Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

[Steve D via Af]

Google is doing a lot of fancy things under the hood too.  I can't really
get why, but they're using data-href
<https://github.com/nathanford/data-href/> which probably lets them do
fancy styling, selection things, I could only speculate but it's probably
something to do with how the javascript generates the page, but they could
be repurposing it to track you and be cross compatible across devices and
desktops.  Nefarious purposes?  Useful compatibility tricks?  No way to
tell without being a javascript/html expert and I'm about 10 years out of
date in that department... :p

That said, if it really bothers you, inspect a link in duckduckgo... it's a
lot more readable!

-Steve D

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af  wrote:

>   So why when I inspect the source for a link that appears to go to
> http://www.wispa.org/ do I see this:
>
>  href="
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wispa.org%2F&ei=S3EbVLi4Iaa78QHTuYGIBw&usg=AFQjCNEVUAuzl5-AVZjw7h8eAshpd7DBNQ&bvm=bv.75774317,d.cWc";
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wispa.org%2F&ei=S3EbVLi4Iaa78QHTuYGIBw&usg=AFQjCNEVUAuzl5-AVZjw7h8eAshpd7DBNQ&bvm=bv.75774317,d.cWc%22>>WISPA:
> Home
>
> And you see the strange URL briefly in the address bar of your browser.
> Is this for data mining?  Or pre-caching the pages it thinks you might
> click on?
>
>
>  *From:* Sterling Jacobson via Af 
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
>
>
> It might be your internet is slow (ducks)!
>
>
>
> My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover over
> them don’t contain any back tracking.
>
>
>
> Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware?
>
>
>
> Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized?
>
>
>
> These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the fastest
> internet look super slow.
>
>
>
> Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Ken Hohhof via Af
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
>
>
>
> Also it seems like Google has become sloow.  The links are now
> some humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more
> data mining now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out
> of your computer before sending your browser to the page in the search
> results.
>
>
>
> It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked
> directly to the page.
>
>
>
> I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed
> over the last year or so.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Markow via Af 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
>
>
>
> Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and
> worse, especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to
> purchase something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll
> give Bing a try.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Conlin via Af
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
>
>
>
> Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules?
> Specifically talking SM fiber.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is
> good for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km.  I get that LX-10 has twice the
> range due to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they
> compatible / interchangeable?  All specs I can find match up implying they
> are but I can’t specifically find word on compatibility.
>
>
>
> Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall?  It
> is getting much hard to find information other than prices. 
>
>
>
> PC
>
> Blaze Broadband
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged
> information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender
> immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies.
> Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the
> intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
>
>
>  --
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged
> information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender
> immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies.
> Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the
> intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

[Sterling Jacobson via Af]

Ah, you have a good point.

It is indeed sending information back to google.com.

Hovering over it shows the correct short URL, but the browser itself is 
obfuscating the tracking.

Doesn’t seem to affect speed for me, and I personally don’t care what google 
takes from my clicking on it. But it is sending stuff back.

Here is what my source shows:

http://www.wispa.org/";>WISPA: Home


From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

So why when I inspect the source for a link that appears to go to 
http://www.wispa.org/ do I see this:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wispa.org%2F&ei=S3EbVLi4Iaa78QHTuYGIBw&usg=AFQjCNEVUAuzl5-AVZjw7h8eAshpd7DBNQ&bvm=bv.75774317,d.cWc";<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wispa.org%2F&ei=S3EbVLi4Iaa78QHTuYGIBw&usg=AFQjCNEVUAuzl5-AVZjw7h8eAshpd7DBNQ&bvm=bv.75774317,d.cWc%22>>WISPA:
 Home

And you see the strange URL briefly in the address bar of your browser.  Is 
this for data mining?  Or pre-caching the pages it thinks you might click on?


From: Sterling Jacobson via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

It might be your internet is slow (ducks)!

My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover over them 
don’t contain any back tracking.

Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware?

Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized?

These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the fastest 
internet look super slow.

Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Also it seems like Google has become sloow.  The links are now some 
humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more data mining 
now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out of your computer 
before sending your browser to the page in the search results.

It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked directly 
to the page.

I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed over the 
last year or so.


From: Eric Markow via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and worse, 
especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to purchase 
something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try.

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules?  
Specifically talking SM fiber.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is good 
for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km.  I get that LX-10 has twice the range due 
to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they compatible / 
interchangeable?  All specs I can find match up implying they are but I can’t 
specifically find word on compatibility.

Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall?  It is 
getting much hard to find information other than prices. 

PC
Blaze Broadband



This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.


This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.

Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

So why when I inspect the source for a link that appears to go to 
http://www.wispa.org/ do I see this:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wispa.org%2F&ei=S3EbVLi4Iaa78QHTuYGIBw&usg=AFQjCNEVUAuzl5-AVZjw7h8eAshpd7DBNQ&bvm=bv.75774317,d.cWc";>WISPA:
 Home

And you see the strange URL briefly in the address bar of your browser.  Is 
this for data mining?  Or pre-caching the pages it thinks you might click on?


From: Sterling Jacobson via Af 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

It might be your internet is slow (ducks)!

 

My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover over them 
don’t contain any back tracking.

 

Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware?

 

Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized?

 

These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the fastest 
internet look super slow.

 

Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

 

Also it seems like Google has become sloow.  The links are now some 
humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more data mining 
now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out of your computer 
before sending your browser to the page in the search results.

 

It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked directly 
to the page.

 

I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed over the 
last year or so.

 

 

From: Eric Markow via Af 

Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

 

Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and worse, 
especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to purchase 
something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

 

Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules?  
Specifically talking SM fiber.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is good 
for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km.  I get that LX-10 has twice the range due 
to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they compatible / 
interchangeable?  All specs I can find match up implying they are but I can’t 
specifically find word on compatibility.

 

Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall?  It is 
getting much hard to find information other than prices. 

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 

 




This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.

 




This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.

Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

[Josh Reynolds via Af]

(this)

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/18/2014 03:40 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:


It might be your internet is slow (ducks)!

My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover 
over them don’t contain any back tracking.


Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware?

Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized?

These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the 
fastest internet look super slow.


Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers

*From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof via Af

*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Also it seems like Google has become sloow.  The links are 
now some humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a 
lot more data mining now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all 
the data out of your computer before sending your browser to the page 
in the search results.


It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked 
directly to the page.


I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed 
over the last year or so.


*From:*Eric Markow via Af 

*Sent:*Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and 
worse, especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not 
necessarily to purchase something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, 
but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Paul Conlin via Af

*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP 
modules? Specifically talking SM fiber. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 
is good for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km.  I get that LX-10 has 
twice the range due to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 
5km are they compatible / interchangeable?  All specs I can find match 
up implying they are but I can’t specifically find word on compatibility.


Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall?  
It is getting much hard to find information other than prices. 


PC

Blaze Broadband



This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and 
privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please 
notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and 
destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a 
person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be 
illegal.




This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and 
privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please 
notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and 
destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a 
person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be 
illegal.

Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

[Sterling Jacobson via Af]

It might be your internet is slow (ducks)!

My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover over them 
don’t contain any back tracking.

Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware?

Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized?

These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the fastest 
internet look super slow.

Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Also it seems like Google has become sloow.  The links are now some 
humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more data mining 
now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out of your computer 
before sending your browser to the page in the search results.

It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked directly 
to the page.

I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed over the 
last year or so.


From: Eric Markow via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and worse, 
especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to purchase 
something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try.

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility

Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules?  
Specifically talking SM fiber.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is good 
for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km.  I get that LX-10 has twice the range due 
to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they compatible / 
interchangeable?  All specs I can find match up implying they are but I can’t 
specifically find word on compatibility.

Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall?  It is 
getting much hard to find information other than prices. 

PC
Blaze Broadband



This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.


This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged 
information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender 
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any 
dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended 
recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.