>> has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to
>>> standardize on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros
>>> and cons of each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs,
>>> errors, etc).
>>>
>>>
>>> 800-GIGE-SS-HV
>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/
>>>
>>> 800-CAT6-SS
>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/
>>> --
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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Everything other than Cambium.  It has faster acting semiconductor surge 
components as well as gas tubes.  The CAT 6 is build specifically for Cambium.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

Chuck,

What is the 800-GIGE-SS-HV recommended for then?  I thought that was the SS 
that specifically worked with Cambium and helped minimize CRC errors.  

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.

  Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson  
wrote:

We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which has 
moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to standardize on 
one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros and cons of each?  
Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs, errors, etc).  

800-GIGE-SS-HV 
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/

800-CAT6-SS 
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/

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Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

That chart is ancient.  And yes, at one time Motorola’s own surge suppressor 
was causing errors.  I worked out what was causing the problem and did the 
GIGE-SS.  It was a full 8 wire surge suppressor where the older 444 had 4 wires 
for POE and 4 wires for data.  It worked better than the Motorola product but 
when Cambium made a design change it still was the source of errors.  So the 
CAT-6 was borne out of that experience.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 800-GIGE-SS-HV vs 800-CAT6-SS for customer installs.

Perhaps an update of the chart is warranted?   

Tech spec page for the 800-GIGE-SS-HV shows "
  a.. Ethernet CRC error correction circuit" 
But the chart does not show that or perhaps GIGE-SS-HV on the chart isn't the 
same as 800-GIGE-SS-HV?  
800-CAT6-SS does not seem to be on the chart at all 

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:39 AM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

  Chuck,

  What is the 800-GIGE-SS-HV recommended for then?  I thought that was the SS 
that specifically worked with Cambium and helped minimize CRC errors.  

  On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Cat 6 is for Cambium.  100% gas tube.

Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Carl Peterson  
wrote:

  We primarily install Cambium 450SMs but now also have one LTU POP which 
has moved from Beta to production - using LTU PRO CPE.  Trying to standardize 
on one surge suppressor for client installs.  What are the pros and cons of 
each?  Primary concern is integrity of the connection (CRCs, errors, etc).  

  800-GIGE-SS-HV 
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-ethernet-surge-protector/

  800-CAT6-SS 
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/outdoor-10-100-1000-mbps-gas-discharge-tube-ethernet-surge-suppressor/

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[AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT gantt chart

2021-01-15 Thread Steve Jones

we are really beginning to dig nifty. The mobile app is functional, most
arent

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

>
> https://help.niftypm.com/en/articles/1382624-how-to-use-milestones-gantt-charts-in-nifty
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:58 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> projectlibre.com perhaps?
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 12:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have any recommendations for free gantt chart software.  I miss
>>> MS project.  Everyone now seems to be cloud based and subscription based.
>>>
>>> I am about to renew my basic smartsheet subscription but I really want
>>> resource management and you have to buy a 3 user license for that.
>>> $75/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

That was that I miss the olden days...

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.  

Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon movie 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Grant Cardone?


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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
That was that I miss the olden days...

From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.

Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon movie 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Yep

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Grant Cardone? 

Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

That was that I miss the olden days...

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.  

Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon movie 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books

10X

From: Chuck McCown 
Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
To: Gino A. Villarini , AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
Yep

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Grant Cardone?

Gino Villarini
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@gvillarini
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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
That was that I miss the olden days...

From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.

Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon movie 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

I wish I liked sales.  I can do it when I have to.  And I tell myself I am good 
at ti.  But I prefer to create.  I am sure I would be better off if I focused 
on sales, but once I get something rolling I move on to the next thing.

I also lose interest in real estate investing.  I have no interest in laying on 
a beach drinking fruity drinks while others make money for me.  

I wonder if I would benefit from his books.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:44 AM
To: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books

 

10X 

 

From: Chuck McCown 
Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
To: Gino A. Villarini , AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Yep

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

 

Grant Cardone? 

 

Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 


 
  
  
  
  
  
  

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

That was that I miss the olden days...

 

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

 

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.  

 

Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon movie 
when you wanted to screw off.  




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[AFMUG] Isolate dc battery

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

I want to add a 'b' a/c power using a inverter with transfer switch, this
inverter will pass utility power unless it fails then it will change to 48v
input.

I want to add a second battery bank to power this inverter but the inverter
does not charge, can I 'charge' the new battery from the existing dc plant
while keeping it isolated? Would a diode or a dcdc converter work best?

Trying to avoid the second bank feeding back because they are different
chemistry and internal resistance.
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Re: [AFMUG] Isolate dc battery

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Yeah, big ass diodes on heat sinks.  My exeltech inverter (one of them) came 
with the diodes built in.  You lose a volt but it is worth it.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Isolate dc battery

I want to add a 'b' a/c power using a inverter with transfer switch, this 
inverter will pass utility power unless it fails then it will change to 48v 
input.  

I want to add a second battery bank to power this inverter but the inverter 
does not charge, can I 'charge' the new battery from the existing dc plant 
while keeping it isolated? Would a diode or a dcdc converter work best?

Trying to avoid the second bank feeding back because they are different 
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[AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread Nate Burke

I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a 
barrel connector.  Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of 
transformer blocks.  Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC 
Distribution for all these devices.  I really don't want a bunch of 
screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.  Does something 
exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.  I'm thinking maybe 
back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a 
bunch of Demo cameras etc.  Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a 
bunch of things lit up?  I'm not sure what to call it to try to search 
for it.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Nate Burke

Undercover Billionaire is actually a show!?  I thought they just made it 
up for the IT Crowd.


On 1/15/2021 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I wish I liked sales.  I can do it when I have to.  And I tell myself 
I am good at ti.  But I prefer to create.  I am sure I would be better 
off if I focused on sales, but once I get something rolling I move on 
to the next thing.
I also lose interest in real estate investing.  I have no interest in 
laying on a beach drinking fruity drinks while others make money for me.

I wonder if I would benefit from his books.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 11:44 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books

10X

*From: *Chuck McCown 
*Date: *Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
*To: *Gino A. Villarini , AnimalFarm Microwave 
Users Group 

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Yep

*From:*Gino A. Villarini

*Sent:*Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Cc:*Chuck McCown

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Grant Cardone?

*GinoVillarini **
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*Date: *Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
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*Cc: *Chuck McCown 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

That was that I miss the olden days...

*From:*Chuck McCown via AF

*Sent:*Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com

*Cc:*Chuck McCown

*Subject:*[AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top. Started 
watching what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  
Never seen it before. So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a 
new town with a vehicle and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  
Just now watching a guy finagle a place to sleep out of an RV dealership.


Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an 
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Re: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

https://www.amazon.com/ARyee-Adapter-Charger-Security-Surveillance/dp/B07CYMXSTW/ref=psdc_10967101_t1_B002WM8ZV0

-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a
barrel connector.  Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of
transformer blocks.  Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC
Distribution for all these devices.  I really don't want a bunch of
screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.  Does something
exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.  I'm thinking maybe
back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a
bunch of Demo cameras etc.  Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a
bunch of things lit up?  I'm not sure what to call it to try to search
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Yeah, and it was not a total waste of time.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:36 PM
To: Chuck McCown via AF 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

Undercover Billionaire is actually a show!?  I thought they just made it up for 
the IT Crowd.  

On 1/15/2021 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  I wish I liked sales.  I can do it when I have to.  And I tell myself I am 
good at ti.  But I prefer to create.  I am sure I would be better off if I 
focused on sales, but once I get something rolling I move on to the next thing.

  I also lose interest in real estate investing.  I have no interest in laying 
on a beach drinking fruity drinks while others make money for me.  

  I wonder if I would benefit from his books.  

  From: Gino A. Villarini 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:44 AM
  To: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

  Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books

  10X 

  From: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com
  Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
  To: Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com, AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

  Yep

  From: Gino A. Villarini 

  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Cc: Chuck McCown 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

  Grant Cardone? 

  Gino Villarini 
  Founder/President
  @gvillarini
  t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 

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  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

  That was that I miss the olden days...

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 

  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM

  To: af@af.afmug.com 

  Cc: Chuck McCown 

  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

  Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started watching 
what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  Never seen it 
before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new town with a vehicle 
and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now watching a guy finagle a 
place to sleep out of an RV dealership.  

  Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon 
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Re: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread Steve Jones

moist



On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

>
> https://www.amazon.com/ARyee-Adapter-Charger-Security-Surveillance/dp/B07CYMXSTW/ref=psdc_10967101_t1_B002WM8ZV0
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nate Burke
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:35 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution
>
> I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a
> barrel connector.  Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of
> transformer blocks.  Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC
> Distribution for all these devices.  I really don't want a bunch of
> screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.  Does something
> exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.  I'm thinking maybe
> back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a
> bunch of Demo cameras etc.  Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a
> bunch of things lit up?  I'm not sure what to call it to try to search
> for it.
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[AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.  
Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.  

Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
DHCP
DNS
What else do I need?
Router based NAT or server based NAT?
Server based router?

Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.  

(All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
asking about any of that).  

A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say “fix 
me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but nobody 
here has much experience with programing edge/core routing irrespective of the 
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Mike Hammett

"Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me." 




Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over. 


/me ducks. 




;-) 




Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "Chuck McCown"  
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] router programming 




It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP. DIA on fiber. 
Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me. 

Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20 
DHCP 
DNS 
What else do I need? 
Router based NAT or server based NAT? 
Server based router? 

Like to keep it simple but fully redundant. 

(All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
asking about any of that). 

A pair of routers for redundancy. I was just going to call Dennis and say “fix 
me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore. Thinking Juniper but nobody 
here has much experience with programing edge/core routing irrespective of the 
brand of router. 

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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

traffic levels?

RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup
redundancy with ~30 sec fail over, (fast/easy to deploy, not 'best' option
tho, that would be ibgp etc) I would avoid CCR hardware currently.

Probably can't be faulted for going Juniper tho..



On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> "Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me."
>
>
> Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.
>
> /me ducks.
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" 
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] router programming
>
> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.
> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
>
> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
> DHCP
> DNS
> What else do I need?
> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
> Server based router?
>
> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
>
> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy,
> not asking about any of that).
>
> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say
> “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but
> nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing
> irrespective of the brand of router.
>
> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

Buy two rb4011 + one 10g switch like crs type

Connect rb4011 #1 to rb4011 #2 via ether8 (example)

load this script
https://github.com/svlsResearch/ha-mikrotik

Configure router 1 with dhcp, nat etc

Router 1 will automagically clone to router2 (config).

When one router can't reach the other it will take over the active role.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:31 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> traffic levels?
>
> RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup
> redundancy with ~30 sec fail over, (fast/easy to deploy, not 'best' option
> tho, that would be ibgp etc) I would avoid CCR hardware currently.
>
> Probably can't be faulted for going Juniper tho..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> "Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me."
>>
>>
>> Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.
>>
>> /me ducks.
>>
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" 
>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.
>> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
>>
>> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
>> DHCP
>> DNS
>> What else do I need?
>> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
>> Server based router?
>>
>> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
>>
>> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy,
>> not asking about any of that).
>>
>> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and
>> say “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper
>> but nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing
>> irrespective of the brand of router.
>>
>> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

I am lazy.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming

"Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me." 

Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.

/me ducks.

;-)

Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Chuck McCown" 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] router programming

It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.  
Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.  

Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
DHCP
DNS
What else do I need?
Router based NAT or server based NAT?
Server based router?

Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.  

(All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
asking about any of that).  

A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say “fix 
me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but nobody 
here has much experience with programing edge/core routing irrespective of the 
brand of router.  

Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?

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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

1-2 Gig to start with.  I am gun shy about MT.  Watch dog timer issues etc 
discussed here make me not want to go that direction.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming

traffic levels? 

RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup redundancy 
with ~30 sec fail over, (fast/easy to deploy, not 'best' option tho, that would 
be ibgp etc) I would avoid CCR hardware currently.

Probably can't be faulted for going Juniper tho..

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  "Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me." 

  Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.

  /me ducks.

  ;-)

  Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.

  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP

--

  From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Cc: "Chuck McCown" 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] router programming

  It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.  
Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.  

  Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
  DHCP
  DNS
  What else do I need?
  Router based NAT or server based NAT?
  Server based router?

  Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.  

  (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
asking about any of that).  

  A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say 
“fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but 
nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing irrespective 
of the brand of router.  

  Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Bill Prince

I thought it was Undercover Boss, or is this something new? I guess I don't
watch enough TV.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:37 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Undercover Billionaire is actually a show!?  I thought they just made it
> up for the IT Crowd.
>
> On 1/15/2021 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> I wish I liked sales.  I can do it when I have to.  And I tell myself I am
> good at ti.  But I prefer to create.  I am sure I would be better off if I
> focused on sales, but once I get something rolling I move on to the next
> thing.
>
> I also lose interest in real estate investing.  I have no interest in
> laying on a beach drinking fruity drinks while others make money for me.
>
> I wonder if I would benefit from his books.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 11:44 AM
> *To:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>
>
> Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books
>
>
>
> 10X
>
>
>
> *From: *Chuck McCown  
> *Date: *Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
> *To: *Gino A. Villarini  ,
> AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>
> Yep
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>
>
>
> Grant Cardone?
>
>
>
> *Gino* *Villarini *
> Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. aeronet-logo] 
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. inc500]
> 
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. fb-logo]
> 
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. insta-logo]
> 
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. in-logo]
> 
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. tw-logo]
> 
>
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. yt-logo]
> 
>
> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>
> *From: *AF   on behalf
> of Chuck McCown via AF  
> *Date: *Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com  
> *Cc: *Chuck McCown  
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>
> That was that I miss the olden days...
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>
>
>
> Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started
> watching what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.
> Never seen it before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new
> town with a vehicle and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now
> watching a guy finagle a place to sleep out of an RV dealership.
>
>
>
> Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon
> movie when you wanted to screw off.
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Re: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread Jaime Solorza

CCTV power distribution enclosures could be used ..each connection is
fused.. different models out there
"Amazon.com : Monoprice 16 Channel CCTV Camera Power Supply - 12VDC -
10Amps : Power Converters : Camera & Photo"
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Channel-Camera-Power-Supply/dp/B0069MB6G0/ref=asc_df_B0069MB6G0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309764501757&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9041998022848157329&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028688&hvtargid=pla-623462778927&psc=1

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 3:36 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a
> barrel connector.  Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of
> transformer blocks.  Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC
> Distribution for all these devices.  I really don't want a bunch of
> screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.  Does something
> exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.  I'm thinking maybe
> back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a
> bunch of Demo cameras etc.  Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a
> bunch of things lit up?  I'm not sure what to call it to try to search
> for it.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Second season.  I didn’t watch the first season.  Yeah, something new.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought it was Undercover Boss, or is this something new? I guess I don't 
> watch enough TV.
> --
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> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:37 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>> Undercover Billionaire is actually a show!?  I thought they just made it up 
>> for the IT Crowd.  
>> 
>> On 1/15/2021 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> I wish I liked sales.  I can do it when I have to.  And I tell myself I am 
>>> good at ti.  But I prefer to create.  I am sure I would be better off if I 
>>> focused on sales, but once I get something rolling I move on to the next 
>>> thing.
>>>  
>>> I also lose interest in real estate investing.  I have no interest in 
>>> laying on a beach drinking fruity drinks while others make money for me. 
>>>  
>>> I wonder if I would benefit from his books. 
>>>  
>>> From: Gino A. Villarini
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:44 AM
>>> To: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>>>  
>>> Self made real estate guy… very sales aggressive! I have some of his books
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 10X
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Chuck McCown 
>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM
>>> To: Gino A. Villarini , AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
>>> Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 11:35 AM
>>> 
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> 
>>> Cc: Chuck McCown
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Grant Cardone?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino Villarini 
>>> Founder/President
>>> @gvillarini
>>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>>> 
>>> From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> 
>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com 
>>> Cc: Chuck McCown 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>>> 
>>> That was that I miss the olden days...
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Chuck McCown via AF
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM
>>> 
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> 
>>> Cc: Chuck McCown
>>> 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Lazy day
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Lazy this morning.  Clicked on my hulu app on my desk top.  Started 
>>> watching what I think is the second season of undercover billionaire.  
>>> Never seen it before.  So far a fun watch.  Drop 3 billionaires in a new 
>>> town with a vehicle and $100.  They have 90 days to make $1M.  Just now 
>>> watching a guy finagle a place to sleep out of an RV dealership. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dang I hate the olden times where you could do go brunch and an afternoon 
>>> movie when you wanted to screw off. 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread Ryan McAfee

For distribution, I like the screw-terminal blue sea systems fuse blocks. I
use the 5025 and 5026 in a LOT of applications.
https://www.bluesea.com/products/5026/ST_Blade_Fuse_Block_-_12_Circuits_with_Negative_Bus_and_Cover

For power supply and distro, Jamie's suggestion may be the best option.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:37 PM  wrote:

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 16:35:19 -0600
> From: Nate Burke 
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a
> barrel connector.? Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of
> transformer blocks.? Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC
> Distribution for all these devices.? I really don't want a bunch of
> screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.? Does something
> exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.? I'm thinking maybe
> back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a
> bunch of Demo cameras etc.? Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a
> bunch of things lit up?? I'm not sure what to call it to try to search
> for it.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

If you have the $ for hardware and consulting go Juniper 100%, otherwise I
think you will find rb4011 or the baltic vengeance to be a good balance
between 'carrier grade' and $$

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 4:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> 1-2 Gig to start with.  I am gun shy about MT.  Watch dog timer issues etc
> discussed here make me not want to go that direction.
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> traffic levels?
>
> RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup
> redundancy with ~30 sec fail over, (fast/easy to deploy, not 'best' option
> tho, that would be ibgp etc) I would avoid CCR hardware currently.
>
> Probably can't be faulted for going Juniper tho..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> "Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me."
>>
>>
>> Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.
>>
>> /me ducks.
>>
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" 
>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.
>> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
>>
>> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
>> DHCP
>> DNS
>> What else do I need?
>> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
>> Server based router?
>>
>> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
>>
>> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy,
>> not asking about any of that).
>>
>> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and
>> say “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper
>> but nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing
>> irrespective of the brand of router.
>>
>> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
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Re: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution

2021-01-15 Thread TJ Trout

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WLD32RP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_14JaGbRAB4PXZ

And this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7N1GOH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_z5JaGb0MDTHVE

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 4:46 PM Ryan McAfee  wrote:

> For distribution, I like the screw-terminal blue sea systems fuse blocks.
> I use the 5025 and 5026 in a LOT of applications.
>
> https://www.bluesea.com/products/5026/ST_Blade_Fuse_Block_-_12_Circuits_with_Negative_Bus_and_Cover
>
> For power supply and distro, Jamie's suggestion may be the best option.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:37 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 16:35:19 -0600
>> From: Nate Burke 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Easy and Cheap DC Distribution
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>> I have a bunch of devices in a rack which all take a 12v 1.5A input on a
>> barrel connector.? Right now I have a mess of power strips with a lot of
>> transformer blocks.? Is there an easy and cheap way to do DC
>> Distribution for all these devices.? I really don't want a bunch of
>> screw terminals and jumper wires that I'd have to build.? Does something
>> exist like a PDU panel but for little connectors.? I'm thinking maybe
>> back in the day they used to have them at Store kiosks where they had a
>> bunch of Demo cameras etc.? Maybe the Xmas villages where you have a
>> bunch of things lit up?? I'm not sure what to call it to try to search
>> for it.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

That is what I am thinking.  Who is gonna program it for me?

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> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:46 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you have the $ for hardware and consulting go Juniper 100%, otherwise I 
> think you will find rb4011 or the baltic vengeance to be a good balance 
> between 'carrier grade' and $$
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 4:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> 1-2 Gig to start with.  I am gun shy about MT.  Watch dog timer issues etc 
>> discussed here make me not want to go that direction. 
>>  
>> From: TJ Trout
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>  
>> traffic levels?
>>  
>> RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup 
>> redundancy with ~30 sec fail over, (fast/easy to deploy, not 'best' option 
>> tho, that would be ibgp etc) I would avoid CCR hardware currently.
>>  
>> Probably can't be faulted for going Juniper tho..
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>> "Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me."
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I took it over.
>>>  
>>> /me ducks.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> ;-)
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Naw, he didn't do BGP, he outsourced his only router to his upstream.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
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>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Cc: "Chuck McCown" 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] router programming
>>> 
>>> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.  
>>> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me. 
>>>  
>>> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
>>> DHCP
>>> DNS
>>> What else do I need?
>>> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
>>> Server based router?
>>>  
>>> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant. 
>>>  
>>> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
>>> asking about any of that). 
>>>  
>>> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say 
>>> “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but 
>>> nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing 
>>> irrespective of the brand of router. 
>>>  
>>> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Lincs Chel (AFMug)


Hi Chuck;

Sure.  I know of someone.  You can reach out to him.  Really good.  
ecbethel at yahoo.com.  He can set you on the right path to a very 
simple, reliable and cost effective solution.  In NC right now.


Lincs


On 15/01/2021 5:51 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on 
fiber.  Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.

Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
DHCP
DNS
What else do I need?
Router based NAT or server based NAT?
Server based router?
Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
(All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is 
easy, not asking about any of that).
A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and 
say “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking 
Juniper but nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core 
routing irrespective of the brand of router.

Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?

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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Jaime Solorza

El Paso Water Utilities is migrating from Crisco Oil routers to
Juniper...you will fine

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 3:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.
> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
>
> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
> DHCP
> DNS
> What else do I need?
> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
> Server based router?
>
> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
>
> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy,
> not asking about any of that).
>
> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say
> “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but
> nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing
> irrespective of the brand of router.
>
> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT gantt chart

2021-01-15 Thread Lincs Chel (AFMug)


Hi Chuck;

Take a look at IMSI's TurboProject.  It's not free, but very 
inexpensive, perpetual license and is really good.  Microsoft Visio can 
also do some types of GANTT chart using the wizards. What about 
Lucidchart.  There is a free version.


Lincs_Chel

On 24/12/2020 2:02 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Anyone have any recommendations for free gantt chart software.  I miss 
MS project.  Everyone now seems to be cloud based and subscription based.
I am about to renew my basic smartsheet subscription but I really want 
resource management and you have to buy a 3 user license for that.  
$75/month.


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Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

2021-01-15 Thread Lincs Chel (AF Mug)


Hi;

Confused at your initial request and now these comments / observations 
as to what you want and/or will miss.  Proxmox is a very cable solution 
for what you may want to use it for.  However, it may not be that 
forgiving if you have not planned your virtualization farm properly in 
the beginning.


A critical thing to consider if you're looking to do live migrations and 
the like is the storage options available.  Each has its advantages and 
can do a wealth of stuff.  However, the more you wish to do live 
migrations and stuff like that, the more you're going to need to use 
either one of the OpenSource storage clustering types e.g. the GlusterFS 
and Ceph storage types.  Or, use the ZFS file system.  In other words, 
you will need to pick a storage type that supports the shared attribute 
which will then give you the flexibility and capability of doing live 
migrations.


If you are going to do a cluster farm for their PVE (Proxmox Virtual 
Environment), then you will need to think about quorums (odd amount of 
servers in the farm) and have a separate network. And if you have the 
storage cluster, then it's recommended that this too also have their own 
network.  A caveat is that you can't (or rather you should not) start to 
build your PVE cluster with already provisioned PVE servers.  Hence have 
a plan before diving in.


For backups, you can now use their Proxmox Backup server.  It's a 
separate Proxmox server that is tightly integrated into the PVE. Or, you 
can use a commercial product such StorWare VProtect.  They give you a 10 
server user license for free. Bacula can also work. But the licensing 
cost is expensive.  BareOS may offer a better pricing (if you need 
support etc.)


Proper planning will lead to great results for which Proxmox can most 
likely deliver the alternative you are seeking.


If you're going beyond 32 physical host servers (or PVE servers) and 
wish to manage all using a single pane of glass concept, then this may 
be an issue and/or limitation.



Lincs_Chel

On 08/01/2021 10:44 PM, Steven Kenney wrote:
When was it added?  From what I've been told its buggy and not as 
fluid and painless as vmware.  I can migrate both hosts and datastores 
at the same time LIVE while a machine is running.  Does Proxmox have DRS?


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*From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
*To: *"af" 
*Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 4:52:02 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

Proxmox has both of these featues.   Plus with a ceph backend storage 
migration should become less of an issue as you effectively mirror 
drives across cluster nodes.




On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 2:33 PM Steven Kenney > wrote:


HA only.. no live migrations.  No live storage migrations.  Last I
checked it didn't support it.

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*Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2021 12:40:45 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

Like?



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

TOC

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Lincs Chel (AFMug)  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck;
> 
> Sure.  I know of someone.  You can reach out to him.  Really good.  ecbethel 
> at yahoo.com.  He can set you on the right path to a very simple, reliable 
> and cost effective solution.  In NC right now.
> 
> Lincs
> 
> 
> 
> On 15/01/2021 5:51 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP.  DIA on fiber.  
>> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me. 
>>  
>> Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
>> DHCP
>> DNS
>> What else do I need?
>> Router based NAT or server based NAT?
>> Server based router?
>>  
>> Like to keep it simple but fully redundant. 
>>  
>> (All the infrastructure, DC, building, Generator, hvac etc etc is easy, not 
>> asking about any of that). 
>>  
>> A pair of routers for redundancy.  I was just going to call Dennis and say 
>> “fix me up” but I am a bit gun shy about MT anymore.  Thinking Juniper but 
>> nobody here has much experience with programing edge/core routing 
>> irrespective of the brand of router. 
>>  
>> Anyone want to consult on this and do our router setup?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Tnx. Phone translated that to TOC.  What is TOC?

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> On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-15 Thread Steve Jones

If i had it to do over again with my incompetence and lack of motivation, i
probably would have learned something more robust than mt. I learned what
little i know around mt because i was too lazy to do the legwork in talking
the boss into dropping coin and mt was too user friendly with "everything
routing". Now my brain is less keen on soaking up new knowledge and we are
nearing a point that the random oddities of mt are getting to be too
problematic to let slide. Not to mention a product change this far into the
game is going to hurt the bosses wallet.
One of the biggest issues ive come across in mikrotik is its versatility.
When seeking out a consultant, everybody has a different idea on how best
to use their gear, beyond differences in topologies and standards. They
have like 25 ways to skin every cat and you can use any breed of cat you
want. Getting older i understand why old men want the kids off their lawn.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 11:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Tnx. Phone translated that to TOC.  What is TOC?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
> >
>
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