Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting

[Mike Hammett]

The last thing I got from them was last summer. I think they bought somebody 
too. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:43:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting 


I'm shocked to see that name again! 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Feb 4, 2015 9:40 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Lol. We were in front of SAF booth talking with Daniel and friends. ..I never 
stopped at Redline. No gear no brochures ..nada 
Jaime Solorza 
On Feb 4, 2015 10:34 PM, "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: 



Whoa, Redline?! 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, "Daniel White" < afmu...@gmail.com > wrote: 





Too bad the cheerleaders were busy 

*** 
Daniel White - Managing Director 
SAF North America LLC 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 
Skype: danieldwhite 
Social: LinkedIn 

*** 

Re: [AFMUG] streaming video

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

45 min into it1.6 gig 
Wow 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] streaming video
Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:09 PM
I think they just let it go as quick as it can to offload the data asap
Josh Luthman

Office: 937-552-2340

Direct: 937-552-2343

1100 Wayne St

Suite 1337

Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 11:08 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:
Unlimited...but that wasn't the point :). 

Is a 10 meg package the "average" now (to sell) 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] streaming video
Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:03 PM


RIP data allowance
Josh Luthman

Office: 937-552-2340

Direct: 937-552-2343

1100 Wayne St

Suite 1337

Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:58 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:






 
streaming a program i watch regularly "on demand" - using 
my vzw hotspot.
running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] streaming video

[Josh Luthman]

I think they just let it go as quick as it can to offload the data asap

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 11:08 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> Unlimited...but that wasn't the point :).
>
> Is a 10 meg package the "average" now (to sell)
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: 
> Subject: [AFMUG] streaming video
> Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:03 PM
>
>
> RIP data allowance
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 4, 2015 10:58 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> streaming a program i watch regularly "on demand" - using my vzw hotspot.
>> running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] streaming video

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Unlimited...but that wasn't the point :). 

Is a 10 meg package the "average" now (to sell) 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] streaming video
Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:03 PM
RIP data allowance
Josh Luthman

Office: 937-552-2340

Direct: 937-552-2343

1100 Wayne St

Suite 1337

Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:58 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:






 
streaming a program i watch regularly "on demand" - using 
my vzw hotspot.
running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] streaming video

[Josh Luthman]

RIP data allowance

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:58 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> streaming a program i watch regularly "on demand" - using my vzw hotspot.
> running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD
>
>
>

[AFMUG] streaming video

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

streaming a program i watch regularly "on demand" - using my vzw hotspot.
running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Sign us up. We will buy it as soon as we can get it. Like others said its a big 
country and there are places this will work. We happen to be in one of them. 

Brandon Yuchasz 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)"  wrote:

>You guys know I'm happy to see this happen, but we might never be able to use 
>it because of ComEd's planned smart grid roll-out this year. I hate my life.
>
>On 2/4/2015 5:08 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
>
>
>Just to correct something glaringly wrong here…. The 900 MHz PMP 450 product 
>is expected to launch in Q4, 2015, with a 5!
>
> 
>
>Matt
>
> 
>
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:22 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
> 
>
>That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that advertise 
>streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to do solely that. 
>It's a product designed for the customer with no other good options.
>
>With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor performance of 
>satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as another viable option 
>aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be big for the company that 
>purchased our WISP - especially since the group they are a part of who owns 
>their 700MHz spectrum is flirting with selling it to ATT.
>
>Rory McCann
>
>MKAP Technology Solutions
>
>Web: www.mkap.net
>
>On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
>MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
>stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
>wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.
>
> 
>
>I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or customer 
>expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a product.  And 
>who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more robustness to 
>multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.
>
> 
>
>From: Andy Trimmell 
>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
>
>To: af@afmug.com 
>
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
> 
>
>40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
>because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix
>
> 
>
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
> 
>
>Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps
>
> 
>
>Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm
>
> 
>
>From: Chuck McCown 
>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
>
>To: af@afmug.com 
>
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
> 
>
>3x throughput increase
>
> 
>
>From: Chuck McCown 
>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
>
>To: af@afmug.com 
>
>Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
> 
>
>40 MHz channels
>
> 
>
> 
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)]

You guys know I'm happy to see this happen, but we might never be able 
to use it because of ComEd's planned smart grid roll-out this year. I 
hate my life.


On 2/4/2015 5:08 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


Just to correct something glaringly wrong here…. The 900 MHz PMP 450 
product is expected to launch in Q4, 2015, with a 5!


Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory McCann
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that 
advertise streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to 
do solely that. It's a product designed for the customer with no other 
good options.


With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor 
performance of satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as 
another viable option aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be 
big for the company that purchased our WISP - especially since the 
group they are a part of who owns their 700MHz spectrum is flirting 
with selling it to ATT.


Rory McCann
MKAP Technology Solutions
Web:www.mkap.net  

On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in
trees and 900 MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their
customer base doesn’t need to stream 4K, they just want more
throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via wider channels,
higher modulation, or magic.

I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor
or customer expectations, but some people consistently say they
want such a product. And who knows, maybe there’s some magic,
too?  Like maybe more robustness to multipath, which seems to
bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

*From:*Andy Trimmell 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1
customer to it because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

*From:*Chuck McCown 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

*From:*Chuck McCown 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*[AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

[AFMUG] 1 dead after plane crashes into West Texas TV tower - seattlepi.com

[Jaime Solorza]

http://m.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/1-dead-after-plane-crashes-into-West-Texas-TV-6063652.php

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting

[Josh Luthman]

I'm shocked to see that name again!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 9:40 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Lol. We were in front of SAF booth talking with Daniel and friends. ..I
> never stopped at Redline. No gear no brochures ..nada
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 10:34 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Whoa, Redline?!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad the cheerleaders were busy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> Daniel White - Managing Director
>>>
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting

[Jaime Solorza]

Lol. We were in front of SAF booth talking with Daniel and friends. ..I
never stopped at Redline. No gear no brochures ..nada

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 10:34 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Whoa, Redline?!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:
>
>> Too bad the cheerleaders were busy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Daniel White - Managing Director
>>
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting

[Josh Luthman]

Whoa, Redline?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:

> Too bad the cheerleaders were busy
>
>
>
> ***
>
> Daniel White - Managing Director
>
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn 
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Peter Kranz]

It’s definitely possible to get close to or over 100 Mbps in a PMP scenario is 
a 20Mhz channel on the RM5AC product.. I previously posted some real-world 
results for this platform to the forum. To summarize: RM5AC deployed on a 
crappy channel, running Iperf to a variety of subscribers with various signal 
levels while the AP was carrying production traffic… note subscriber .115’s 
results:

 

Last IP octet / download speed / upload speed:

.193 67.4 Mbps down /  76.9 Mbps up

.100 47.4 Mbps down / 67.5 Mbps  up

.104 35.7 Mbps down / 27.4 Mbps up

.115 90.0 Mbps down / 109 Mbps up

.178 53.6 Mbps down / 59.2 Mbps up

.120  50.7 Mbps down / 73 Mbps up

.121 60.1 Mbps down / 70.9 Mbps up

.169 56.1 Mbps down / 64.1 Mbps up

.111 44.6 Mbps down / 29.7 Mbps up

.103 46.9 Mbps down / 52.9 Mbps up

 

-PK

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I use 20mhz and top out at 97mbps (router limit)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

There are multiple platforms being discussed here. Make sure what you're 
thinking about is what they're talking about.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 



From: "Bill Prince" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:21:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

Well, if you believe the 10 bits/Hz story, then it should be able to do 100 
Mbps in 10 MHz.  Right?

bp

 

On 2/4/2015 7:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:

Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do 
they accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?

Thank you, 

Brett A Mansfield


On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:

I’ve got about 20 of them..

 

-Peter

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay 
Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

 

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the 
stock locater but wondered if anyone actually has them

- Original Message - 

From: Josh Reynolds   

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n

:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile

 

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

 

100mbps to individual customers or net? There 
isn't <75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

TDMA

PMP

AC RocketDish

Airprism active RF front end filter

450 Mbps

Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP 
customers.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Mike Hammett]

There are multiple platforms being discussed here. Make sure what you're 
thinking about is what they're talking about. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:21:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC 


Well, if you believe the 10 bits/Hz story, then it should be able to do 100 
Mbps in 10 MHz. Right? 

bp
 On 2/4/2015 7:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: 



Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do they 
accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM? 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz < pkr...@unwiredltd.com > wrote: 






I’ve got about 20 of them.. 

-Peter 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC 




anyone have any nanobeam acs? just submitted a request to the stock locater but 
wondered if anyone actually has them 



- Original Message - 

From: Josh Reynolds 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC 


AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n 
:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile 


On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie < 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: 




100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?! 

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






TDMA 

PMP 

AC RocketDish 

Airprism active RF front end filter 

450 Mbps 

Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers. 

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Josh Reynolds]

I heard 10bits/hz for AF, not AC.

That said, I've heard numbers ~65+ TCP throughput on 10MHz wide channels 
on ubnt ac stuff (powerbeams, rocket lites, etc)


On 02/04/2015 06:21 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Well, if you believe the 10 bits/Hz story, then it should be able to 
do 100 Mbps in 10 MHz.  Right?


bp


On 2/4/2015 7:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do 
they accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?


Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz > wrote:



I’ve got about 20 of them..

-Peter

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Cc:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock 
locater but wondered if anyone actually has them


- Original Message -

*From:*Josh Reynolds 

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n

:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:

100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75%
overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

TDMA

PMP

AC RocketDish

Airprism active RF front end filter

450 Mbps

Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Mathew Howard]

They can do more than 100Mb with a 20mhz channel in PtP mode, so I think
100Mb+ real world is believable, especially with wider channels.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
br...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do they
> accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
>
> I’ve got about 20 of them..
>
>
>
> -Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC
>
>
>
>
>
> anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock
> locater but wondered if anyone actually has them
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC
>
>
>
> AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n
>
> :: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is
> there?!
>
> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> TDMA
>
> PMP
>
> AC RocketDish
>
> Airprism active RF front end filter
>
> 450 Mbps
>
> Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Bill Prince]

Well, if you believe the 10 bits/Hz story, then it should be able to do 
100 Mbps in 10 MHz.  Right?


bp


On 2/4/2015 7:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do 
they accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?


Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz > wrote:



I’ve got about 20 of them..

-Peter

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Cc:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock 
locater but wondered if anyone actually has them


- Original Message -

*From:*Josh Reynolds 

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n

:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:

100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75%
overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

TDMA

PMP

AC RocketDish

Airprism active RF front end filter

450 Mbps

Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

[AFMUG] PacketFlux Traning Date/Time Change

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

After talking with numerous people who would like to do the training on
Thursday instead of Friday, and noting that the agenda for Thursday ends at
3pm, we've decided to move the PacketFlux training to Thursday starting at
3:30ish.   *ish* meaning we'll start about a half hour or so after the end
of the last session on Thursday.  This will be downstairs in the back room.

This training will cover a lot of the less obvious and mostly undocumented
parts of the  sitemonitor system.  Familiarity with the system or a similar
system will be very helpful.

If you're interested in attending, I'd appreciate if you'd stop by the
PacketFlux booth or send me an email off of list.   I'm trying to get a
rough count of who is attending for planning purposes.

-forrest

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Brett A Mansfield]

Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do they 
accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got about 20 of them..
>  
> -Peter
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC
>  
>  
> anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock locater 
> but wondered if anyone actually has them
> - Original Message -
> From: Josh Reynolds
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC
>  
> AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n
> 
> :: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile
> 
>  
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
>  wrote:
>  
> 100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!
> 
> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> TDMA
> PMP
> AC RocketDish
> Airprism active RF front end filter
> 450 Mbps
> Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Josh Reynolds]

I can't wait until they start rating hard drives at the "number of 
internets you can download onto the drive".


"This is a 6 internets drive!"



(j/k ;))

On 02/04/2015 04:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
On board _*H*_eptadekillion (byte) _*D*_isk _*D*_rive.  Enough on 
board storage to hold everything currently digitized.


bp


On 2/4/2015 5:25 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
The HDD is referring to the Proprietary SSD that's inside the unit.  
It cashes a copy of the whole internet, that's why it's so fast, it 
only has to tell the far radio what video to stream out the Ethernet 
port.

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Bill Prince]

On board _*H*_eptadekillion (byte) _*D*_isk _*D*_rive.  Enough on board 
storage to hold everything currently digitized.


bp


On 2/4/2015 5:25 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
The HDD is referring to the Proprietary SSD that's inside the unit.  
It cashes a copy of the whole internet, that's why it's so fast, it 
only has to tell the far radio what video to stream out the Ethernet port.

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Bill Prince]

Doh!

bp


On 2/4/2015 5:25 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

The 3rd is for the GPS Antenna for Sync.

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Mike Hammett]

GPS 

Hybrid. It's the same thing they've been touting since the AF came onboard. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 7:22:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X 


So what's with the 3 antenna connectors on top? The little video only shows 
using the two outside. What would the third one be for? 

And what does HDD stand for? Hybrid Division Duplex? Hoaky Division Duplex? 
Haquioktaha Division Duplex? 
bp
 On 2/4/2015 3:58 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: 



Wow, $800+antennas for a FPGA-based link that can do 400mbit down / 100mbit up 
and feed internet to a lot of people. Many of the cheaper licensed links you 
buy today don't hit that 1-way speed, and they cost $800 for the antennas 
alone. Bravo Ubiquiti. 



On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






$399.99 per end 

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Nate Burke]

The 3rd is for the GPS Antenna for Sync.

The HDD is referring to the Proprietary SSD that's inside the unit. It 
cashes a copy of the whole internet, that's why it's so fast, it only 
has to tell the far radio what video to stream out the Ethernet port.



On 2/4/2015 7:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
So what's with the 3 antenna connectors on top? The little video only 
shows using the two outside. What would the third one be for?


And what does HDD stand for? Hybrid Division Duplex? Hoaky Division 
Duplex? Haquioktaha Division Duplex?

bp

On 2/4/2015 3:58 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Wow, $800+antennas for a FPGA-based link that can do 400mbit down / 
100mbit up and feed internet to a lot of people. Many of the cheaper 
licensed links you buy today don't hit that 1-way speed, and they 
cost $800 for the antennas alone. Bravo Ubiquiti.


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


$399.99 per end

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Bill Prince]

So what's with the 3 antenna connectors on top? The little video only 
shows using the two outside. What would the third one be for?


And what does HDD stand for? Hybrid Division Duplex? Hoaky Division 
Duplex? Haquioktaha Division Duplex?


bp


On 2/4/2015 3:58 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Wow, $800+antennas for a FPGA-based link that can do 400mbit down / 
100mbit up and feed internet to a lot of people. Many of the cheaper 
licensed links you buy today don't hit that 1-way speed, and they cost 
$800 for the antennas alone. Bravo Ubiquiti.


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


$399.99 per end

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Josh Luthman]

Lot of things in between before it...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 5:14 PM, "Louis Arsenault"  wrote:

> The rumor is this will also be integrated into the ePMP at a later time.
>
> -Louis
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
> > Option66 enable zero touch config.  Enable installer mode on the ap, new
> sm
> > associates, grabs config and done.
> >
> > Powercode is working on this for their DHCP server.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2015 10:25 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
> >>
> >> What was that DHCP  option66?
> >>
> >> From: CBB - Jay Fuller
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:23 AM
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] release 13.3
> >>
> >>
> >> hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> -Louis
>
> NTInet
> O: 803-533-1660 X 207
> C: 803-997-0004
>

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Mike Hammett]

Yes, very good. I think I've said elsewhere.. . kind of eliminates the market 
for the AC PTP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Colin Stanners"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 5:58:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X 


Wow, $800+antennas for a FPGA-based link that can do 400mbit down / 100mbit up 
and feed internet to a lot of people. Many of the cheaper licensed links you 
buy today don't hit that 1-way speed, and they cost $800 for the antennas 
alone. Bravo Ubiquiti. 



On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






$399.99 per end 

Re: [AFMUG] AF-X + Beehive

[TJ Trout]

Turn them 45?
On Feb 4, 2015 4:25 PM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:

> When can we see slant feedhorns for beehive dishes?  Any way to re-work
> existing 5ghz feedhorns?
>

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Louis Arsenault]

The rumor is this will also be integrated into the ePMP at a later time.

-Louis

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Option66 enable zero touch config.  Enable installer mode on the ap, new sm
> associates, grabs config and done.
>
> Powercode is working on this for their DHCP server.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 4, 2015 10:25 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>> What was that DHCP  option66?
>>
>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:23 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] release 13.3
>>
>>
>> hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!
>>
>>



-- 
-Louis

NTInet
O: 803-533-1660 X 207
C: 803-997-0004

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Peter Kranz]

I’ve got about 20 of them..

 

-Peter

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

 

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock locater 
but wondered if anyone actually has them

- Original Message - 

From: Josh Reynolds   

To: af@afmug.com   

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n

:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile

 

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > 
wrote:

 

100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

TDMA

PMP

AC RocketDish

Airprism active RF front end filter

450 Mbps

Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes typo

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 5:58 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

>  Would hope so.  350 ms would suck bronto.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/4/2015 12:32 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> 350us ?
> On Feb 4, 2015 1:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS
>> 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
>> .50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>>
>>> Is that $9k and end too?!
>>>
>>>  -Ty
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
 Well how about some of this instead?

 Jaime Solorza
   On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>   From: Jaime Solorza 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback
>
>   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Impressive specs will share soon
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Colin Stanners]

Wow, $800+antennas for a FPGA-based link that can do 400mbit down / 100mbit
up and feed internet to a lot of people. Many of the cheaper licensed links
you buy today don't hit that 1-way speed, and they cost $800 for the
antennas alone. Bravo Ubiquiti.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   $399.99 per end
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Bill Prince]

Would hope so.  350 ms would suck bronto.

bp


On 2/4/2015 12:32 PM, TJ Trout wrote:


350us ?

On Feb 4, 2015 1:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:


Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan
NLOS 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range. Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
.50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling" mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is that $9k and end too?!

-Ty

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Well how about some of this instead?

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!


Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr



From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com "
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

Msrp 9k per end TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Impressive specs will share soon

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Comcast modems

[Brian Meredith]

SB6183 would be my guess:

http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SurfBoard-SB6183-DOCSIS/dp/B00MA5U1FW

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

>  They have a modem that can hit about 12000pps.  Don’t know the model but
> I can check tomorrow.  I think that’s the fastest they have.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyler Treat
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:51 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Comcast modems
>
>
>
> ​What's the best performing Comcast modem that we can buy?
>
> We have a 100m business class service from them for our amenity WIFI and
> they say we're hitting the PPS limits of what they provide and won't
> suggest an alternative.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?  Trying to make our public wifis not run like crap.
>
> ...although i think there's only 1200 iphones on there.
>



-- 
Regards,

Brian Meredith
Chief Technology Officer / Network Administrator
Softcom Internet Communications, Inc.
(209) 744-4234

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Jaime Solorza]

I have had good luck with Rocket 900 s with MDS and other radios in area

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 11:11 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   40 MHz channels
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the stock locater 
but wondered if anyone actually has them
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Reynolds 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC


  AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n


  :: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile



  On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:


100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  TDMA
  PMP
  AC RocketDish
  Airprism active RF front end filter
  450 Mbps
  Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Paul McCall]

That’s good news Matt !  much better !

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 6:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Just to correct something glaringly wrong here…. The 900 MHz PMP 450 product is 
expected to launch in Q4, 2015, with a 5!

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that advertise 
streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to do solely that. 
It's a product designed for the customer with no other good options.

With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor performance of 
satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as another viable option 
aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be big for the company that 
purchased our WISP - especially since the group they are a part of who owns 
their 700MHz spectrum is flirting with selling it to ATT.

Rory McCann

MKAP Technology Solutions

Web: www.mkap.net
On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.

I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or customer 
expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a product.  And 
who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more robustness to 
multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

From: Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Josh Reynolds]

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n
:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie  wrote:100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:



TDMA
PMP
AC RocketDish
Airprism active RF front end filter
450 Mbps
Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Chuck McCown]

Actually they are saying more like 120-130 Mbps to the customer.  
I presume this is normal residential type of thing.  Not sure what happens when 
everyone wants netflix at the same time.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 4:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  TDMA
  PMP
  AC RocketDish
  Airprism active RF front end filter
  450 Mbps
  Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Jason McKemie]

100mbps to individual customers or net? There isn't <75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   TDMA
> PMP
> AC RocketDish
> Airprism active RF front end filter
> 450 Mbps
> Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.
>
>
>

[AFMUG] AF-X + Beehive

[Nate Burke]

When can we see slant feedhorns for beehive dishes?  Any way to re-work 
existing 5ghz feedhorns?

[AFMUG] airmax AC

[Chuck McCown]

TDMA
PMP
AC RocketDish
Airprism active RF front end filter
450 Mbps
Real world capacity >100 Mbps to PMP customers.

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Matt Mangriotis]

Just to correct something glaringly wrong here…. The 900 MHz PMP 450 product is 
expected to launch in Q4, 2015, with a 5!

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that advertise 
streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to do solely that. 
It's a product designed for the customer with no other good options.

With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor performance of 
satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as another viable option 
aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be big for the company that 
purchased our WISP - especially since the group they are a part of who owns 
their 700MHz spectrum is flirting with selling it to ATT.


Rory McCann

MKAP Technology Solutions

Web: www.mkap.net
On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.

I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or customer 
expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a product.  And 
who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more robustness to 
multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

From: Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] Comcast modems

[Rory Conaway]

They have a modem that can hit about 12000pps.  Don’t know the model but I can 
check tomorrow.  I think that’s the fastest they have.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Comcast modems


​What's the best performing Comcast modem that we can buy?

We have a 100m business class service from them for our amenity WIFI and they 
say we're hitting the PPS limits of what they provide and won't suggest an 
alternative.



Any suggestions?  Trying to make our public wifis not run like crap.

...although i think there's only 1200 iphones on there.

[AFMUG] Comcast modems

[Tyler Treat]

?What's the best performing Comcast modem that we can buy?

We have a 100m business class service from them for our amenity WIFI and they 
say we're hitting the PPS limits of what they provide and won't suggest an 
alternative.


Any suggestions?  Trying to make our public wifis not run like crap.

...although i think there's only 1200 iphones on there.

[AFMUG] Airfiber X

[Chuck McCown]

$399.99 per end

Re: [AFMUG] upcoming epmp software changes

[David]

Bwuhahaahah all your sync belong to us.
Playing COD right now LOL

On 02/04/2015 11:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Duh I was thinking association, not sync

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2015 10:04 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


Absolutely.  We've been syncing PMP100 with PMP430 with PMP450. 
They do play together.


bp


On 2/4/2015 9:02 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

450 definitely syncs with pmp100.


The 450 couldn't so I doubt it.

Wifi modes been on the SM since at least 2.3

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2015 9:59 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
wrote:

in future upgrades.epmp will sync with pmp100 radios.
it was said!  it will happen!  right? :)

- Original Message -
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:56 AM
*Subject:* upcoming epmp software changes

biggest think i sawupcoming wifi mode to make
"forklift upgrades" easier.
maybe this is old news...

Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

[David]

I think he is trying to say there would be issues if one is a master and 
the other is a slave on the tower.


Its a common rule here once a slave always a slave or master do not mix 
and match or issues could ensue.


On 02/04/2015 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Not sure what your problems would be.  Unless they're getting at the 
whole which one is my master thing.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2015 10:16 AM, "Ryan Mano" > wrote:


Not sure I run 1 ptp 600 at 5.8 and 2x ptp230’s at 5.8 no problems
so far but I just need more bandwidth on the other links

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Ryan Mano" mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is
not possible because it can cause problems

It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave
master on the 1 tower is this true?

thanks

Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

[That One Guy]

well I was happier than a pig in  with it, we did get a router for the
course though so that was good with the physical router in hand

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Butch Evans  wrote:

> On 02/01/2015 10:08 AM, That One Guy wrote:
>
>> The Imagestream course you did was like 5 days online, I thought it was
>> really good format, is there a reason to not do it online for a full class
>>
>
> This is a very good question.  There are a couple of reasons for this. The
> first, and most important, reason is that the satisfaction from customers
> is not as high as I would like.  In my live and in person trainings, those
> who have returned satisfaction surveys show about 98% satisfaction with the
> events (facility + instructor + materials).  For the online, when I did
> them before for more than just the one day courses, the satisfaction with
> materials + instructor remains high, but the online format is only rated at
> around 80% satisfaction.  For the one day classes, it is around 88%.  For
> me, that is WAY to low.  There are 3 things that people dislike about the
> online classes (primarily):
>
> 1. Labs - While they labs are similar to the live classes, people do not
> seem to get as much out of the courses, if they do not have the physical
> gear in front of them.
>
> 2. Interruptions - These have little to do with me, but when people are in
> the office, they get interrupted.
>
> 3. Webinar Software - It is simply a fact, that ALL online meeting places
> have some drawbacks.  Some are better in some areas than others and finding
> one that fills ALL needs is nearly impossible.
>
> For myself, it is MUCH more difficult to control and manage the classroom
> with online trainings.  I can deal with one and maybe two day events, but I
> doubt I will ever offer another 5 day training online.  It is too stressful
> for me to do, especially knowing that people will not be as happy with my
> service as I like.
>
>
>
> --
> Butch Evans
> 702-537-0979
> Network Support and Engineering
> http://store.wispgear.net/
> http://www.butchevans.com/
>



-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[David]

Right! wouldnt be cool if it was a licensed 900 though :)

On 02/04/2015 11:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It 
seems like another sailed ship.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Steve D" 
*To: *"af" 
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

[Butch Evans]

On 02/01/2015 10:08 AM, That One Guy wrote:

The Imagestream course you did was like 5 days online, I thought it was
really good format, is there a reason to not do it online for a full class


This is a very good question.  There are a couple of reasons for this. 
The first, and most important, reason is that the satisfaction from 
customers is not as high as I would like.  In my live and in person 
trainings, those who have returned satisfaction surveys show about 98% 
satisfaction with the events (facility + instructor + materials).  For 
the online, when I did them before for more than just the one day 
courses, the satisfaction with materials + instructor remains high, but 
the online format is only rated at around 80% satisfaction.  For the one 
day classes, it is around 88%.  For me, that is WAY to low.  There are 3 
things that people dislike about the online classes (primarily):


1. Labs - While they labs are similar to the live classes, people do not 
seem to get as much out of the courses, if they do not have the physical 
gear in front of them.


2. Interruptions - These have little to do with me, but when people are 
in the office, they get interrupted.


3. Webinar Software - It is simply a fact, that ALL online meeting 
places have some drawbacks.  Some are better in some areas than others 
and finding one that fills ALL needs is nearly impossible.


For myself, it is MUCH more difficult to control and manage the 
classroom with online trainings.  I can deal with one and maybe two day 
events, but I doubt I will ever offer another 5 day training online.  It 
is too stressful for me to do, especially knowing that people will not 
be as happy with my service as I like.



--
Butch Evans
702-537-0979
Network Support and Engineering
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

these guys had some really cool stuff
http://www.rajant.com/

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Looks rugged.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 3:03 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" 
> wrote:
>
>>  Is it a phased array antenna inside?  Betting it is.
>>
>> Beam forming/phased array stuff from military radars (example, the
>> Ku/Ka-band aircraft mounted VSAT terminals made by an Israeli company whose
>> name I can't recall right now).
>>
>> Plus a lot of beefy FPGAs for signal processing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/15 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> 8 mimo antennas FDD ..works on support cables..swaying!!  2 radios on all
>> times..22 core processor..IP67 connectors.. self aligning
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 2:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS
>>> 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
>>> .50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is that $9k and end too?!

  -Ty

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well how about some of this instead?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>   On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
>>   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!
>>
>>
>>  Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>   From: Jaime Solorza 
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback
>>
>>   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Impressive specs will share soon
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

Looks rugged.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 3:03 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

>  Is it a phased array antenna inside?  Betting it is.
>
> Beam forming/phased array stuff from military radars (example, the
> Ku/Ka-band aircraft mounted VSAT terminals made by an Israeli company whose
> name I can't recall right now).
>
> Plus a lot of beefy FPGAs for signal processing.
>
>
>
> On 2/4/15 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> 8 mimo antennas FDD ..works on support cables..swaying!!  2 radios on all
> times..22 core processor..IP67 connectors.. self aligning
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 2:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS
>> 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
>> .50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>>
>>> Is that $9k and end too?!
>>>
>>>  -Ty
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
 Well how about some of this instead?

 Jaime Solorza
   On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>   From: Jaime Solorza 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback
>
>   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Impressive specs will share soon
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Eric Kuhnke]

  
  
Is it a phased array antenna inside? 
  Betting it is.
  
  Beam forming/phased array stuff from military radars (example, the
  Ku/Ka-band aircraft mounted VSAT terminals made by an Israeli
  company whose name I can't recall right now).
  
  Plus a lot of beefy FPGAs for signal processing.
  
  
  
  On 2/4/15 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


  8 mimo antennas FDD ..works on support
cables..swaying!!  2 radios on all times..22 core
processor..IP67 connectors.. self aligning 
  Jaime Solorza
  On Feb 4, 2015 2:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

wrote:

  Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed
in Manhattan NLOS 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range. 
Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
.50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!  
  Jaime Solorza
  On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty
Featherling" 
wrote:

  Is that $9k and end too?! 


-Ty
  
  
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM,
  Jaime Solorza 
  wrote:
  
Well how about some of this instead?

Jaime Solorza
  

  
On Feb 4, 2015 12:36
  PM, "Gino Villarini" 
  wrote:
  

  

  Lol!!! I want some of that stuff
they are smoking! 
  




Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband
  Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
    
@aeronetpr




  

  
  
  
  

  From: Jaime
  Solorza 
  Reply-To:
  "af@afmug.com"
  
  Date: Wednesday,
  February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com"
  
  Subject:
  Re: [AFMUG] Fastback




  
Msrp 9k per end 
  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4,
  2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
  
  wrote:
  
Impressive specs
  will share soon
Jaime Solorza
  

  

  

  

  

  


  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

8 mimo antennas FDD ..works on support cables..swaying!!  2 radios on all
times..22 core processor..IP67 connectors.. self aligning

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 2:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS
> 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
> .50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>
>> Is that $9k and end too?!
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well how about some of this instead?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>>
   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!


  Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



   From: Jaime Solorza 
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE

 Jaime Solorza
 On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

> Impressive specs will share soon
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[TJ Trout]

350us ?
On Feb 4, 2015 1:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS
> 800MBps 350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
> .50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>
>> Is that $9k and end too?!
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well how about some of this instead?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>>
   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!


  Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



   From: Jaime Solorza 
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE

 Jaime Solorza
 On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

> Impressive specs will share soon
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep 9k,  msrp per side.  Several hundred deployed in Manhattan NLOS 800MBps
350ms latency.7  mile range.  Fiber port. Poe. Switch port
.50 employees. 36 are engineers!!!

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:

> Is that $9k and end too?!
>
> -Ty
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Well how about some of this instead?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>
>>>   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!
>>>
>>>
>>>  Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   From: Jaime Solorza 
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback
>>>
>>>   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Impressive specs will share soon

 Jaime Solorza

>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work

[Caleb Knauer]

Got a set of Greenlee 683.  Kinda beefy but we are running some larger
spools lately.  Pretty sturdy setup.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> That company’s name is probably holding them back.  Also probably lots of
> people looking for violins and tubas going WTF?
>
> From: Chris Herrington
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:25 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work
>
>
> I have been handling cable for 30 years, and find that the carriers I get
> from this company are the best.
>
>
>
> http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=13
>
> http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=14
>
>
>
> I am actually surprised that they have not broken into distribution, and
> seem to focus on just one industry, but these are great sturdy products.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSP&WD Specialist
>
> FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440
>
> Cell 714-309-8714
>
> ch...@fsc.com
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:37 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work
>
>
>
> We had these made before I was here
>
> On Jan 23, 2015 4:13 PM, "Caleb Knauer"  wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for a cable reel stand for spooling cable/coax out on
> a tower run?  Our improvised methods need updating, and my google-fu
> is weak and I'm only finding either junk or stuff that's way too
> expensive.   Think a pair of jack stands with a rod between them but
> nicer and with less falling over.

Re: [AFMUG] The farm is alive

[Jaime Solorza]

Funny..

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 11:00 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   I saw him taking a high level meeting with the Mimosa guys...
>
>  *From:* Ben Moore 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The farm is alive
>
>  Treat him well please! ;)  We need him back in Chicago in one piece ;)
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> he likes to sit in the backso he can escape quickly
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Chuck McCown 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:12 AM
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] The farm is alive
>>
>> Anyone know who this guy is?
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Ty Featherling]

Is that $9k and end too?!

-Ty

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Well how about some of this instead?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 4, 2015 12:36 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
>>   Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!
>>
>>
>>  Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>   From: Jaime Solorza 
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback
>>
>>   Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Impressive specs will share soon
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Rory McCann]

That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that 
advertise streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to 
do solely that. It's a product designed for the customer with no other 
good options.


With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor 
performance of satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as 
another viable option aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be 
big for the company that purchased our WISP - especially since the group 
they are a part of who owns their 700MHz spectrum is flirting with 
selling it to ATT.


Rory McCann
MKAP Technology Solutions
Web: www.mkap.net

On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees 
and 900 MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base 
doesn’t need to stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK 
will give them.  Via wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.
I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or 
customer expectations, but some people consistently say they want such 
a product.  And who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe 
more robustness to multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

*From:* Andy Trimmell 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 
customer to it because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

*From:*Chuck McCown 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

*From:*Chuck McCown 

*Sent:*Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*[AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Jon Langeler]

any good whitespace options that don't cost a million $$ yet?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
> 
> Its just waiting until late next year is terrible.  We actually have lost a 
> couple to satellite that could only get 900Mhz now.  Every 900 mhz customer 
> we have is vulnerable.
>  
> Cambium.   PLEASE move up the timeline !
>  
> J
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>  
> In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
> MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
> stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
> wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.
>  
> I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or 
> customer expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a 
> product.  And who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more 
> robustness to multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.
>  
> From: Andy Trimmell
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>  
> 40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
> because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>  
> Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps
>  
> Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm
>  
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>  
> 3x throughput increase
>  
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>  
> 40 MHz channels
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Gino Villarini]

Lol!!! I want some of that stuff they are smoking!


Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fastback


Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Impressive specs will share soon

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Jaime Solorza]

Msrp 9k per end  TESSCO has stock.  EL DUDE

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 4, 2015 12:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Impressive specs will share soon
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Gino Villarini]

Compared to? TVWS and 3.65 LTE?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: That One Guy mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

450 isnt cheap as it is, has anybody asked what the percentage will be in 
difference for the 900 variant?

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Rory Conaway 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I can see a lot of value for it in many environments.  This is a big country.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems like 
another sailed ship.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Steve D" mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)







--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

[AFMUG] ISP/Cable Company for sale

[Barry Sherwood]

Hi everyone.  After 20 acquisitions of our own over the past 20 years, my wife 
and I have decided to sell our company, which is comprised of wireless, DSL, 
web/email hosting, VoIP, colocation, and dialup customers that are primarily in 
Nevada and California.  We also own a cable TV network, which can be included 
or sold separately.  If you are interested, or know someone who is, contact me 
off list or find me at the show.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone,

-- Barry

Re: [AFMUG] Fastback

[Gino Villarini]

Price, dude, Price!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:12 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Fastback


Impressive specs will share soon

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[That One Guy]

450 isnt cheap as it is, has anybody asked what the percentage will be in
difference for the 900 variant?

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

>  I can see a lot of value for it in many environments.  This is a big
> country.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:06 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
>
>
>
> Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems
> like another sailed ship.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>  --
>
> *From: *"Steve D" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
>
> Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...
>
>
>
> Late 2016 IIRC...
>
>
>
> -Steve D
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Ken Hohhof]

> Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS.

Do you have personal experience with either or both of these?


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Both options I mentioned do sync.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:00:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

 

yesand that would have been great back then.but now we MUST have more 
than one radio on a tower to survivethus gps sync


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

  When 900 first came out, I was a beta tester.  My first suggestion was to 
give us a 1 channel option that used the whole band.  That would have enabled 
the same throughput as the other FSK products...

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:42 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

  People probably asked for it 4 years ago when it would have been relevant 
too. I guess there are the Cambium blind, though.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:22:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming



  cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver.


- Original Message - 
From: Gino Villarini 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Price? 



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com   
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems 
like another sailed ship.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "Steve D" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Mike Hammett]

Both options I mentioned do sync. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:00:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 

 

yesand that would have been great back then.but now we MUST have more 
than one radio on a tower to survivethus gps sync 




- Original Message - 
From: Chuck McCown 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 




When 900 first came out, I was a beta tester. My first suggestion was to give 
us a 1 channel option that used the whole band. That would have enabled the 
same throughput as the other FSK products... 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:42 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 


People probably asked for it 4 years ago when it would have been relevant too. 
I guess there are the Cambium blind, though. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:22:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 



cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver. 




- Original Message - 
From: Gino Villarini 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 



Price? 




Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr 



From: Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 




Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems like 
another sailed ship. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Steve D" < bigd...@gmail.com > 
To: "af" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 


Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 

Late 2016 IIRC... 

-Steve D 


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
wrote: 





i saw it on a linkplanner slide :) 

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Paul McCall]

Its just waiting until late next year is terrible.  We actually have lost a 
couple to satellite that could only get 900Mhz now.  Every 900 mhz customer we 
have is vulnerable.

Cambium.   PLEASE move up the timeline !

☺

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.

I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or customer 
expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a product.  And 
who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more robustness to 
multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

From: Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Ken Hohhof]

In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees and 900 
MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t need to 
stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give them.  Via 
wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.

I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or customer 
expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a product.  And 
who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more robustness to 
multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.

From: Andy Trimmell 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

 

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

3x throughput increase

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

40 MHz channels

 

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Rory Conaway]

I can see a lot of value for it in many environments.  This is a big country.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems like 
another sailed ship.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Steve D" mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Matt]

> Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems
> like another sailed ship.

There might be more demand outside USA.  In our area our 900 band has
been clobbered by wireless power meters.

>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> From: "Steve D" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
>
>
> Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...
>
> Late 2016 IIRC...
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

yesand that would have been great back then.but now we MUST have more 
than one radio on a tower to survivethus gps sync


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


  When 900 first came out, I was a beta tester.  My first suggestion was to 
give us a 1 channel option that used the whole band.  That would have enabled 
the same throughput as the other FSK products...

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:42 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

  People probably asked for it 4 years ago when it would have been relevant 
too. I guess there are the Cambium blind, though.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:22:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming



  cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver.


- Original Message - 
From: Gino Villarini 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Price? 



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com   
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems 
like another sailed ship.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "Steve D" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Chuck McCown]

And that will be a very happy customer.

From: Andy Trimmell 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

 

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

3x throughput increase

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

40 MHz channels

 

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Andy Trimmell]

40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer to it 
because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

 

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

 

From: Chuck McCown   

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

3x throughput increase

 

From: Chuck McCown   

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

 

40 MHz channels

 

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Chuck McCown]

Mbps, not MHz...

From: That One Guy 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

haha balls, i got 40mhz of clean 900 in my shoe

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  Yes I do.

  :-((


bp


On 2/4/2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps

Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

3x throughput increase

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels







-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Chuck McCown]

When 900 first came out, I was a beta tester.  My first suggestion was to give 
us a 1 channel option that used the whole band.  That would have enabled the 
same throughput as the other FSK products...

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

People probably asked for it 4 years ago when it would have been relevant too. 
I guess there are the Cambium blind, though.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming



cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gino Villarini 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

  Price? 



  Gino A. Villarini
  President
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  www.aeronetpr.com   
  @aeronetpr



  From: Mike Hammett 
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


  Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems 
like another sailed ship.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Steve D" 
  To: "af" 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


  Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 

  Late 2016 IIRC...

  -Steve D

  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[That One Guy]

haha balls, i got 40mhz of clean 900 in my shoe

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  Yes I do.
>
> :-((
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/4/2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>  Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps
>
> Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm
>
>  *From:* Chuck McCown 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
>   3x throughput increase
>
>  *From:* Chuck McCown 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
>
>   40 MHz channels
>
>
>
>


-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Mike Hammett]

People probably asked for it 4 years ago when it would have been relevant too. 
I guess there are the Cambium blind, though. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:22:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 



cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver. 




- Original Message - 
From: Gino Villarini 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 




Price? 







Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr 






From: Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 





Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems like 
another sailed ship. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Steve D" < bigd...@gmail.com > 
To: "af" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming 


Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 


Late 2016 IIRC... 


-Steve D 


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
wrote: 





i saw it on a linkplanner slide :) 

Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's

[Josh Reynolds]

M elk.
:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:





Mine too, but we only got to eat the culls from the herd.  That was 
after the venison was gone and elk (assuming we were lucky to have elk that 
year).  I was raised on stringy nasty pan fried steak.  


 

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
 

My 
family has about 30 cattle. We have better steak than most anywhere.  
;-)That said, I've eaten at Brazilian steakhosues (I go about 3 - 4 
times per year), just never heard of those ones.
-Mike HammettIntelligent 
Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com


From: 
"CBB - Jay Fuller" To: 
af@afmug.comSent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:49:05 
AMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's 


 
mike lives a sheltered life.never heard of 
steak.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike 
  Hammett 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
   
  I 
  had never heard of either before the AFMUG crowd.
  -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing 
  Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
  

  From: 
  "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.comSent: 
  Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:50:55 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] 
  Rodizio's
  Personally I prefer Rodizo.  Regardless of price.  I'm 
  not a huge fan of steak and food taste/quality dominates all my decision 
  material.
  Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 
  937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373
  On Feb 3, 2015 7:47 PM, "Jason McKemie"  wrote:
  That 
should be an easy call, they've only got Ruths Chris's, 
uheverywhere.On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Paul McCall  
wrote:
uh 
  oh !  We have a split decision brewing... some are going OFDM and 
  some are going Wimax.-Original Message-From: Af 
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig HouseSent: 
  Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:42 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: 
  [AFMUG] Rodizio'sRuth's Cris is too rich for my credit card 
  limit.  I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7.  Staring at ramada 
  also but will take the tram probablySent from my 
iPhone
   
 

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Josh Luthman]

Option66 enable zero touch config.  Enable installer mode on the ap, new sm
associates, grabs config and done.

Powercode is working on this for their DHCP server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:25 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   What was that DHCP  option66?
>
>  *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] release 13.3
>
>
> hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Josh Luthman]

I asked for that my first AF ages ago

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:23 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Bill Prince]

yup. Think it will be 13.3.1?

bp


On 2/4/2015 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I think they said it is fixed in the March release.
*From:* Bill Prince 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3
yeh.� We've known about that for a few months now.

Only problem with 13.3 is that the alignment tone is inop.

Right George?

bp


On 2/4/2015 9:23 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
hey bill prince!� they're giving you your txt config file!!
�
�

Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

[Josh Luthman]

Not sure what your problems would be.  Unless they're getting at the whole
which one is my master thing.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:16 AM, "Ryan Mano"  wrote:

>  Not sure I run 1 ptp 600 at 5.8 and 2x ptp230’s at 5.8 no problems so
> far but I just need more bandwidth on the other links
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup
>
>
>
> That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Ryan Mano"  wrote:
>
>  I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not
> possible because it can cause problems
>
>
>
> It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the
> 1 tower is this true?
>
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Chuck McCown]

I think they said it is fixed in the March release.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

yeh.� We've known about that for a few months now.

Only problem with 13.3 is that the alignment tone is inop.

Right George?


bp


On 2/4/2015 9:23 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

  �
  hey bill prince!� they're giving you your txt config file!!
  �
  �

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Bill Prince]

yeh.  We've known about that for a few months now.

Only problem with 13.3 is that the alignment tone is inop.

Right George?

bp


On 2/4/2015 9:23 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Bill Prince]

if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

bp


On 2/4/2015 9:18 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Price?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It 
seems like another sailed ship.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Steve D" mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3

[Chuck McCown]

What was that DHCP  option66?

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] release 13.3


hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!

[AFMUG] release 13.3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

hey bill prince!  they're giving you your txt config file!!

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

cause ppl asked for it at wispapaloosa.and they are gonna deliver.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gino Villarini 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


  Price? 






  Gino A. Villarini
  President
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  www.aeronetpr.com   
  @aeronetpr






  From: Mike Hammett 
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming



  Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems 
like another sailed ship.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Steve D" 
  To: "af" 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming


  Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday... 


  Late 2016 IIRC...


  -Steve D


  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Gino Villarini]

Price?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems like 
another sailed ship.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Steve D" mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming

Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

[Gino Villarini]

No issues, we have sites with 5-6 ptp600s… in case its needed you can gps sync 
them



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup


That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Ryan Mano" 
mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:
I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not possible 
because it can cause problems

It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the 1 
tower is this true?

thanks

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

12 megfor those 10 meg netflix streams

HEY!  i'm excited. :)

i hope they bring me the first one.gold plated.
 :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450


  256qam whaat!

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

3x throughput increase

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450

40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....

[Bill Prince]

Yes I do.

:-((

bp


On 2/4/2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps
Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm
*From:* Chuck McCown 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
3x throughput increase
*From:* Chuck McCown 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450
40 MHz channels

Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

[Ryan Mano]

Not sure I run 1 ptp 600 at 5.8 and 2x ptp230’s at 5.8 no problems so far but I 
just need more bandwidth on the other links


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup


That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Ryan Mano" 
mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:
I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not possible 
because it can cause problems

It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the 1 
tower is this true?

thanks

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Jason McKemie]

Agreed.

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Why even bother at this point? Telrad LTE in 3.65, Wimax in TVWS. It seems
> like another sailed ship.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Steve D"  >
> *To: *"af" >
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:55:01 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.900 mhz 450 coming
>
> Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...
>
> Late 2016 IIRC...
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup

[Josh Luthman]

That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, "Ryan Mano"  wrote:

>  I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not
> possible because it can cause problems
>
>
>
> It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the
> 1 tower is this true?
>
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>