Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
That's obviously +48 though

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 9:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 So, why not say 48 VDC and leave it at that?  If you add a polarity then
 you also imply ground reference.

 -Original Message- From: Daniel White
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:13 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

 I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground.

 We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other
 radios are -48VDC only).

 ***
 Daniel White - Managing Director
 SAF North America LLC
 Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
 Skype: danieldwhite
 Social: LinkedIn

 ***

  -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

 I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet
 says
 -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.



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Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

2015-04-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
My experience says anything over 30%is a possible issue.
On Apr 28, 2015 11:59 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au
wrote:

 Hi Guys



 I’m trying to find the slow point in part of my network.

 I have a rb2011 that has 70% cpu, to me that says I have room left.

 But could cpu that high be slowing me down?

 Space is a issue to replace it.



 Thanks



 Rhys





Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

2015-04-29 Thread Stefan Englhardt
70% is an average value. As Network traffic peaks/bursts you might be out

of cpu for small portions of time and get packet loss/delays.



RB2011 is not realy fast for routing. Using the internal Switch you can switch 
1GB but

as router it is much less. With 64byte packets you end up below 100M.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. April 2015 14:10
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik



That's super high IMO.  Are you graphing it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 29, 2015 12:59 AM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
mailto:r...@latrobeit.com.au  wrote:

Hi Guys



I’m trying to find the slow point in part of my network.

I have a rb2011 that has 70% cpu, to me that says I have room left.

But could cpu that high be slowing me down?

Space is a issue to replace it.



Thanks



Rhys







Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

2015-04-29 Thread Daniel White
I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground.

We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other radios 
are -48VDC only).

***
Daniel White - Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn

***

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

 I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says
 -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.


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Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

2015-04-29 Thread Erich Kaiser
Throw a 850Gx2 in some of the places you need more horsepower and use that
for backhauls only (No queues or firewall rules).


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

 Hi Guys



 I’m trying to find the slow point in part of my network.

 I have a rb2011 that has 70% cpu, to me that says I have room left.

 But could cpu that high be slowing me down?

 Space is a issue to replace it.



 Thanks



 Rhys





Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

2015-04-29 Thread Chuck McCown
So, why not say 48 VDC and leave it at that?  If you add a polarity then 
you also imply ground reference.


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel White

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground.

We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other radios 
are -48VDC only).


***
Daniel White - Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn

***


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet 
says

-48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.



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Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
That's super high IMO.  Are you graphing it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 12:59 AM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au
wrote:

 Hi Guys



 I’m trying to find the slow point in part of my network.

 I have a rb2011 that has 70% cpu, to me that says I have room left.

 But could cpu that high be slowing me down?

 Space is a issue to replace it.



 Thanks



 Rhys





Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Mike Hammett
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! 


Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small dipoles, 
so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit. 
-- Forwarded message -- 
From:  FCCID.NET   i...@fccid.net  
Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM 
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! 
To:  cstann...@gmail.com  
Cc: 
 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.! 
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - Digital 
 Transmission System). 
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be found at 
 http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141 
 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :) 
 
 Cheers, 
 FCCID.NET 
 


Re: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
On the AP's bridge table you will see all MACs with their associated LUIDs.
You will see one or two of the SM's MAC as well as any MACs seen through
that radio. Alternately you can look at the individual SM's bridge table
and see the same per-radio.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router
 connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who
 has several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the
 mac's of the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and
 throttle at the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users,
 but with NO information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it is
 proving difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the connected
 device on the lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site visit or a
 phone call to that many customers.

 Thanks,

 Cameron



Re: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Cameron Crum
I have no control over the networks so 82 wouldn't be an option. I'll take
a look at an SM and see if I can get what I need from the bridging table.
Thanks!

Cameron

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Bridging table of the SM, assuming it is not doing NAT in the SM.  I
 have only done it from the GUI, not sure if it can be done via SNMP.

 Probably would be better to do option 82 then could use MAC address of SM.

  *From:* Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:18 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

  Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router
 connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who
 has several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the
 mac's of the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and
 throttle at the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users,
 but with NO information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it is
 proving difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the connected
 device on the lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site visit or a
 phone call to that many customers.

 Thanks,

 Cameron



Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd use Radio Mobile and crap, I forgot what other tools I used. Sam Tetherow 
recommended a couple GDAL tools a week or two ago. Maybe I used GDAL, maybe I 
used some other GIS tools I have. 

http://beta.ics-il.com/coverage.html 

I'm thinking about adding some more things to the KML like tower locations, 
friendly fiber routes, etc. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: Graham McIntire gra...@vntx.net 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:18:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website 




Ty, 

What did you use to generate the service coverage area with Google maps? 

Graham 




On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ty Featherling  tyfeatherl...@gmail.com  
wrote: 



After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy at 
web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live with 
the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please check it out 
and let me know if you see anything of concern. 


www.zeecon.com 



-Ty 





Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
We drew it by hand in Google Maps by tracing an overlaid picture of another
coverage map we have. It really turned out great. I love how large it is.
The search/pin function he programmed himself around the Maps API. It also
saves that address and the result so that we can review what locations
people are searching for and where we can possible grow into.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 that is a nice looking coverage map

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Graham McIntire gra...@vntx.net wrote:

 Ty,

 What did you use to generate the service coverage area with Google maps?

 Graham


 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy
 at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live
 with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please
 check it out and let me know if you see anything of concern.

 www.zeecon.com

 -Ty





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Paul Stewart
“You are not authorized to access this page.”

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

 

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



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From: Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small dipoles, 
so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET  i...@fccid.net mailto:i...@fccid.net 
Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com 
Cc: 

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - Digital 
 Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be found at 
 http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015 
 http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141 id=831141 
 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :) 

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET  


 



Re: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Tyler Treat
bridging table?


From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router 
connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who has 
several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the mac's of 
the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and throttle at 
the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users, but with NO 
information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it is proving 
difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the connected device on the 
lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site visit or a phone call to that 
many customers.

Thanks,

Cameron


[AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Cameron Crum
Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router
connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who
has several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the
mac's of the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and
throttle at the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users,
but with NO information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it is
proving difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the connected
device on the lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site visit or a
phone call to that many customers.

Thanks,

Cameron


Re: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Bridging table of the SM, assuming it is not doing NAT in the SM.  I have only 
done it from the GUI, not sure if it can be done via SNMP.

Probably would be better to do option 82 then could use MAC address of SM.

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router 
connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who has 
several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the mac's of 
the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and throttle at 
the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users, but with NO 
information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it is proving 
difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the connected device on the 
lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site visit or a phone call to that 
many customers. 

Thanks,

Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Imgur!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they
 need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty





Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Gino Villarini
I think it's the new pmp450 form factor

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini



On Apr 29, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Colin Stanners 
cstann...@gmail.commailto:cstann...@gmail.com wrote:


Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small dipoles, 
so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NEThttp://FCCID.NET i...@fccid.netmailto:i...@fccid.net
Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.commailto:cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - Digital 
 Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be found at 
 http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NEThttp://FCCID.NET



[AFMUG] Ask the ePMP team anything

2015-04-29 Thread Ray Savich
The ePMP development team is online now at the Cambium Community ready to 
respond to any questions that you may have. 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/ePMP-Applications-Ask-the-Experts/m-p/40120#U40120

Be there.  Aloha.

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forumhttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/



Re: [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device

2015-04-29 Thread Larry Smith
SNMP:  enterprises.161.19.3.3.4.1.1

is the bridging table for both AP and SM's (at least on 13.1.3)

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed April 29 2015 11:45, Cameron Crum wrote:
 I have no control over the networks so 82 wouldn't be an option. I'll take
 a look at an SM and see if I can get what I need from the bridging table.
 Thanks!

 Cameron

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Bridging table of the SM, assuming it is not doing NAT in the SM.  I
  have only done it from the GUI, not sure if it can be done via SNMP.
 
  Probably would be better to do option 82 then could use MAC address of
  SM.
 
   *From:* Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:18 AM
  *To:* af@afmug.com
  *Subject:* [AFMUG] obtaining mac of connected device
 
   Does anyone have a quick way to determine the mac of a customer's router
  connected to the lan port of a Canopy/Cambium SM? I have a new client who
  has several hundred SM's running in bridge mode, but never collected the
  mac's of the end user devices. They hand out random public's via dhcp and
  throttle at the SM. They would like to start redirecting suspended users,
  but with NO information on either the ip or the mac of the end user, it
  is proving difficult. If there is a way to obtain the mac of the
  connected device on the lan side, it would be a lot easier than a site
  visit or a phone call to that many customers.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Cameron


[AFMUG] Rocket AC5 Lite question

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can't find where to hide SSID on these?   Ideas?
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Bill Prince

New ePMP form factor. Connectorized.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:





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*From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

“You are not authorized to access this page.”

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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*From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com 
mailto:cstann...@gmail.com

*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small 
dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.


-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net 
mailto:i...@fccid.net

Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - 
Digital Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be 
found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141

 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET







Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Sean Heskett
you need up tilt so that it can bounce the connection off the satellite.

isn't that how all wireless works?!?!

/sarcasm

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link.
 Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they
 need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty



Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Sean Heskett
there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on
the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty






Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
It doesn't look like it will be up that long mounted on that pole. The
first stiff breeze outhgt to knock it over.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty






Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link.
 Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they
 need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty




Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on
 the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty







Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
hum..DTS?  That's the description for FHSS higher speed modulation on
902-928 MHz radios for SCADA applications

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!


 Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small
 dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net
 Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
 To: cstann...@gmail.com
 Cc:

  A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
  It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS -
 Digital Transmission System).
  Full details on this application and possible product images can be
 found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
  If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)
 
  Cheers,
  FCCID.NET
 




Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC5 Lite question

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Advanced tab iirc

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can't find where to hide SSID on these?   Ideas?
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread David

Possible replacement for the bullet.. Go Cambium :)


On 04/29/2015 12:51 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

New ePMP form factor. Connectorized.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:





-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com

https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix

*From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks 
inc.!


“You are not authorized to access this page.”

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks 
inc.!


https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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http://www.midwest-ix.com

https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix



*From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com 
mailto:cstann...@gmail.com

*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small 
dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.


-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net 
mailto:i...@fccid.net

Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS 
- Digital Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be 
found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141

 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET









Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

did all of this in his first week, right? :)
where did he work before you hired him?
sounds like a real find!
um, wow, this is an old thread ya'll have revived.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ty Featherling 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 3:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website


  Me too. He has also created a bunch of printable guides and other literature 
for us. You can find all of that under printable resources. Good stuff.


  -Ty


  On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:08 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

LIKE!

Love the customer support area :)



On 04/10/2015 02:23 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

  After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy 
at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live 
with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please check 
it out and let me know if you see anything of concern. 


  www.zeecon.com



  -Ty





[AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link.
Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
difference in elevation.

I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they
need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

-Ty


Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty





Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread David

Its all good its just ubiquity stuff LOL

I really like their HF telephone pole they have

On 04/29/2015 01:33 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Imgur!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
hold...

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

No picture

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

Look what our local police department just had put up
for a 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that
second radio. There is less than 40ft difference in
elevation.

I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the
channel width they need and sane power levels, right?
Right? Nothing to worry about.

-Ty







Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
No picture

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link.
 Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they
 need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty



Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Tushar Patel
So ePMP in pmp450 form factor?

Actually it will make more sense for reflector dishes stand point for sure.

Tushar


 On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
 I think it's the new pmp450 form factor 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 @gvillarini
 
 
 
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small 
 dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net
 Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
 To: cstann...@gmail.com
 Cc:
 
  A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
  It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - 
  Digital Transmission System).
  Full details on this application and possible product images can be found 
  at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141 
  If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :) 
 
  Cheers,
  FCCID.NET 
 


Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
In his first few months, yes.  He's not perfect by any stretch but he is
very handy to have around.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 did all of this in his first week, right? :)
 where did he work before you hired him?
 sounds like a real find!
 um, wow, this is an old thread ya'll have revived.


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2015 3:18 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

 Me too. He has also created a bunch of printable guides and other
 literature for us. You can find all of that under printable resources. Good
 stuff.

 -Ty

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:08 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

 LIKE!

 Love the customer support area :)


 On 04/10/2015 02:23 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

 After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy
 at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live
 with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please
 check it out and let me know if you see anything of concern.

 www.zeecon.com

 -Ty






Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Is it 802.11n or 802.11ac?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

New ePMP form factor. Connectorized.




bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.orgmailto:p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
“You are not authorized to access this page.”

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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From: Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.commailto:cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small dipoles, 
so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NEThttp://FCCID.NET i...@fccid.netmailto:i...@fccid.net
Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.commailto:cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - Digital 
 Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be found at 
 http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NEThttp://FCCID.NET






Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
there you go..a business opportunity

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Oh don't get me wrong at all Jaime, I don't have any problem with them
 using the band. I just pray they use it responsibly which, according to
 what I can see on the installation of these units, is not likely. Good news
 is I have a meeting with a Captain soon about a water tower we are building
 out and I intend to find out who to talk to about those radios. Might be
 able to offer some services in the name of making sure they play nice.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever
 they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much
 many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn
 they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you
 maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise
 border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about
 non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands.
 I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in
 the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
 hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

I think this will be the Force 200.

On 4/29/2015 2:02 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:


Interesting .. thanks…

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com

https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix



*From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org 
mailto:p...@paulstewart.org

*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

“You are not authorized to access this page.”

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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*From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com 
mailto:cstann...@gmail.com

*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small 
dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.


-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net 
mailto:i...@fccid.net

Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - 
Digital Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be 
found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141

 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NET http://FCCID.NET






Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I have no problem using the spectrum either. I will never complain about the 
use of it. However, I will complain about the irresponsible use of it. Vivint 
Wireless just moved into my area and killed the spectrum. I can barely sell a 5 
Mb plan much less 20 because of all the noise.

With that said, I am completely abandoning the 5GHz realm to avoid these 
issues. There are so many options now that I see no reason to just let Vivint 
have that space. I will be able to offer much higher speeds then them now 
anyway. 

Speaking of Vivint, anyone know how many areas they are in now?

They took one of my customers and made it a hub home. That customer called me 
back within 3 weeks telling me that are in contract with them but still wanted 
me to reinstall my internet because it was faster. They were on a 15Mb plan. 
But because of all the noise I couldn't get them 1Mb. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever they 
 want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much many 
 WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn they 
 opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you maybe you 
 are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise border towns 
 like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about non Wisps using 
 these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900 recently on mtn 
 and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service the area and moved 
 on. 
 
 Jaime Solorza
 
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I 
 know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the 
 long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.
 
 -Ty
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:
 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on 
 the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg
 
 -Ty
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Imgur!
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...
 
 -Ty
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 No picture
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile 
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 
 40ft difference in elevation.
 
 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width 
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.
 
 -Ty
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
 part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I
know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the
long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on
 the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty








-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
802.11a, runs token ring and uses coax. Its their retro model

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  Is it 802.11n or 802.11ac?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:51 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!



 New ePMP form factor. Connectorized.



  bp

 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com



  On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:





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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
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 *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org p...@paulstewart.org
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

 “You are not authorized to access this page.”



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!



 https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
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 *From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

 Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small
 dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net
 Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
 To: cstann...@gmail.com
 Cc:

  A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
  It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS -
 Digital Transmission System).
  Full details on this application and possible product images can be
 found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
  If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)
 
  Cheers,
  FCCID.NET
 










-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever they
want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much many
WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn they
opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you maybe
you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise border
towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about non
Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
the area and moved on.

Jaime Solorza
On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I
 know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the
 long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on
 the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 
 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Ty Featherling
Oh don't get me wrong at all Jaime, I don't have any problem with them
using the band. I just pray they use it responsibly which, according to
what I can see on the installation of these units, is not likely. Good news
is I have a meeting with a Captain soon about a water tower we are building
out and I intend to find out who to talk to about those radios. Might be
able to offer some services in the name of making sure they play nice.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever they
 want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much many
 WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn they
 opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you maybe
 you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise border
 towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about non
 Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands.
 I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in
 the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I never said the band belonged to us. Its a fiscal responsibility thing.
They have spectrum set aside for them, so when they need the data its
there. But they go cheap because of the upfront cost, but pay more in the
long run in support costs.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 there you go..a business opportunity

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oh don't get me wrong at all Jaime, I don't have any problem with them
 using the band. I just pray they use it responsibly which, according to
 what I can see on the installation of these units, is not likely. Good news
 is I have a meeting with a Captain soon about a water tower we are building
 out and I intend to find out who to talk to about those radios. Might be
 able to offer some services in the name of making sure they play nice.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever
 they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much
 many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn
 they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you
 maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise
 border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about
 non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular
 bands. I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more,
 but in the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
 hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to 
 worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am helping a local WISP with noise from Vivint.  We move   they move
right on top. I have mac address recorded.   I will keep recording and
handle it

Jaime Solorza
On Apr 29, 2015 3:24 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
wrote:

 I have no problem using the spectrum either. I will never complain about
 the use of it. However, I will complain about the irresponsible use of it.
 Vivint Wireless just moved into my area and killed the spectrum. I can
 barely sell a 5 Mb plan much less 20 because of all the noise.

 With that said, I am completely abandoning the 5GHz realm to avoid these
 issues. There are so many options now that I see no reason to just let
 Vivint have that space. I will be able to offer much higher speeds then
 them now anyway.

 Speaking of Vivint, anyone know how many areas they are in now?

 They took one of my customers and made it a hub home. That customer called
 me back within 3 weeks telling me that are in contract with them but still
 wanted me to reinstall my internet because it was faster. They were on a
 15Mb plan. But because of all the noise I couldn't get them 1Mb.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever they
 want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much many
 WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn they
 opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you maybe
 you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise border
 towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about non
 Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands.
 I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in
 the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread That other guy Jay

What options are you pursuing other than 5 GHz?

Brett A Mansfield wrote:
I have no problem using the spectrum either. I will never complain 
about the use of it. However, I will complain about the irresponsible 
use of it. Vivint Wireless just moved into my area and killed the 
spectrum. I can barely sell a 5 Mb plan much less 20 because of all 
the noise.


With that said, I am completely abandoning the 5GHz realm to avoid 
these issues. There are so many options now that I see no reason to 
just let Vivint have that space. I will be able to offer much higher 
speeds then them now anyway.


Speaking of Vivint, anyone know how many areas they are in now?

They took one of my customers and made it a hub home. That customer 
called me back within 3 weeks telling me that are in contract with 
them but still wanted me to reinstall my internet because it was 
faster. They were on a 15Mb plan. But because of all the noise I 
couldn't get them 1Mb.


Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:


These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever 
they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how 
much many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed 
bands.  Damn they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make 
it work for you maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of 
you have the noise border towns like mine has and never once have you 
heard me complain about non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise 
we make changes. We tried 900 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We 
installed a small POP to service the area and moved on.


Jaime Solorza

On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:


I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular
bands. I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear
costs more, but in the long run, the staff or outsourced IT
support costs even out

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett
af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:

there must not be any wind in your area either since that
airfiber is on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy
wires or any thing. :-/

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Imgur!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them
down now. Please hold...

-Ty

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh
Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

No picture

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

Look what our local police department
just had put up for a 0.8mile link.
Check out the uptilt on that second
radio. There is less than 40ft
difference in elevation.

I'm sure they will run them
responsibly with only the channel
width they need and sane power
levels, right? Right? Nothing to
worry about.


Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
911 I need help.  What?  I can't hear you.  Which leg is severed?  Hold on
let me change channels so I can hear you.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 29, 2015 5:00 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am helping a local WISP with noise from Vivint.  We move   they move
 right on top. I have mac address recorded.   I will keep recording and
 handle it

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 3:24 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
 wrote:

 I have no problem using the spectrum either. I will never complain about
 the use of it. However, I will complain about the irresponsible use of it.
 Vivint Wireless just moved into my area and killed the spectrum. I can
 barely sell a 5 Mb plan much less 20 because of all the noise.

 With that said, I am completely abandoning the 5GHz realm to avoid these
 issues. There are so many options now that I see no reason to just let
 Vivint have that space. I will be able to offer much higher speeds then
 them now anyway.

 Speaking of Vivint, anyone know how many areas they are in now?

 They took one of my customers and made it a hub home. That customer
 called me back within 3 weeks telling me that are in contract with them but
 still wanted me to reinstall my internet because it was faster. They were
 on a 15Mb plan. But because of all the noise I couldn't get them 1Mb.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever
 they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much
 many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn
 they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you
 maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise
 border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about
 non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands.
 I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in
 the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
 hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
They are going get a Dragonwave set up since they are resellers I believe

Jaime Solorza
On Apr 29, 2015 4:00 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am helping a local WISP with noise from Vivint.  We move   they move
 right on top. I have mac address recorded.   I will keep recording and
 handle it

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 3:24 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
 wrote:

 I have no problem using the spectrum either. I will never complain about
 the use of it. However, I will complain about the irresponsible use of it.
 Vivint Wireless just moved into my area and killed the spectrum. I can
 barely sell a 5 Mb plan much less 20 because of all the noise.

 With that said, I am completely abandoning the 5GHz realm to avoid these
 issues. There are so many options now that I see no reason to just let
 Vivint have that space. I will be able to offer much higher speeds then
 them now anyway.

 Speaking of Vivint, anyone know how many areas they are in now?

 They took one of my customers and made it a hub home. That customer
 called me back within 3 weeks telling me that are in contract with them but
 still wanted me to reinstall my internet because it was faster. They were
 on a 15Mb plan. But because of all the noise I couldn't get them 1Mb.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever
 they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much
 many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn
 they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you
 maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise
 border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about
 non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands.
 I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in
 the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
 hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

2015-04-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
Probably because the next question is Is that negative or positive? On
the other hand I agree. If the ground is floating, and I should but I don't
remember, they could list it as either.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 So, why not say 48 VDC and leave it at that?  If you add a polarity then
 you also imply ground reference.

 -Original Message- From: Daniel White
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:13 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

 I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground.

 We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other
 radios are -48VDC only).

 ***
 Daniel White - Managing Director
 SAF North America LLC
 Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
 Skype: danieldwhite
 Social: LinkedIn

 ***

  -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
 (Cyber Broadcasting)
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power

 I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet
 says
 -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.



 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 http://www.avast.com




Re: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

2015-04-29 Thread WaveDirect
Check the PPS.  Its the biggest indicator that its bogging down and may not 
entirely reflect on the CPU graphs (if you are not doing any L7 or queue 
stuff).  As someone else said sometimes you'll see the CPU at 30% and it will 
perform badly.  The thing to watch is the PPS. 

- Original Message -
From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:59:22 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CPU on Mikrotik

Hi Guys

 

I'm trying to find the slow point in part of my network.

I have a rb2011 that has 70% cpu, to me that says I have room left.

But could cpu that high be slowing me down?

Space is a issue to replace it.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys


Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
that is a nice looking coverage map

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Graham McIntire gra...@vntx.net wrote:

 Ty,

 What did you use to generate the service coverage area with Google maps?

 Graham


 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy
 at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live
 with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please
 check it out and let me know if you see anything of concern.

 www.zeecon.com

 -Ty





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

2015-04-29 Thread Gino Villarini
Thanks for all the responses



Gino A. Villarini
President





On 4/29/15, 11:17 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

TED http://www.theenergydetective.com/ .. I used to have one.. bit
expensive though. 

- Original Message -
From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

Is it just to monitor your load, and make sure you're only using what
you pay for, or does he want to actually do KWH billing off of it?

I use several of the MFI-cs sensors to monitor current loads at sites,
to make sure that someone else hasn't come and plugged into my outlet,
and they work well.  I'm not sure I'd trust them for billing purposes
though.

Nate


On 4/29/2015 9:59 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Whatever happened to the mFi-cs?

 http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/mfi/mFi_DS.pdf (page 12)

 ryan


 On 4/28/15 4:59 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter.
 ï¿1Ž2I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the
 landlord can check it out.

 Any ideas?



 Gino A. Villarini
 President


 -- 
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
 http://www.ngc457.com/



Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Their paid software is as much of a disaster to deal with. They obfuscate
their obfuscation using multiple levels of dual factor obfuscation

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com
wrote:

  Damn them and their free software.

 On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

  +1 yup..



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!



 Microsoft.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as
 stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to
 begin with?



 -Ty



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  You're very welcome.  Just remember to type redist after your search and
 you'll save your sanity.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking
 still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got
 it downloading now.



 Thanks Josh.



 -Ty



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Just put redistributable behind your search



 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a
 slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to
 even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in
 circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com
 account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which
 version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click
 Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some
 resources!



 F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014
 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express?



 I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't.



 -Ty















-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!

2015-04-29 Thread Glen Waldrop
I just can't see it...


  - Original Message - 
  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!


  Their paid software is as much of a disaster to deal with. They obfuscate 
their obfuscation using multiple levels of dual factor obfuscation


  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com 
wrote:

Damn them and their free software.


On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

  +1 yup.. 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!



  Microsoft.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling 
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as 
stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to 
begin with? 



-Ty



On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  You're very welcome.  Just remember to type redist after your search 
and you'll save your sanity.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling 
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up 
blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I 
got it downloading now.



Thanks Josh.



-Ty



On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Just put redistributable behind your search



  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling 
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management 
Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not 
a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even 
manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. 
Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter 
your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to 
download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to 
download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources!



F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for 
SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? 



I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't.



-Ty


















  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Utick
It's inside a shed that we have all of our gear in at the site with the
exhaust plumbed to the outside.   Honestly, we used a 4 Pellet Stove vent
and screwed it to the end of the exhaust pipe on the generator.   Not the
prettiest thing in the world, but works fine.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Those guys that have one on of these on the Packetflux controller, How
 are you weathersealing the generator?  Did you build a small enclosure
 around it?  Put it in a building and plumb the exhaust?  I'm guessing it's
 not just setting out to the weather with the plugs and controls exposed on
 the side.

 Nate



 On 4/28/2015 10:30 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote:

  It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks):
 http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/

  Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux?


  -Rob


 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Can't be sold in California.  It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the
 rest of the country can benefit.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Did a container fall off a boat?

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband 
 li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:

  I did order one.

 Adam

 Â

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen

 Â

 We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites
 hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the
 event we don't have enough solar.   Has been running great there so far.

 Â

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband 
 li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969

 Â

 Adam

 Â








Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Utick
Just do what we did, and hook it up to a 250 gallon tank sitting next to
the building.   ;-)


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this?

 -Ty

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always
 seem to get me.

 -Ty
 On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:

 On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote:

 Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like
 this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am
 unfamiliar with.



 It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating
 alternator to output a square wave?

 ~Seth





Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

2015-04-29 Thread Peter Kranz
I’m seeing good results with RM5AC in regards to interference and weak 
signals.. Probably 4x better than RM5 radios.

 

-Peter

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

 

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au mailto:r...@latrobeit.com.au  wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread Colin Stanners
Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small
dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

-- Forwarded message --
From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net
Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
To: cstann...@gmail.com
Cc:

 A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
 It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS -
Digital Transmission System).
 Full details on this application and possible product images can be found
at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)

 Cheers,
 FCCID.NET



Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen

2015-04-29 Thread Steve Utick
Yes, absolutely.   Had to build a custom harness to hook to the start
wires, etc. and used a door lock solenoid to operate the choke on it.   We
also put in an electric propane shut-off valve that's controlled by the
generator controller as well.   Works pretty slick once we got it all
done.   We can manually start it if we want, or we have it set to monitor
the battery voltage on the battery array.  If it gets to low, it
automatically starts the generator and runs the AC Charger on them for a
couple of hours.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Rob Genovesi r...@corp.coastside.net
wrote:

 It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks):
 http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/

 Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux?


 -Rob


 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Can't be sold in California.  It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the
 rest of the country can benefit.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Did a container fall off a boat?

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband 
 li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:

 I did order one.

 Adam



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen



 We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites
 hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the
 event we don't have enough solar.   Has been running great there so far.



 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband 
 li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969



 Adam









Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

2015-04-29 Thread Rory Conaway
This is a conundrum I’ve been battling with a client of ours.  The newer 
Rockets with XW firmware can handle more clients but run into random lockups.  
The only difference between them and the Titanium’s is the port.  The ePMP 
isn’t sexy but it does work and can handle more than 50 clients at the AP plus 
comes with GPS.  Rocket AC’s may not need GPS as badly but their firmware is 
still beta and I haven’t seen any data from anyone with 4 on a tower.  We won’t 
deploy them until they are backward compatible with 802.11n and there is a 
smaller CPE than the PowerBeam-AC.Mimosa isn’t out yet with PTMP so that 
option is out.

Our client deployed Ubiquiti Rockets in 1 city but is deploying Cambium ePMP in 
the next city.  We just deployed a tower over the weekend and used Rocket 5Ms 
with RF Armor shields but we won’t have density issues for a few months.  We 
may replace it with Mimosa or Rocket AC’s if the compatibility issue gets 
resolved.  Forklifting the entire area isn’t financially feasible for the 
revenue.  But I do expect multiple options to be compatible with 802.11n at the 
AP level in a few months and that’s what we are planning for.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.
Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

Thanks

Rhys




From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.
On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.aumailto:r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:
Hello


Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?
I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.


I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.


Any thought please?


Thanks


:-)





--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

2015-04-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:
Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can't decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is
staring to bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

2015-04-29 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

 

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



[AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

2015-04-29 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can't decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is
staring to bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 



Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

2015-04-29 Thread Nate Burke
Is it just to monitor your load, and make sure you're only using what 
you pay for, or does he want to actually do KWH billing off of it?


I use several of the MFI-cs sensors to monitor current loads at sites, 
to make sure that someone else hasn't come and plugged into my outlet, 
and they work well.  I'm not sure I'd trust them for billing purposes 
though.


Nate


On 4/29/2015 9:59 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:

Whatever happened to the mFi-cs?

http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/mfi/mFi_DS.pdf (page 12)

ryan


On 4/28/15 4:59 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. 
�I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the 
landlord can check it out.


Any ideas?



Gino A. Villarini
President



--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
http://www.ngc457.com/




Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

2015-04-29 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Whatever happened to the mFi-cs?

http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/mfi/mFi_DS.pdf (page 12)

ryan


On 4/28/15 4:59 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter.  I 
was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the 
landlord can check it out.


Any ideas?



Gino A. Villarini
President



--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
http://www.ngc457.com/



Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

2015-04-29 Thread WaveDirect
TED http://www.theenergydetective.com/ .. I used to have one.. bit expensive 
though.  

- Original Message -
From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?

Is it just to monitor your load, and make sure you're only using what 
you pay for, or does he want to actually do KWH billing off of it?

I use several of the MFI-cs sensors to monitor current loads at sites, 
to make sure that someone else hasn't come and plugged into my outlet, 
and they work well.  I'm not sure I'd trust them for billing purposes 
though.

Nate


On 4/29/2015 9:59 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Whatever happened to the mFi-cs?

 http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/mfi/mFi_DS.pdf (page 12)

 ryan


 On 4/28/15 4:59 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. 
 �I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the 
 landlord can check it out.

 Any ideas?



 Gino A. Villarini
 President


 -- 
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
 http://www.ngc457.com/