Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus

[Philip Rankin]

👍

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 PM Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Plat is great, and Sonar costs more, but I wanted a more modern system and
> I was constantly fighting small glitches and bugs in the system including
> PCI compliance.
>
>
>
> Also I don’t want to host anything myself anymore, it’s a hassel to
> maintain and back up the database reliably.
>
>
>
> And it has more of the features I want going forward, hopefully.
>
>
>
> I’m kind of regretting it right now, but I’m hoping it pans out sooner
> than later.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip Rankin
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:59 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
>
> I’m curious, why change. I really like Plat and it does everything I need.
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:52 PM Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> So here is a current update on my months long progress moving from
> Platypus to Sonar.
>
> It's not automatic by any means.
>
> Data import is taking a long time and its painful and costs a lot extra.
>
> I'm having to manually correct/add accounts to Sonar with rate group
> changes, address validations etc.
>
> They appear to be understaffed.
>
> A lot of their system isn't theirs too, which is OK I guess, just didn't
> realize that.
>
> Import is a third party process if you don't want to do it yourself.
> Actual payment site isn't them, you host it yourself or get a hosting
> company, and have to maintain it yourself.
> Paper statements are not directly them, you have to set up a third party
> account and pay/manage them.
>
> This is just a 'simple' import of billing function only.
>
> I didn't even have any network information for any accounts, so I shudder
> to think how that would have migrated.
>
> Also I didn't really see them emphasizing the fact that their database and
> Plat could get seriously out of synch if you are not careful.
>
> I've had to manually suspend everything in Platypus to assure data isn't
> out of sync with the new system until it comes online.
>
> That means it's been days of people calling/contacting me trying to pay
> bills and I'm stuck in the middle.
>
> Don't want to roll back since I've spent so many hours now on migration.
>
> Can't go forward yet because I'm still waiting on massive fixes to rates
> on customers, and web site creation/setup for billing.
>
> Let's just say I'm excited to get onboarding done and running, but I'm
> also crying because it's not there yet and help is slow to come some days.
>
> --
>
> Philip J. Rankin
>
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>
-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

I have many other releases but not that one.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Adair Winter]

I'll check

On Jan 15, 2018 3:38 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Jerry Head]

Four-way Internet or something like that is pretty close I think.

On 1/16/2018 12:16 AM, Robert wrote:
Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking 
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and 
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...


Thanks,
robert

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

[Travis Johnson]

I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property. Verizon pays the 
rent every month.


Travis


On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one to 
American Tower.


So it must be AT that you're looking at.

On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM, "TJ Trout" > wrote:


I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of the fence
of one of Verizon's owned sites.

Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease from them?
Just to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower.

Thanks!!

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[chuck]

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a 
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS 
/tree performance.


Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't remember 
the brand or the outcome.

Did it work?
Is the company still around?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

Thanks,
robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Mike Hammett]

Baicells 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis 

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a 
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS 
/tree performance. 

Remember some preliminary test results then nothing. I just don't remember 
the brand or the outcome. 
Did it work? 
Is the company still around? 

-Original Message- 
From: Robert 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis 

Any wireless providers thereabout? I have a customer that is looking 
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and 
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there... 

Thanks, 
robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[chuck]

Did it live up to the promises?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

Baicells




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a 
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS 
/tree performance.

Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't remember 
the brand or the outcome.
Did it work?
Is the company still around?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

Thanks,
robert 

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

[Sam Lambie]

I spoke with versatek yesterday and they were pretty helpful. I have been
buying their gear for a while now and am happy with them. The min 8 port
DSLAM is about $800 and the 24 port is about $1400.


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Curious about this as we too have an older Dslam that needs upgrading
>
>
> On 01/15/2018 10:51 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> I am looking at replacing a very old DSLAM that we have had in operation
> for the past 13 years. It is slow and dying. Looking at VDSL2 and am
> wondering if any of you have had experience with them.
> The building is an old 1980's concrete behemoth that is a wifi killer,
> hence the need for the DSLAM.
> Versatek has been good to me with other adsl2+ locations, but since we now
> have 100 mbps+ of FTTH available to many MDUs, it make sense to look into
> faster DSLAM.
>
> What about modems as well? Any particular brands that work better than
> others?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
> --
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Jason McKemie]

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work,
and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

> Did it live up to the promises?
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
> Baicells
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
> What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with
> a
> couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for
> NLOS
> /tree performance.
>
> Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't
> remember
> the brand or the outcome.
> Did it work?
> Is the company still around?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
> Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
> for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
> it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...
>
> Thanks,
> robert
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[chuck]

It seemed to me that there was a field test claiming to go through solid rock 
or some such thing.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and 
maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

  Did it live up to the promises?

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Baicells




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a 
  couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS 
  /tree performance.

  Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't remember 
  the brand or the outcome.
  Did it work?
  Is the company still around?

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
  for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
  it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

  Thanks,
  robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Mike Hammett]

It'd be going around (bouncing off of something) as opposed to through. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:39:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis 




It seemed to me that there was a field test claiming to go through solid rock 
or some such thing. 




From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:36 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis 

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and 
maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. 

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






Did it live up to the promises? 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis 


Baicells 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis 

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a 
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS 
/tree performance. 

Remember some preliminary test results then nothing. I just don't remember 
the brand or the outcome. 
Did it work? 
Is the company still around? 

-Original Message- 
From: Robert 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis 

Any wireless providers thereabout? I have a customer that is looking 
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and 
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there... 

Thanks, 
robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Mathew Howard]

It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it
works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does
(or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be
a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say,
Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from
2.4ghz, or a bit better), but no, it's nothing magical.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work,
> and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> Did it live up to the promises?
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>> Baicells
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>> What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working
>> with a
>> couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for
>> NLOS
>> /tree performance.
>>
>> Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't
>> remember
>> the brand or the outcome.
>> Did it work?
>> Is the company still around?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>> Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
>> for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
>> it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> robert
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis


  It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works 
fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or did, 
when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit 
disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 
3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit 
better), but no, it's nothing magical.



  On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, 
and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though.


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

  Did it live up to the promises?

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Baicells




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working 
with a 
  couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for 
NLOS 
  /tree performance.

  Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't 
remember 
  the brand or the outcome.
  Did it work?
  Is the company still around?

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
  for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
  it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

  Thanks,
  robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[chuck]

Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial 
testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis


For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works 
fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or did, 
when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit 
disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 
3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit 
better), but no, it's nothing magical.


  On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, 
and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. 


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

  Did it live up to the promises?

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Baicells




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

  What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working 
with a 
  couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for 
NLOS 
  /tree performance.

  Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't 
remember 
  the brand or the outcome.
  Did it work?
  Is the company still around?

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

  Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
  for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
  it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

  Thanks,
  robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Is it possibly to get a lease land for a tower for one of these big
companies and then have in the lease that you are allowed to put antennas
on that tower as part of the agreement rent free?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property. Verizon pays the
> rent every month.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>
> Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one to American
> Tower.
>
> So it must be AT that you're looking at.
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
>> I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of the fence of one
>> of Verizon's owned sites.
>>
>> Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease from them? Just
>> to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much better 
than 900 LOL
fortunately our 900 still works pretty good here.  We have one area where it 
does not but it is due to an "operator" nearby 
who does not believe in gps sync for canopy


  - Original Message - 
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis


  Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial 
testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900.

  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis


  For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. 
- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it 
works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or 
did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit 
disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 
3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit 
better), but no, it's nothing magical.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

  It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, 
and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. 


  On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

Did it live up to the promises?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

Baicells




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working 
with a 
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for 
NLOS 
/tree performance.

Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't 
remember 
the brand or the outcome.
Did it work?
Is the company still around?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

Thanks,
robert 

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

[Chris Fabien]

Anything's negotiable right??

On Jan 16, 2018 11:59 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
wrote:

> Is it possibly to get a lease land for a tower for one of these big
> companies and then have in the lease that you are allowed to put antennas
> on that tower as part of the agreement rent free?
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property. Verizon pays the
>> rent every month.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one to American
>> Tower.
>>
>> So it must be AT that you're looking at.
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of the fence of
>>> one of Verizon's owned sites.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease from them? Just
>>> to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower.
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Jaime Solorza]

I am old school... still believe 900 will work better than 3.65 in NLOS.
 So the Cambium 900 solution isn't cutting it?

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 16, 2018 10:05 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much
> better than 900 LOL
> fortunately our 900 still works pretty good here.  We have one area where
> it does not but it is due to an "operator" nearby
> who does not believe in gps sync for canopy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
> Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial
> testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900.
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
>
> For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *To:* af
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>
> It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it
> works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does
> (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be
> a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say,
> Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from
> 2.4ghz, or a bit better), but no, it's nothing magical.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work,
>> and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> Did it live up to the promises?
>>>
>>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>>
>>> Baicells
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>>
>>> What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working
>>> with a
>>> couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for
>>> NLOS
>>> /tree performance.
>>>
>>> Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't
>>> remember
>>> the brand or the outcome.
>>> Did it work?
>>> Is the company still around?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Robert
>>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>>
>>> Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
>>> for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
>>> it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

[Nate Burke]

Years ago, back when cell towers were still a novelty item, we worked 
with a municipality where they forced the cellco to massively oversize 
the tower, which was located on city property, so the city could do with 
it what they wanted.  I think they allowed the tower to be put up, so 
they got use of it.


On 1/16/2018 11:09 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Anything's negotiable right??

On Jan 16, 2018 11:59 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" > wrote:


Is it possibly to get a lease land for a tower for one of these
big companies and then have in the lease that you are allowed to
put antennas on that tower as part of the agreement rent free?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johnson mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:

I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property.
Verizon pays the rent every month.

Travis


On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one
to American Tower.

So it must be AT that you're looking at.

On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM, "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of
the fence of one of Verizon's owned sites.

Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease
from them? Just to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower.

Thanks!!

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Mathew Howard]

All things being equal, 900mhz does work better than 3.65ghz in NLOS, and
it always will. The Cambium 900mhz solution works quite nicely... where it
works. The problem is that half of our sites either never worked very well
because of interference, or one day they just start working like crap
because some new interference shows up (I suspect smart meters in a couple
of areas, but I have yet to prove that... ). It's gotten to the point where
it's just so unpredictable that I don't want to put any more 900mhz up.

I think most of the claims about LTE's NLOS capabilities came from Telrad
(when Patrick was there... I haven't heard much from them since he left). I
don't think I've ever heard anyone from Baicells claim it would work better
than 900mhz (aside from interference issues).

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I am old school... still believe 900 will work better than 3.65 in NLOS.
>  So the Cambium 900 solution isn't cutting it?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jan 16, 2018 10:05 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much
>> better than 900 LOL
>> fortunately our 900 still works pretty good here.  We have one area where
>> it does not but it is due to an "operator" nearby
>> who does not believe in gps sync for canopy
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:57 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>> Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial
>> testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900.
>>
>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>>
>> For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *To:* af
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
>>
>> It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it
>> works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does
>> (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be
>> a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say,
>> Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say it performs closer to what I'd expect from
>> 2.4ghz, or a bit better), but no, it's nothing magical.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to
>>> work, and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities
>>> though.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:
>>>
 Did it live up to the promises?

 *From:* Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

 Baicells



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 
 The Brothers WISP 
 


 
 --
 *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

 What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working
 with a
 couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for
 NLOS
 /tree performance.

 Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I just don't
 remember
 the brand or the outcome.
 Did it work?
 Is the company still around?

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

 Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking
 for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and
 it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

 Thanks,
 robert



>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

Note: According to the ExtendAir G2 1.4.3 upgrade notes, if you have very
early firmware you can upgrade your link to 1.1.0 then jump straight to
1.4.2 (which needs to be programmed in twice for reasons that I don't fully
understand), then to 1.4.3. I can send you 1.1.0 firmware if you want.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Mike Hammett]

Programming twice usually means there are two firmware banks and you're 
bringing both up to that version. I suspect there's some big change where the 
old firmware won't work anyway, so you need to flash twice to avoid 
accidentally rolling back to a firmware that won't work anymore. 

Speculation, of course. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Colin Stanners"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:45:22 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware 


Note: According to the ExtendAir G2 1.4.3 upgrade notes, if you have very early 
firmware you can upgrade your link to 1.1.0 then jump straight to 1.4.2 (which 
needs to be programmed in twice for reasons that I don't fully understand), 
then to 1.4.3. I can send you 1.1.0 firmware if you want. 


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
wrote: 


Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it? 

[AFMUG] Exalt support - FYI

[Colin Stanners]

To anyone else who has had issues contacting Exalt Communications support (
supp...@exaltcom.com seems to have had issues for some time), I was using
an alternate e-mail address at a support subcontractor that has worked
well: exaltsupp...@starmicrowave.com .

If you need earlier radio firmware, I have an archive too.

(Also if anyone wants to buy a large number of their 5ghz  EX-5R-C GigE or
RC5000 outdoor connectorized radios let me know...)

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

[Lewis Bergman]

I have 5 towers where that is almost exactly what I have. I can put up
equipment that is equal to or lesser than some config I listed out at the
time of the agreement. The only thing I have to pay is electricity which is
set at $50 per month per active site. I pay that annually.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Years ago, back when cell towers were still a novelty item, we worked with
> a municipality where they forced the cellco to massively oversize the
> tower, which was located on city property, so the city could do with it
> what they wanted.  I think they allowed the tower to be put up, so they got
> use of it.
>
> On 1/16/2018 11:09 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
>
> Anything's negotiable right??
>
> On Jan 16, 2018 11:59 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
> Is it possibly to get a lease land for a tower for one of these big
>> companies and then have in the lease that you are allowed to put antennas
>> on that tower as part of the agreement rent free?
>>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
> I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property. Verizon pays the
>>> rent every month.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one to
>>> American Tower.
>>>
>>> So it must be AT that you're looking at.
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>>
 I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of the fence of
 one of Verizon's owned sites.

 Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease from them? Just
 to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower.

 Thanks!!

>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus

[Josh Luthman]

I would move to Sonar just to avoid Platypus for the most part.  That's
before we even discuss the more modern tools and capabilities.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Plat is great, and Sonar costs more, but I wanted a more modern system and
> I was constantly fighting small glitches and bugs in the system including
> PCI compliance.
>
>
>
> Also I don’t want to host anything myself anymore, it’s a hassel to
> maintain and back up the database reliably.
>
>
>
> And it has more of the features I want going forward, hopefully.
>
>
>
> I’m kind of regretting it right now, but I’m hoping it pans out sooner
> than later.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip Rankin
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus
>
>
>
> I’m curious, why change. I really like Plat and it does everything I need.
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:52 PM Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> So here is a current update on my months long progress moving from
> Platypus to Sonar.
>
> It's not automatic by any means.
>
> Data import is taking a long time and its painful and costs a lot extra.
>
> I'm having to manually correct/add accounts to Sonar with rate group
> changes, address validations etc.
>
> They appear to be understaffed.
>
> A lot of their system isn't theirs too, which is OK I guess, just didn't
> realize that.
>
> Import is a third party process if you don't want to do it yourself.
> Actual payment site isn't them, you host it yourself or get a hosting
> company, and have to maintain it yourself.
> Paper statements are not directly them, you have to set up a third party
> account and pay/manage them.
>
> This is just a 'simple' import of billing function only.
>
> I didn't even have any network information for any accounts, so I shudder
> to think how that would have migrated.
>
> Also I didn't really see them emphasizing the fact that their database and
> Plat could get seriously out of synch if you are not careful.
>
> I've had to manually suspend everything in Platypus to assure data isn't
> out of sync with the new system until it comes online.
>
> That means it's been days of people calling/contacting me trying to pay
> bills and I'm stuck in the middle.
>
> Don't want to roll back since I've spent so many hours now on migration.
>
> Can't go forward yet because I'm still waiting on massive fixes to rates
> on customers, and web site creation/setup for billing.
>
> Let's just say I'm excited to get onboarding done and running, but I'm
> also crying because it's not there yet and help is slow to come some days.
>
> --
>
> Philip J. Rankin
>
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

[Dave]

I have used the cambium 3.65Ghz PMP450 and PMP450i since its debut.
I have been very happy with performance and reach for this band. I run 
10Mhz channels and most connections are 8x8x to 8x2x as expected

when going through some tough tree like pines.
Most of our cell ranges are sitting around 8mile radi.
We are selling 20Mbs sustained service from it no complaints.

The caveat is feeding such a beast. Go big or go home for sure LOL(2 to 
9 Access points per site)

your gonna need reliable microwave or fiber to feed these things.
We have a couple ptp800 2+0 full links in place and other sites that are 
not as big get ptp650 full key




On 01/16/2018 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during 
initial testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much 
better than 900.

*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900.

- Original Message -
*From:* Mathew Howard
*To:* af
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear,
and it works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same
as 900mhz does (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in
NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit disappointed... being LTE, it
does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy 450 in 3.65ghz (I'd say
it performs closer to what I'd expect from 2.4ghz, or a bit
better), but no, it's nothing magical.
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jason McKemie
 wrote:

It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to
wimax to work, and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the
NLOS capabilities though.


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018,  wrote:

Did it live up to the promises?
*From:* Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Memphis
Baicells



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 






*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were
both working with a
couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and
end-all for NLOS
/tree performance.

Remember some preliminary test results then nothing.  I
just don't remember
the brand or the outcome.
Did it work?
Is the company still around?

-Original Message-
From: Robert
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Memphis

Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer
that is looking
for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too
many trees and
it's too flat for any wireless providers down there...

Thanks,
robert



--

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Josh Reynolds]

Hi.

I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to
put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max
throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test
results around here somewhere.

Remember, these radios have like virtually 0 buffer. They will either pass
the framea or start taildropping.

On Jan 15, 2018 1:09 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544
> tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.
>
> Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now I
> can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
> far end of the radio link, but will try it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
>> Siklu would be a better radio for this link.
>>
>> I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from what
>> I've read.
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>
>> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
>> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
>>> control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,

 If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
 with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
 RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.

 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
 capacity full duplex.

 We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
 bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.

 This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex
 layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a
 500 Mbps test to run cleanly.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[George Skorup]

Yes, there are two software banks/flashes in the ExtendAir G2.

On 1/16/2018 11:56 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Programming twice usually means there are two firmware banks and 
you're bringing both up to that version. I suspect there's some big 
change where the old firmware won't work anyway, so you need to flash 
twice to avoid accidentally rolling back to a firmware that won't work 
anymore.


Speculation, of course.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Colin Stanners" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:45:22 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

Note: According to the ExtendAir G2 1.4.3 upgrade notes, if you have 
very early firmware you can upgrade your link to 1.1.0 then jump 
straight to 1.4.2 (which needs to be programmed in twice for reasons 
that I don't fully understand), then to 1.4.3. I can send you 1.1.0 
firmware if you want.


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:


Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Eric Kuhnke]

I ended up disabling inband management on the remote end temporarily, and
got the same results...  We are likely replacing the radio set with
something that is actually 1GbE line rate and will pass frames sequentially.



On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to
> put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max
> throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test
> results around here somewhere.
>
> Remember, these radios have like virtually 0 buffer. They will either pass
> the framea or start taildropping.
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 1:09 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>
>> I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544
>> tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass.
>>
>> Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now
>> I can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the
>> far end of the radio link, but will try it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Siklu would be a better radio for this link.
>>>
>>> I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from
>>> what I've read.
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control
>>> enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
 control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.

 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
 wrote:

> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>
> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>
> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps
> capacity full duplex.
>
> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>
> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex
> layer 3 IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a
> 500 Mbps test to run cleanly.
>


>>>
>>>
>>

[AFMUG] OT Fun

[Chuck McCown]

https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

[Lewis Bergman]

OMG! that is hilarious!

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018, 7:33 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

[Chuck McCown]

Traffic is back, actually higher than normal today.
Interesting that MLK affects folks that go to my site.  

Many small business do not give MLK off to their employees.
And I presumed the small businesses were my main visitors.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

I was wondering why traffic was down to my e commerce site.

Then I took a look at Adwords.  Google has not charged me for one single click 
today.  That has never happened before.  

Can there really be that many folks on holiday and not shopping for surge 
protectors and tower mounts today??

[AFMUG] OT On TV tonight

[Chuck McCown]

I read a book or magazine article about this.  Probably something in the 
Smithsonian or Atlantic.  Was fascinating.
Looks like it will be worth watching tonight. 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/secret-tuxedo-park-trailer/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

[Jaime Solorza]

What a maroon!!! Nyak Nyak

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 16, 2018 6:44 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> OMG! that is hilarious!
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018, 7:33 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

[Eric Kuhnke]

Are you using a 17a or 30a profile with that?

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Rob Genovesi 
wrote:

> Sam,
>
> Modems are syncing at ~100 Mbps DL and ~50 Mbps UL.  We rate limit
> with a Mikrotik at the head-end.  Loop lengths are very short, under
> 1kft.  We use SmartRG modems (SR515ac) which are integrated
> modem/Wi-Fi routers.
>
>
> -Rob
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
> > Rob,
> > What speeds are you seeing to the CPE?
> > What modems are you using? Do they have wireless capability or do you add
> > another Router off of that?
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

[Rob Genovesi]

Good question!  Ours is at 17a (the default).  30a is unnecessary
because we're rate limiting lower speeds (capacity constrained by
microwave back haul).




On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> Are you using a 17a or 30a profile with that?
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Rob Genovesi 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> Modems are syncing at ~100 Mbps DL and ~50 Mbps UL.  We rate limit
>> with a Mikrotik at the head-end.  Loop lengths are very short, under
>> 1kft.  We use SmartRG modems (SR515ac) which are integrated
>> modem/Wi-Fi routers.
>>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>> > Rob,
>> > What speeds are you seeing to the CPE?
>> > What modems are you using? Do they have wireless capability or do you
>> > add
>> > another Router off of that?
>> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It was a brisk day

[Kurt Fankhauser]

what brand of camera is that? nice night time image.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Installed this PTZ Speed Dome IP camera at booster site in Fabens.  It's
> online via Cradlepoint LTE 4G router along with two other IP cameras. Once
> construction of building done we will set up lots of new control systems
> and I think 32 cameras between two boosters.  We have AF5s and AC
> Powerbeams throughout the well and liftstations sites plus main office.
> With wind chill it was 19 degrees...my fingers are still aching when I took
> gloves off to wire camera.  Took this snap shot from home a few minutes
> ago.   Maybe a Tecate will help my hands.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] It was a brisk day

[Robert]

That's one of the ~$300 ones?   I love them.  Going to be setting up a 
bunch!


On 1/16/18 6:56 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Installed this PTZ Speed Dome IP camera at booster site in Fabens.  It's 
online via Cradlepoint LTE 4G router along with two other IP cameras. 
Once construction of building done we will set up lots of new control 
systems and I think 32 cameras between two boosters.  We have AF5s and 
AC Powerbeams throughout the well and liftstations sites plus main 
office.  With wind chill it was 19 degrees...my fingers are still aching 
when I took gloves off to wire camera.  Took this snap shot from home a 
few minutes ago.   Maybe a Tecate will help my hands.


Jaime Solorza