Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
You are certainly under the bridge with the rest of us now... From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call Since we are playing grammar police, I think it is written "intents and purposes". I suspect that this is already known and I just fell into a troll trap. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:15 PM Bill Prince wrote: It's not "irregardless", it's "undissirregardless". You should no that. bp On 7/30/2019 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: For all intensive purposes this is not music to my oldtimers brane. Irreguardless, it should be allow to call itself music. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call Now could you care less? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call That was music? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, your music really does suck.” From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
Since we are playing grammar police, I think it is written "intents and purposes". I suspect that this is already known and I just fell into a troll trap. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:15 PM Bill Prince wrote: > It's not "irregardless", it's "undissirregardless". > > You should no that. > > > bp > > > > On 7/30/2019 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > For all intensive purposes this is not music to my oldtimers brane. > Irreguardless, it should be allow to call itself music. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:40 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > Now could you care less? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > > That was music? > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > > OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m > very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb > of God, which I know has a loyal following. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k > > > > Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, > your music really does suck.” > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > > I could care less... > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating. > > > > Not sure why everyone says it wrong. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call > > > > I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) > > > On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are > better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is > the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of > grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. > > > > I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not > want to do that. > > > > The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading > system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM > 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. > They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at > the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX > data. Fun stuff. > > > > > -- > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
It's not "irregardless", it's "undissirregardless". You should no that. bp On 7/30/2019 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: For all intensive purposes this is not music to my oldtimers brane. Irreguardless, it should be allow to call itself music. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call Now could you care less? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call That was music? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, your music really does suck.” From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
For all intensive purposes this is not music to my oldtimers brane. Irreguardless, it should be allow to call itself music. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call Now could you care less? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call That was music? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, your music really does suck.” From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
Now could you care less? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call That was music? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, your music really does suck.” From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
That was music? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call OK, it looks like there’s an official music video for that, can’t say I’m very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said “It’s not that I’m old, your music really does suck.” From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
OK, it looks like there's an official music video for that, can't say I'm very fond of the band or the song. But the comments compare them to Lamb of God, which I know has a loyal following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_nsXgtD6k Someone once gave me a bumper sticker that said "It's not that I'm old, your music really does suck." From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
I could care less... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not sure why everyone says it wrong. From: AF On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:19 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
I was always taught the proof is in the puddin :) On 7/18/19 10:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT fun call
It's easier to answer why are my products good than why are they better than my competitor, unless you know everything about your competitor and are willing to badmouth them. Ultimately you are right, the buyer has to believe other users not the salespeople. Maybe the answers would be along the lines of: - you are talking to the owner who is also the product designer, can you do that with the other guys - I used to own and run a WISP, so I understand what my customers need - I get constant feedback from customers and that drives product innovations and improvements - my products are designed to maximize data integrity, not just surge protection - made in the USA (although this particular customer may not care about that) From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:20 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT fun call I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] OT fun call
I got a call from a guy wanting to know why my surge suppressors are better than Transtector. Hard question to answer. Which paper towel is the quicker picker upper. Duracell or Energizer etc. He had lots of grounding opinions etc. Was a bit of a tedious call in the beginning. I told him to get on this list and get opinions from users. He did not want to do that. The conversation evolved into him describeing the high frequency trading system he is building using HF radio to Europe. Curtain Arrays. 16-64 QAM 50-200 kbps. 50 kW transmitter I think. A real hummingbird project. They send the data via radio and fiber. Then at the far end they look at the delayed pure data to adjust RF equalizer circuits to clean up the RX data. Fun stuff. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com