Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Good luck with that.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zayo-group-hldgs-m-a-digitalcolony/digital-colony-eqt-to-take-zayo-private-for-8-2-billion-in-cash-idUSKCN1SE1HH

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

 

I would love to put together a list of these stories and share it with their 
stockholders...

On 8/7/19 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Thankfully we don't have Zayo for any fiber but we had colo space in a 
datacenter they bought and boy has the experience changed. We were paying fair 
rates for colo and cross connects with the old company and now Zayo is jacking 
up our price 30% overnight to "Market Rates". 

 

We asked them to work with us and they refused so we threatened to cancel and 
they said go for it. So we submitted our cancellation request last month and 
we're ending our relationship with them due to their bullying behavior.

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:51 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Except now it's not Centurylink. I don't know of many other providers out there.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:47:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else 

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ 

 

 

It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.

 

I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this helps.

 



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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert 
I would love to put together a list of these stories and share it with 
their stockholders...


On 8/7/19 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Thankfully we don't have Zayo for any fiber but we had colo space in a 
datacenter they bought and boy has the experience changed. We were 
paying fair rates for colo and cross connects with the old company and 
now Zayo is jacking up our price 30% overnight to "Market Rates".


We asked them to work with us and they refused so we threatened to 
cancel and they said go for it. So we submitted our cancellation 
request last month and we're ending our relationship with them due to 
their bullying behavior.


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:51 PM Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


Except now it's not Centurylink. I don't know of many other
providers out there.



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*From: *"Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:47:07 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/



It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.

I know several of you have limited transport options, so
hopefully this helps.




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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Darin Steffl 
Thankfully we don't have Zayo for any fiber but we had colo space in a
datacenter they bought and boy has the experience changed. We were paying
fair rates for colo and cross connects with the old company and now Zayo is
jacking up our price 30% overnight to "Market Rates".

We asked them to work with us and they refused so we threatened to cancel
and they said go for it. So we submitted our cancellation request last
month and we're ending our relationship with them due to their bullying
behavior.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:51 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Except now it's not Centurylink. I don't know of many other providers out
> there.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:47:07 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT
>
> That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/
>>
>>
>> It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.
>>
>> I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this
>> helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
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>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett 
Except now it's not Centurylink. I don't know of many other providers out 
there. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:47:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT 



That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else 



On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ 




It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. 


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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Sean Heskett 
That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/
>
>
> It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.
>
> I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this
> helps.
>
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 8/7/19 9:43 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:

Yep, my experience with them is shit as well.   They bought out another company 
that I was working a transit deal on, and wanted triple the amount once they 
took ownership.  So I told them to pound sand.


Exact same thing happened to me too with an Electric Lightwave (Integra) 
order placed like maybe 8 months before that buyout. Zayo said they had 
no obligation to honor any ELI/Integra orders and the monthly cost would 
now be double and they acted like they were doing us a favor. The 
generous offer was declined.


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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Andrews 
Also if you look at their contract terms, cancellation policy, and sign 
said doc without modification you should have your head examined.  I 
sure that way about myself when I went to get out of their contract 
after 10 years.   And supposedly the CEO and I were friends at one point 
in our lives...


Lesson learned, karma returned...

On 08/07/2019 09:36 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 8/7/19 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

and?




Zayo is shit. They'll tell you they can deliver a service when they 
never actually intended to. Zayo will make up excuses for literally 
years, set "firm" dates that move every month, and say anything and 
blame anyone else except admitting they can't do the job.




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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Craig Schmaderer 
Yep, my experience with them is shit as well.   They bought out another company 
that I was working a transit deal on, and wanted triple the amount once they 
took ownership.  So I told them to pound sand.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:36 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

On 8/7/19 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> and?
> 
> 

Zayo is shit. They'll tell you they can deliver a service when they never 
actually intended to. Zayo will make up excuses for literally years, set "firm" 
dates that move every month, and say anything and blame anyone else except 
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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 8/7/19 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

and?




Zayo is shit. They'll tell you they can deliver a service when they 
never actually intended to. Zayo will make up excuses for literally 
years, set "firm" dates that move every month, and say anything and 
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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett 
I assume you have a point and that I didn't just hear an echo. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Craig Schmaderer"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:34:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT 



But it’s Zayo… 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:31 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT 


and? 



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From: "Robert" < i...@avantwireless.com > 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:16:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT 

But it's Zayo... 

On 8/7/19 8:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ 





It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. 



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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Craig Schmaderer 
But it’s Zayo…

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

and?


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To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:16:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

But it's Zayo...
On 8/7/19 8:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/


It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.

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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett 
and? 




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From: "Robert"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:16:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT 

But it's Zayo... 


On 8/7/19 8:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ 




It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. 


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Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert 

But it's Zayo...

On 8/7/19 8:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/


It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC.

I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully 
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[AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett 
https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ 




It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. 


I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this helps. 





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