Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
That is correct. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Im putting out my last canopy sync, on what should be my last 2000 ap. But > i need spares and as much as its dumb, as we cycle the 2000s to 3000s, > thpse will likely be redeployed. We have to put in our order. So to be > clear, i can NOT use the cambium sync on a 2000, which uses canopy sync. Is > this correct? > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < >> li...@packetflux.com> wrote: >> > >> > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Ooops, typo apparently... meant to read + or - not + or +. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 6:20 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > > > > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
We can also get them in any color we want, as long as its black On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > > > > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Im putting out my last canopy sync, on what should be my last 2000 ap. But i need spares and as much as its dumb, as we cycle the 2000s to 3000s, thpse will likely be redeployed. We have to put in our order. So to be clear, i can NOT use the cambium sync on a 2000, which uses canopy sync. Is this correct? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > > > > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
This is our current card recommendations: For those radios which need Cambium Sync, (48V CMM5 style), you must have the Cambium sync cards. This is fine for 450i, 450m, epmp3000 and PTP550. I don't think I missed any others. This card does *not* have jumpers because of some of the side effects of how we do Cambium Sync here, so it's mostly limited to the Cambium sync radios. This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. For radios which need canopy/CMM3/CMM4 sync (optionally the 450i, and then any earlier radios (epmp 2000 and below, 100 series, etc)), then you need the Canopy sync card. This card can be used for other radios as long as they are ok with positive power. IT needs positive voltage suitable for the radio you're powering, usually +24V or +48V. Everything else can use the Polarity agnostic card. It supports positive or negative voltages and can be jumpered for pretty much any gigabit friendly PoE scheme. I usually tell people that unless they have a need for the Canopy Sync card, to use the Cambium Sync board for their newer cambium radios, and the polarity agnostic card for everything else.The radios which need Canopy sync should be getting fewer in your network not more. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC > Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to > epmp 3k? > it will also do 450i? > Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Why would you need Canopy sync for 1000 and 2000? Just be sure to set the software settings appropriately. Or use the built in GPS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Im hoping to find out we can just stock these and not have to have the > canopy sync ones for the 1k/2k > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:25 PM Matt wrote: > >> Gigabit Ethernet is much more stable with Cambium Sync. >> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >> > >> > “Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium >> sync” also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known >> to a select few. It doesn’t create inductive spikes that can cause >> Ethernet errors in adjacent cables so I’d use it instead of Canopy sync >> wherever you can. >> > >> > >> > >> > If I remember right, any 450 series APs with 48V gigabit power can >> accept Cambium sync. So that means 450i and 450m. I believe 450i can also >> use Canopy sync but 450m requires Cambium sync. Or instead of either >> power-over-sync method you can use AUX port sync. >> > >> > >> > >> > Someone else will have to reply about ePMP and specifically ePMP 3000. >> I thought ePMP used pucks? >> > >> > >> > >> > From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:33 PM >> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync >> > >> > >> > >> > Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. >> > >> > >> > >> > 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. >> > >> > >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones >> wrote: >> > >> > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC >> > >> > Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to >> epmp 3k? >> > >> > it will also do 450i? >> > >> > Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Im hoping to find out we can just stock these and not have to have the canopy sync ones for the 1k/2k On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:25 PM Matt wrote: > Gigabit Ethernet is much more stable with Cambium Sync. > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > “Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium > sync” also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known > to a select few. It doesn’t create inductive spikes that can cause > Ethernet errors in adjacent cables so I’d use it instead of Canopy sync > wherever you can. > > > > > > > > If I remember right, any 450 series APs with 48V gigabit power can > accept Cambium sync. So that means 450i and 450m. I believe 450i can also > use Canopy sync but 450m requires Cambium sync. Or instead of either > power-over-sync method you can use AUX port sync. > > > > > > > > Someone else will have to reply about ePMP and specifically ePMP 3000. > I thought ePMP used pucks? > > > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:33 PM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync > > > > > > > > Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. > > > > > > > > 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > > > > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC > > > > Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to > epmp 3k? > > > > it will also do 450i? > > > > Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Gigabit Ethernet is much more stable with Cambium Sync. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > “Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium sync” > also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known to a > select few. It doesn’t create inductive spikes that can cause Ethernet > errors in adjacent cables so I’d use it instead of Canopy sync wherever you > can. > > > > If I remember right, any 450 series APs with 48V gigabit power can accept > Cambium sync. So that means 450i and 450m. I believe 450i can also use > Canopy sync but 450m requires Cambium sync. Or instead of either > power-over-sync method you can use AUX port sync. > > > > Someone else will have to reply about ePMP and specifically ePMP 3000. I > thought ePMP used pucks? > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:33 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync > > > > Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. > > > > 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: > > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC > > Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to epmp > 3k? > > it will also do 450i? > > Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
“Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium sync” also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known to a select few. It doesn’t create inductive spikes that can cause Ethernet errors in adjacent cables so I’d use it instead of Canopy sync wherever you can. If I remember right, any 450 series APs with 48V gigabit power can accept Cambium sync. So that means 450i and 450m. I believe 450i can also use Canopy sync but 450m requires Cambium sync. Or instead of either power-over-sync method you can use AUX port sync. Someone else will have to reply about ePMP and specifically ePMP 3000. I thought ePMP used pucks? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to epmp 3k? it will also do 450i? Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC > Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to > epmp 3k? > it will also do 450i? > Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync
POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to epmp 3k? it will also do 450i? Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
