Re: [AFMUG] Design consideration

2020-10-26 Thread fiberrun
Are you doing 10G or 100G waves?

Are you muxing/demuxing at each site or using OADMs?

If you are only doing 10G waves, then you might want to look at other SFP+ 
vendors, as FS tops out at 80 km. Others have at least 120 km versions, which 
could potentially allow you to do unamplified spans.

Jared



Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 
From: "Paul McCall" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Design consideration

As per my other post, we will be connecting via DWDM to a DC in Miami.
 
On the way from Vero Beach, we have a spot in Ft. Pierce, (14 miles away) and 
then West Palm (60 miles from Ft. Pierce) and then on to a Miami DC (65 miles 
from West Palm).
 
In Ft. Pierce, I could see ourselves making use of the connectivity to our main 
NOC (breaking out BW and transit services there) but West Palm is not so much 
in our vision.  I definitely have to re-gen in West Palm and Ft. Pierce was 
optional but allows me to keep somewhat universal spares for all location AND 
the Colo’s at both the Ft. Pierce and West Palm location were dirt cheap. 
 
Of course, the reasons to get the DC in Miami are the obvious ones ($$ for BW 
and access to the IX etc.)
 
The question is Option A…do I pull the BW for West Palm and Ft. Pierce directly 
from the Miami DC to maximize BW and transit efficiency, or Option B…do I pull 
that from the Vero Beach (main NOC) side to get to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.  
With Option B, I need more channels from Vero to the DC to get more BW for use 
at each regen/  colo spot.  Option B gives us a more direct extension of our 
main network to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.
 
I am leaning towards pulling Ft. Pierce directly from Vero since I see a 
potential extension of our WAN more in the near term and then pulling West Palm 
directly from the DC.
 
These are new considerations for me, so I wanted to query the crowd for 
opinions / suggestions
 
Paul 😊
 
Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Design consideration

2020-10-26 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
We had a similar situation, but shorter route at 25 miles.
I chose to use 10G BiDi optics on each strand.  In the future, we can upgrade 
to 40G BiDi easily.

DC has 2 strands leaving.
1st strand stops at hop 1.  2nd strand continues on.
2nd strand stops at hop 2.  1st strand continues on.
1st strand stops at hop 3. 2nd strand continues on.
Etc…

By alternating breaks in the strands, we theoretically prevent a 
equipment/power failure along the line from taking down the whole line.
We did this for pennies compared to what DWDM cost.

As an added benefit, we can upgrade one segment at a time to faster 
optics/switches without taking down the whole thing.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 7:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Design consideration

As per my other post, we will be connecting via DWDM to a DC in Miami.

On the way from Vero Beach, we have a spot in Ft. Pierce, (14 miles away) and 
then West Palm (60 miles from Ft. Pierce) and then on to a Miami DC (65 miles 
from West Palm).

In Ft. Pierce, I could see ourselves making use of the connectivity to our main 
NOC (breaking out BW and transit services there) but West Palm is not so much 
in our vision.  I definitely have to re-gen in West Palm and Ft. Pierce was 
optional but allows me to keep somewhat universal spares for all location AND 
the Colo’s at both the Ft. Pierce and West Palm location were dirt cheap.

Of course, the reasons to get the DC in Miami are the obvious ones ($$ for BW 
and access to the IX etc.)

The question is Option A…do I pull the BW for West Palm and Ft. Pierce directly 
from the Miami DC to maximize BW and transit efficiency, or Option B…do I pull 
that from the Vero Beach (main NOC) side to get to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.  
With Option B, I need more channels from Vero to the DC to get more BW for use 
at each regen/  colo spot.  Option B gives us a more direct extension of our 
main network to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.

I am leaning towards pulling Ft. Pierce directly from Vero since I see a 
potential extension of our WAN more in the near term and then pulling West Palm 
directly from the DC.

These are new considerations for me, so I wanted to query the crowd for 
opinions / suggestions

Paul 😊

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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[AFMUG] Design consideration

2020-10-25 Thread Paul McCall
As per my other post, we will be connecting via DWDM to a DC in Miami.

On the way from Vero Beach, we have a spot in Ft. Pierce, (14 miles away) and 
then West Palm (60 miles from Ft. Pierce) and then on to a Miami DC (65 miles 
from West Palm).

In Ft. Pierce, I could see ourselves making use of the connectivity to our main 
NOC (breaking out BW and transit services there) but West Palm is not so much 
in our vision.  I definitely have to re-gen in West Palm and Ft. Pierce was 
optional but allows me to keep somewhat universal spares for all location AND 
the Colo’s at both the Ft. Pierce and West Palm location were dirt cheap.

Of course, the reasons to get the DC in Miami are the obvious ones ($$ for BW 
and access to the IX etc.)

The question is Option A…do I pull the BW for West Palm and Ft. Pierce directly 
from the Miami DC to maximize BW and transit efficiency, or Option B…do I pull 
that from the Vero Beach (main NOC) side to get to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.  
With Option B, I need more channels from Vero to the DC to get more BW for use 
at each regen/  colo spot.  Option B gives us a more direct extension of our 
main network to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.

I am leaning towards pulling Ft. Pierce directly from Vero since I see a 
potential extension of our WAN more in the near term and then pulling West Palm 
directly from the DC.

These are new considerations for me, so I wanted to query the crowd for 
opinions / suggestions

Paul 😊

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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