Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
The Rolling Stones knew back in 1969 that you can't always get
  what you want.


bp

On 5/6/2022 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman
  wrote:


  
  I would want everything to be -48v.  (Or all
positive but that seems unlikely).  If it's not, then I agree to
throwing in a converter.
  
  
On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:53 PM
  
  wrote:


  

  I’d still use a separate
converter….then I can drop in a different Mikrotik
without worrying about whether they’ve changed something
on that model.  Just an opinion.
   
   
  
From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 1:36 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
  
   
  
Sounds about right.  48vdc in and
  12vdc out. https://www.neobits.com/mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_48v_p14295922.html?atc=gbp=CjwKCAjwjtOTBhAvEiwASG4bCB7-TL9POhUsFqrkbqxp1lzWNT_Qq55X4Zocqa-NVFpQDBCYu2C0dBoCgCwQAvD_BwE
  
   
  

  On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:32 PM TJ
Trout 
wrote:


  
basically the drop in dc power
  supplies are just dc-dc isolated converters *i
  think*
  
   
  

  On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:29
AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:


  
The DC PSU in the CCR is
  floating from my testing as well.
  
   
  

  On Fri, May 6, 2022 at
12:56 PM TJ Trout 
wrote:


  
if you feed a tik
  direct via poe or barrel jack I think it
  may need to be isolated, if it's a extra
  dc psu you bought, I suspect those are
  isolated (from my testing)
  
   
  

  On Fri, May 6, 2022
at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler 
wrote:


  We opted for 24v out
as well and went with Meanwell
RSD-200C-24. Input voltage range is
33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well,
and has reverse polarity protection. So
if the wires are backward it just
doesn't output anything instead of
letting out the magic smoke, which is
nice. I think we paid about $117/ea for
them.

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> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
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> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I would want everything to be -48v.  (Or all positive but that seems
unlikely).  If it's not, then I agree to throwing in a converter.

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:53 PM  wrote:

> I’d still use a separate converter….then I can drop in a different
> Mikrotik without worrying about whether they’ve changed something on that
> model.  Just an opinion.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2022 1:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
>
>
>
> Sounds about right.  48vdc in and 12vdc out.
> https://www.neobits.com/mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_48v_p14295922.html?atc=gbp=CjwKCAjwjtOTBhAvEiwASG4bCB7-TL9POhUsFqrkbqxp1lzWNT_Qq55X4Zocqa-NVFpQDBCYu2C0dBoCgCwQAvD_BwE
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:32 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> basically the drop in dc power supplies are just dc-dc isolated converters
> *i think*
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:29 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> The DC PSU in the CCR is floating from my testing as well.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to be
> isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are isolated
> (from my testing)
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler 
> wrote:
>
> We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input
> voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse
> polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output
> anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we
> paid about $117/ea for them.
>
> --
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> Senior Network Engineer
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>
> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
> Nixa, MO 65714
> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
> www.totalhighspeed.com
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> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer.
> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de
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>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Trey Scarborough" 
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
>
> > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
> > accept 24v than anything else.
> >
> > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
> >
> > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
> >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
> >> converters just to be on the safe side.
> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread dmmoffett
I’d still use a separate converter….then I can drop in a different Mikrotik 
without worrying about whether they’ve changed something on that model.  Just 
an opinion.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 1:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

 

Sounds about right.  48vdc in and 12vdc out. 
https://www.neobits.com/mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_48v_p14295922.html?atc=gbp
 

 
=CjwKCAjwjtOTBhAvEiwASG4bCB7-TL9POhUsFqrkbqxp1lzWNT_Qq55X4Zocqa-NVFpQDBCYu2C0dBoCgCwQAvD_BwE

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:32 PM TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

basically the drop in dc power supplies are just dc-dc isolated converters *i 
think*

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:29 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

The DC PSU in the CCR is floating from my testing as well.

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to be 
isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are isolated (from 
my testing)

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net> > wrote:

We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input voltage 
range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse polarity 
protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output anything 
instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we paid about 
$117/ea for them.

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www.totalhighspeed.com  

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> From: "Trey Scarborough" mailto:t...@3dsc.co> >
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"   >
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

> I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
> accept 24v than anything else.
> 
> Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
> 
> On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
>> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
>> converters just to be on the safe side.
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds about right.  48vdc in and 12vdc out.
https://www.neobits.com/mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_mikrotik_pw48v_12v85w_48v_p14295922.html?atc=gbp=CjwKCAjwjtOTBhAvEiwASG4bCB7-TL9POhUsFqrkbqxp1lzWNT_Qq55X4Zocqa-NVFpQDBCYu2C0dBoCgCwQAvD_BwE

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:32 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> basically the drop in dc power supplies are just dc-dc isolated converters
> *i think*
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:29 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> The DC PSU in the CCR is floating from my testing as well.
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>>> if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to
>>> be isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are
>>> isolated (from my testing)
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler <
>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>
 We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input
 voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse
 polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output
 anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we
 paid about $117/ea for them.

 --
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 Senior Network Engineer
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 www.totalhighspeed.com

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 - Original Message -
 > From: "Trey Scarborough" 
 > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
 > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
 > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

 > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
 > accept 24v than anything else.
 >
 > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount
 tiks.
 >
 > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
 >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell
 DC-DC
 >> converters just to be on the safe side.
 >>
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread TJ Trout
basically the drop in dc power supplies are just dc-dc isolated converters
*i think*

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:29 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> The DC PSU in the CCR is floating from my testing as well.
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to be
>> isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are isolated
>> (from my testing)
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler <
>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input
>>> voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse
>>> polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output
>>> anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we
>>> paid about $117/ea for them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> Senior Network Engineer
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>>> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
>>> Nixa, MO 65714
>>> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
>>> www.totalhighspeed.com
>>>
>>> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer.
>>> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de
>>> oportunidades.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Trey Scarborough" 
>>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
>>>
>>> > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
>>> > accept 24v than anything else.
>>> >
>>> > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
>>> >
>>> > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
>>> >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
>>> >> converters just to be on the safe side.
>>> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
The DC PSU in the CCR is floating from my testing as well.

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to be
> isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are isolated
> (from my testing)
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler 
> wrote:
>
>> We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input
>> voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse
>> polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output
>> anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we
>> paid about $117/ea for them.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>
>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
>> Nixa, MO 65714
>> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
>> www.totalhighspeed.com
>>
>> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer.
>> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de
>> oportunidades.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Trey Scarborough" 
>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
>>
>> > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
>> > accept 24v than anything else.
>> >
>> > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
>> >
>> > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
>> >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
>> >> converters just to be on the safe side.
>> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread TJ Trout
if you feed a tik direct via poe or barrel jack I think it may need to be
isolated, if it's a extra dc psu you bought, I suspect those are isolated
(from my testing)

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Christopher Tyler 
wrote:

> We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input
> voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse
> polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output
> anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we
> paid about $117/ea for them.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> Senior Network Engineer
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>
> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
> 1091 W. Kathryn Street
> Nixa, MO 65714
> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002
> www.totalhighspeed.com
>
> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer.
> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de
> oportunidades.
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Trey Scarborough" 
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
>
> > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
> > accept 24v than anything else.
> >
> > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
> >
> > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
> >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
> >> converters just to be on the safe side.
> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Christopher Tyler
We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input voltage 
range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse polarity 
protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output anything 
instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we paid about 
$117/ea for them.

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Nixa, MO 65714
(417) 851-1107 x. 9002
www.totalhighspeed.com

This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer.
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- Original Message -
> From: "Trey Scarborough" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

> I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks
> accept 24v than anything else.
> 
> Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.
> 
> On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
>> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC
>> converters just to be on the safe side.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] UniFi migrate to cloud key

2022-05-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
99% I bet it something stupidly simple and you have been looking at it so long, 
you can’t see it.  Happens all of the time even with experienced engineers! 


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From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 10:00 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] UniFi migrate to cloud key

If a unifi network is already managed in a unifi server and then someone comes 
along and plugs in a cloud key on the LAN, can you then just adopt all the 
stuff into the cloud key?  Or do you have to “forget” them on the server first?

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Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site

2022-05-06 Thread Trey Scarborough
I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks 
accept 24v than anything else.


Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks.

On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:

Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC 
converters just to be on the safe side.



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