Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread dave via AF


I like cnmaestro for these deployments because once you work out any 
provisioning issues you can hand over the keys to the project or offer a 
MSP contract to help with management or program changes they need.



On 8/22/19 8:29 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I wonder what the Xirrus acquisition will mean.  Is the focus on the 
development team, cloud management, or the WiFi hardware?


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Paul,
 Have a look at the E700/E500 outdoor APs by Cambium networks.
I have done 2 large campus projects and now doing our first 
Campground. Easy to mesh and configure and performance hits the nail.


On 8/21/19 5:44 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect
about 6 APs back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is
a thing.  Meaning the guy with a tablet is going to wander the
grounds and need to switch APs automagically.  In the past, we
have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, backhauled it to
the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

*Paul McCall, President *

*Florida Broadband / PDMNet*

*658 Old Dixie Highway*

*Vero Beach, FL 32962*

*772-564-6800*






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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder what the Xirrus acquisition will mean.  Is the focus on the
development team, cloud management, or the WiFi hardware?

 

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

 

Paul,
 Have a look at the E700/E500 outdoor APs by Cambium networks.
I have done 2 large campus projects and now doing our first Campground. Easy
to mesh and configure and performance hits the nail.

 

On 8/21/19 5:44 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

We have a small agriculture "campus" where we need to connect about 6 APs
back to the campus tower for "roaming" Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the
guy with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs
automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each
spot, backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best
AP.

 

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

 

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?  

 

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

 

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

 





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread dave via AF

Paul,
 Have a look at the E700/E500 outdoor APs by Cambium networks.
I have done 2 large campus projects and now doing our first Campground. 
Easy to mesh and configure and performance hits the nail.




On 8/21/19 5:44 PM, Paul McCall wrote:


We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 
APs back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  
Meaning the guy with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need 
to switch APs automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 
2.4 APs at each spot, backhauled it to the main tower, and the 
customer had to pick the best AP.


I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

*Paul McCall, President *

*Florida Broadband / PDMNet*

*658 Old Dixie Highway*

*Vero Beach, FL 32962*

*772-564-6800*




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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Paul,

Give us a call, we have all of the solutions, including the high $$ ones if you 
want it.  Really depends on what they expect.  Expectations are everything.  We 
have deployed systems where a VOIP phone can roam without issues, but again, 
they are different than most.


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MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition"
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 5:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

We have a small agriculture "campus" where we need to connect about 6 APs back 
to the campus tower for "roaming" Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the guy 
with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs 
automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, 
backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Daniel White
The folks at DoubleRadius or Streakwave should be able to help.  Many of 
the resellers have certified engineers as well.


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Paul McCall wrote on 8/22/19 05:29:


Daniel,

Do you have a good source for me to talk to on design for this?  Not 
sometime we do very often and I want to make sure we cover all the 
dynamics of how it gets setup.


Paul

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:32 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

The Unifi Mesh AP's with a Gen2 Cloud Key... works pretty good.  You 
can even remotely manage it without too much trouble.


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*phone:* +1 (702) 470-2766
*direct:*+1 (702) 470-2770


Paul McCall wrote on 8/21/19 16:44:

We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect
about 6 APs back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is
a thing.  Meaning the guy with a tablet is going to wander the
grounds and need to switch APs automagically. In the past, we have
just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, backhauled it to the
main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

*Paul McCall, President *

*Florida Broadband / PDMNet*

*658 Old Dixie Highway*

*Vero Beach, FL 32962*

*772-564-6800*







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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-22 Thread Paul McCall
Daniel,

Do you have a good source for me to talk to on design for this?  Not sometime 
we do very often and I want to make sure we cover all the dynamics of how it 
gets setup.

Paul

From: AF  On Behalf Of Daniel White
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

The Unifi Mesh AP's with a Gen2 Cloud Key... works pretty good.  You can even 
remotely manage it without too much trouble.

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Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
phone: +1 (702) 470-2766
direct: +1 (702) 470-2770
Paul McCall wrote on 8/21/19 16:44:

We have a small agriculture "campus" where we need to connect about 6 APs back 
to the campus tower for "roaming" Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the guy 
with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs 
automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, 
backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800




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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-21 Thread Daniel White
The Unifi Mesh AP's with a Gen2 Cloud Key... works pretty good.  You can 
even remotely manage it without too much trouble.


photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
phone: +1 (702) 470-2766
direct:+1 (702) 470-2770

Paul McCall wrote on 8/21/19 16:44:


We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 
APs back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  
Meaning the guy with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need 
to switch APs automagically. In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 
2.4 APs at each spot, backhauled it to the main tower, and the 
customer had to pick the best AP.


I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

*Paul McCall, President *

*Florida Broadband / PDMNet*

*658 Old Dixie Highway*

*Vero Beach, FL 32962*

*772-564-6800*





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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-21 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"


Paul,

Mikrotik may also do that.  If I remember correctly a few years back, mikrotik had a feature to do this.  I believe you would set a threshold signal on the AP's that if a client fell below that threshold they would be disconnected.  Theory was if they were disconnected from a weak AP they would re-connect to the strongest AP.  If DHCP was being handled at a central router, it should be almost seamless.  That was the theory at least.  I think this morphed into capsman at some point.

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Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

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Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 6:44:01 PM, you wrote:





We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 APs back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the guy with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.
 
I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.
 
How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?  
 
Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?
 
Paul McCall, President 
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
 





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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Cisco Cisco, or Cisco Meraki?

 

When I encounter customers who have Cisco APs or even security appliances, it 
seems they are pushing the Meraki product line now.  It could be the same old 
stuff with different branding, but probably not, it seems that Cisco realized 
the Meraki stuff was better and that’s why they paid over $1 billion to buy the 
company.

 

The original Cisco WiFi product line I suspect was overpriced and nothing to 
write home about.  Along the lines of the old saying that nobody every got 
fired for buying IBM.  Subsititute Cisco for IBM.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

 

I used 6 UniFi APs to prove a point against 26 Cisco APs in a warehouse for 
barcode scanners...

I have never had issues with them.

 

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:44 PM Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 APs back 
to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the guy 
with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs 
automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, 
backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

 

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

 

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?  

 

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

 

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
I used 6 UniFi APs to prove a point against 26 Cisco APs in a warehouse for
barcode scanners...
I have never had issues with them.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:44 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 APs
> back to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning
> the guy with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs
> automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each
> spot, backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the
> best AP.
>
>
>
> I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.
>
>
>
> How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?
>
>
>
> Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?
>
>
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>
> *772-564-6800*
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Re: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

2019-08-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I am guessing if all the APs have the same SSID but different channels, the 
user device will switch on its own.  Set up 2 or 3 routers and experiment a 
bit.  

From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Wifi Campus"

We have a small agriculture “campus” where we need to connect about 6 APs back 
to the campus tower for “roaming” Wifi if that is a thing.  Meaning the guy 
with a tablet is going to wander the grounds and need to switch APs 
automagically.  In the past, we have just setup Mikrotik 2.4 APs at each spot, 
backhauled it to the main tower, and the customer had to pick the best AP.

 

I know there are high $$ solutions but trying to do this on the cheap.

 

How does UBNT Unifi do with something like this?  

 

Any better (still in the cheap range) solutions?

 

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

 




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