Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
Easements can be temporary (e.g. dissolve when ownership
  changes), or they can "run with the land". if they run with the
  land, they are essentially permanent. There are probably other
  arrangements, but I'm not familiar with them.


bp

On 1/25/2021 4:32 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  An easement is forever (i think). A land lease is
not. Find out what the narrowest trackhoe, bucket truck width is
and lease them a path 10 inches less wide. Look at the dick
moves even little guys like us with easements talk about doing
to landowners. Get paid.
  
  
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 3:36 PM
  Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:


  

  
You can make any restrictions in the easement that
  you want.  Of course they don’t have to sign.  

  
 

  From: Dev
  
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:01 PM
  To: AnimalFarm
  Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how much is an
    easement worth?

  
   

I
  was actually thinking about their ability to sub-lease
  with a 4” conduit, which makes me nervous.
   
  Asking for space on some of their towers might be
a good idea. I still think having a rental vs. them
owning it would be better, though I still don’t know
what to charge for rent.  We’re in an economically
depressed area, so probably lower than Manhattan,
but they can’t really claim they’re a poor
struggling giant company :)

  
On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Bill Prince
  <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
 

  It probably depends on more
factors than we might be able to assess from
our vantage point. Around here, property
values are what most people would consider
"over the top", so translating that to
somewhere else would be problematic. There
would also be the issue of who and/or how
many subscribers they might be able to
access given the availability of the
easement. Another issue would be what kind
of competition would you ge giving them.

   
   
  
 

  

  
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On Mon,
  Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com>
  wrote:

Cell
  company wants one across 700 feet of our
  property to a tower they can’t otherwise
  access to convert to fiber backhaul. I
  suggested drilling some conduit for them.
  They said they wanted 4” conduit. They
  want a quote to buy the easement, I would
  prefer to rent conduit/access, what are
  reasonable prices for either/both (or
  other things I should be aware of)?
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Steve Jones
An easement is forever (i think). A land lease is not. Find out what the
narrowest trackhoe, bucket truck width is and lease them a path 10 inches
less wide. Look at the dick moves even little guys like us with easements
talk about doing to landowners. Get paid.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 3:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> You can make any restrictions in the easement that you want.  Of course
> they don’t have to sign.
>
> *From:* Dev
> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2021 2:01 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?
>
> I was actually thinking about their ability to sub-lease with a 4”
> conduit, which makes me nervous.
>
> Asking for space on some of their towers might be a good idea. I still
> think having a rental vs. them owning it would be better, though I still
> don’t know what to charge for rent.  We’re in an economically depressed
> area, so probably lower than Manhattan, but they can’t really claim they’re
> a poor struggling giant company :)
>
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> It probably depends on more factors than we might be able to assess from
> our vantage point. Around here, property values are what most people would
> consider "over the top", so translating that to somewhere else would be
> problematic. There would also be the issue of who and/or how many
> subscribers they might be able to access given the availability of the
> easement. Another issue would be what kind of competition would you ge
> giving them.
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM Dev  wrote:
>
>> Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they
>> can’t otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling
>> some conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote
>> to buy the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are
>> reasonable prices for either/both (or other things I should be aware of)?
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
You can make any restrictions in the easement that you want.  Of course they 
don’t have to sign.  

From: Dev 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

I was actually thinking about their ability to sub-lease with a 4” conduit, 
which makes me nervous. 

Asking for space on some of their towers might be a good idea. I still think 
having a rental vs. them owning it would be better, though I still don’t know 
what to charge for rent.  We’re in an economically depressed area, so probably 
lower than Manhattan, but they can’t really claim they’re a poor struggling 
giant company :)



  On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  It probably depends on more factors than we might be able to assess from our 
vantage point. Around here, property values are what most people would consider 
"over the top", so translating that to somewhere else would be problematic. 
There would also be the issue of who and/or how many subscribers they might be 
able to access given the availability of the easement. Another issue would be 
what kind of competition would you ge giving them. 



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  On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM Dev  wrote:

Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they 
can’t otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling some 
conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote to buy 
the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are reasonable prices 
for either/both (or other things I should be aware of)?
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Dev
I was actually thinking about their ability to sub-lease with a 4” conduit, 
which makes me nervous.

Asking for space on some of their towers might be a good idea. I still think 
having a rental vs. them owning it would be better, though I still don’t know 
what to charge for rent.  We’re in an economically depressed area, so probably 
lower than Manhattan, but they can’t really claim they’re a poor struggling 
giant company :)

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> It probably depends on more factors than we might be able to assess from our 
> vantage point. Around here, property values are what most people would 
> consider "over the top", so translating that to somewhere else would be 
> problematic. There would also be the issue of who and/or how many subscribers 
> they might be able to access given the availability of the easement. Another 
> issue would be what kind of competition would you ge giving them.
> 
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM Dev  > wrote:
> Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they can’t 
> otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling some 
> conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote to buy 
> the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are reasonable 
> prices for either/both (or other things I should be aware of)?
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

Or get a spot on their tower.

-Original Message- 
From: Chuck McCown via AF

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 12:15 PM
To: AF@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

You will probably not get pushback at $10/foot.

I would ask them for DIA or dark fiber if that would be of value at that
location.
Get strands or empty duct or trade strands or duct somewhere else.

-Original Message- 
From: Dev

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:28 AM
To: AF@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they can’t
otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling some
conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote to buy
the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are reasonable
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

You will probably not get pushback at $10/foot.

I would ask them for DIA or dark fiber if that would be of value at that 
location.

Get strands or empty duct or trade strands or duct somewhere else.

-Original Message- 
From: Dev

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:28 AM
To: AF@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they can’t 
otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling some 
conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote to buy 
the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are reasonable 
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Re: [AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Bill Prince
It probably depends on more factors than we might be able to assess from
our vantage point. Around here, property values are what most people would
consider "over the top", so translating that to somewhere else would be
problematic. There would also be the issue of who and/or how many
subscribers they might be able to access given the availability of the
easement. Another issue would be what kind of competition would you ge
giving them.



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On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM Dev  wrote:

> Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they
> can’t otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling
> some conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote
> to buy the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are
> reasonable prices for either/both (or other things I should be aware of)?
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[AFMUG] how much is an easement worth?

2021-01-25 Thread Dev
Cell company wants one across 700 feet of our property to a tower they can’t 
otherwise access to convert to fiber backhaul. I suggested drilling some 
conduit for them. They said they wanted 4” conduit. They want a quote to buy 
the easement, I would prefer to rent conduit/access, what are reasonable prices 
for either/both (or other things I should be aware of)?
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