[AFMUG] Installer attire
I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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Provide company logo sweatshirts and jackets? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 08:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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I think it depends on your customers. Here in Utah, camo attire would be completely appropriate. Although, I'd prefer camo attire with our company logo on it. I chose a bold color and purchased all of the clothing in that color. We have hats, beanies, hoodies, long sleeve, and short sleeve. I also purchased some white short sleeve shirts and did the digital full-color print logo on those. In the winter I wear a Black Carhart with the logo embroidered on it. I think branding is important. If camo is your brand then go for it! If not, buy them some clothes. I have been more satisfied with the finished product using screenprinting versus full color digital prints. They always seem to end up looking washed out and not nearly as bold as I would like them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:40 AM, canopy--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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However... the goal is to not frighten the little old lady/young mother. Actually, the goal is to make all customers feel very comfortable and trusting. Not suggesting a pair of young men with white shirts, ties and name tags, but there is a good reason to look presentable. Camo will make some uneasy. From: Jeremy via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire I think it depends on your customers. Here in Utah, camo attire would be completely appropriate. Although, I'd prefer camo attire with our company logo on it. I chose a bold color and purchased all of the clothing in that color. We have hats, beanies, hoodies, long sleeve, and short sleeve. I also purchased some white short sleeve shirts and did the digital full-color print logo on those. In the winter I wear a Black Carhart with the logo embroidered on it. I think branding is important. If camo is your brand then go for it! If not, buy them some clothes. I have been more satisfied with the finished product using screenprinting versus full color digital prints. They always seem to end up looking washed out and not nearly as bold as I would like them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:40 AM, canopy--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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We may be doing that. Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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Both are probably true. Our marketing department has to approve all survey/install attire. Survey attire is not the same as install attire, but I don't believe that a camo hoodie would be approved for either one. bp On 9/25/2014 8:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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I bitch about my boss alot, but he is good about our attire, he gives a christmas bonus that can be used to buy extra winter gear and he provides polos, sweatshirts, zippered hoodies, and tshirts from Lands End, theyre freaking durable He has looked into logod coats before but figures if its so cold you need one or coveralls you should wear what works best for you, besides when its that cold out, the customers normally arent outside looking at your attire logo The main thing that matters is the condition of the attire, a camo hoodie if its appropriate for the weather and theres a logod shirt under it is good so long as its clean and not full of holes. installer/techs shouldnt look homeless. Now if youre talking indoor work, or network services work, thats a different story, camo is not professional and doesnt belong indoors On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think it depends on your customers. Here in Utah, camo attire would be completely appropriate. Although, I'd prefer camo attire with our company logo on it. I chose a bold color and purchased all of the clothing in that color. We have hats, beanies, hoodies, long sleeve, and short sleeve. I also purchased some white short sleeve shirts and did the digital full-color print logo on those. In the winter I wear a Black Carhart with the logo embroidered on it. I think branding is important. If camo is your brand then go for it! If not, buy them some clothes. I have been more satisfied with the finished product using screenprinting versus full color digital prints. They always seem to end up looking washed out and not nearly as bold as I would like them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:40 AM, canopy--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire
I dunnoNew York State sells something like a million hunting licenses per year. I don't imagine those million or so people are all wearing camo to work. I think I've got to put on my boss pants and tell him to get a different sweatshirt. I think it depends on your customers. Here in Utah, camo attire would be completely appropriate. Although, I'd prefer camo attire with our company logo on it. I chose a bold color and purchased all of the clothing in that color. We have hats, beanies, hoodies, long sleeve, and short sleeve. I also purchased some white short sleeve shirts and did the digital full-color print logo on those. In the winter I wear a Black Carhart with the logo embroidered on it. I think branding is important. If camo is your brand then go for it! If not, buy them some clothes. I have been more satisfied with the finished product using screenprinting versus full color digital prints. They always seem to end up looking washed out and not nearly as bold as I would like them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:40 AM, canopy--- via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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Sorry, it's more detailed than that: http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs16.pdf Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:32 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: If a company sweatshirt or jacket is required for wear (or any uniform), you must provide them. USDoL code. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 07:40 AM, canopy--- via Af wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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If you buy solid uniforms from somewhere like Lands End, the long term cost is pretty low. I have polos that are 5 years old that I can still wear on site work and installs. They have faded some, but they show very few stains and dont tear easily. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I worked for places that provided the first set and then you had to buy replacements (from them).� Not saying I would do that, but I'm wondering if they were doing it wrong. If a company sweatshirt or jacket is required for wear (or any uniform), you must provide them. USDoL code. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 07:40 AM, canopy--- via Af wrote: Give them (or make them buy) sweatshirts and jackets with your logo on them. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket. Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots. Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed. You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional. You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all. Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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seal blubber causes paranoia From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire Gonna flip this on it's head... Here in Alaska, if you are wearing a uniform from any company that isn't a local utility, you are immediately untrusted. People here would rather do business with guys operating out of an unmarked truck that they've known their entire lives than working out of some fancy whole-logo-wrapped truck with uniform standards and tons of paperwork. Just something I've learned since being here... it's a different world. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:54 AM, Keefe John via Af wrote: We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket.� Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots.� Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed.� You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional.� You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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We have those here LOL On 09/25/2014 02:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: What about guys with Duck Dynasty style beards? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Gonna flip this on it's head... Here in Alaska, if you are wearing a uniform from any company that isn't a local utility, you are immediately untrusted. People here would rather do business with guys operating out of an unmarked truck that they've known their entire lives than working out of some fancy whole-logo-wrapped truckwith uniform standards and tons of paperwork. Just something I've learned since being here... it's a different world. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:54 AM, Keefe John via Af wrote: We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket.� Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots.� Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed.� You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional.� You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
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This is true. ryan (a normally bearded guy) On 9/25/14 3:28 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: If you don't have a beard in Alaska, you are untrusted. (Even the women!) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 11:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: What about guys with Duck Dynasty style beards? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Gonna flip this on it's head... Here in Alaska, if you are wearing a uniform from any company that isn't a local utility, you are immediately untrusted. People here would rather do business with guys operating out of an unmarked truck that they've known their entire lives than working out of some fancy whole-logo-wrapped truckwith uniform standards and tons of paperwork. Just something I've learned since being here... it's a different world. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:54 AM, Keefe John via Af wrote: We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket.� Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots.� Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed.� You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional.� You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart. -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
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You don't trust women without beards? From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire This is true. ryan (a normally bearded guy) On 9/25/14 3:28 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: If you don't have a beard in Alaska, you are untrusted. (Even the women!) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 11:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: What about guys with Duck Dynasty style beards? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.netmailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Gonna flip this on it's head... Here in Alaska, if you are wearing a uniform from any company that isn't a local utility, you are immediately untrusted. People here would rather do business with guys operating out of an unmarked truck that they've known their entire lives than working out of some fancy whole-logo-wrapped truckwith uniform standards and tons of paperwork. Just something I've learned since being here... it's a different world. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:54 AM, Keefe John via Af wrote: We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket.� Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots.� Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed.� You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional.� You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart. -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.netmailto:rsp...@irongoat.net Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 0148ae4c392f-f3075a80-7b53-41c0-80f9-07b0ac77dfaa-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2637091079domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2637091079domain=litewire.net this sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2637091079domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2637091079domain=litewire.net amazonses.com / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2637091079domain=litewire.net amazonses.com enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.