Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
I do a lot of UniFi. Networks and cameras. I think you'll be fine with the G5 Pro and the Cloudkey. I usually prefer to use G4 cameras when they're outdoors, mostly due to the metal case, and my assumption that they'll be less susceptible to nearby lightning than the plastic cases on the G5s. But that may just be my paranoia talking and may have no basis in reality. The Cloudkey Plus does have a 1 TB 2.5" HDD and has more than enough horsepower to do a single 4K camera. I have seen a hard drive in one of these fail prematurely after about a year and a half. They aren't surveillance class drives, so the duty cycle probably isn't what a surveillance drive would give you. I don't think they even make surveillance class drives in a 2.5" form factor. Note that after I replaced that drive, I did have to reset the Cloudkey back to defaults in order to get it to come alive again. I'm not sure if that's typical, as this is the only time I've had this happen. Since I had to reset the Cloudkey, I then had to restore it from a backup in order to avoid physically resetting and re-adopting all the cameras and APs. The Cloudkey should configure itself to back up to the cloud periodically (just configuration, not footage). Overall, since I started installing UniFi cameras for customers a few years ago, my overall experience with them has been good, and so far, reliability seems fine. Someone mentioned the flash drives burning out in the NVRs. That issue got resolved quite a while ago. I had a customer where I had installed a G4 Bullet in a shop that caught fire (the shop caught fire, not the camera). The camera picked up where the fire started (a bucket full of rags), and recorded everything until there was so much smoke it couldn't see anymore. The camera survived the fire. I don't think it was ever exposed to direct flames, but it was about 12 feet away from a 55" TV that completely melted. It had to have endured some pretty serious heat. That was about a year ago and that camera is still going strong. Craig On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:00 PM Bill Prince wrote: > > bp > > > On 3/6/2024 1:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > *FWIW, some customers seem to like the Blink cameras (Amazon's other > camera brand besides Ring). I know you said no batteries, but supposedly > with the 900 MHz Sync module, the camera batteries last 1-2 years. My > understanding is that's because they use the 900 MHz Blink protocol for > command & control and only use WiFi when sending video. You're sure you > can't get your WiFi to reach out there? * > > Absolutely not. The spot we want to put the camera is at least a couple > hundred feet away from the house (at least where the WiFi is) and about > 60-70 feet lower elevation. We have a shed about 50' away behind the house > where we get WiFi occasionally that is only 30' behind the house and on the > same elevation with no trees. Plus I need to mount the camera in a tree > about 8' above the ground to get adequate view of the driveway below. It > will be a challenge to get a ladder there to mount it in the first place. I > don't want to visit it very often, if at all. > > *As far as IR illumination, you can't put an illuminator on the house to > light up the driveway? Or is this a long winding drive and you want to > watch the part by the road? * > > Yeah. Very long driveway; maybe 3/4 mile in all. However the area we want > to cover is not even visible from the house. It's maybe only 1/8 mile along > the driveway, but the driveway makes a U-turn back on itself as is follows > the ground contour. It will not be a problem to get ethernet down there, as > I can put a switch partway in between to make the distance. > > *Oh, and the audio has problems with wind noise, but maybe all cameras > have that problem? If there's no wind it can pick up people talking 200 > feet away, but if it's windy, the microphone is useless.* > > Not too worried about that. It is quite sheltered down there, and I don't > really expect any real wind. > > Thanks for the thoughts though. Always good to consider the issues. > > I did order the G5-PRO and the Cloudkey thingy. The description of the > Cloudkey made it sound like they have an actual hard drive in it. If I have > to swap the hard drive, at least it will be somewhere where I won't have to > get on a ladder. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
bp On 3/6/2024 1:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: /FWIW, some customers seem to like the Blink cameras (Amazon's other camera brand besides Ring). I know you said no batteries, but supposedly with the 900 MHz Sync module, the camera batteries last 1-2 years. My understanding is that's because they use the 900 MHz Blink protocol for command & control and only use WiFi when sending video. You're sure you can't get your WiFi to reach out there? / Absolutely not. The spot we want to put the camera is at least a couple hundred feet away from the house (at least where the WiFi is) and about 60-70 feet lower elevation. We have a shed about 50' away behind the house where we get WiFi occasionally that is only 30' behind the house and on the same elevation with no trees. Plus I need to mount the camera in a tree about 8' above the ground to get adequate view of the driveway below. It will be a challenge to get a ladder there to mount it in the first place. I don't want to visit it very often, if at all. /As far as IR illumination, you can't put an illuminator on the house to light up the driveway? Or is this a long winding drive and you want to watch the part by the road? / Yeah. Very long driveway; maybe 3/4 mile in all. However the area we want to cover is not even visible from the house. It's maybe only 1/8 mile along the driveway, but the driveway makes a U-turn back on itself as is follows the ground contour. It will not be a problem to get ethernet down there, as I can put a switch partway in between to make the distance. /Oh, and the audio has problems with wind noise, but maybe all cameras have that problem? If there's no wind it can pick up people talking 200 feet away, but if it's windy, the microphone is useless./ Not too worried about that. It is quite sheltered down there, and I don't really expect any real wind. Thanks for the thoughts though. Always good to consider the issues. I did order the G5-PRO and the Cloudkey thingy. The description of the Cloudkey made it sound like they have an actual hard drive in it. If I have to swap the hard drive, at least it will be somewhere where I won't have to get on a ladder. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
FWIW, some customers seem to like the Blink cameras (Amazon's other camera brand besides Ring). I know you said no batteries, but supposedly with the 900 MHz Sync module, the camera batteries last 1-2 years. My understanding is that's because they use the 900 MHz Blink protocol for command & control and only use WiFi when sending video. You're sure you can't get your WiFi to reach out there? As far as IR illumination, you can't put an illuminator on the house to light up the driveway? Or is this a long winding drive and you want to watch the part by the road? But as far as the UniFi cameras, I have mixed feelings about them. They seem kind of pricey. I use the NVR not the Cloud Key. Maybe subconsciously I don't want to buy something with UCK for the part number? I have one of the WIFi indoor cameras in the shelter at a tower, it's OK. I have G4 Bullets and G4 Pros, I found the build quality and mounting method for the Bullet to be inferior to the Pro. And somebody warned me the flash in the NVRs tends to die and then you have to reload the OS. Oh, and the audio has problems with wind noise, but maybe all cameras have that problem? If there's no wind it can pick up people talking 200 feet away, but if it's windy, the microphone is useless. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 2:53 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I have no constructive input. UniFi always finds a way to tick me off. Their original Ubiquiti AirVision camera system was such a horror show that the cameras in particular give me a visceral response. Regardless of how they've improved I can't forgive them. I guess their WiFi is ok enough for some purposes. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 04, 2024 1:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
I have no constructive input. UniFi always finds a way to tick me off. Their original Ubiquiti AirVision camera system was such a horror show that the cameras in particular give me a visceral response. Regardless of how they've improved I can't forgive them. I guess their WiFi is ok enough for some purposes. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 04, 2024 1:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
The G5-PRO is not advertised as recognizing license plates. I think the
AI equivalent is "supposed to", but that's not my goal in either case.
bp
On 3/5/2024 7:57 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We can never see the license plates.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2024 8:50 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
It might be OK. The G5-PRO has a visor over the top, plus, in this
instance it will be pointed down at an approximately 45° angle. I
think it will be mounted high enough that there won't be any splash
from the ground below. That said, it would not be a problem for me to
fashion an additional visor.
Thanks for the tip though.
bp
On 3/5/2024 7:35 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
The problem I've found with bullt in illumination for outdoor cameras
is that often the leds for illumination are behind the glass the
camera is looking through. As a result, the illuminator ends up
illuminating anything that is on the glass and preventing good night
vision. In an outdoor setting, the glass doesn't stay clean for very
long so for outdoor cameras I almost always use an external illuminator.
I don't know how the camera you mentioned is designed and if that is
the case with it.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 2:35 PM Bill Prince wrote:
I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet,
which
is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5
cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper;
even in IR.
bp
On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an
illuminator. But
> it sounds like you are already planning on one of these:
>
https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers
> /products/uacc-g5-enhancer
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>
> The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a
different
> illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that
impressed by
> color. That would also require running another cable to power the
> illuminator.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could
also let you
>> choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible.
>>
>> I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be
good IF it
> works
>> as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could
delay the
> switch
>> to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less
useful.
>>
>> Here's an example of what I've seen advertised:
>>
>> https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>
>> The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in
this
>> location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The
spotlight
> (which
>> I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop).
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>>
>> On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Not really answering your question, but I did see this
article a few
>>> days
>>> ago:
>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330
>>> -featu
>>> res-price
>>>
>>> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't
comment on
>>> the G5.
>>>
>>> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become
glowing
>> eyes.
>>> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM
>>> To: AFMUG
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>>
>>> I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a
>>> 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off
topic after
>> all.
>>> We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough
away, and
>>> with terrain & tree issues overlooking the
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
Reading license plates is more difficult than they make it seem on TV shows. I have a G4 Pro with 3x optical zoom pointed at the gate at one of our tower sites, but normally it’s at 1x and you would need to realize there is an intruder and zoom in while they are actually there. Same with a PTZ camera. Unless they have AI now that detects a vehicle and automatically zooms in on the license plate. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 9:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience We can never see the license plates. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 8:50 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience It might be OK. The G5-PRO has a visor over the top, plus, in this instance it will be pointed down at an approximately 45° angle. I think it will be mounted high enough that there won't be any splash from the ground below. That said, it would not be a problem for me to fashion an additional visor. Thanks for the tip though. bp On 3/5/2024 7:35 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: The problem I've found with bullt in illumination for outdoor cameras is that often the leds for illumination are behind the glass the camera is looking through. As a result, the illuminator ends up illuminating anything that is on the glass and preventing good night vision. In an outdoor setting, the glass doesn't stay clean for very long so for outdoor cameras I almost always use an external illuminator. I don't know how the camera you mentioned is designed and if that is the case with it. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 2:35 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote: I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet, which is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5 cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper; even in IR. bp On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an illuminator. But > it sounds like you are already planning on one of these: > https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers > /products/uacc-g5-enhancer > > > -Original Message- > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On > Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > > The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different > illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by > color. That would also require running another cable to power the > illuminator. > > bp > > > On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you >> choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. >> >> I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it > works >> as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the > switch >> to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. >> >> Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: >> >> https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On >> Behalf Of Bill Prince >> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM >> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience >> >> The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this >> location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight > (which >> I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few >>> days >>> ago: >>> https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 >>> -featu >>> res-price >>> >>> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on >>> the G5. >>> >>> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing >> eyes. >>> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On >>> Behalf Of Bill Prince >>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM >>> To: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience >>> >>> I tri
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
We can never see the license plates.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 8:50 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
It might be OK. The G5-PRO has a visor over the top, plus, in this instance it
will be pointed down at an approximately 45° angle. I think it will be mounted
high enough that there won't be any splash from the ground below. That said, it
would not be a problem for me to fashion an additional visor.
Thanks for the tip though.
bp
On 3/5/2024 7:35 AM, Forrest Christian (List
Account) wrote:
The problem I've found with bullt in illumination for outdoor cameras is that
often the leds for illumination are behind the glass the camera is looking
through. As a result, the illuminator ends up illuminating anything that is
on the glass and preventing good night vision. In an outdoor setting, the glass
doesn't stay clean for very long so for outdoor cameras I almost always use an
external illuminator.
I don't know how the camera you mentioned is designed and if that is the case
with it.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 2:35 PM Bill Prince wrote:
I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet, which
is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5
cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper; even in IR.
bp
On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an illuminator. But
> it sounds like you are already planning on one of these:
>
https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers
> /products/uacc-g5-enhancer
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>
> The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different
> illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by
> color. That would also require running another cable to power the
> illuminator.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you
>> choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible.
>>
>> I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it
> works
>> as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the
> switch
>> to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful.
>>
>> Here's an example of what I've seen advertised:
>>
>> https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>
>> The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this
>> location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight
> (which
>> I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop).
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>>
>> On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few
>>> days
>>> ago:
>>> https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330
>>> -featu
>>> res-price
>>>
>>> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on
>>> the G5.
>>>
>>> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing
>> eyes.
>>> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM
>>> To: AFMUG
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>>
>>> I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a
>>> 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after
>> all.
>>> We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and
>>> with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property.
>>> It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights
>>> down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to
>>> reach that I don't want to mess with batteri
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
It might be OK. The G5-PRO has a visor over the top, plus, in this
instance it will be pointed down at an approximately 45° angle. I think
it will be mounted high enough that there won't be any splash from the
ground below. That said, it would not be a problem for me to fashion an
additional visor.
Thanks for the tip though.
bp
On 3/5/2024 7:35 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
The problem I've found with bullt in illumination for outdoor cameras
is that often the leds for illumination are behind the glass the
camera is looking through. As a result, the illuminator ends up
illuminating anything that is on the glass and preventing good night
vision. In an outdoor setting, the glass doesn't stay clean for very
long so for outdoor cameras I almost always use an external illuminator.
I don't know how the camera you mentioned is designed and if that is
the case with it.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 2:35 PM Bill Prince wrote:
I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet,
which
is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5
cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper;
even in IR.
bp
On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an
illuminator. But
> it sounds like you are already planning on one of these:
>
https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers
> /products/uacc-g5-enhancer
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>
> The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a
different
> illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that
impressed by
> color. That would also require running another cable to power the
> illuminator.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could
also let you
>> choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible.
>>
>> I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be
good IF it
> works
>> as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could
delay the
> switch
>> to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less
useful.
>>
>> Here's an example of what I've seen advertised:
>>
>> https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>
>> The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this
>> location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The
spotlight
> (which
>> I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop).
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>>
>> On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Not really answering your question, but I did see this article
a few
>>> days
>>> ago:
>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330
>>> -featu
>>> res-price
>>>
>>> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't
comment on
>>> the G5.
>>>
>>> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become
glowing
>> eyes.
>>> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM
>>> To: AFMUG
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
>>>
>>> I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a
>>> 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off
topic after
>> all.
>>> We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough
away, and
>>> with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our
property.
>>> It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no
lights
>>> down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult
enough to
>>> reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it
will be a
>> wired/POE camera.
>>> The camera that (so far)
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
The problem I've found with bullt in illumination for outdoor cameras is that often the leds for illumination are behind the glass the camera is looking through. As a result, the illuminator ends up illuminating anything that is on the glass and preventing good night vision. In an outdoor setting, the glass doesn't stay clean for very long so for outdoor cameras I almost always use an external illuminator. I don't know how the camera you mentioned is designed and if that is the case with it. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 2:35 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet, which > is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5 > cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper; even in IR. > > > bp > > > On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an illuminator. > But > > it sounds like you are already planning on one of these: > > > https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers > > /products/uacc-g5-enhancer > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > > > > The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different > > illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by > > color. That would also require running another cable to power the > > illuminator. > > > > bp > > > > > > On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let > you > >> choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. > >> > >> I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it > > works > >> as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the > > switch > >> to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. > >> > >> Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: > >> > >> https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > >> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM > >> To: af@af.afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > >> > >> The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this > >> location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight > > (which > >> I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). > >> > >> > >> bp > >> > >> > >> On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >>> Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few > >>> days > >>> ago: > >>> https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 > >>> -featu > >>> res-price > >>> > >>> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on > >>> the G5. > >>> > >>> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing > >> eyes. > >>> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > >>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM > >>> To: AFMUG > >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > >>> > >>> I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a > >>> 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after > >> all. > >>> We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and > >>> with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. > >>> It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights > >>> down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to > >>> reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a > >> wired/POE camera. > >>> The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi > >>> UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and > >>> the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. > >>> It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone > >> come driving up. > >>> One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I > >>> don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus > >>> if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. > >>> > >>> It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it > >>> can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). > >>> > >>> Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the > >>> Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> bp > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> > >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
I might, but the built-in illuminator goes an advertised 82 feet, which is a bit farther than I need. I've seen comparisons between the G5 cameras and the G4s and G3s, and the G5 is noticeably sharper; even in IR. bp On 3/4/2024 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an illuminator. But it sounds like you are already planning on one of these: https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers /products/uacc-g5-enhancer -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by color. That would also require running another cable to power the illuminator. bp On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it works as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the switch to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight (which I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). bp On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few days ago: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 -featu res-price As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on the G5. At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing eyes. In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
Someone told me there is a USB connector for powering an illuminator. But it sounds like you are already planning on one of these: https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-camera-enhancers /products/uacc-g5-enhancer -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:13 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by color. That would also require running another cable to power the illuminator. bp On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you > choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. > > I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it works > as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the switch > to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. > > Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: > > https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > > The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this > location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight (which > I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). > > > bp > > > On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few >> days >> ago: >> https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 >> -featu >> res-price >> >> As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on >> the G5. >> >> At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing > eyes. >> In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince >> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM >> To: AFMUG >> Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience >> >> I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a >> 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after > all. >> We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and >> with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. >> It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights >> down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to >> reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a > wired/POE camera. >> The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi >> UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and >> the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. >> It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone > come driving up. >> One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I >> don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus >> if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. >> >> It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it >> can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). >> >> Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the >> Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. >> >> -- >> bp >> >> >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
The G5-PRO does allow you to turn off its IR so you can add a different illuminator. However, being color blind, I'm not all that impressed by color. That would also require running another cable to power the illuminator. bp On 3/4/2024 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it works as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the switch to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight (which I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). bp On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few days ago: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 -featu res-price As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on the G5. At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing eyes. In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
Some people get a powerful add-on IR illuminator, that could also let you choose the wavelength to make sure it's not visible. I've seen ads for color night vision cameras, that could be good IF it works as advertised. On our G4 Pro tower cameras I wish I could delay the switch to night vision until it's really dark, the B image is less useful. Here's an example of what I've seen advertised: https://www.tp-link.com/us/technology/tapo-camera/ -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight (which I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). bp On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few > days > ago: > https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330 > -featu > res-price > > As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on > the G5. > > At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing eyes. > In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM > To: AFMUG > Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience > > I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a > 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. > > We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and > with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. > It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights > down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to > reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. > > The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi > UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and > the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. > It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. > > One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I > don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus > if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. > > It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it > can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). > > Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the > Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. > > -- > bp > > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
The only problems with that camera are 1)Effectively no sun in this location, 2)No LTE available there, 3)No IR mode, and 4)The spotlight (which I don't want anyway) only goes 26 feet (big whoop). bp On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few days ago: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330-featu res-price As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on the G5. At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing eyes. In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
Not really answering your question, but I did see this article a few days ago: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085151/anker-eufy-4k-lte-cam-s330-featu res-price As far as Ubiquiti cameras, I only have the F4-Pro so can't comment on the G5. At night, IR mode is a mixed bag. People and critters become glowing eyes. In some weather we get swirling fog or mystery floaties. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 12:31 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience
I got both. Just have no useful comments. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 10:31 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Security camera experience I tried sending this "OT", but nothing happened (reminds me of a 3-Stooges script), so I decided that maybe it's not so off topic after all. We want to put up a security camera where it is far enough away, and with terrain & tree issues overlooking the entrance to our property. It will be about 50-60 feet above the driveway. There are no lights down there, and the spot where I want to put it is difficult enough to reach that I don't want to mess with batteries or WiFi. So it will be a wired/POE camera. The camera that (so far) seems to meet my needs is the Unifi UVC-G5-PRO, mainly because it has an ~~80 foot range in IR mode, and the image quality is noticeably better than the G4 and below models. It also has enough smarts to act as a "doorbell" of sorts should anyone come driving up. One downside is that it's WHITE, so I will need to camo it somewhat. I don't know if the IR is low or no glow, but that would be a major plus if it had it because I don't want it drawing attention. It will also require Ubiqiti's Cloud Key G2+ to act as an NVR (and it can handle a few more cameras should the need arise). Before I pull the trigger on this, I thought I'd throw it out to the Borg to see if anyone has any other thoughts or recommendations. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
