Re: [AFMUG] Server Hardware

2018-11-26 Thread Adam Moffett
That's good input.  In the past I've always gone to used servers as the 
secondary market is always flush with gently used Dell and HP.

In this case I have reasons to look for new.

On 11/26/2018 11:43 AM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote:

You can purchase a 24 core xeon box for 250-300 ish on ebay.  RAM is king 
though.

With products like Proxmox, its hard to identify what one is better.  I would 
state that as long as you have data backups then get smaller boxes with huge 
CPU and RAM, where your data comes from don't matter as long as it has 
redundancy.


Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com


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On 11/26/2018 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

It's been a few years since I last went on this journey.

(1) Will I get better prices on Dell from a VAR than I see on the Dell
website?

(2) I've heard Supermicro touted as a value brand, but when I spec
similar Supermicro and Dell systems Dell comes out cheaper.  Am I
missing something?

(3) Do you prefer a whole lot of cheap systems, or a small number of
really nice ones?  I have reasons to like the latter, but I'm ready to
be swayed.

If you're wondering, the Intel Atom C3850 is what has me reconsidering on item 
3. You can get 12 cores in a sub $1,000 box.

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Re: [AFMUG] Server Hardware

2018-11-26 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
You can purchase a 24 core xeon box for 250-300 ish on ebay.  RAM is king 
though.  

With products like Proxmox, its hard to identify what one is better.  I would 
state that as long as you have data backups then get smaller boxes with huge 
CPU and RAM, where your data comes from don't matter as long as it has 
redundancy.  


Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer 
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com 


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On 11/26/2018 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> It's been a few years since I last went on this journey.
>
> (1) Will I get better prices on Dell from a VAR than I see on the Dell 
> website?
>
> (2) I've heard Supermicro touted as a value brand, but when I spec 
> similar Supermicro and Dell systems Dell comes out cheaper.  Am I 
> missing something?
>
> (3) Do you prefer a whole lot of cheap systems, or a small number of 
> really nice ones?  I have reasons to like the latter, but I'm ready to 
> be swayed.

If you're wondering, the Intel Atom C3850 is what has me reconsidering on item 
3. You can get 12 cores in a sub $1,000 box.

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Re: [AFMUG] Server Hardware

2018-11-26 Thread Adam Moffett



On 11/26/2018 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

It's been a few years since I last went on this journey.

(1) Will I get better prices on Dell from a VAR than I see on the Dell 
website?


(2) I've heard Supermicro touted as a value brand, but when I spec 
similar Supermicro and Dell systems Dell comes out cheaper.  Am I 
missing something?


(3) Do you prefer a whole lot of cheap systems, or a small number of 
really nice ones?  I have reasons to like the latter, but I'm ready to 
be swayed.


If you're wondering, the Intel Atom C3850 is what has me reconsidering 
on item 3. You can get 12 cores in a sub $1,000 box.


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[AFMUG] Server Hardware

2018-11-26 Thread Adam Moffett

It's been a few years since I last went on this journey.

(1) Will I get better prices on Dell from a VAR than I see on the Dell 
website?


(2) I've heard Supermicro touted as a value brand, but when I spec 
similar Supermicro and Dell systems Dell comes out cheaper.  Am I 
missing something?


(3) Do you prefer a whole lot of cheap systems, or a small number of 
really nice ones?  I have reasons to like the latter, but I'm ready to 
be swayed.


-Adam


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