Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-28 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
Gomer Pyle at least made PFC.  And Gomer never chewed anyone's ass or told them 
they were stupid.  

From: dave via AF 
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I have soldiers with same attitude. Tried everything to put him on the right 
path. Sometimes  you cant fix stupid.
He stayed in for his 4 years and never got passed E3. Transferred to 3 diff 
units over the course.




On 4/22/21 5:49 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High performer.  
But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc.  Damaged a 
vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a write up.  Started having 
absentee issues.

  Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They guy 
said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when asked 
what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single thing”.  
Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said he was done, 
someone would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He started throwing 
around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was going to sue the 
company, sue the supervisor etc.  

  Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue.  I 
have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is black.  If I had to 
guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has some shade of brown.  I actually 
prefer that.  

  He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last 5 
jobs he worked.  

  Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee though.  I 
value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.  

   





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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
Hell, I was E3 the moment I signed on the line. 




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From: "dave via AF"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "dave"  
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:27:04 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today 

I have soldiers with same attitude. Tried everything to put him on the right 
path. Sometimes you cant fix stupid. 
He stayed in for his 4 years and never got passed E3. Transferred to 3 diff 
units over the course. 




On 4/22/21 5:49 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 





He had worked for about 3 months. Learned his job quickly. High performer. But 
he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc. Damaged a vehicle and 
acted like it was no big deal. Got a write up. Started having absentee issues. 

Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action. They guy said 
two things: “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when asked what 
things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single thing”. Copped 
an attitude for about the 5th time. So the supervisor said he was done, someone 
would give him a ride at the end of the shift. He started throwing around the 
his lawyer was going to contacting us. He was going to sue the company, sue the 
supervisor etc. 

Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue. I have 
no clue what race this guy is. Hair and beard is black. If I had to guess, he 
was Italian. Most of my crew has some shade of brown. I actually prefer that. 

He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last 5 jobs 
he worked. 

Dang, he could have been one of the good ones. Toxic employee though. I value 
the lack of drama more than almost anything else. 




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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-28 Thread dave via AF 
I have soldiers with same attitude. Tried everything to put him on the 
right path. Sometimes  you cant fix stupid.
He stayed in for his 4 years and never got passed E3. Transferred to 3 
diff units over the course.



On 4/22/21 5:49 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High 
performer.  But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass 
etc.  Damaged a vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a 
write up.  Started having absentee issues.
Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They 
guy said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and 
when asked what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think 
of a single thing”.  Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So 
the supervisor said he was done, someone would give him a ride at the 
end of the shift.  He started throwing around the his lawyer was going 
to contacting us.  He was going to sue the company, sue the supervisor 
etc.
Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial 
issue.  I have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is 
black.  If I had to guess, he was Italian. Most of my crew has some 
shade of brown.  I actually prefer that.
He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the 
last 5 jobs he worked.
Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee 
though.  I value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-23 Thread Steve Jones 
thats methed up

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 9:31 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yep
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 8:19 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> There seem to be a lot of colorful tower people.
>> On 4/22/2021 8:22 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> When I had my company and got a large tower erection contract, i hired
>> two new guys one of them had worked on towers 10 years and was very
>> knowledgeable.
>> Few first tower builds , nada, no problems. One of the crews is working
>> in Uvalde, Texas. Get a call from foreman...this guy in his 30s is trying
>> to pick up high school girls , the high school guys call him a pervert, he
>> gets angry and tries to fight several kids... foreman yanks him into the
>> vancalls me...i told Mario , take him to hotel, have him pack up, buy
>> him a bus ticket and give him $20.00 for food. Send me his hours and i will
>> have check ready for him.
>>  he goes all pissed off ...
>> Next day he goes by to pick up check...he is cussing at secretary...my
>> son happened to be there shipping some stuff to us and asks him to
>> leavehe tells my son that he is going to kick my ass when he sees
>> me...my son laughs at him...he comes toward my son...son kicked him in
>> shin, dropped him and threw him out.
>> The guy is outside yelling calling my son out...he went outguy walked
>> away talking shit.
>> Never saw him or heard about him again.
>>
>> He was making more money than he had ever made...great tower guy, lousy
>> attitude.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High
>>> performer.  But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc.
>>> Damaged a vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a write up.
>>> Started having absentee issues.
>>>
>>> Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They
>>> guy said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when
>>> asked what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single
>>> thing”.  Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said
>>> he was done, someone would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He
>>> started throwing around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was
>>> going to sue the company, sue the supervisor etc.
>>>
>>> Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue.
>>> I have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is black.  If I had
>>> to guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has some shade of brown.  I
>>> actually prefer that.
>>>
>>> He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last
>>> 5 jobs he worked.
>>>
>>> Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee though.
>>> I value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-22 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Yep

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 8:19 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> There seem to be a lot of colorful tower people.
> On 4/22/2021 8:22 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> When I had my company and got a large tower erection contract, i hired two
> new guys one of them had worked on towers 10 years and was very
> knowledgeable.
> Few first tower builds , nada, no problems. One of the crews is working in
> Uvalde, Texas. Get a call from foreman...this guy in his 30s is trying to
> pick up high school girls , the high school guys call him a pervert, he
> gets angry and tries to fight several kids... foreman yanks him into the
> vancalls me...i told Mario , take him to hotel, have him pack up, buy
> him a bus ticket and give him $20.00 for food. Send me his hours and i will
> have check ready for him.
>  he goes all pissed off ...
> Next day he goes by to pick up check...he is cussing at secretary...my son
> happened to be there shipping some stuff to us and asks him to leavehe
> tells my son that he is going to kick my ass when he sees me...my son
> laughs at him...he comes toward my son...son kicked him in shin, dropped
> him and threw him out.
> The guy is outside yelling calling my son out...he went outguy walked
> away talking shit.
> Never saw him or heard about him again.
>
> He was making more money than he had ever made...great tower guy, lousy
> attitude.
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High
>> performer.  But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc.
>> Damaged a vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a write up.
>> Started having absentee issues.
>>
>> Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They
>> guy said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when
>> asked what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single
>> thing”.  Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said
>> he was done, someone would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He
>> started throwing around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was
>> going to sue the company, sue the supervisor etc.
>>
>> Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue.
>> I have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is black.  If I had
>> to guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has some shade of brown.  I
>> actually prefer that.
>>
>> He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last 5
>> jobs he worked.
>>
>> Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee though.  I
>> value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-22 Thread Adam Moffett 

There seem to be a lot of colorful tower people.

On 4/22/2021 8:22 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
When I had my company and got a large tower erection contract, i hired 
two new guys one of them had worked on towers 10 years and was 
very knowledgeable.
Few first tower builds , nada, no problems. One of the crews is 
working in Uvalde, Texas. Get a call from foreman...this guy in his 
30s is trying to pick up high school girls , the high school guys call 
him a pervert, he gets angry and tries to fight several kids... 
foreman yanks him into the vancalls me...i told Mario , take him 
to hotel, have him pack up, buy him a bus ticket and give him $20.00 
for food. Send me his hours and i will have check ready for him.

 he goes all pissed off ...
Next day he goes by to pick up check...he is cussing at secretary...my 
son happened to be there shipping some stuff to us and asks him to 
leavehe tells my son that he is going to kick my ass when he sees 
me...my son laughs at him...he comes toward my son...son kicked him in 
shin, dropped him and threw him out.
The guy is outside yelling calling my son out...he went outguy 
walked away talking shit.

Never saw him or heard about him again.

He was making more money than he had ever made...great tower guy, 
lousy attitude.


On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote:


He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High
performer.  But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers
ass etc.  Damaged a vehicle and acted like it was no big deal. 
Got a write up. Started having absentee issues.
Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action. 
They guy said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total
idiot” and when asked what things he could do to improve:
“nothing, can’t think of a single thing”.  Copped an attitude for
about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said he was done, someone
would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He started
throwing around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was
going to sue the company, sue the supervisor etc.
Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial
issue.  I have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is
black.  If I had to guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has
some shade of brown.  I actually prefer that.
He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the
last 5 jobs he worked.
Dang, he could have been one of the good ones. Toxic employee
though.  I value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-22 Thread Jaime Solorza 
When I had my company and got a large tower erection contract, i hired two
new guys one of them had worked on towers 10 years and was very
knowledgeable.
Few first tower builds , nada, no problems. One of the crews is working in
Uvalde, Texas. Get a call from foreman...this guy in his 30s is trying to
pick up high school girls , the high school guys call him a pervert, he
gets angry and tries to fight several kids... foreman yanks him into the
vancalls me...i told Mario , take him to hotel, have him pack up, buy
him a bus ticket and give him $20.00 for food. Send me his hours and i will
have check ready for him.
 he goes all pissed off ...
Next day he goes by to pick up check...he is cussing at secretary...my son
happened to be there shipping some stuff to us and asks him to leavehe
tells my son that he is going to kick my ass when he sees me...my son
laughs at him...he comes toward my son...son kicked him in shin, dropped
him and threw him out.
The guy is outside yelling calling my son out...he went outguy walked
away talking shit.
Never saw him or heard about him again.

He was making more money than he had ever made...great tower guy, lousy
attitude.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High
> performer.  But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc.
> Damaged a vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a write up.
> Started having absentee issues.
>
> Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They guy
> said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when asked
> what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single
> thing”.  Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said
> he was done, someone would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He
> started throwing around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was
> going to sue the company, sue the supervisor etc.
>
> Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue.  I
> have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is black.  If I had to
> guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has some shade of brown.  I
> actually prefer that.
>
> He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last 5
> jobs he worked.
>
> Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee though.  I
> value the lack of drama more than almost anything else.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

2021-04-22 Thread Dev 
Good riddance probably, the longer a toxic employee stays the worst it gets 
usually, and it spreads to less toxic folks.

> On Apr 22, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
> 
> He had worked for about 3 months.  Learned his job quickly.  High performer.  
> But he started acting like a boss, chewing coworkers ass etc.  Damaged a 
> vehicle and acted like it was no big deal.  Got a write up.  Started having 
> absentee issues.
>  
> Today his supervisor tried to administer some corrective action.  They guy 
> said two things:  “every one of these guys is a total idiot” and when asked 
> what things he could do to improve: “nothing, can’t think of a single thing”. 
>  Copped an attitude for about the 5th time.  So the supervisor said he was 
> done, someone would give him a ride at the end of the shift.  He started 
> throwing around the his lawyer was going to contacting us.  He was going to 
> sue the company, sue the supervisor etc. 
>  
> Then he came back to the supervisor and told him it was a racial issue.  I 
> have no clue what race this guy is.  Hair and beard is black.  If I had to 
> guess, he was Italian.  Most of my crew has some shade of brown.  I actually 
> prefer that. 
>  
> He was one of those guys that worked an average of 9 months at the last 5 
> jobs he worked. 
>  
> Dang, he could have been one of the good ones.  Toxic employee though.  I 
> value the lack of drama more than almost anything else. 
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