Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd look at Zimbra. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:27:49 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options 

I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that 
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage. So he can go back 
and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the 
job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish 
this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some 
overhead. Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, 
RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone 
has used an External JBOD enclosure for this? I'm thinking like a DROBO 
unit or similar. Any Caveats to watch out for? Is there too much disk 
IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt 
connection? What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch 
of storage in a single volume for the NVR? 

Nate 




Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I think they make 10TB drives now. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:58:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options 


They make 6tb drives now? So you only need 1 drive then, right? 


On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Rory McCann  rmm.li...@gmail.com  wrote: 


+1 

One of the companies I work with does a lot of video surveillance. They were 
using iSCSI Buffalo TeraStations for one of the jobs (50+ cameras for a 
Casino). 

Rory McCann 
MKAP Technology Solutions 
Web: www.mkap.net 



On 7/14/2015 12:41 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote: 

blockquote
A 2-3TB HD should be all you need for over 30 days of storage with motion-based 
recording... Put the triggers to be sensitive, there is no reason to be 
recording when absolutely nothing changes on screen. 

--Original Message-- 
From: Nate Burke 
Sender: Af 
To: Animal Farm 
ReplyTo: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options 
Sent: Jul 14, 2015 12:27 PM 

I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that 
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage. So he can go back 
and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the 
job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish 
this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some 
overhead. Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, 
RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone 
has used an External JBOD enclosure for this? I'm thinking like a DROBO 
unit or similar. Any Caveats to watch out for? Is there too much disk 
IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt 
connection? What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch 
of storage in a single volume for the NVR? 

Nate 






/blockquote




[AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Nate Burke
I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that 
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back 
and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the 
job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish 
this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some 
overhead.  Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, 
RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone 
has used an External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO 
unit or similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk 
IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt 
connection?  What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch 
of storage in a single volume for the NVR?


Nate



Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread TJ Trout
They make 6tb drives now? So you only need 1 drive then, right?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 One of the companies I work with does a lot of video surveillance. They
 were using iSCSI Buffalo TeraStations for one of the jobs (50+ cameras for
 a Casino).

 Rory McCann
 MKAP Technology Solutions
 Web: www.mkap.net


 On 7/14/2015 12:41 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote:

 A 2-3TB HD should be all you need for over 30 days of storage with
 motion-based recording... Put the triggers to be sensitive, there is no
 reason to be recording when absolutely nothing changes on screen.

 --Original Message--
 From: Nate Burke
 Sender: Af
 To: Animal Farm
 ReplyTo: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options
 Sent: Jul 14, 2015 12:27 PM

 I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that
 want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back
 and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the
 job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish
 this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some
 overhead.  Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays,
 RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone
 has used an External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO
 unit or similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk
 IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt
 connection?  What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch
 of storage in a single volume for the NVR?

 Nate






Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If its to avoid claims, affordable has a whole lot more wiggle room.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that
 want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back and
 check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the job. My
 Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish this, so I'd
 like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some overhead.  Rather than
 building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, RAID Card and
 mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone has used an
 External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO unit or
 similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk IO to have
 this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt connection?  What other
 (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch of storage in a single
 volume for the NVR?

 Nate




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Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread cstanners
A 2-3TB HD should be all you need for over 30 days of storage with motion-based 
recording... Put the triggers to be sensitive, there is no reason to be 
recording when absolutely nothing changes on screen.

--Original Message--
From: Nate Burke
Sender: Af
To: Animal Farm
ReplyTo: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options
Sent: Jul 14, 2015 12:27 PM

I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that 
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back 
and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the 
job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish 
this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some 
overhead.  Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, 
RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone 
has used an External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO 
unit or similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk 
IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt 
connection?  What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch 
of storage in a single volume for the NVR?

Nate




Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Rory McCann

+1

One of the companies I work with does a lot of video surveillance. They 
were using iSCSI Buffalo TeraStations for one of the jobs (50+ cameras 
for a Casino).


Rory McCann
MKAP Technology Solutions
Web: www.mkap.net

On 7/14/2015 12:41 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote:

A 2-3TB HD should be all you need for over 30 days of storage with motion-based 
recording... Put the triggers to be sensitive, there is no reason to be 
recording when absolutely nothing changes on screen.

--Original Message--
From: Nate Burke
Sender: Af
To: Animal Farm
ReplyTo: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options
Sent: Jul 14, 2015 12:27 PM

I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back
and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the
job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish
this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some
overhead.  Rather than building out a server with a bunch of drive bays,
RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone
has used an External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO
unit or similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk
IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt
connection?  What other (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch
of storage in a single volume for the NVR?

Nate






Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Ask your customer what risk they want to take.

If they are OK (and sign off on) the fact they might loose a bunch of 
data due to a JBOD disk failure then go for it..


Otherwise, networked attached or direct attached RAID.

ryan


On 7/14/15 10:27 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that 
want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go 
back and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on 
the job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to 
accomplish this, so I'd like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for 
some overhead.  Rather than building out a server with a bunch of 
drive bays, RAID Card and mirroring/striping drives etc, I was 
wondering if anyone has used an External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm 
thinking like a DROBO unit or similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  
Is there too much disk IO to have this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, 
or Thunderbolt connection?  What other (Affordable) options am I 
missing to get a bunch of storage in a single volume for the NVR?


Nate




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PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047



Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Two 6 TB disks.  Synology NAS.  Mirror raid.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:04 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote:

 Ask your customer what risk they want to take.

 If they are OK (and sign off on) the fact they might loose a bunch of data
 due to a JBOD disk failure then go for it..

 Otherwise, networked attached or direct attached RAID.

 ryan



 On 7/14/15 10:27 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that
 want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage.  So he can go back and
 check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the job. My
 Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish this, so I'd
 like the server to have 6-8tb of storage for some overhead.  Rather than
 building out a server with a bunch of drive bays, RAID Card and
 mirroring/striping drives etc, I was wondering if anyone has used an
 External JBOD enclosure for this?  I'm thinking like a DROBO unit or
 similar.  Any Caveats to watch out for?  Is there too much disk IO to have
 this work well over a LAN, USB 3.0, or Thunderbolt connection?  What other
 (Affordable) options am I missing to get a bunch of storage in a single
 volume for the NVR?

 Nate



 --
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
 425-939-0047