Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Matt Hoppes]

I'd rather have huge terminals though =\   so much easier to just deal 
with bare wire that gets screwed in.


On 4/5/21 10:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I'm sometimes guilty of harping on a small detail that bothers me.  I 
think you're doing the same right now.  None of this is objectively a 
big deal.


I have done something similar to Gino on the LTE deployments where 
Telrad used a 4-wire connector.  I.E.: Use a surge suppressor or other 
connection point to transition from 4 wires to 2 wires.  You do have to 
up-size the two wires appropriately.


I can't speak for Cambium as to why they chose a 4-wire connectorbut 
use a DC wire size calculator and consider the more extreme cases with a 
tower deployment.  4-wire lets you reduce the wire size two steps 
compared to 2-wire. So 10ga becomes 14ga, etc.  I'd guess they were 
trying to avoid putting huge terminals on the radio head.


-Adam



On 4/5/2021 9:53 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

The issue with 4 wire:

1) It's stupid -- whatever I can do with 4 wire I should be able to do 
with 2 wire.


2) The connectors are extremely small, to the point they are hard to 
work with and more things to break.


3) It's not standard red/black, so more chance for someone to wire 
something up wrong


4) More connectors to go bad.  And small wire on each of them. More 
things to break down the road.


On 4/2/21 5:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

What's the issue with 4 wires?


On 4/2/2021 4:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's 
got some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do 
away with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or 
something is the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 
450M?  Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode 
SFP and does it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my 
first one and I want to make sure I have everything in-place.










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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Adam Moffett]

I'm sometimes guilty of harping on a small detail that bothers me.  I 
think you're doing the same right now.  None of this is objectively a 
big deal.


I have done something similar to Gino on the LTE deployments where 
Telrad used a 4-wire connector.  I.E.: Use a surge suppressor or other 
connection point to transition from 4 wires to 2 wires.  You do have to 
up-size the two wires appropriately.


I can't speak for Cambium as to why they chose a 4-wire connectorbut 
use a DC wire size calculator and consider the more extreme cases with a 
tower deployment.  4-wire lets you reduce the wire size two steps 
compared to 2-wire. So 10ga becomes 14ga, etc.  I'd guess they were 
trying to avoid putting huge terminals on the radio head.


-Adam



On 4/5/2021 9:53 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

The issue with 4 wire:

1) It's stupid -- whatever I can do with 4 wire I should be able to do 
with 2 wire.


2) The connectors are extremely small, to the point they are hard to 
work with and more things to break.


3) It's not standard red/black, so more chance for someone to wire 
something up wrong


4) More connectors to go bad.  And small wire on each of them. More 
things to break down the road.


On 4/2/21 5:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

What's the issue with 4 wires?


On 4/2/2021 4:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's 
got some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do 
away with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or 
something is the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 
450M?  Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode 
SFP and does it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my 
first one and I want to make sure I have everything in-place.








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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Josh Baird]

Are you just looking at the picture or something?  It's 4C.  Check the
specs.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> That only appears to have 3 cables in it?
>
> On 4/2/21 6:24 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
> > Power really isn't a pain in the ass.  Just use this (which is what Josh
> > L. linked):
> >
> >
> https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
> >
> > You don't need to buy special glands either.  Just buy the package of
> > glands that Cambium sells.  They work fine.
> >
> > Fiberstore generic SFPs work fine.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
> >
> > Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> > pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
> >
> > Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's
> got
> > some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
> > with the 4 wire.
> >
> > You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or
> > something is
> > the part number).
> >
> > On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> >  > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz
> > 450M?
> >  > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP
> > and does
> >  > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and
> > I want
> >  > to make sure I have everything in-place.
> >  >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Matt Hoppes]

That only appears to have 3 cables in it?

On 4/2/21 6:24 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
Power really isn't a pain in the ass.  Just use this (which is what Josh 
L. linked):


https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc

You don't need to buy special glands either.  Just buy the package of 
glands that Cambium sells.  They work fine.


Fiberstore generic SFPs work fine.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or
something is
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
 > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz
450M?
 > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP
and does
 > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and
I want
 > to make sure I have everything in-place.
 >

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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Matt Hoppes]

The issue with 4 wire:

1) It's stupid -- whatever I can do with 4 wire I should be able to do 
with 2 wire.


2) The connectors are extremely small, to the point they are hard to 
work with and more things to break.


3) It's not standard red/black, so more chance for someone to wire 
something up wrong


4) More connectors to go bad.  And small wire on each of them.   More 
things to break down the road.


On 4/2/21 5:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

What's the issue with 4 wires?


On 4/2/2021 4:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's 
got some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do 
away with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something 
is the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 
450M?  Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode 
SFP and does it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first 
one and I want to make sure I have everything in-place.








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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Matt Hoppes]

Tell me more about this jumper please.  By far the worst part of these 
radios is the power wire.


On 4/3/21 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is 
this setup with individual runs per AP:


FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856

Direct Burial 14/2 Wire 
https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784


Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110

Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own

The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a 
4 wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field 
replace.


We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the 
cost


Cost Matrix:



100'



200'



300'

FS Armored Fiber



$   39.00



  $   64.00



  $   89.00

14/2 Power Cable



$   33.00



  $   66.00



  $   99.00

Transector SS



$ 150.00



  $ 150.00



  $ 150.00

Custom DC Jumper



$   20.00



  $   20.00



  $   20.00



$ 242.00



  $ 280.00



  $ 338.00







2 Sector



$ 484.00



  $ 560.00



  $ 676.00

3 Sector



$ 726.00



  $ 840.00



  $  1,014.00

4 Sector



$ 968.00



  $  1,120.00



  $  1,352.00

*GinoVillarini
*Founder/President
@gvillarini
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*From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman 


*Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc 
18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber 
preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ 
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored 
patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long 
N00L140A SFP glands]


We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or
something is
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
 > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz
450M?
 > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP
and does
 > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and
I want
 > to make sure I have everything in-place.
 >

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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Jan-GAMs]

Has anyone made a video of doing a fiber install to a home?

On 4/3/21 7:22 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:


We did essentially the same thing on an LTE deployment.  I wasn't 
focused on the cost so much, but I reasoned that getting a tower 
climber to replace a pre-terminated cable would be easier than getting 
a tower climber to do splicing or terminations up there.


I think my next plan is a Commscope OFDC closure on the tower presetup 
with SC connectors, a single 12F drop cable, and armored jumpers to 
the radio heads.  Hopefully a climber only ever has to add/change a 
short jumper.  I'd still run separate power cables.


On 4/3/2021 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:


We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found 
is this setup with individual runs per AP:


FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856 
<https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856>


Direct Burial 14/2 Wire 
https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784 
<https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784>


Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110 
<https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110>


Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own

The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to 
a 4 wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or 
field replace.


We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x 
the cost


Cost Matrix:



100'



200'



300'

FS Armored Fiber



$   39.00



 $ 64.00



 $ 89.00

14/2 Power Cable



$   33.00



 $ 66.00



 $ 99.00

Transector SS



$ 150.00



 $ 150.00



 $ 150.00

Custom DC Jumper



$   20.00



 $ 20.00



 $ 20.00



$ 242.00



 $ 280.00



 $ 338.00







2 Sector



$ 484.00



 $ 560.00



 $ 676.00

3 Sector



$ 726.00



 $ 840.00



 $  1,014.00

4 Sector



$ 968.00



 $  1,120.00



 $  1,352.00

*GinoVillarini
*Founder/President
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*From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman 


*Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc 
<https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc> 
18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber 
<https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber> 
preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI> 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/> 
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html 
<https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html> Armored UV resistant 1m 
armored patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long 
<https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long> 
N00L140A SFP glands]


We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI. Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI...
he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but serious

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Josh Baird]

I think it's all the way through, but I'll have to check once I get back to
the shop.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:31 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> On those FS armored jumpers, do they run the stainless spiral all the way
> through the cable, or is it only where the fiber is outside the jacket?
> On 4/3/2021 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is
> this setup with individual runs per AP:
>
>
>
> FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856
>
> Direct Burial 14/2 Wire
> https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784
>
> Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110
>
> Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own
>
>
>
> The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a 4
> wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field
> replace.
>
>
>
> We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the
> cost
>
>
>
> Cost Matrix:
>
>
>
>
>
> 100'
>
> 200'
>
> 300'
>
> FS Armored Fiber
>
> $   39.00
>
>  $   64.00
>
>  $   89.00
>
> 14/2 Power Cable
>
> $   33.00
>
>  $   66.00
>
>  $   99.00
>
> Transector SS
>
> $ 150.00
>
>  $ 150.00
>
>  $ 150.00
>
> Custom DC Jumper
>
> $   20.00
>
>  $   20.00
>
>  $   20.00
>
>
>
> $ 242.00
>
>  $ 280.00
>
>  $ 338.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2 Sector
>
> $ 484.00
>
>  $ 560.00
>
>  $ 676.00
>
> 3 Sector
>
> $ 726.00
>
>  $ 840.00
>
>  $  1,014.00
>
> 4 Sector
>
> $ 968.00
>
>  $  1,120.00
>
>  $  1,352.00
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino*
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> *From: *AF   on behalf
> of Josh Luthman 
> 
> *Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling
>
> *[
> https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
> 18awg4c cable]
> *[
> https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber
> preterminated fiber]
> *[
> https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI
> Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
> *[
> https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/
> Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
> *[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored
> patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
> *[
> https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long
> N00L140A SFP glands]
>
>
>
> We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>
> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>
> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
> with the 4 wire.
>
> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
> the part number).
>
> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
> > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does
> > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
> > to make sure I have everything in-place.
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Adam Moffett]

On those FS armored jumpers, do they run the stainless spiral all the 
way through the cable, or is it only where the fiber is outside the jacket?


On 4/3/2021 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:


We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found 
is this setup with individual runs per AP:


FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856 
<https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856>


Direct Burial 14/2 Wire 
https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784 
<https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784>


Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110 
<https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110>


Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own

The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to 
a 4 wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or 
field replace.


We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x 
the cost


Cost Matrix:



100'



200'



300'

FS Armored Fiber



$   39.00



 $   64.00



 $   89.00

14/2 Power Cable



$   33.00



 $   66.00



 $   99.00

Transector SS



$ 150.00



 $ 150.00



 $ 150.00

Custom DC Jumper



$   20.00



 $   20.00



 $   20.00



$ 242.00



 $ 280.00



 $ 338.00







2 Sector



$ 484.00



 $ 560.00



 $ 676.00

3 Sector



$ 726.00



 $ 840.00



 $  1,014.00

4 Sector



$ 968.00



 $  1,120.00



 $  1,352.00

*GinoVillarini
*Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
aeronet-logo <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> 	inc500 
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<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> 
	yt-logo <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> 	


www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 
Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968


*From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman 


*Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc 
<https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc> 
18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber 
<https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber> 
preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI> 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/> 
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html 
<https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html> Armored UV resistant 1m 
armored patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long 
<https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long> 
N00L140A SFP glands]


We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI...
he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or
something is
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz
450M?
> Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP
and does
> it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Jason McKemie]

I just figured the patch cables were being used with a breakout box. I
guess they do stock them up to 50m length.

On Saturday, April 3, 2021, Josh Baird  wrote:

> I don't think he uses a break-out box.  He has individual runs from the
> bottom to each radio.
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> What are you using for a fiber breakout box at the top?
>>
>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>>
>>> We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is
>>> this setup with individual runs per AP:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856
>>>
>>> Direct Burial 14/2 Wire https://www.parts-express.com/
>>> JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784
>>>
>>> Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110
>>>
>>> Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a
>>> 4 wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field
>>> replace.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the
>>> cost
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cost Matrix:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 100'
>>>
>>> 200'
>>>
>>> 300'
>>>
>>> FS Armored Fiber
>>>
>>> $   39.00
>>>
>>>  $   64.00
>>>
>>>  $   89.00
>>>
>>> 14/2 Power Cable
>>>
>>> $   33.00
>>>
>>>  $   66.00
>>>
>>>  $   99.00
>>>
>>> Transector SS
>>>
>>> $ 150.00
>>>
>>>  $ 150.00
>>>
>>>  $ 150.00
>>>
>>> Custom DC Jumper
>>>
>>> $   20.00
>>>
>>>  $   20.00
>>>
>>>  $   20.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> $ 242.00
>>>
>>>  $ 280.00
>>>
>>>  $ 338.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 Sector
>>>
>>> $ 484.00
>>>
>>>  $ 560.00
>>>
>>>  $ 676.00
>>>
>>> 3 Sector
>>>
>>> $ 726.00
>>>
>>>  $ 840.00
>>>
>>>  $  1,014.00
>>>
>>> 4 Sector
>>>
>>> $ 968.00
>>>
>>>  $  1,120.00
>>>
>>>  $  1,352.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino*
>>> *Villarini *Founder/President
>>> @gvillarini
>>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>>> [image: aeronet-logo] <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [image: inc500]
>>> <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [image: fb-logo]
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/>  [image: insta-logo]
>>> <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en>  [image: in-logo]
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp>  [image:
>>> tw-logo]
>>> <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
>>>   [image: yt-logo]
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>>>
>>> *From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
>>> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling
>>>
>>> *[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?
>>> fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
>>> 18awg4c cable]
>>> *[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-
>>> Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber preterminated fiber]
>>> *[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-
>>> Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
>>> *[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-
>>> Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
>>> *[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m
>>> ar

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Adam Moffett]

We did essentially the same thing on an LTE deployment.  I wasn't 
focused on the cost so much, but I reasoned that getting a tower climber 
to replace a pre-terminated cable would be easier than getting a tower 
climber to do splicing or terminations up there.


I think my next plan is a Commscope OFDC closure on the tower presetup 
with SC connectors, a single 12F drop cable, and armored jumpers to the 
radio heads.  Hopefully a climber only ever has to add/change a short 
jumper.  I'd still run separate power cables.


On 4/3/2021 6:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:


We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found 
is this setup with individual runs per AP:


FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856 
<https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856>


Direct Burial 14/2 Wire 
https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784 
<https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784>


Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110 
<https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110>


Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own

The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to 
a 4 wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or 
field replace.


We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x 
the cost


Cost Matrix:



100'



200'



300'

FS Armored Fiber



$   39.00



 $   64.00



 $   89.00

14/2 Power Cable



$   33.00



 $   66.00



 $   99.00

Transector SS



$ 150.00



 $ 150.00



 $ 150.00

Custom DC Jumper



$   20.00



 $   20.00



 $   20.00



$ 242.00



 $ 280.00



 $ 338.00







2 Sector



$ 484.00



 $ 560.00



 $ 676.00

3 Sector



$ 726.00



 $ 840.00



 $  1,014.00

4 Sector



$ 968.00



 $  1,120.00



 $  1,352.00

*GinoVillarini
*Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
aeronet-logo <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> 	inc500 
<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> 	fb-logo 
<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> 	insta-logo 
<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> 	in-logo 
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> 	tw-logo 
<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> 
	yt-logo <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> 	


www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 
Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968


*From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman 


*Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc 
<https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc> 
18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber 
<https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber> 
preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI> 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ 
<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/> 
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html 
<https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html> Armored UV resistant 1m 
armored patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long 
<https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long> 
N00L140A SFP glands]


We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI...
he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to 

Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Josh Baird]

I don't think he uses a break-out box.  He has individual runs from the
bottom to each radio.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> What are you using for a fiber breakout box at the top?
>
> On Saturday, April 3, 2021, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>
>> We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is
>> this setup with individual runs per AP:
>>
>>
>>
>> FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856
>>
>> Direct Burial 14/2 Wire
>> https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784
>>
>> Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110
>>
>> Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own
>>
>>
>>
>> The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a 4
>> wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field
>> replace.
>>
>>
>>
>> We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the
>> cost
>>
>>
>>
>> Cost Matrix:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 100'
>>
>> 200'
>>
>> 300'
>>
>> FS Armored Fiber
>>
>> $   39.00
>>
>>  $   64.00
>>
>>  $   89.00
>>
>> 14/2 Power Cable
>>
>> $   33.00
>>
>>  $   66.00
>>
>>  $   99.00
>>
>> Transector SS
>>
>> $ 150.00
>>
>>  $ 150.00
>>
>>  $ 150.00
>>
>> Custom DC Jumper
>>
>> $   20.00
>>
>>  $   20.00
>>
>>  $   20.00
>>
>>
>>
>> $ 242.00
>>
>>  $ 280.00
>>
>>  $ 338.00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 Sector
>>
>> $ 484.00
>>
>>  $ 560.00
>>
>>  $ 676.00
>>
>> 3 Sector
>>
>> $ 726.00
>>
>>  $ 840.00
>>
>>  $  1,014.00
>>
>> 4 Sector
>>
>> $ 968.00
>>
>>  $  1,120.00
>>
>>  $  1,352.00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino*
>> *Villarini *Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>> [image: aeronet-logo] <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [image: inc500]
>> <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [image: fb-logo]
>> <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/>  [image: insta-logo]
>> <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en>  [image: in-logo]
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp>  [image:
>> tw-logo]
>> <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
>>   [image: yt-logo]
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>
>> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>>
>> *From: *AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
>> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling
>>
>> *[
>> https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
>> 18awg4c cable]
>> *[
>> https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber
>> preterminated fiber]
>> *[
>> https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI
>> Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
>> *[
>> https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/
>> Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
>> *[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored
>> patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
>> *[
>> https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long
>> N00L140A SFP glands]
>>
>>
>>
>> We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0ASuite+1337+%0D%0ATroy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>>
>> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
>> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>>
>> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
>> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
>> with the 4 wire.
>>
>> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
>> the part number).
>>
>> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>> > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
>> > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and
>> does
>> > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
>> > to make sure I have everything in-place.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>> --
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Jason McKemie]

What are you using for a fiber breakout box at the top?

On Saturday, April 3, 2021, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is
> this setup with individual runs per AP:
>
>
>
> FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856
>
> Direct Burial 14/2 Wire https://www.parts-express.com/
> JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784
>
> Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110
>
> Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own
>
>
>
> The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a 4
> wire jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field
> replace.
>
>
>
> We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the
> cost
>
>
>
> Cost Matrix:
>
>
>
>
>
> 100'
>
> 200'
>
> 300'
>
> FS Armored Fiber
>
> $   39.00
>
>  $   64.00
>
>  $   89.00
>
> 14/2 Power Cable
>
> $   33.00
>
>  $   66.00
>
>  $   99.00
>
> Transector SS
>
> $ 150.00
>
>  $ 150.00
>
>  $ 150.00
>
> Custom DC Jumper
>
> $   20.00
>
>  $   20.00
>
>  $   20.00
>
>
>
> $ 242.00
>
>  $ 280.00
>
>  $ 338.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2 Sector
>
> $ 484.00
>
>  $ 560.00
>
>  $ 676.00
>
> 3 Sector
>
> $ 726.00
>
>  $ 840.00
>
>  $  1,014.00
>
> 4 Sector
>
> $ 968.00
>
>  $  1,120.00
>
>  $  1,352.00
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino*
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> *Date: *Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling
>
> *[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?
> fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
> 18awg4c cable]
> *[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-
> Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber preterminated fiber]
> *[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-
> Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
> *[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-
> Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
> *[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored
> patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
> *[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-
> rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long N00L140A SFP glands]
>
>
>
> We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>
> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>
> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
> with the 4 wire.
>
> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
> the part number).
>
> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
> > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does
> > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
> > to make sure I have everything in-place.
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Gino A. Villarini]

We have run the numbers and the most cost-efficient kit we have found is this 
setup with individual runs per AP:

FS FTTA Armored Fiber https://www.fs.com/c/ftta-patch-cables-3856
Direct Burial 14/2 Wire 
https://www.parts-express.com/JSC-Wire-1000-ft.-14-AWG-Direct-Burial-Speaker-Lighting-Wire-100-784
Transtector DC Surge SS https://www.winncom.com/en/products/1101-1110
Custom 4 wire to 4 pin molex Jumper (ISP Supplies) or make you own

The Transtector allows you to transition from the 2 wire main feed to a 4 wire 
jumper into the Medusa and it’s easier to troubleshoot or field replace.

We would love to have a nice hybrid solution but all of them are 2x the cost

Cost Matrix:



100'

200'

300'

FS Armored Fiber

$   39.00

 $   64.00

 $   89.00

14/2 Power Cable

$   33.00

 $   66.00

 $   99.00

Transector SS

$ 150.00

 $ 150.00

 $ 150.00

Custom DC Jumper

$   20.00

 $   20.00

 $   20.00



$ 242.00

 $ 280.00

 $ 338.00









2 Sector

$ 484.00

 $ 560.00

 $ 676.00

3 Sector

$ 726.00

 $ 840.00

 $  1,014.00

4 Sector

$ 968.00

 $  1,120.00

 $  1,352.00




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From: AF  on behalf of Josh Luthman 

Date: Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling
*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc<https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc>
 18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber<https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber>
 preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI>
 Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/<https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/>
 Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html<https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html>
 Armored UV resistant 1m armored patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long<https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long>
 N00L140A SFP glands]

We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
> Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does
> it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
> to make sure I have everything in-place.
>

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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Josh Baird]

Power really isn't a pain in the ass.  Just use this (which is what Josh L.
linked):

https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc

You don't need to buy special glands either.  Just buy the package of
glands that Cambium sells.  They work fine.

Fiberstore generic SFPs work fine.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>
> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>
> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
> with the 4 wire.
>
> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
> the part number).
>
> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
> > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does
> > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
> > to make sure I have everything in-place.
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Chuck McCown via AF]

And you can even use it as heliax!  (Wait, what is the date...)

From: dave 
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 3:26 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

Josh this should make your day

https://eupen.us/products/hybrid-fiber-cable-systems/

A rep stopped by to see our two-way rep and I got intrigued LOL!




On 4/2/21 4:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  
*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
 18awg4c cable]
  
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber
 preterminated fiber]
  
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
  
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/
 Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
  *[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored 
patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
  
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long
 N00L140A SFP glands]


  We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got 
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away 
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is 
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?  
> Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does 
> it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want 
> to make sure I have everything in-place.
> 

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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Jason McKemie]

Thanks for all of the information everyone.

Does Best-tronics make a cable with a gland included?

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:26 PM dave  wrote:

> we use 4-wire riser cable from the local wholesale company which is
> perfect for outdoor protection
> we use only best-tronics tactical pair fiber with or without glands.
> we use only FS SFP modules. Cisco compatible with high range temperature.
>
> Been installed for over 3 years no issues.
>
> The whole power thing we solved by using something similar to squid
> distribution box but only for hybrid cable.
> The first deployment was tough we used a 3 wire #8 riser cable into a
> 3'x4' nema enclosure using lugs. Which was
> not the best due to surge protection. I now have a new standard for design
> that basically incorporates the PacketFlux DC cards
> and EtherWan fiber switches. The only thing coming down the tower is a
> single armored fiber with the 3 wire#8 for Power.
> The new design cleans up the wire management for sure.
>
> Medusa are the big boy toys which need the big boy deployments.
>
>
> On 4/2/21 3:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>
> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>
> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away with
> the 4 wire.
>
> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
> the part number).
>
> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?  Is
> part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does it
> come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want to
> make sure I have everything in-place.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Adam Moffett]

What's the issue with 4 wires?


On 4/2/2021 4:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's 
got some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do 
away with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something 
is the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 
450M?  Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode 
SFP and does it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first 
one and I want to make sure I have everything in-place.






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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[dave]

Josh this should make your day

https://eupen.us/products/hybrid-fiber-cable-systems/

A rep stopped by to see our two-way rep and I got intrigued LOL!


On 4/2/21 4:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
*[https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc 
18awg4c cable]
*[https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber 
preterminated fiber]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI 
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/ 
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m 
armored patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long 
N00L140A SFP glands]


We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.

Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI...
he's got
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
with the 4 wire.

You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or
something is
the part number).

On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz
450M?
> Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP
and does
> it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and
I want
> to make sure I have everything in-place.
>

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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[dave]

we use 4-wire riser cable from the local wholesale company which is 
perfect for outdoor protection

we use only best-tronics tactical pair fiber with or without glands.
we use only FS SFP modules. Cisco compatible with high range temperature.

Been installed for over 3 years no issues.

The whole power thing we solved by using something similar to squid 
distribution box but only for hybrid cable.
The first deployment was tough we used a 3 wire #8 riser cable into a 
3'x4' nema enclosure using lugs. Which was
not the best due to surge protection. I now have a new standard for 
design that basically incorporates the PacketFlux DC cards
and EtherWan fiber switches. The only thing coming down the tower is a 
single armored fiber with the 3 wire#8 for Power.

The new design cleans up the wire management for sure.

Medusa are the big boy toys which need the big boy deployments.


On 4/2/21 3:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's 
got some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do 
away with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something 
is the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 
450M?  Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode 
SFP and does it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first 
one and I want to make sure I have everything in-place.






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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Josh Luthman]

*[
https://www.wireandcableyourway.com/18-4c-thhn-pvc-tray-cable.html?fbclid=IwAR3Uzvs2Ooe-7btY6nMI-yzr0nrbG_WIJb4RqyzgxgJjc3Ay-YNEK0NF0Oc
18awg4c cable]
*[
https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber
preterminated fiber]
*[
https://www.amazon.com/Molex-63811-1000-Service-Grade-Crimping/dp/B00OVF2AKI
Molex 63811-1000 crimper]
*[
https://www.amazon.com/Molex-11-03-0044-Connector-Accessories-Extraction/dp/B00GOIY1NE/
Molex 11-03-0044 extractor]
*[https://www.fs.com/products/97935.html Armored UV resistant 1m armored
patch cable dual duplex LC UPC]
*[
https://www.streakwave.com/cambium-n00l140a-silver-rj-45-gland-spare-pg16-long
N00L140A SFP glands]

We use FS bidi that we've got a shelf of already.
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.
>
> Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells
> pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.
>
> Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got
> some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away
> with the 4 wire.
>
> You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is
> the part number).
>
> On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> > What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?
> > Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does
> > it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want
> > to make sure I have everything in-place.
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 3GHz 450M Cabling

[Matt Hoppes]

We are using Ubiquiti SM Bi-Di SFPs... work great.

Fiber, I'm using fiber from Benton Cook at CTI.  Lanshack also sells 
pre-terminated outdoor micro armored.


Power -- is a pain in the backside.   Talk to Benton at CTI... he's got 
some cheaper Belden cable... but seriously, Cambium needs to do away 
with the 4 wire.


You will need to buy special glands for the fiber (PG-13 or something is 
the part number).


On 4/2/21 3:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
What are you guys using for fiber and power cabling to the 3GHz 450M?  
Is part C65L008A the correct number for the single mode SFP and does 
it come with the gland and licenses? Putting up my first one and I want 
to make sure I have everything in-place.




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