Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Huh? They are getting hit with $150 million in fines. Big deal. It's 
still one of Buffet's largest holdings, and still pays a 3% dividend... 
and the stock is actually up today. :)


Travis


On 9/8/2016 8:30 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investing/wells-fargo-created-phony-accounts-bank-fees/index.html

Well done Chuck :)

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

I am buying Tesla in the morning.  Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo to
do it.




Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investing/wells-fargo-created-phony-accounts-bank-fees/index.html

Well done Chuck :)

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> I am buying Tesla in the morning.  Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo to
> do it.


Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
Isn’t the old expression something like buy on the rumor, sell on the news?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

http://bgr.com/2016/09/06/apple-event-iphone-7-iphone-7-plus-apple-watch-macbook-pro/

I would think it will open high and move up a bit.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

What, because their batteries don’t explode?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Anyone buy Apple today?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-06 Thread chuck
http://bgr.com/2016/09/06/apple-event-iphone-7-iphone-7-plus-apple-watch-macbook-pro/

I would think it will open high and move up a bit.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

What, because their batteries don’t explode?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Anyone buy Apple today?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
What, because their batteries don’t explode?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Anyone buy Apple today?

[AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-06 Thread chuck
Anyone buy Apple today?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Shooting for a 488

Get Outlook for iOS




On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:02 PM -0400, "Jason McKemie" 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:










Yeah, the tb is a nice car as well. The 355's demand a bit more - although 
still not too bad if you've got the money for that sort of thing.

On Friday, September 2, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I Love the 348tb and the 355 

Get Outlook for iOS




On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 6:34 PM -0400, "Jason McKemie" 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:










You can get my favorite Ferrari, a 348TS, for less than $50K. That's a 25 year 
old car though. You'd have to find a pretty low demand Lamborghini to get onto 
that price bracket - probably wouldn't want it. I'm interested if someone knows 
where to get legal late models of either of those for under $50K - might start 
a used car business :-)

On Friday, September 2, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
where do i get a ferrari or lambo for $50k? 
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

  

  
  
The Model 3 is going to be a mess for their stock, once it actually
releases in 2018.



"Starting price of $35,000"... but that is a bare-bones model, and
includes the Fed tax break... which by the time they actually
release cars, their allotted amount of tax credits may already be
used up by their current cars. I'll bet more than half of the people
ask for their deposits back once they see the car is $50,000.



I've driven BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Ferrari, and even a
Lamborghini for a test drive, and there are much better cars for
$50k than what this Model 3 will be. There are WAY better cars than
their current Model S for $100k+. The whole company is riding the
"hype train" and at some point, it will run out of track. They can't
keep losing $10k on every car they sell and stay in business
forever.



Travis





On 9/2/2016 11:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:



  
  
  
  
  

  You have the model 3 coming out in the next year.� I am
pretty sure you will see it take a jump for that event.
  Right now I am trying to take advantage of the solar city
acquisition and rocket explosion.� 
  

  �
  
From: Chris Wright 
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:05 AM
    To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock
  

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TSLA prices feel so predictable right now.
  Every quarter change they tank because the books are
  so dire. Every mid-quarter they ride the hype train
  all the way back up when Elon does another update or
  unveiling. 
  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I sort of agree with you on the model 3. But for the model S, it's great in
its market niche. If I were in the market for an Audi A8, BMW 750 or large
Mercedes S-class, the full size luxury sedans they're competing with...

In Vancouver and Seattle I have seen considerably fewer full size gasoline
luxury cars and a lot more new model S driving around in the last 2 years.

I would rather buy a model S/P100D and enjoy ludicrous mode.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

> The Model 3 is going to be a mess for their stock, once it actually
> releases in 2018.
>
> "Starting price of $35,000"... but that is a bare-bones model, and
> includes the Fed tax break... which by the time they actually release cars,
> their allotted amount of tax credits may already be used up by their
> current cars. I'll bet more than half of the people ask for their deposits
> back once they see the car is $50,000.
>
> I've driven BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Ferrari, and even a Lamborghini
> for a test drive, and there are much better cars for $50k than what this
> Model 3 will be. There are WAY better cars than their current Model S for
> $100k+. The whole company is riding the "hype train" and at some point, it
> will run out of track. They can't keep losing $10k on every car they sell
> and stay in business forever.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 9/2/2016 11:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> You have the model 3 coming out in the next year.� I am pretty sure you
> will see it take a jump for that event.
> Right now I am trying to take advantage of the solar city acquisition and
> rocket explosion.�
> �
> *From:* Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 2, 2016 11:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock
> �
>
> TSLA prices feel so predictable right now. Every quarter change they tank
> because the books are so dire. Every mid-quarter they ride the hype train
> all the way back up when Elon does another update or unveiling.
>
> �
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 9:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock
>
> �
>
> I think you will be safe to buy long term in the 185-195 range.� The
> chart is starting to push oversold.
>
> BTW.� Should have bought UBNT @ $26 when I was telling everyone it was a
> double down bet.
>
> �
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock
>
> �
>
> The short term thing is how I work TSLA.� Hopefully it will drop into
> the $190s today and I will hold it for a few months.� Get it back up in
> the $240s.
>
> �
>
> I just hate seeing Wells returning the lowest of my portfolio.� I have
> some nice index funds and others that are doing about 9%.�
>
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>
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>
> *From:* Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 8:01 AM
>
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>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock
>
> �
>
> Wells Fargo is paying a 3.0% dividend right now... Tesla pays nothing.
> Tesla is also highly overrated according to everyone in the stock market.
> If it's a short-term thing, you may do OK... long term, you have to factor
> in the 3% you were making on Wells ($1,500/year) and compound that into the
> value.
>
> Wells is still one of Warren Buffet's biggest holdings.
>
> Travis
>
> On 9/1/2016 5:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread chuck
You have the model 3 coming out in the next year.  I am pretty sure you will 
see it take a jump for that event.
Right now I am trying to take advantage of the solar city acquisition and 
rocket explosion.  

From: Chris Wright 
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

TSLA prices feel so predictable right now. Every quarter change they tank 
because the books are so dire. Every mid-quarter they ride the hype train all 
the way back up when Elon does another update or unveiling. 

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

 

I think you will be safe to buy long term in the 185-195 range.  The chart is 
starting to push oversold.

BTW.  Should have bought UBNT @ $26 when I was telling everyone it was a double 
down bet.

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

 

The short term thing is how I work TSLA.  Hopefully it will drop into the $190s 
today and I will hold it for a few months.  Get it back up in the $240s.

 

I just hate seeing Wells returning the lowest of my portfolio.  I have some 
nice index funds and others that are doing about 9%.  

 

 

From: Travis Johnson 

Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:01 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

 

Wells Fargo is paying a 3.0% dividend right now... Tesla pays nothing. Tesla is 
also highly overrated according to everyone in the stock market. If it's a 
short-term thing, you may do OK... long term, you have to factor in the 3% you 
were making on Wells ($1,500/year) and compound that into the value.

Wells is still one of Warren Buffet's biggest holdings.

Travis

On 9/1/2016 5:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I am buying Tesla in the morning.� Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo 
to do it.� 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread Chris Wright
TSLA prices feel so predictable right now. Every quarter change they tank 
because the books are so dire. Every mid-quarter they ride the hype train all 
the way back up when Elon does another update or unveiling.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

I think you will be safe to buy long term in the 185-195 range.  The chart is 
starting to push oversold.
BTW.  Should have bought UBNT @ $26 when I was telling everyone it was a double 
down bet.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

The short term thing is how I work TSLA.  Hopefully it will drop into the $190s 
today and I will hold it for a few months.  Get it back up in the $240s.

I just hate seeing Wells returning the lowest of my portfolio.  I have some 
nice index funds and others that are doing about 9%.


From: Travis Johnson<mailto:t...@ida.net>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Wells Fargo is paying a 3.0% dividend right now... Tesla pays nothing. Tesla is 
also highly overrated according to everyone in the stock market. If it's a 
short-term thing, you may do OK... long term, you have to factor in the 3% you 
were making on Wells ($1,500/year) and compound that into the value.

Wells is still one of Warren Buffet's biggest holdings.

Travis
On 9/1/2016 5:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am buying Tesla in the morning.� Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo to 
do it.�

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread chuck
Yes, it averages $75M per launch for insurance.  High risk and high reward.  
There is a whole insurance industry the focuses on catastrophic failure 
policies.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 9:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

I was wondering how (or if) they insure something like a satellite.

"Let's see, you have a $200 million payload sitting on a stack of 
explosivesyour insurance premium will be $220 mil please. "


-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/2/2016 11:22:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

  I shorted Sprint a few years ago and made some good money.

  Sitting on TSLA watching it drop.  I hope it goes to $150 or lower today. 

  Funny how people are like a flock of turkeys in a turkey confinement 
facility.  
  You walk into one of those, clap your hands and the place erupts.  
  That rocket failure was a handclap in the turkey barn.  And if I eat it, you 
can all experience shadenfreude...


  Got my whopping $350 dividend check from WFC and then dumped WFC yesterday.  

  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 9:13 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock


  Is anyone playing the Sprint game?  I bought in at $2.34 back in 2009 for 175 
shares.
  Sold some of that 5.63 back in 2011, it mus have split cause now i have 325 
after just
  buying 175 more...

  current trading price?  $6.27


- Original Message - 
From: Chuck McCown 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

The short term thing is how I work TSLA.  Hopefully it will drop into the 
$190s today and I will hold it for a few months.  Get it back up in the $240s.

I just hate seeing Wells returning the lowest of my portfolio.  I have some 
nice index funds and others that are doing about 9%.  


From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Wells Fargo is paying a 3.0% dividend right now... Tesla pays nothing. 
Tesla is also highly overrated according to everyone in the stock market. If 
it's a short-term thing, you may do OK... long term, you have to factor in the 
3% you were making on Wells ($1,500/year) and compound that into the value.

Wells is still one of Warren Buffet's biggest holdings.

Travis



On 9/1/2016 5:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I am buying Tesla in the morning.� Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells 
Fargo to do it.� 



Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-02 Thread Chuck McCown
The short term thing is how I work TSLA.  Hopefully it will drop into the $190s 
today and I will hold it for a few months.  Get it back up in the $240s.

I just hate seeing Wells returning the lowest of my portfolio.  I have some 
nice index funds and others that are doing about 9%.  


From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Wells Fargo is paying a 3.0% dividend right now... Tesla pays nothing. Tesla is 
also highly overrated according to everyone in the stock market. If it's a 
short-term thing, you may do OK... long term, you have to factor in the 3% you 
were making on Wells ($1,500/year) and compound that into the value.

Wells is still one of Warren Buffet's biggest holdings.

Travis



On 9/1/2016 5:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I am buying Tesla in the morning.� Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo 
to do it.� 



Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

2016-09-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Sounds like a good decision. I hate Wells Fargo.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 5:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Stock

I am buying Tesla in the morning.  Just dumped 1000 shares of Wells Fargo to do 
it.