Re: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

[Dev]

I need to find engineering so I can determine what loads they can support. This 
one was a spare, but there is a bunch of others still up.

If I can’t determine the model/manufacturer, is there a way to figure out what 
they’ll support?

I think I remember hearing these are a super common model.

>>
> I can't answer about that specific pole, but Valmont makes a bunch of 
light poles.

If you wanted to replace it with fiberglass I can point you towards a 
company for that.


-- Original Message --
From: "Dev" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 12/29/2017 12:23:39 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

> Trying to find the pole manufacturer and if possible the model 
> number/name of this pole, does anyone know?
> 
> http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole1.jpg
> 
> I thought maybe there?d be information inside the base cover, but don?t 
> see any:
> 
> http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole2.jpg
> 
> you can see the overall length, though it?s buried:
> 
> http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole3.jpg

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Eric Kuhnke]

Anything that has a label on it with cranking amps is not designed to be
used in cyclic applications...  Very different internal plate design versus
an Outback 106RE or similar.

Lead acid batteries designed for cyclic use (PV/wind) or telecom/float use
will have a datasheet with 1 hour and 20 Hour discharge rates. Nowhere on
the datasheet will you see "cranking amps" or CCA.



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM,  wrote:

> WalMart
> PN: 29DC
> 1464 watt hours
> $86.83
> 5.9 cents per watt hour
>
> Doesn't come much cheaper than that.
>

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Harold Bledsoe]

I don't think this is a true deep cycle battery but rather a hybrid marine
one. It's good for backup but I wouldn't use it for a daily cycler. The 1A
discharge AH rating is another clue...

I have used these for backup systems though. I'd guess they are good for
80-100 cycles roughly (a lot of power outages in other words).

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 1:27 PM  wrote:

> WalMart
> PN: 29DC
> 1464 watt hours
> $86.83
> 5.9 cents per watt hour
>
> Doesn't come much cheaper than that.
>
> --

Harold Bledsoe

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Robert Andrews]

I eagerly await your review when you have some in service.

On 12/29/2017 11:27 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

WalMart
PN: 29DC
1464 watt hours
$86.83
5.9 cents per watt hour

Doesn't come much cheaper than that.

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Robert Andrews]

Sad that an apple product becomes the icon of bad products...

   But we have literally 100's of these batteries in service and, yes 
there is a failure rate, but it's the same as all the other brands of 
batteries ( all wet ) that we use..  Some costing 2x the price.


On 12/29/2017 11:30 AM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
Designed to fail 1 month after warranty expires.� Planned 
obsolescence, like an IPhone.


On 12/29/2017 1:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

WalMart
PN: 29DC
1464 watt hours
$86.83
5.9 cents per watt hour

Doesn't come much cheaper than that.

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Nate Burke]

I was just at one of the Autoparts stores, they had a series of battery 
that was 1/2 the cost of the next closest, it had a 2 month warranty.  I 
figured that's about as long as it would last.  They probably test the 
old cores, one's that would hold any charge they clean up and slap a new 
label on.


On 12/29/2017 1:30 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
Designed to fail 1 month after warranty expires.� Planned 
obsolescence, like an IPhone.


On 12/29/2017 1:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

WalMart
PN: 29DC
1464 watt hours
$86.83
5.9 cents per watt hour

Doesn't come much cheaper than that.

Re: [AFMUG] battery

[Brian Sullivan]

Designed to fail 1 month after warranty expires.� Planned obsolescence, 
like an IPhone.


On 12/29/2017 1:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

WalMart
PN: 29DC
1464 watt hours
$86.83
5.9 cents per watt hour

Doesn't come much cheaper than that.

Re: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

[chuck]

I make stuff like that every day.  If you want a custom build.

-Original Message- 
From: Dev

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

Trying to find the pole manufacturer and if possible the model number/name 
of this pole, does anyone know?


http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole1.jpg

I thought maybe there’d be information inside the base cover, but don’t see 
any:


http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole2.jpg

you can see the overall length, though it’s buried:

http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole3.jpg 

Re: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

[Adam Moffett]

I can't answer about that specific pole, but Valmont makes a bunch of 
light poles.


If you wanted to replace it with fiberglass I can point you towards a 
company for that.



-- Original Message --
From: "Dev" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 12/29/2017 12:23:39 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] what pole is this?

Trying to find the pole manufacturer and if possible the model 
number/name of this pole, does anyone know?


http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole1.jpg

I thought maybe there’d be information inside the base cover, but don’t 
see any:


http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole2.jpg

you can see the overall length, though it’s buried:

http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole3.jpg

[AFMUG] what pole is this?

[Dev]

Trying to find the pole manufacturer and if possible the model number/name of 
this pole, does anyone know?

http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole1.jpg

I thought maybe there’d be information inside the base cover, but don’t see any:

http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole2.jpg

you can see the overall length, though it’s buried:

http://cheatsheet.logicalwebhost.com/steelpole3.jpg

Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Gino A. Villarini]

Yeah but it requires over 50W iirc  vs a UBNT AP 8-10w

From: Af > on behalf of Rory 
Conaway >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Isn’t the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP… just 
saying!

From: Af > on behalf of Rory 
Conaway >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Andreas Wiatowski]

Thanks Neil!

Cheers,

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From: Af  on behalf of Neil Smellie 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:05 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM, > 
wrote:
Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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From: Af > on behalf of 
"ch...@wbmfg.com" 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Neil Smellie]

Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM,  wrote:

> Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
> Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
>
> Paris Chamber of Commerce
>
> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From: *Af  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of
> similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.
>
>
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with
> fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we
> can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have
> the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of
> upto 500ft!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 <(866)%20727-4138> x-600
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
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>
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>
> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Andreas Wiatowski]

I don’t have a CMM5. I have been using CMM4 and Packetflux over the years.  I 
didn’t know PF had a Medusa capable unit on the market…I will take a look.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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From: Af  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[chuck]

Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.  

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:

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From: Af  on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

 

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  

Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?

If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

 

Good Morning,

 

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:

CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca 

WISPA http://wispa.org

Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce

Paris Chamber of Commerce

Cambridge Chamber of Commerce

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Andreas Wiatowski]

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

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Silo Wireless Inc.
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http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Rory Conaway]

Isn't the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP... just 
saying!

From: Af > on behalf of Rory 
Conaway >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490' and it's running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
Cambridge Chamber of Commerce


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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Gino A. Villarini]

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP… just 
saying!

From: Af > on behalf of Rory 
Conaway >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
Cambridge Chamber of Commerce


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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[chuck]

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

 

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:

CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca 

WISPA http://wispa.org

Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce

Paris Chamber of Commerce

Cambridge Chamber of Commerce

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Rory Conaway]

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
Cambridge Chamber of Commerce


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[AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

[Andreas Wiatowski]

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
Cambridge Chamber of Commerce


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Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Timothy Steele]

Fine tip marker is really the best

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 8:53 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> For office/structure wiring, simple electrical wire number markers work
> fine. The kind you can get in booklets or on a dispenser like this:
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-wire-marker-tape-wdispenser-preprintd-std-0-9/i/G3472226/
> They're cheap enough to put two sets of numbers 3-5 feet apart at the ends
> in case you need to trim excess. Or one set and re-mark after you trim,
> punch down, terminate, whatever.
>
> I've had a Dymo 5200 for years now. It's great for tower cables, patch
> panels and all kinds of stuff. I put a "GPS" label on SyncPipes at sites
> using the vinyl industrial tape. Been there for years and none have faded
> or blown away. For cable labels, you want the 3/4" tape since it prints
> across the width. The problem I have with the shrink tube label is that we
> often mark what's what after we terminate and plug things in, so you'd need
> at least 1/2" to fit over an RJ45.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>
> For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what I use for my tower sites.
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in
>>
>>
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker
>>
>> It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it.
>> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
>> weather so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
>>> through conduit at well sites
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a
 lot of running back and forth.

 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a 
> toner
> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as
> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells
> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is
> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each
> end and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time
>> for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire 
>> for
>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat 
>> shrink
>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
>> necessary..
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>>
>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled 
>>> before
>>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going 
>>> to
>>> get cut