[AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread Paul McCall via Af
We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are going to 
really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum overlap... more 
than we did with 100 series, because of the SNR requirements.  I assume 2.4 450 
would have similar requirements.

So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online tool for 
this?

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net



Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Trig?  Tangent?
How far out do you want to focus the main lobe?
Take the tower height, divided by that distance (both in the same units) and do 
the arctan of that.

So if the tower was 200 feet, and you want to target a spot 2 miles away, 
arctan(200/10560)=1 degree



From: Paul McCall via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are going to 
really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum overlap… more than 
we did with 100 series, because of the SNR requirements.  I assume 2.4 450 
would have similar requirements.

 

So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online tool for 
this?

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com

pa...@pdmnet.net

 


Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Moffett via Af


That's the method I've generally used. You can further calculate based 
on the vertical beamwidth where the outer edge of the -3db coverage 
circle would land, and where the inner edge would land.  Then you can 
attempt to visualize it.


I feel like somebody once linked to an online map tool that would show 
you a simple visualization of where your sector would cover.   I can't 
think of who or when now.



Trig?  Tangent?
How far out do you want to focus the main lobe?
Take the tower height, divided by that distance (both in the same 
units) and do the arctan of that.

So if the tower was 200 feet, and you want to target a spot 2 miles away,
arctan(200/10560)=1 degree
*From:* Paul McCall via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:13 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are 
going to really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum 
overlap… more than we did with 100 series, because of the SNR 
requirements.  I assume 2.4 450 would have similar requirements.


So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online 
tool for this?


Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net





Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread That One Guy via Af
arctan sounds like a villain from he-ma

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Trig?  Tangent?
 How far out do you want to focus the main lobe?
 Take the tower height, divided by that distance (both in the same units)
 and do the arctan of that.

 So if the tower was 200 feet, and you want to target a spot 2 miles away,
 arctan(200/10560)=1 degree



  *From:* Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:13 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt tool


 We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are going
 to really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum overlap…
 more than we did with 100 series, because of the SNR requirements.  I
 assume 2.4 450 would have similar requirements.



 So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online tool
 for this?



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net






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Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Adam,

That’s what I was thinking also.  That would be handy

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool


That's the method I've generally used.  You can further calculate based on the 
vertical beamwidth where the outer edge of the -3db coverage circle would land, 
and where the inner edge would land.  Then you can attempt to visualize it.

I feel like somebody once linked to an online map tool that would show you a 
simple visualization of where your sector would cover.   I can't think of who 
or when now.
Trig?  Tangent?
How far out do you want to focus the main lobe?
Take the tower height, divided by that distance (both in the same units) and do 
the arctan of that.

So if the tower was 200 feet, and you want to target a spot 2 miles away,
arctan(200/10560)=1 degree



From: Paul McCall via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:13 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are going to 
really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum overlap… more than 
we did with 100 series, because of the SNR requirements.  I assume 2.4 450 
would have similar requirements.

So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online tool for 
this?

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net




Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool

2014-10-14 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Teletronics had a cool utility for this

Jaime Solorza
On Oct 14, 2014 9:22 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Adam,



 That’s what I was thinking also.  That would be handy



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett via
 Af
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:20 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt tool





 That's the method I've generally used.  You can further calculate based on
 the vertical beamwidth where the outer edge of the -3db coverage circle
 would land, and where the inner edge would land.  Then you can attempt to
 visualize it.

 I feel like somebody once linked to an online map tool that would show you
 a simple visualization of where your sector would cover.   I can't think of
 who or when now.

   Trig?  Tangent?

 How far out do you want to focus the main lobe?

 Take the tower height, divided by that distance (both in the same units)
 and do the arctan of that.



 So if the tower was 200 feet, and you want to target a spot 2 miles away,

 arctan(200/10560)=1 degree







 *From:* Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:13 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Downtilt tool



 We have upgraded a bunch of towers to ePMP (2.4) are finding we are going
 to really be more exacting with our downtilts to avoid spectrum overlap…
 more than we did with 100 series, because of the SNR requirements.  I
 assume 2.4 450 would have similar requirements.



 So, I want to map out my down-tilt plans .  Is there a good online tool
 for this?



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net