Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Chuck McCown via AF]

For a while, I tried to modify my behavior to not trample the feelings of 
(several of) my kids that are a bit thin skinned.  But this summer, having 
almost lost my wife while on vacation in Barcelona, I just said screw it.  If 
they want the privilege of being around me, they will just have to put up with 
me.  They speak of boundaries, so I decided I have boundaries too.  Deal with 
it or leave.  You might miss me once I am gone.



From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:56 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Excuse me while I yell at a cloud.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Oh sorry, I didn’t mean to say that you were a hater.  I’m getting older, so to 
act my age I have to do some general purpose grouching.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I didn’t mean to come across as a hater.  The 450 features they have given us 
are impressive, in my case a bit overwhelming.  I feel like I just sat down in 
the cockpit of a big commercial airplane.

 

Everything you say is true, I just need some quiet time and some brain enhancer 
pills to wrap my head around all the options.

 

I hope the money guys aren’t leaning too heavily into “FWA is dead, gotta pivot 
quick to fiber”.  Yes, do new things if you have some advantages that will 
allow you to be successful, but you also have to be able to walk and chew gum.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described what 
they meant and what the knobs are for.  I also always felt that Cambium was 
listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and wanted.  

If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in the few cases 
I did need support it was available and I didn’t have to pay for it.  They also 
never BS’d me about what the product could do, and they never failed to support 
a product for a reasonable amount of time….even the 320 which was kind of a dog.

 

Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change an 
integer value and not ever tell you what it does.  We also paid real money for 
support who couldn’t help us, and certain people there made absurd claims about 
capabilities.

 

Ubiquiti gives you what they give you and doesn’t help you at all.  You can try 
to get answers on the forum, but the signal to noise ratio on a support forum 
can be terrible.  Alvarion VL was a decent product for it’s time, but all their 
Wimax stuff was garbage.  I’d actually take PMP320 with all of its 
idiosyncrasies over any Alvarion BreezeMax or whatever else.  And the list of 
terrible PMP products is too long to get into.  There must have been three 
dozen stupid WiFi things packaged up like they were something more awesome than 
just a stupid WiFi thing.  

 

I don’t know what’s up with Cambium haters.  Did they actually use it and 
objectively compare it to the competition, or are they blinded by the desire to 
save a few dollars?

 

Anyway…..the short version of all that is that all I had to do to appreciate 
Cambium PMP was try someone else’s crap for awhile.  If the worst thing we have 
to complain about is that a feature shipped before a license key was on the 
market then that’s not a bad product.  

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze it 
seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you optimize 
the settings.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/13/2024 9:23:06 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.  

 

 

  Tyson Burris 
  President & CEO 
  
 
  Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

  739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

   

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  317-738-0320 (office)
t...@franklinisp.net 
  ??www.surfici.net 

   


 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Ken Hohhof]

Excuse me while I yell at a cloud.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to say that you were a hater.  I'm getting older, so
to act my age I have to do some general purpose grouching.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I didn't mean to come across as a hater.  The 450 features they have given
us are impressive, in my case a bit overwhelming.  I feel like I just sat
down in the cockpit of a big commercial airplane.

 

Everything you say is true, I just need some quiet time and some brain
enhancer pills to wrap my head around all the options.

 

I hope the money guys aren't leaning too heavily into "FWA is dead, gotta
pivot quick to fiber".  Yes, do new things if you have some advantages that
will allow you to be successful, but you also have to be able to walk and
chew gum.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described
what they meant and what the knobs are for.  I also always felt that Cambium
was listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and
wanted.  

If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in the few
cases I did need support it was available and I didn't have to pay for it.
They also never BS'd me about what the product could do, and they never
failed to support a product for a reasonable amount of time..even the 320
which was kind of a dog.

 

Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change
an integer value and not ever tell you what it does.  We also paid real
money for support who couldn't help us, and certain people there made absurd
claims about capabilities.

 

Ubiquiti gives you what they give you and doesn't help you at all.  You can
try to get answers on the forum, but the signal to noise ratio on a support
forum can be terrible.  Alvarion VL was a decent product for it's time, but
all their Wimax stuff was garbage.  I'd actually take PMP320 with all of its
idiosyncrasies over any Alvarion BreezeMax or whatever else.  And the list
of terrible PMP products is too long to get into.  There must have been
three dozen stupid WiFi things packaged up like they were something more
awesome than just a stupid WiFi thing.  

 

I don't know what's up with Cambium haters.  Did they actually use it and
objectively compare it to the competition, or are they blinded by the desire
to save a few dollars?

 

Anyway...the short version of all that is that all I had to do to appreciate
Cambium PMP was try someone else's crap for awhile.  If the worst thing we
have to complain about is that a feature shipped before a license key was on
the market then that's not a bad product.  

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze
it seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you
optimize the settings.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/13/2024 9:23:06 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this
point.  

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
??www.surfici.net 

 



 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[dmmoffett]

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to say that you were a hater.  I'm getting older, so
to act my age I have to do some general purpose grouching.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I didn't mean to come across as a hater.  The 450 features they have given
us are impressive, in my case a bit overwhelming.  I feel like I just sat
down in the cockpit of a big commercial airplane.

 

Everything you say is true, I just need some quiet time and some brain
enhancer pills to wrap my head around all the options.

 

I hope the money guys aren't leaning too heavily into "FWA is dead, gotta
pivot quick to fiber".  Yes, do new things if you have some advantages that
will allow you to be successful, but you also have to be able to walk and
chew gum.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described
what they meant and what the knobs are for.  I also always felt that Cambium
was listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and
wanted.  

If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in the few
cases I did need support it was available and I didn't have to pay for it.
They also never BS'd me about what the product could do, and they never
failed to support a product for a reasonable amount of time..even the 320
which was kind of a dog.

 

Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change
an integer value and not ever tell you what it does.  We also paid real
money for support who couldn't help us, and certain people there made absurd
claims about capabilities.

 

Ubiquiti gives you what they give you and doesn't help you at all.  You can
try to get answers on the forum, but the signal to noise ratio on a support
forum can be terrible.  Alvarion VL was a decent product for it's time, but
all their Wimax stuff was garbage.  I'd actually take PMP320 with all of its
idiosyncrasies over any Alvarion BreezeMax or whatever else.  And the list
of terrible PMP products is too long to get into.  There must have been
three dozen stupid WiFi things packaged up like they were something more
awesome than just a stupid WiFi thing.  

 

I don't know what's up with Cambium haters.  Did they actually use it and
objectively compare it to the competition, or are they blinded by the desire
to save a few dollars?

 

Anyway...the short version of all that is that all I had to do to appreciate
Cambium PMP was try someone else's crap for awhile.  If the worst thing we
have to complain about is that a feature shipped before a license key was on
the market then that's not a bad product.  

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze
it seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you
optimize the settings.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/13/2024 9:23:06 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this
point.  

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
??www.surfici.net 

 



 

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Cameras - Fiber - MDUs  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Ken Hohhof]

I didn't mean to come across as a hater.  The 450 features they have given
us are impressive, in my case a bit overwhelming.  I feel like I just sat
down in the cockpit of a big commercial airplane.

 

Everything you say is true, I just need some quiet time and some brain
enhancer pills to wrap my head around all the options.

 

I hope the money guys aren't leaning too heavily into "FWA is dead, gotta
pivot quick to fiber".  Yes, do new things if you have some advantages that
will allow you to be successful, but you also have to be able to walk and
chew gum.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:38 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described
what they meant and what the knobs are for.  I also always felt that Cambium
was listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and
wanted.  

If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in the few
cases I did need support it was available and I didn't have to pay for it.
They also never BS'd me about what the product could do, and they never
failed to support a product for a reasonable amount of time..even the 320
which was kind of a dog.

 

Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change
an integer value and not ever tell you what it does.  We also paid real
money for support who couldn't help us, and certain people there made absurd
claims about capabilities.

 

Ubiquiti gives you what they give you and doesn't help you at all.  You can
try to get answers on the forum, but the signal to noise ratio on a support
forum can be terrible.  Alvarion VL was a decent product for it's time, but
all their Wimax stuff was garbage.  I'd actually take PMP320 with all of its
idiosyncrasies over any Alvarion BreezeMax or whatever else.  And the list
of terrible PMP products is too long to get into.  There must have been
three dozen stupid WiFi things packaged up like they were something more
awesome than just a stupid WiFi thing.  

 

I don't know what's up with Cambium haters.  Did they actually use it and
objectively compare it to the competition, or are they blinded by the desire
to save a few dollars?

 

Anyway...the short version of all that is that all I had to do to appreciate
Cambium PMP was try someone else's crap for awhile.  If the worst thing we
have to complain about is that a feature shipped before a license key was on
the market then that's not a bad product.  

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze
it seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you
optimize the settings.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/13/2024 9:23:06 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this
point.  

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
??www.surfici.net 

 



 

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Cameras - Fiber - MDUs  

 

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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[dmmoffett]

Your outcomes with that feature sounded marginal.  Maybe it’s not ready and 
they don’t want to charge money for it until it’s more fully baked.  Just a WAG.

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:12 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

They do seem to have some headwinds.

 

But shareholder micromanagement is probably worse than stodgy product managers 
having the reins.

 

Developing and releasing a feature and failing to charge for it seems counter 
to a mad scramble to make money.  Unless they are finding that almost nobody 
wants it, which might be the case.  Even if license keys seem like 100% profit, 
there has to be some finite cost to sell and activate the entitlements.  If the 
number of sales would be in the single digits, it would actually make sense to 
just unlock it for free as Tyson Burris suggested.  I would be surprised 
though.  If nobody wants it, wouldn’t they just kill the feature so they 
wouldn’t have to support it?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of castarritt
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Their shareholders are likely breathing down their necks even harder than their 
customers, so they are also in a mad scramble to make money.

 

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:23 AM Tyson Burris mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.  

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
  www.surfici.net   

 



 

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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Tough crowd.

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to distributors 
yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock MU-MIMO on a 
450m Lite.  My mistake.

 

What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?  And how are 
customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they don’t tell us the 
price?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[dmmoffett]

I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described
what they meant and what the knobs are for.  I also always felt that Cambium
was listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and
wanted.  

If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in the few
cases I did need support it was available and I didn't have to pay for it.
They also never BS'd me about what the product could do, and they never
failed to support a product for a reasonable amount of time..even the 320
which was kind of a dog.

 

Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change
an integer value and not ever tell you what it does.  We also paid real
money for support who couldn't help us, and certain people there made absurd
claims about capabilities.

 

Ubiquiti gives you what they give you and doesn't help you at all.  You can
try to get answers on the forum, but the signal to noise ratio on a support
forum can be terrible.  Alvarion VL was a decent product for it's time, but
all their Wimax stuff was garbage.  I'd actually take PMP320 with all of its
idiosyncrasies over any Alvarion BreezeMax or whatever else.  And the list
of terrible PMP products is too long to get into.  There must have been
three dozen stupid WiFi things packaged up like they were something more
awesome than just a stupid WiFi thing.  

 

I don't know what's up with Cambium haters.  Did they actually use it and
objectively compare it to the competition, or are they blinded by the desire
to save a few dollars?

 

Anyway...the short version of all that is that all I had to do to appreciate
Cambium PMP was try someone else's crap for awhile.  If the worst thing we
have to complain about is that a feature shipped before a license key was on
the market then that's not a bad product.  

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze
it seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you
optimize the settings.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/13/2024 9:23:06 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this
point.  

 

 


Tyson Burris 
President & CEO 

 


Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 

 

317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) 
317-738-0320 (office)
  t...@franklinisp.net   
??www.surfici.net 

 



 

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Cameras - Fiber - MDUs  

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Tough crowd.

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09?AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Turns out you are right, they haven't released the license key to
distributors yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock
MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.  My mistake.

 

What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30
day trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?  And
how are customers supposed to decide if it's worth the price if they don't
tell us the price?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Ken Hohhof]

They do seem to have some headwinds.

 

But shareholder micromanagement is probably worse than stodgy product managers 
having the reins.

 

Developing and releasing a feature and failing to charge for it seems counter 
to a mad scramble to make money.  Unless they are finding that almost nobody 
wants it, which might be the case.  Even if license keys seem like 100% profit, 
there has to be some finite cost to sell and activate the entitlements.  If the 
number of sales would be in the single digits, it would actually make sense to 
just unlock it for free as Tyson Burris suggested.  I would be surprised 
though.  If nobody wants it, wouldn’t they just kill the feature so they 
wouldn’t have to support it?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of castarritt
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Their shareholders are likely breathing down their necks even harder than their 
customers, so they are also in a mad scramble to make money.

 

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:23 AM Tyson Burris mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.  

 

 


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Tough crowd.

 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to distributors 
yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock MU-MIMO on a 
450m Lite.  My mistake.

 

What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?  And how are 
customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they don’t tell us the 
price?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.

 

 


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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[castarritt]

Their shareholders are likely breathing down their necks even harder than
their customers, so they are also in a mad scramble to make money.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:23 AM Tyson Burris  wrote:

> Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks
> breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this
> point.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris*
> *President & CEO*
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>
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>
> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131
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> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
>
>
>
> Tough crowd.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to
> distributors yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock
> MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.  My mistake.
>
>
>
> What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a
> 30 day trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?
> And how are customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they
> don’t tell us the price?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
>
>
>
> Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris*
> *President & CEO*
>
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>
> Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
>
> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131
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> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
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> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
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>
>
> That's what my distributor has it listed for.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Tyson Burris"
> Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature
>
> I was told they are still talking 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Ken Hohhof]

450m and 450 in general has so many knobs you can tweak and stats to analyze it 
seems they should have an AI powered advisor in cnMaestro to help you optimize 
the settings. Original Message From: "Tyson Burris" Sent: 2/13/2024 
9:23:06 AMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 
450m uplink interference cancellation feature







Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.? I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.?

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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

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Tough crowd.

?


On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09?AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:





Turns out you are right, they haven?t released the license key to distributors 
yet.? I was looking at the P/N and price for the key
 to unlock MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.? My mistake.
?
What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond
 the 30 days?? And how are customers supposed to decide if it?s worth the price 
if they don?t tell us the price?
?


From: AF 
On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature


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Correction to my comment.? I can?t see the benefit.
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From: AF 
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To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

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That's what my distributor has it listed for.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

I was told they are still talking about the final price.? Either way I can see 
the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Tyson Burris]

Cambium is in a bit of scramble mode with everything going on and folks 
breathing down their neck.  I fully expect this to be a free unlock at this 
point.


Tyson Burris
President & CEO

Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131

[Mobile mobile-icon]317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours)
[phone phone-icon]317-738-0320 (office)
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Tough crowd.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to distributors 
yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock MU-MIMO on a 
450m Lite.  My mistake.

What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?  And how are 
customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they don’t tell us the 
price?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.


Tyson Burris
President & CEO

Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131

[Mobile  mobile-icon]317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours)
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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

That's what my distributor has it listed for.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris"
Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature
I was told they are still talking about the final price.  Either way I can see 
the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.


Tyson Burris
President & CEO

Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Josh Luthman]

Tough crowd.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to
> distributors yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock
> MU-MIMO on a 450m Lite.  My mistake.
>
>
>
> What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a
> 30 day trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?
> And how are customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they
> don’t tell us the price?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
>
>
>
> Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris*
> *President & CEO*
>
>
>
> Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
>
> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131
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> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
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> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
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>
>
> That's what my distributor has it listed for.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Tyson Burris"
> Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature
>
> I was told they are still talking about the final price.  Either way I can
> see the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris*
> *President & CEO*
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>
> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:00 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation
> feature
>
>
>
> I think you know the answer, it's $2000 per AP. $2500 MSRP.
>
> I'd pay it if 3x and 4x modulations were suddenly 6x or 8x. But they're
> not.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Craig Schmaderer"
> Sent: 2/1/2024 10:40:30 AM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

[Ken Hohhof]

Turns out you are right, they haven’t released the license key to distributors 
yet.  I was looking at the P/N and price for the key to unlock MU-MIMO on a 
450m Lite.  My mistake.

 

What is Cambium thinking, put the feature in a production release with a 30 day 
trial license, but not sell the key to use it beyond the 30 days?  And how are 
customers supposed to decide if it’s worth the price if they don’t tell us the 
price?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 3:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

Correction to my comment.  I can’t see the benefit.

 

 


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

That's what my distributor has it listed for.

 Original Message 
From: "Tyson Burris" 
Sent: 2/8/2024 3:02:42 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

I was told they are still talking about the final price.  Either way I can see 
the benefit here if you have to give up some of the AP features to work.

 

 


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

 

I think you know the answer, it's $2000 per AP. $2500 MSRP.

I'd pay it if 3x and 4x modulations were suddenly 6x or 8x. But they're not.

 Original Message 
From: "Craig Schmaderer" 
Sent: 2/1/2024 10:40:30 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

$2000???   Please tell me that is not per Access Point?I could handle maybe 
that for all of them.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 9:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'