Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
Whoever gave you that quote doesn't know what they are selling you.
At the top, it says 1200FX. The 1200FX is the lower cost version. No DC power
or SFPs. Think it also comes gig by default. should cost about half what they
quoted for an F. perhaps a tad more with 2' antennas.
They actually quoted you a 1200F link with a bunch of stuff you don't need and
a crazy license cost. Link registration is $75-$85 if you have your own
nationwide license.
The cheapest Siklu is the 1200TL. 700m half duplex. Dual combo sfp/copper.
POE or DC power. 5db instead of 7.
On Dec 18, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Not even close to an AF24 in terms of price.� Requested a quote for a
2 mile link, and this is what I got.� Radios alone are double an AF24,
there is extra cost for the antennas, plus extra for speed keys, AES, blah
blah blah.� Bottom line is that you can install 4 AF24 links for one of
these.
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On 12/16/2014 5:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material
looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link�
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Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
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Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
Winncom or just email Siklu and they will point you in the right direction
On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Have never bought Siklu, so I (obviously) don't know who to talk to. Who
should I be talking to about this stuff?
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On 12/18/2014 10:08 AM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
As others said, pricing is way wrong on this quote.. it should be at least
half of this..
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www.UnwiredLtd.com
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Mobile: 510-207-
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
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Not even close to an AF24 in terms of price.� Requested a quote for a 2
mile link, and this is what I got.� Radios alone are double an AF24, there
is extra cost for the antennas, plus extra for speed keys, AES, blah blah
blah.� Bottom line is that you can install 4 AF24 links for one of these.
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On 12/16/2014 5:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material
looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link�
�
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com
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Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
http://www.siklu.com/tools/EtherHaul_LBC/ On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I would not do 2.5 miles, that's too far, the Siklu is only +7 max Tx power into the 52dbi gain of a 60cm antenna. The much more expensive 80 GHz products are +19 Tx power and can do five nines at longer distances. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think 2.5 miles is probably the max I would go with this and that with the 2’ dish option. But that’s the same distance I would not go beyond with an AF24 either. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What kind of range does that yield in the Midwest? Mile? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 71-76/81-86 Ghz FDD Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
Actual power draw on a 1200TL is less then half of what an AF24 draws. Haven't
hooked an FX up to a DC plant to test the draw as the FX is POE only. Guessing
power draw would be slightly higher on a FX as they TX at 7db while the FX
transmits at 5.
On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
According to the spec sheet, the are 71-76/81-86GHz, FDD.
I wonder what kind of realistic range they might have, and how much power
they consume (50 watts like an AF24/AF5)?
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On 12/16/2014 5:39 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:
What freqs?
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material
looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link.
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the
same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all
to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with
one of your licenses.
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On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it
is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to
see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
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get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT Car Parts
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A-pillar.jpg So I guess your thinking about the B pillar. Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Nov 20, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What do you call that post on the side of the windshield that supports the roof of a vehicle? Trying to find a replacement trim that came off the outside. It is not showing up on the pages for the windshield, door or roof on the Ford website.
[AFMUG] Low Voltage Battery Disconnect
I have a couple Emerson 211 Rectifier shelves without the LVLD. In order to protect my battery string, I am looking for a low voltage battery disconnect that will disconnect the battery string when voltage drops below ~42V and reconnect it when the rectifier comes back online so the batteries will charge. Any suggestions for a ~20A system? Thanks, Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] Low Voltage Battery Disconnect
Thanks Dan, That is exactly what I was looking for but…at $200 I may need to think about it if its just going to protect $400 worth of batteries from a long power outage that seldom happens here… Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Plexicomm Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Carl Duracomm/Meanwell make the part you are looking for: http://duracomm.com/siteresources/apps/catalog/shop/prodList.asp?idCategory=9 Dan English Plexicomm - Internet Solutions d...@plexicomm.net | 1.866.759.4678 x103 Fax: 1.866.852.4688 | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 Note: Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message and may be subject to legal privilege. Access to this e-mail by anyone other than the intended is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not use, copy, distribute or deliver to anyone this message (or any part of its contents ) or take any action in reliance on it. In such case, you should destroy this message, and notify us immediately. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or telephone and delete the e-mail from any computer. If you or your employer does not consent to internet e-mail messages of this kind, please notify us immediately. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail. As our company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments we recommend that you subject these to your virus checking procedures prior to use. The views, opinions, conclusions and other information expressed in this electronic mail are not given or endorsed by the company unless otherwise indicated by an authorized representative independent of this message. -Original Message- From: CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Date: 11/20/14 03:41 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Low Voltage Battery Disconnect I have a couple Emerson 211 Rectifier shelves without the LVLD. In order to protect my battery string, I am looking for a low voltage battery disconnect that will disconnect the battery string when voltage drops below ~42V and reconnect it when the rectifier comes back online so the batteries will charge. Any suggestions for a ~20A system? Thanks, Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] outlook becomes intermittent in satellite office
MTU on the VDSL link. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/mtu-causing-outlook-disconnect-40926.html On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is a bizarre set of symptoms, and I really don't know what is going on. So I will articulate the facts, and maybe one of you can tell me what might be wrong. We have a business subscriber that occupies several buildings. The buildings are separated by enough distance that we have to interconnect by means other than vanilla ethernet. Our service is delivered to their main office. Our SM is installed there (PMP450), plus a Mikrotik router on ROS 5.26. The Mikrotik manages 4 VLANs; 1 business VLAN, which is bridged to the main subnet in the main office. The other 3 VLANs are guest VLANs; each on their own (private) subnet. All the computers, etc. work fine in the main office. The main office is connected to the guest building with a VDSL modem (~~ 800' phone line between buildings). Not much occurs in the guest building; it has a couple of WiFi APs for the guests. In the guest building, we've installed an RB260GS switch. It divides the various ports out to 4 different VLANs. A couple ports are the business VLAN, plus 3 different guest VLANs. The SFP port on the RB260GS is used to connect to the satellite office another couple hundred yards beyond the guest building. The SFP port is on the business VLAN. At the satellite office, they have 2 computers. Everything on the 2 computers in the satellite office seems to work just fine. Web browsing, streaming youtube, etc. However, when they run Outlook, some email doesn't go to the destination. As far as we can tell, it gets to their off-site SMTP server (Globat), but some of it doesn't ever reach its destination. If they use their web-based email, the email works every time. Also, the POP part of the email works just like you'd expect. Today, we moved one of the computers back to the main office, and surprise, surprise, Outlook starts working just like it's supposed to. We've run extended ping tests between the satellite office and the main office, and there is no break in the link. It seems solid. So where/how is the SMTP part of email breaking? What tests can I run to figure this out? -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork
I’m going to second paperless. We just use google drive with a folder for open sales orders and a folder for completed sales orders. In the office, we just save new sales orders to the open folder. Tech opens them on an iPad mini, has the customer sign them, and saves them to completed. WAY easier then trying to track down paper and then file it. Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS On Oct 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Jason Pond via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So the going paperless is way easier than you think. Buy a signature pad like a Topaz Sig Lite (usb) send with installer. Your contract is probably already in PDF form. Create Information boxes and add a signature field. This can be done with Acrobat reader I think. They save on the computer have installer download or e-mail them in at the end of the day. The installer can even e-mail a copy to the customer right there while they are still onsite. (two things good about that. You know you have the right e-mail address and the installer knows that the internet is working). If the customer wants a signed copy they can have one e-mailed to them at the end of the day after the installer gets back to the office. No matter what you do an in-vehicle printer will be problematic forever they were not designed for that environment. (cheaper in the long run to go paperless sooner than later)... Sincerely, Jason Pond On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Ben Royer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Quick poll question... For those of you still using paper in the field for your technicians to have customers sign, do you use printers in the vehicles? If yes to that question, which printer do you recommend? We use a basic HP Deskjet scanner/copier/printer, so the client can sign the paperwork and then we can make a copy for them in the field. However, they are not very durable to the every day use of our field techs. I’ve even had them brought in because they are jammed and we find things like a mustard packet inside them. Now, the obvious go paperless argument is null at this point as we are putting a plan in place to get there someday, but until then, what would you all recommend for paperwork printing in the field? Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Supervisor Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
At the risk of getting my testicals chopped off, I’d recommend wall mounting if you can. SBWM-412 from Sitepro is $150 and the HWK58 for mounting is ~$30. Throw in 6’ 0f 4-1/2” pipe for $160 and your looking at a solid mount for $340 that takes less time to install then it would take to lug the concrete up to secure a non-pen with a 4-1/2” pipe on it. If you need to use a non-pen, Id use: http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20(Assembly).pdf with a 4-1/2” pipe. Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read in a long time :-) Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast – but I’d steer away from anything with less than a 4” OD mast for a 4ft antenna. Rohn makes a similar one, and Baird has a few options. image001.jpg Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have. I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2 deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics to it) We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4 antenna at the top. Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4 parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint. The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to determine LOS
I use Google Earth Pro to get a good idea and then calculate fresnel clearance to anything close. Not perfect as we don’t have all the buildings modeled in 3d and it doesn’t have too many 3d trees but it helps a lot. On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:27 PM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to do a ptp shot but can't tell if I have clear LOS, any tricks with a telescope or something I can do without someone on the other side with a mirror or laser?
Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit
Why not just pull one 100 pair OSP? That should equal 25 individual runs. http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/Product_Information/Premises_Copper/MEGAPIC_CAT5.pdf Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Randy Cosby via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a project that has about 50 feet of 2 metal conduit running to the top of a water tank. There are two large-radius bends in the conduit. We want to pull as many cat5e cables as possible. We'll need at least 18. I found this table and compared the size of UBNT Toughcable. It looks to be in the same size range as the GigaLAN Cat6E cable, about .24. Based on their table, we should be able to pull 27 cables through. How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? There are actually two conduits, but we will need to put some coax in the second one, but should have room for a few more ethernet cables as well. -- Mail Attachment.png Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
