Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Finally had time to listen today. It was an interesting take. I’m going to look into the Arista switches. Honestly, I’m just looking for switch redundancy and if MLAG gives me that, then I’m fine. Thanks, Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet From: AF on behalf of Mike Hammett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network We talk about it on the podcast. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability. I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 stuff with VLAN. Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual. From: AF On Behalf Of Clint Wiley Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ ports. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ____________ From: "Clint Wiley" mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Nobody has time for that! From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network We talk about it on the podcast. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability. I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 stuff with VLAN. Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Clint Wiley Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ ports. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________ From: "Clint Wiley" mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
We talk about it on the podcast. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability. I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 stuff with VLAN. Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual. From: AF On Behalf Of Clint Wiley Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ ports. From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png The Brothers WISP http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png From: "Clint Wiley" < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability. I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 stuff with VLAN. Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual. From: AF On Behalf Of Clint Wiley Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ ports. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Clint Wiley" mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ ports. From: AF on behalf of Mike Hammett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Clint Wiley" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Stacked switches are generally not recommended. http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Clint Wiley" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Heard good stuff from it, HW is limited From: AF on behalf of Mark Frost Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 8:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Has anyone evaluated OcNOS from IP Infusion? https://www.ipinfusion.com/products/ocnos/ Its seems to be the only whitebox OS that isn’t solely focused on the Data Centre Market (it has MPLS support). From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2019 09:21 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network i have watched this space for a while but I have not found the proper OS to support the features we need Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [Image removed by sender. aeronet-logo]<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [Image removed by sender. inc500]<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [Image removed by sender. fb-logo]<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> [Image removed by sender. insta-logo]<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> [Image removed by sender. in-logo]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [Image removed by sender. tw-logo]<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> [Image removed by sender. yt-logo]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:35 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network On this topic, has anybody used Open Connect architecture switches? I have a guy pitching the idea at me. He claims most switches are actually manufactured by the same couple of OEM's in Taiwan. The idea is you buy the bare metal and then license a Linux software to run on the hardware. The actual switching happens in ASIC's so the software is just for config and management, and there are several options to pick from. Part of the pitch is single pane of glass management. -Adam On 5/14/2019 3:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You could have gotten your Cisco switches for 1/2 off from Huawei. bp On 5/14/2019 11:50 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Has anyone evaluated OcNOS from IP Infusion? https://www.ipinfusion.com/products/ocnos/ Its seems to be the only whitebox OS that isn’t solely focused on the Data Centre Market (it has MPLS support). From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2019 09:21 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network i have watched this space for a while but I have not found the proper OS to support the features we need Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [Image removed by sender. aeronet-logo]<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [Image removed by sender. inc500]<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [Image removed by sender. fb-logo]<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> [Image removed by sender. insta-logo]<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> [Image removed by sender. in-logo]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [Image removed by sender. tw-logo]<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> [Image removed by sender. yt-logo]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:35 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network On this topic, has anybody used Open Connect architecture switches? I have a guy pitching the idea at me. He claims most switches are actually manufactured by the same couple of OEM's in Taiwan. The idea is you buy the bare metal and then license a Linux software to run on the hardware. The actual switching happens in ASIC's so the software is just for config and management, and there are several options to pick from. Part of the pitch is single pane of glass management. -Adam On 5/14/2019 3:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You could have gotten your Cisco switches for 1/2 off from Huawei. bp On 5/14/2019 11:50 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
i have watched this space for a while but I have not found the proper OS to support the features we need Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png]<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png] <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [https://image.ibb.co/e4pBB9/fb-logo.png] <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> [https://image.ibb.co/nxuuW9/insta-logo.png] <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> [https://image.ibb.co/jhSEW9/in-logo.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [https://image.ibb.co/dqqq4U/tw-logo.png] <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> [https://image.ibb.co/bAJcjU/yt-logo.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:35 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network On this topic, has anybody used Open Connect architecture switches? I have a guy pitching the idea at me. He claims most switches are actually manufactured by the same couple of OEM's in Taiwan. The idea is you buy the bare metal and then license a Linux software to run on the hardware. The actual switching happens in ASIC's so the software is just for config and management, and there are several options to pick from. Part of the pitch is single pane of glass management. -Adam On 5/14/2019 3:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You could have gotten your Cisco switches for 1/2 off from Huawei. bp On 5/14/2019 11:50 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
On this topic, has anybody used Open Connect architecture switches? I have a guy pitching the idea at me. He claims most switches are actually manufactured by the same couple of OEM's in Taiwan. The idea is you buy the bare metal and then license a Linux software to run on the hardware. The actual switching happens in ASIC's so the software is just for config and management, and there are several options to pick from. Part of the pitch is single pane of glass management. -Adam On 5/14/2019 3:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You could have gotten your Cisco switches for 1/2 off from Huawei. bp On 5/14/2019 11:50 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
You could have gotten your Cisco switches for 1/2 off from Huawei. bp On 5/14/2019 11:50 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
I sold or trashed most of the planet stuff I had. It wasn’t working at all for me in 48 port versions. From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Planet On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:42 PM Clint Wiley mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> wrote: Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
I started with some Dell 24 port SFP stacks and DC power supplies. They are stacked, managed as one entity with 24 ports each 1U and 2 ports SFP+ in the back for uplink and more bandwidth if necessary. They use a 1U DC power unit for up to 4 switches and also power via AC plug for redundancy. They have the stacking modules in the back to connect the switches fully together in a ring format so the stack stays alive and talking to each other at 10Gbps if any one switch dies. I use the SFP+ in the back on two of the switches for redundant uplink. I’ve got a lot just sitting around if you want to email me I could get them to you for pretty cheap plus shipping. Cisco has some 48 port SFP+ switches with 40Gbps stack/uplink available on eBay for around $400 each I think if you want to stick with Cisco. Not sure on power consumption, but generally uses more watts for SFP+ switch which might be a problem or overkill to get you started. I use FiberStore 48 port SFP switches with 4 SFP+ ports for uplink/link as my upgraded solution to the Dells. They don’t stack though, so that’s kind of a PITA for management. I also use Dell/Force10 SFP+ 48 port switches when I need that much connectivity, but those are old and take a lot of power and still cost like $1k each. Had I started now I probably would have just purchased the Cisco switches available instead of F10, but I don’t think they were available back when I started purchasing those. From: AF On Behalf Of Clint Wiley Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Planet On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:42 PM Clint Wiley wrote: > Hi, > > > > What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH > network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to > replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Clint > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Hi, What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. Thanks, Clint -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
