Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Well, we are probably not one of their traditional channels. I would think
they would appoint someone as the WISP sales manager.
From: Tushar Patel
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:33 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Chuck,
Maybe you get special consideration! But my experience has been different.
I had requested a quote at WISPAPALOOSA, never heard back from them, Finally I
wanted to make decision so I filled out a online form on 1/20, I got 1 email
about they will be in touch, I left a message on the phone next day, nothing
after that.
Just before I posted here I did send them email stating them how nobody was
getting back to me, immediately after that email I did get a call and someone
from Calix who is on this list also got back to me. I finally have a quote from
them.
Anyway all is good now, hope I will have better experience/communication going
forward.
Thanks,
Tushar
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 5:53 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Wow that is odd. Normally Calix is right on the ball with us.
From: Tushar Patel
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:05 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!!
They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!!
Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!!
I hope that is not how their supports works too.
How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I
have heard is everyone gets different price too!!
Tushar
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info
with him if you’d like
Ryan Hill
Operations Manager
Amplex Internet
(419)837-5015 Ext 1047
www.amplex.net
On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster
of people on the list that know where Naperville is.
I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
--
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out
his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I
also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember
who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region
manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal
with. First step: NDA.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
--
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett wrote:
Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Jason McKemie"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Gotcha, thanks.
So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact
there?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl
wrote:
Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Chuck, Maybe you get special consideration! But my experience has been different. I had requested a quote at WISPAPALOOSA, never heard back from them, Finally I wanted to make decision so I filled out a online form on 1/20, I got 1 email about they will be in touch, I left a message on the phone next day, nothing after that. Just before I posted here I did send them email stating them how nobody was getting back to me, immediately after that email I did get a call and someone from Calix who is on this list also got back to me. I finally have a quote from them. Anyway all is good now, hope I will have better experience/communication going forward. Thanks, Tushar From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 5:53 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Wow that is odd. Normally Calix is right on the ball with us. From: Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:05 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! I hope that is not how their supports works too. How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I have heard is everyone gets different price too!! Tushar From: AF [ <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info with him if you’d like Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 <http://www.amplex.net> www.amplex.net On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Ken Hohhof" < <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> af...@kwisp.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Josh Luthman" < &
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
They've been great to me. I've only ordered a couple of boxes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:30 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order. > You have more leverage to get better pricing if you order more QTY. > > We ordered 1000 Calix units last year and got a GREAT deal. Then they > allowed us to spread out shipment delivery to 100 a month. > > We do the same thing with our radio vendors too. It gives them months to > know what kind of stock they need to keep on hand to fulfill our orders. > > > > On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: > > My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! > > They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! > > Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! > > I hope that is not how their supports works too. > > How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and > what I have heard is everyone gets different price too!! > > Tushar > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Ryan Hill > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact > info with him if you’d like > > > > > > * Ryan Hill * >Operations Manager > *Amplex I**nternet* > (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 > www.amplex.net > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a > cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. > > I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig > out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or > something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, > Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name > Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough > to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > > Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Sat, Jan 25,
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Wow that is odd. Normally Calix is right on the ball with us.
From: Tushar Patel
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:05 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!!
They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!!
Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!!
I hope that is not how their supports works too.
How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I
have heard is everyone gets different price too!!
Tushar
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info
with him if you’d like
Ryan Hill
Operations Manager
Amplex Internet
(419)837-5015 Ext 1047
www.amplex.net
On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster
of people on the list that know where Naperville is.
I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
--
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out
his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I
also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember
who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region
manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal
with. First step: NDA.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
--
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett wrote:
Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Jason McKemie"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Gotcha, thanks.
So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact
there?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl
wrote:
Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since
increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and
customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing upfront.
This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great
luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a
free router for just $10 more with our new plans.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie
wrote:
So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on?
Do you charge an upfront fee?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl
wrote:
I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We
are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and
many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we
upsell.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote:
Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new
WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load
of routers every day.
For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand exis
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
We are looking at them, among others. I especially like how their routers are their own linux operating system based off OpenWRT and docker. They can load pretty much any type of app on it. The costs initially looked ok, but initially we are looking to buy the higher end stuff for our current fiber projects. Anyone have any expertise with their cli? Is it similar to cisco/juniper? I'm due to get a demo soon. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Darin Steffl" To: "af" Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:50:13 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) We also committed to purchasing 1500 Calix routers and got a deal we're happy with. We spread the shipments out 150 at a time every couple months and it worked well. If you're having trouble with sales guys returning calls, reach out to this contact and ask him to help. Be respectful but he should be able to light a fire for you. [ mailto:skip.hirv...@calix.com | skip.hirv...@calix.com ] On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 10:30 AM Cassidy B. Larson < [ mailto:c...@infowest.com | c...@infowest.com ] > wrote: Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order. You have more leverage to get better pricing if you order more QTY. We ordered 1000 Calix units last year and got a GREAT deal. Then they allowed us to spread out shipment delivery to 100 a month. We do the same thing with our radio vendors too. It gives them months to know what kind of stock they need to keep on hand to fulfill our orders. BQ_BEGIN On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Tushar Patel < [ mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com | tpa...@ecpi.com ] > wrote: My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! I hope that is not how their supports works too. How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I have heard is everyone gets different price too!! Tushar From: AF [ [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] ] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info with him if you’d like Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex I nternet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 [ http://www.amplex.net/ | www.amplex.net ] BQ_BEGIN On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett < [ mailto:af...@ics-il.net | af...@ics-il.net ] > wrote: Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. - Mike Hammett [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] From: "Ken Hohhof" < [ mailto:af...@kwisp.com | af...@kwisp.com ] > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ https://twitter.com/ICSIL ]
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
We also committed to purchasing 1500 Calix routers and got a deal we're happy with. We spread the shipments out 150 at a time every couple months and it worked well. If you're having trouble with sales guys returning calls, reach out to this contact and ask him to help. Be respectful but he should be able to light a fire for you. skip.hirv...@calix.com On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 10:30 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order. > You have more leverage to get better pricing if you order more QTY. > > We ordered 1000 Calix units last year and got a GREAT deal. Then they > allowed us to spread out shipment delivery to 100 a month. > > We do the same thing with our radio vendors too. It gives them months to > know what kind of stock they need to keep on hand to fulfill our orders. > > > > On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: > > My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! > > They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! > > Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! > > I hope that is not how their supports works too. > > How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and > what I have heard is everyone gets different price too!! > > Tushar > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Ryan Hill > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact > info with him if you’d like > > > > > > * Ryan Hill * >Operations Manager > *Amplex I**nternet* > (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 > www.amplex.net > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a > cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. > > I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig > out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or > something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, > Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name > Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough > to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > > Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > That's my gu
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order. You have more leverage to get better pricing if you order more QTY. We ordered 1000 Calix units last year and got a GREAT deal. Then they allowed us to spread out shipment delivery to 100 a month. We do the same thing with our radio vendors too. It gives them months to know what kind of stock they need to keep on hand to fulfill our orders. > On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: > > My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! > > They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! > > Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! > > I hope that is not how their supports works too. > > How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I > have heard is everyone gets different price too!! > > Tushar > > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Ryan Hill > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact > info with him if you’d like > > > > > > Ryan Hill >Operations Manager > Amplex Internet > (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 > www.amplex.net <http://www.amplex.net/> > > > > > > > > >> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >> >> Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster >> of people on the list that know where Naperville is. >> >> I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) >> >> I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig >> out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. >> But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t >> remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great >> Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find >> out who to deal with. First step: NDA. >> >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) >> >> Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> From: "Josh Luthman" > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group&
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! I hope that is not how their supports works too. How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I have heard is everyone gets different price too!! Tushar From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info with him if you’d like Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 <http://www.amplex.net> www.amplex.net On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jason McKemie" mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" m
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info with him if you’d like Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 www.amplex.net <http://www.amplex.net/> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster > of people on the list that know where Naperville is. > > I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out > his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But > I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t > remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great > Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out > who to deal with. First step: NDA. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Josh Luthman" <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Jason McKemie" <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Gotcha, thanks. > > So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact > there? > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steff
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster of people on the list that know where Naperville is. I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Gotcha, thanks. So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact there? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing upfront. This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do you charge an upfront fee? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of routers every day. For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie. From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the 844G. On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive compared to alternatives. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something. But I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott. I don’t remember who did what. I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great Lakes region manager? But they should be easy enough to contact and find out who to deal with. First step: NDA. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jason McKemie" mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Gotcha, thanks. So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact there? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing upfront. This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do you charge an upfront fee? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of routers every day. For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest Last time
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Gotcha, thanks. So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact there? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing upfront. This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do you charge an upfront fee? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of routers every day. For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie. From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the 844G. On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive compared to alternatives. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to sacrifice my firstborn for. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: Guys, Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we include the first router free in all our plans. Makes a huge difference. Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel away from our radio. We have one customer w
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
That's my guy for Ohio. He lives in Kentucky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Jason McKemie" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) > > Gotcha, thanks. > > So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact > there? > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl > wrote: > >> Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since >> increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and >> customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing >> upfront. >> >> This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great >> luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and >> a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do >>> you charge an upfront fee? >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We >>>> are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice >>>> and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, >>>> we upsell. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>>> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP >>>>> just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load >>>>> of routers every day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing >>>>> customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to >>>>> Calix >>>>> and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s >>>>> also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE >>>>> department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project >>>>> for >>>>> the head techie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the >>>>> 844G. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in >>>>> terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost >>>>> savings, too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>>
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) Gotcha, thanks. So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact there? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing upfront. This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do you charge an upfront fee? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of routers every day. For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie. From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the 844G. On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive compared to alternatives. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to sacrifice my firstborn for. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: Guys, Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we include the first router free in all our plans. Makes a huge difference. Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that their service will stink until they switch to our router or get a different mesh system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net and selecting one server we like. Also they have to be hardwired to the POE or we won't respond to their tests. This eliminates much of the back and forth wifi speedtests. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue. WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's so bad it's j
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Yes purchase direct. They have different sales regions so you'll have to reach out to them and ask for your rep. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 2:53 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Gotcha, thanks. > > So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact > there? > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl > wrote: > >> Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since >> increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and >> customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing >> upfront. >> >> This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great >> luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and >> a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do >>> you charge an upfront fee? >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We >>>> are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice >>>> and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, >>>> we upsell. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>>> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP >>>>> just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load >>>>> of routers every day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing >>>>> customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to >>>>> Calix >>>>> and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s >>>>> also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE >>>>> department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project >>>>> for >>>>> the head techie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the >>>>> 844G. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in >>>>> terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost >>>>> savings, too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so >>>>> expensive compared to alternatives. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <http
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Gotcha, thanks. So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact there? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since > increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and > customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing > upfront. > > This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great > luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and > a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >> So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do >> you charge an upfront fee? >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl >> wrote: >> >>> I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We >>> are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice >>> and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, >>> we upsell. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>>> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP >>>> just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load >>>> of routers every day. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing >>>> customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix >>>> and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s >>>> also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE >>>> department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for >>>> the head techie. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the >>>> 844G. >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in >>>> terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost >>>> savings, too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> >>>> There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so >>>> expensive compared to alternatives. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" >>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, Ja
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do you charge an upfront fee? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl wrote: > I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are > a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and > many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we > upsell. > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP >> just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load >> of routers every day. >> >> >> >> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing >> customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix >> and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s >> also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE >> department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for >> the head techie. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >> >> >> >> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the >> 844G. >> >> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> >> Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms >> of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >> Suite 1337 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive >> compared to alternatives. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Jason McKemie" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >> >> What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into >> some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty >> proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense >> for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. >> >> >> >> I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's >> Dream Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple >> of decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need >> to sacrifice my firstborn for. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl >> wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> >> >> Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and >> we include the first router free in all our plans. >> >> >> >> Makes a huge difference. >> >> >> >> Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz >> channel away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that >> their service will stink until they switch to our router or get a different >> mesh system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. >> >> >> >> We also do n
Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP > just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load > of routers every day. > > > > For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing > customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix > and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s > also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE > department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for > the head techie. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest > > > > Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the > 844G. > > On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms > of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> > Suite 1337 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> > Troy, OH 45373 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > > There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive > compared to alternatives. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Jason McKemie" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest > > What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into > some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty > proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense > for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. > > > > I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream > Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of > decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to > sacrifice my firstborn for. > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl > wrote: > > Guys, > > > > Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we > include the first router free in all our plans. > > > > Makes a huge difference. > > > > Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel > away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that their > service will stink until they switch to our router or get a different mesh > system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. > > > > We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net and selecting > one server we like. Also they have to be hardwired to the POE or we won't > respond to their tests. This eliminates much of the back and forth wifi > speedtests. > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue. > WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's > so bad it's just not fixable. > > I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our service, > use at your own risk&q
[AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of routers every day. For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the 844G. On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> Suite 1337 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> Troy, OH 45373 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive compared to alternatives. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jason McKemie" mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to sacrifice my firstborn for. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: Guys, Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we include the first router free in all our plans. Makes a huge difference. Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that their service will stink until they switch to our router or get a different mesh system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> and selecting one server we like. Also they have to be hardwired to the POE or we won't respond to their tests. This eliminates much of the back and forth wifi speedtests. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue. WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's so bad it's just not fixable. I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our service, use at your own risk"... but of course, I can't do that. On 1/23/20 11:54 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Anybody know if the speedtest built into the Google and Nest WiFi mesh > routers use the same M-Lab speedtest as the one a Google search sends > you to? Their FAQ seems to indicate it is different and tests to > Youtube servers. > > Apparently they have a feature where customers can set it up to > periodically test their speed, and now I have customers calling in to > report that their router says they aren’t getting the speed they’re > paying for. We burn a bunch of time checking all the stats, i
