Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

You sneak leftist!
-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:01 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners 


Crappola. Wrong link. No idea how that got in there.

https://electrek.co/2023/08/04/robot-cleans-solar-panels-without-water/

bp


On 8/7/2023 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Que?

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 12:33 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

These are designed for dust, but maybe they might work for light snow 
too?


https://electrek.co/2023/08/04/robot-cleans-solar-panels-without-water/



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Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-07 Thread Bill Prince

Crappola. Wrong link. No idea how that got in there.

https://electrek.co/2023/08/04/robot-cleans-solar-panels-without-water/

bp


On 8/7/2023 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Que?

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 12:33 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

These are designed for dust, but maybe they might work for light snow 
too?


https://electrek.co/2023/08/04/robot-cleans-solar-panels-without-water/



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Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-07 Thread Steve Jones
I don't think we are allowed to do that any more.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 2:12 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> These are designed for dust, but maybe they might work for light snow too?
>
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/clarence-thomas-bought-267-000-180329496.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Que?

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 12:33 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

These are designed for dust, but maybe they might work for light snow too?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/clarence-thomas-bought-267-000-180329496.html

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Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

2023-08-07 Thread Carl Peterson
We use Plume and Calix.  Homepass has an open offramp if you want to roll
your own at some point.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 11:15 AM Dennis Burgess 
wrote:

> Here is the comparison.
>
>
>
> https://www.linktechs.net/index.html#cloud
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2023 7:34 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers
>
>
>
> Ya, I don’t think I typed that, but
>
>
>
> http://rwb.linktechs.net is what most of our customers use, or
> https://cloud.linktechs.net.   RWB is scalable, i.e. you pay as you use
> the service, more routers you add etc.  The other is a pay by package, i.e.
> 50 routers, 100 routers etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, August 4, 2023 4:41 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers
>
>
>
> I know you fat fingered that one, Bill :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:45 AM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Think you fat-fingered that URL
>
> http://dwb.linktechs.com/
> 
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 8/4/2023 6:22 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>
> We have a number of customers using hAP AC2 or AX2 units with
> http://rwb.linktechs.net, this allows them to share access to manage
> their own wifi etc..  Works out quite well, and it’s a pay as you go
> thing.  
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2023 5:48 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers
>
>
>
> What are you guys using for customer routers? The best option I've found
> overall is TP Link, but their system only manages their mesh routers at the
> moment. The best hardware I've found is Calix, but their management is
> considerably over priced. Any other suggestions?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

2023-08-07 Thread dmmoffett
They show an operating temp up to 50C.

It’s hard to tell with the Engrish translation, but since that sentence is
in the context of the temperature compensation chart down below, maybe they
just don’t want us to go any lower than 53V.



In other words, I was reading it this morning as “disable temperature
compensation”, but maybe they just mean “this is the lowest your charger
voltage should go”.



As another tidbit: They also later in the manual say that high operating
temperature cuts battery life span in half for every 10 degrees above 25C.
If anyone needed to make a case to their finance people for air conditioning
a comparison to changing batteries twice as often might do the trick.





















From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2023 12:42 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps



Below 5C happens here all the time.

Perhaps above 40C the run away problem levels out.  Or maybe that is outside
the maximum operational temp of the battery?



Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com 
www.microtrench.pro 
www.terabitnetworks.com 



From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:26 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Subject: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps



>From a VRLA battery’s operation manual:



"If ambient temperature below 5℃ or above 40℃, temperature compensate is
no
longer go on."



Hopefully we never get that room up to 40C/105F, but why would we turn
temperature compensation off at that temperature?

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[AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-07 Thread Bill Prince

These are designed for dust, but maybe they might work for light snow too?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/clarence-thomas-bought-267-000-180329496.html

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Re: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

2023-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Below 5C happens here all the time.  
Perhaps above 40C the run away problem levels out.  Or maybe that is outside 
the maximum operational temp of the battery?

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:26 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

>From a VRLA battery’s operation manual:

 

"If ambient temperature below 5℃ or above 40℃, temperature compensate is no
longer go on."

 

Hopefully we never get that room up to 40C/105F, but why would we turn 
temperature compensation off at that temperature? 




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[AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

2023-08-07 Thread dmmoffett
>From a VRLA battery’s operation manual:



"If ambient temperature below 5℃ or above 40℃, temperature compensate is
no
longer go on."



Hopefully we never get that room up to 40C/105F, but why would we turn
temperature compensation off at that temperature?

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Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

2023-08-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
Here is the comparison.

https://www.linktechs.net/index.html#cloud



[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: Dennis Burgess
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:34 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

Ya, I don’t think I typed that, but

http://rwb.linktechs.net is what most of our customers use, or 
https://cloud.linktechs.net.   RWB is scalable, i.e. you pay as you use the 
service, more routers you add etc.  The other is a pay by package, i.e. 50 
routers, 100 routers etc.


[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 4:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

I know you fat fingered that one, Bill :)

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:45 AM Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Think you fat-fingered that URL

https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fdwb.linktechs.com=7506EABD-0253-BE06-87E1-0F28EC680C92=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-7032e498efef6056c242bef284faaa13af166a7a

bp


On 8/4/2023 6:22 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
We have a number of customers using hAP AC2 or AX2 units with 
http://rwb.linktechs.net, this allows them to share access to manage their own 
wifi etc..  Works out quite well, and it’s a pay as you go thing.  


[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with 
www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 5:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

What are you guys using for customer routers? The best option I've found 
overall is TP Link, but their system only manages their mesh routers at the 
moment. The best hardware I've found is Calix, but their management is 
considerably over priced. Any other suggestions?

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Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

2023-08-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
Ya, I don’t think I typed that, but

http://rwb.linktechs.net is what most of our customers use, or 
https://cloud.linktechs.net.   RWB is scalable, i.e. you pay as you use the 
service, more routers you add etc.  The other is a pay by package, i.e. 50 
routers, 100 routers etc.


[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 4:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

I know you fat fingered that one, Bill :)

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:45 AM Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Think you fat-fingered that URL

https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fdwb.linktechs.com=B3CD5897-0253-A006-87E1-7F6552E0F801=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-8d4d4f31536760d94f841ab18cd38ce6b2a310c1

bp


On 8/4/2023 6:22 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
We have a number of customers using hAP AC2 or AX2 units with 
http://rwb.linktechs.net, this allows them to share access to manage their own 
wifi etc..  Works out quite well, and it’s a pay as you go thing.  


[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with 
www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 5:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed Subscriber Routers

What are you guys using for customer routers? The best option I've found 
overall is TP Link, but their system only manages their mesh routers at the 
moment. The best hardware I've found is Calix, but their management is 
considerably over priced. Any other suggestions?

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