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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck

There is excess capacity in the testing stations, but not the labs.  The 
labs are backed up and one of the labs the state uses failed some kind of 
federal certification.  So unsure if they are out of the running or not. 
Some director of state testing got removed from her position because she did 
not want to use this lab that failed the certification.  So a bit of drama 
about it.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:50 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Sounds like you have reason for the whole team and families to go, if
there is still the excess capacity...

On 06/09/2020 08:42 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

2 days.  He supposedly took himself this morning.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:39 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Send him to a drive-thru testing station.  What’s the turnaround on tests 
now in Utah?


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...

And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not 
distance  arrgh


*From:*Bill Prince

*Sent:*Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp




On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs
margarine.  What kind of diet is best.

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are
rare.

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational. You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?


*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we
can't double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They
held their own study to a high standard, it failed, and they
retracted it.  It would have been better if they hadn't published
it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a mistake.

Keep in mind there are /hundreds /of studies and clinical trials
under way.  If a few get thrown out there will still be a strong
body of evidence.  As of right now the evidence is still saying that
hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a treatment, but there is
reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  If the
completion of more studies leads to a different /stronger/
conclusion then of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me
that medical studies became a political topic in the US, so I'm
choosing to believe it really isn't one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook
is littered with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we
learned the absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public
gatherings and riots.

--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett
 wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When
pressed on how they acquired data on 96,000 cases the
research company replied that they aren't allowed to say due
to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be
verified, therefore not adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were
"tricked" by evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science
did it's job.  By contrast how often does a politician come
back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"? How often
does anyone do that?

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social


... I just can't believe it!




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Robert Andrews

Sounds like you have reason for the whole team and families to go, if
there is still the excess capacity...

On 06/09/2020 08:42 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

2 days. He supposedly took himself this morning.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:39 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Send him to a drive-thru testing station. What’s the turnaround on
tests now in Utah?

*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...

And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not
distance arrgh

*From:*Bill Prince

*Sent:*Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies. Or butter vs
margarine. What kind of diet is best.

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes. Those are
rare.

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.
You’re confusing me, is this a trick?

*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is. The authors said, "we
can't double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough." They
held their own study to a high standard, it failed, and they
retracted it. It would have been better if they hadn't published
it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a mistake.

Keep in mind there are /hundreds /of studies and clinical trials
under way. If a few get thrown out there will still be a strong
body of evidence. As of right now the evidence is still saying that
hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a treatment, but there is
reason to hope that it might work as a preventative. If the
completion of more studies leads to a different /stronger/
conclusion then of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me
that medical studies became a political topic in the US, so I'm
choosing to believe it really isn't one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here. Facebook
is littered with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.

No worries, it's not a thing. The big news now is, recently we
learned the absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public
gatherings and riots.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett
wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company. When
pressed on how they acquired data on 96,000 cases the
research company replied that they aren't allowed to say due
to confidentiality agreements. Therefore the data can't be
verified, therefore not adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were
"tricked" by evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science
did it's job. By contrast how often does a politician come
back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"? How often
does anyone do that?

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

... I just can't believe it!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck

2 days.  He supposedly took himself this morning.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Send him to a drive-thru testing station.  What’s the turnaround on tests now 
in Utah?

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...

And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not distance 
 arrgh

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  
What kind of diet is best.   

  Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 

  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM

  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't 
double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own 
study to a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been 
better if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit 
a mistake.

  Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If 
a few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of 
right now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective 
as a treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a 
preventative.  If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger 
conclusion then of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that 
medical studies became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe 
it really isn't one.

  I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is 
littered with it.

  On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned 
the absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

  They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how 
they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they 
aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data 
can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

  Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by 
evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how 
often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"? 
 How often does anyone do that? 

  On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

... I just can't believe it!  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof

Send him to a drive-thru testing station.  What’s the turnaround on tests now 
in Utah?

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...

And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not distance 
 arrgh

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp

On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  What 
kind of diet is best.   

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.  

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that? 

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20

<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social>
 _source=twitter_medium=social  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread James Howard

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-who-bn/index.html

looks like you’re sunk.  They’re saying asymptomatic cases “rarely” transmit 
now but the German study says that it was often transmitted the day before or 
the day of symptoms appearing…….

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...
And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not distance 
 arrgh

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp

On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  What 
kind of diet is best.

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.
I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:
I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.
--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that?

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

... I just can't believe it!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
I remember that movie. Hamburgers (in the future) were deemed
  health food. ... and they uncovered a 200 year-old VW bug that
  still worked.


bp



On 6/9/2020 8:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
There was a Woody Allen movie Sleeper where
  in the future science has proven that wheat germ is poison,
  and fat and chocolate are health foods.
 

  
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Bill
  Prince
  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:04 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered
  

 
Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!
 
bp

 

  On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
wrote:


  

  
This reminds me
of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs
margarine.  What kind of diet is best.   
  
  
 
  
  
Always nice to
have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are
rare.  
  
  

  
 
  
  

  From:
  Ken Hohhof 


  Sent:
  Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM


  To:
  'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 


  Subject:
  Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  


   

  
  
Go back
to your parallel universe where people are still
rational.  You’re confusing me, is this a trick?
 

  
From: AF 
On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were
snookered
  

 
I'm not
really sure what the complaint is.  The authors
said, "we can't double check this data, therefore it
isn't good enough."  They held their own study to a
high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It
would have been better if they hadn't published it,
but nevertheless they were willing to admit a
mistake.
Keep in
mind there are hundreds of studies and
clinical trials under way.  If a few get thrown out
there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As
of right now the evidence is still saying that
hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a treatment,
but there is reason to hope that it might work as a
preventative.  If the completion of more studies
leads to a different stronger conclusion
then of course we should accept that. It's baffling
to me that medical studies became a political topic
in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really
isn't one.
I'm not
interested in discussing riots or protests here. 
Facebook is littered with it.
 

  On
  6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:


  
I
thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real
science. 

  No
  worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now
  is, recently we learned the absolute cure for
  COVID-19:    Mass public gatherings and riots.


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  Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof

There was a Woody Allen movie Sleeper where in the future science has proven 
that wheat germ is poison, and fat and chocolate are health foods.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp

On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  What 
kind of diet is best.   

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.  

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

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On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that? 

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20

<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck

One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning...
And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not distance 
 arrgh

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!

bp

On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  
What kind of diet is best.   

  Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't 
double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own 
study to a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been 
better if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit 
a mistake.

  Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If 
a few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of 
right now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective 
as a treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a 
preventative.  If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger 
conclusion then of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that 
medical studies became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe 
it really isn't one.

  I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is 
littered with it.

  On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned 
the absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

  They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how 
they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they 
aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data 
can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

  Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by 
evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how 
often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"? 
 How often does anyone do that? 

  On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules!


bp



On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  
  
  

  This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or
butter vs margarine.  What kind of diet is best.   
   
  Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes. 
Those are rare.  
  

   
  
From: Ken
Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered
  

 
  
  

  Go back to your parallel universe
where people are still rational.  You’re confusing me,
is this a trick?
   
  

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Adam
Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  
   
  I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors
said, "we can't double check this data, therefore it
isn't good enough."  They held their own study to a high
standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would
have been better if they hadn't published it, but
nevertheless they were willing to admit a mistake.
  Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and
clinical trials under way.  If a few get thrown out
there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of
right now the evidence is still saying that
hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a treatment, but
there is reason to hope that it might work as a
preventative.  If the completion of more studies leads
to a different stronger conclusion then of
course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that
medical studies became a political topic in the US, so
I'm choosing to believe it really isn't one.
  I'm not interested in discussing
riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered with it.
   
  
On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname .
  wrote:
  
  

  I thought if it's not
peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 
  
No worries, it's not a thing.  
  The big news now is, recently we learned the
  absolute cure for COVID-19:    Mass public
  gatherings and riots.
  
  
--
  
  
 
  
  
 
  

 

  
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM
  Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
  

  They bought the source data from a research
company.  When pressed on how they acquired data
on 96,000 cases the research company replied
that they aren't allowed to say due to
confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data
can't be verified, therefore not adequate for
science.  
  Rather than believing the popular narrative
that we were "tricked" by evil scientists, I'm
quite happy that science did it's job.  By
contrast how often does a politician come back
and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"? 
How often does anyone do that? 
   
  
On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM,
  justsumname . wrote:
  
  

  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social 

  
 
  
  
... I just can't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread James Howard

Facebook is littered with it

Pun intended?  Based on the pictures I've seen, everywhere is littered 
afterwards...

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.
I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:
I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.
--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that?

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

... I just can't believe it!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck

This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  What 
kind of diet is best.   

Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes.  Those are rare.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

  I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

  No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

  --

  On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how 
they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they 
aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data 
can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that? 

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof

Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational.  You’re 
confusing me, is this a trick?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double 
check this data, therefore it isn't good enough."  They held their own study to 
a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better 
if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were willing to admit a 
mistake.

Keep in mind there are hundreds of studies and clinical trials under way.  If a 
few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of evidence.  As of right 
now the evidence is still saying that hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a 
treatment, but there is reason to hope that it might work as a preventative.  
If the completion of more studies leads to a different stronger conclusion then 
of course we should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies 
became a political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't 
one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here.  Facebook is littered 
with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. 

No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.

--

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that? 

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20

<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Chuck McCown

They opened things back up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
>  I heard that Utah is at a 21% growth rate right now.  6th of 50..  what 
> changed?
> 
>> On 6/8/20 8:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:
>> I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
>> No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned the 
>> absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>> They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how 
>>> they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they 
>>> aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the 
>>> data can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.  
>>> 
>>> Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
>>> scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how 
>>> often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about 
>>> that"?  How often does anyone do that? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social
  
 
 ... I just can't believe it!  
 
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Adam Moffett

I'm not really sure what the complaint is. The authors said, "we can't
double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough." They held their
own study to a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it. It
would have been better if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless
they were willing to admit a mistake.

Keep in mind there are /hundreds /of studies and clinical trials under
way. If a few get thrown out there will still be a strong body of
evidence. As of right now the evidence is still saying that
hydroxychloroquine is not effective as a treatment, but there is reason
to hope that it might work as a preventative. If the completion of more
studies leads to a different /stronger/ conclusion then of course we
should accept that. It's baffling to me that medical studies became a
political topic in the US, so I'm choosing to believe it really isn't one.

I'm not interested in discussing riots or protests here. Facebook is
littered with it.

On 6/8/2020 11:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
No worries, it's not a thing. The big news now is, recently we
learned the absolute cure for COVID-19: Mass public gatherings and
riots.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:

They bought the source data from a research company. When pressed
on how they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company
replied that they aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality
agreements. Therefore the data can't be verified, therefore not
adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked"
by evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job. By
contrast how often does a politician come back and say, "oh I
guess I was wrong about that"? How often does anyone do that?

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

... I just can't believe it!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-08 Thread Robert

I heard that Utah is at a 21% growth rate right now.  6th of 50..  what 
changed?


On 6/8/20 8:30 PM, justsumname . wrote:

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we 
learned the absolute cure for COVID-19:    Mass public gatherings and 
riots.

--



On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:


They bought the source data from a research company. When pressed
on how they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company
replied that they aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality
agreements.  Therefore the data can't be verified, therefore not
adequate for science.

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked"
by evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By
contrast how often does a politician come back and say, "oh I
guess I was wrong about that"? How often does anyone do that?


On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-08 Thread justsumname .

I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science.
No worries, it's not a thing.   The big news now is, recently we learned
the absolute cure for COVID-19:Mass public gatherings and riots.
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how
> they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they
> aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the
> data can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.
>
> Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil
> scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how
> often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about
> that"?  How often does anyone do that?
>
>
> On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
>
>
> https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social
>
>
> ... I just can't believe it!
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-08 Thread Jason McKemie

I've been watching it as well, really funny IMO.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 10:10 AM  wrote:

> Reminds me of a scene from “space force”.  Critics trashed the series but
> I took a chance.  I find it funny AF.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, June 8, 2020 7:58 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered
>
>
> They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how
> they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they
> aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the
> data can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.
>
> Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil
> scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how
> often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about
> that"?  How often does anyone do that?
>
>
> On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
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> https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social
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> ... I just can't believe it!
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-08 Thread chuck

Reminds me of a scene from “space force”.  Critics trashed the series but I 
took a chance.  I find it funny AF.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:58 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on how they 
acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that they aren't 
allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore the data can't be 
verified, therefore not adequate for science.  

Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by evil 
scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast how often 
does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong about that"?  How 
often does anyone do that? 

On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

  ... I just can't believe it!  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-08 Thread Adam Moffett

They bought the source data from a research company.  When pressed on 
how they acquired data on 96,000 cases the research company replied that 
they aren't allowed to say due to confidentiality agreements.  Therefore 
the data can't be verified, therefore not adequate for science.


Rather than believing the popular narrative that we were "tricked" by 
evil scientists, I'm quite happy that science did it's job.  By contrast 
how often does a politician come back and say, "oh I guess I was wrong 
about that"?  How often does anyone do that?



On 6/7/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname . wrote:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social 



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
It is standard practice in the camping world to take a water jug
  (of whatever type), and pour a cap-full of bleach into it. You
  then swish it around to coat the sides of the jug & then dump
  out any remainder. Then fill with water. The residual bleach will
  kill the nasties for a week or two (at least).


bp



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  wrote:


  
  

  Snort it.
   
  Actually I do drink from a Clorox bottle every morning. 
I have it full of water and I use to wash down a metformin. 
When I was a kid, bleach bottles were what we used for
canteens.  After the Clorox issue being in the news, I saw
an empty bleach bottle in the laundry room, rinsed it out
and filled it just for fun.  
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:09 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered
  

 
  
  
You take it intravenously or orally?

bp



On 6/7/2020 8:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just
fine for me.  
  

   
  
From: justsumname . 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were
  snookered
  

 
  
  
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social 
   
  ... I just can't believe it!  
  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread chuck

My nephew, who is 4 years younger than I and was essentially by brother, was 
dragged to a sink by a cranky nun and told to wash his mouth with soap.  He 
started taking bites out of the bar of soap and chewing.  She freaked out and 
started smacking him on the top of his head telling him to spit it out.  

That incident was actually written up in a book by a comic named John Callahan. 
 However he said it happened to him.  My nephew was in the same class as his 
brother.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:14 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

Actually we’re told soap is sufficient, no need to use bleach.  So remember 
that teacher who would wash kids mouths out with soap?  Oh, I guess they’re not 
allowed to do that anymore.  Too bad.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_out_the_mouth_with_soap

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

 

My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just fine for me.  

 

From: justsumname . 

Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social
  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread chuck

Snort it.

Actually I do drink from a Clorox bottle every morning.  I have it full of 
water and I use to wash down a metformin.  When I was a kid, bleach bottles 
were what we used for canteens.  After the Clorox issue being in the news, I 
saw an empty bleach bottle in the laundry room, rinsed it out and filled it 
just for fun.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:09 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

You take it intravenously or orally?


bp


On 6/7/2020 8:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just fine for me.  

  From: justsumname . 
  Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

  
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social
  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof

Actually we’re told soap is sufficient, no need to use bleach.  So remember 
that teacher who would wash kids mouths out with soap?  Oh, I guess they’re not 
allowed to do that anymore.  Too bad.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_out_the_mouth_with_soap

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

 

My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just fine for me.  

 

From: justsumname . 

Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20
 
<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social>
 _source=twitter_medium=social  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
You take it intravenously or orally?

bp



On 6/7/2020 8:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just fine for
me.  
  

   
  
From: justsumname
. 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered
  

 
  
  
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social 
   
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread chuck

My daily dose of Clorox seems to be working just fine for me.  

From: justsumname . 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social

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[AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-07 Thread justsumname .

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20_source=twitter_medium=social


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