[AFMUG] OTT
Really been enjoying some of the content on Pluto. All free.
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Sony VUE and Youtube TV have some kind of revenue share thing as well as a new customer bounty. I agree, I would prefer Real Choice, but I don’t want to have to have any servers and I don’t want to have to have a direct connection. If it can be VPNed into our network over the public internet then it is more attractive. I was an early supporter of Real Choice. I am just not betting on the long term viability of any IPTV type of offering with the big boys entering the OTT market. DirectTV NOW will have DVR in general release soon. Once that happens, I have no need for any of the other services. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 3:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Real Choice chose not complete with Sling, Vue or the others, they are not a complete TV offering. We chose to compete with Dish, Direct, Comcast, etc. Some day we will have OTT as well, when it is available without blackouts and missing channels. Hopefully that will be sooner rather than later. Right now we have a significantly more complete offering and more importantly, you can’t make any money selling those other products. Just my .02 Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Sling, Directv Now, Vue, YouTube TV all do this for me now. So plenty of cake out there for the eatin’ (But I am not eating carbs and sugar. ) From: Dave Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Weelll cant have my cake and eat it too On 09/29/2017 10:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But I want true OTT via the open internet, not via a private connection. From: Dave Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide. On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide. From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices.
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Real Choice chose not complete with Sling, Vue or the others, they are not a complete TV offering. We chose to compete with Dish, Direct, Comcast, etc. Some day we will have OTT as well, when it is available without blackouts and missing channels. Hopefully that will be sooner rather than later. Right now we have a significantly more complete offering and more importantly, you can’t make any money selling those other products. Just my .02 Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Sling, Directv Now, Vue, YouTube TV all do this for me now. So plenty of cake out there for the eatin’ (But I am not eating carbs and sugar. ) From: Dave Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Weelll cant have my cake and eat it too On 09/29/2017 10:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: But I want true OTT via the open internet, not via a private connection. From: Dave Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:28 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide. On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide. From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" mailto:timmer...@gmail.com>> To: mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch.
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Sling, Directv Now, Vue, YouTube TV all do this for me now.
So plenty of cake out there for the eatin’
(But I am not eating carbs and sugar. )
From: Dave
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Weelll cant have my cake and eat it too
On 09/29/2017 10:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
But I want true OTT via the open internet, not via a private connection.
From: Dave
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide.
On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the
plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the
record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet.
I like the directv style of guide.
From: Roger Timmerman
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first
payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV
that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically,
you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the
interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for
each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a
DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you
can skip ads faster than any other interface.
In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage
over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with
YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet +
YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps
Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the
non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle
of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel
distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ?
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Timmerman"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3
partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However,
Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system
I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user
interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take
the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought
my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube
TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will
be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again.
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and
still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and
needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle
packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it
goes to lower quality or buffers nicely.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote:
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs?
If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content
provider are you working with?
We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution.
Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip
and some video with our higher tier package.
--
--
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Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Weelll cant have my cake and eat it too
On 09/29/2017 10:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
But I want true OTT via the open internet, not via a private connection.
*From:* Dave
*Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 6:28 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide.
On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit
the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series
as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless
I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide.
*From:* Roger Timmerman
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your
first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly
on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has
an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super
remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live
video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is
super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows
you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads
faster than any other interface.
In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge
advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing
relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle
250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3
streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus
YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT
offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle
of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network
channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than
dealing with the mafia.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ?
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Timmerman"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still
promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and
Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is
way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels,
network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than
anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take
the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by
storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet
but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking
out if available in your area.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak
wrote:
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service
that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client
devices.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411
<http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411>
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on.
Never again.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long
process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their
system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific
network features to support that. Also will NOT handle
packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not
like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers
nicely.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave
wrote:
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs?
If so, What are some issues you deal with and which
content provider are you working with?
We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this
solution.
Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to
provide voip and some video with our higher tier package.
--
--
--
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
But I want true OTT via the open internet, not via a private connection.
From: Dave
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide.
On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus
button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the
record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet.
I like the directv style of guide.
From: Roger Timmerman
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first
payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV
that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically,
you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the
interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for
each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a
DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you
can skip ads faster than any other interface.
In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage
over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with
YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet +
YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps
Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the
non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle
of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel
distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ?
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Timmerman"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3
partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However,
Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system
I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user
interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take
the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought
my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube
TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be
able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again.
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and
still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and
needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle
packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it
goes to lower quality or buffers nicely.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote:
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs?
If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider
are you working with?
We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution.
Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and
some video with our higher tier package.
--
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Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
This is why we are looking at realchoice or rodeo. Both have good concepts of delivery and offer whitelabel as well and all you want in channel line up including locals. On 09/28/2017 07:09 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Agreed. Disney, CBS, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Seth Mattinen" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:46:22 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV On 9/27/17 2:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to > start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing > it, such as HBO. It's starting to get annoying though where everyone is starting to offer their own online streaming service and pulling their content from other services. ~Seth --
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Realchoice and Rodeo both have that kind of guide.
On 09/27/2017 04:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit
the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series
as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless
I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide.
*From:* Roger Timmerman
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your
first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on
my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an
Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super
remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live
video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is
super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows
you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads
faster than any other interface.
In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge
advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing
relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle
250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams,
6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for
$113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also
require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local
broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution
rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ?
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Timmerman"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still
promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and
Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is
way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels,
network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than
anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take
the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by
storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet
but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking
out if available in your area.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service
that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client
devices.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411
<http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411>
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on.
Never again.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long
process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their
system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific
network features to support that. Also will NOT handle
packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not
like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers
nicely.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave
wrote:
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs?
If so, What are some issues you deal with and which
content provider are you working with?
We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this
solution.
Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to
provide voip and some video with our higher tier package.
--
--
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
I still prefer that to the other way around, though. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/27/17 2:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > >> There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to >> start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, >> such as HBO. >> > > > It's starting to get annoying though where everyone is starting to offer > their own online streaming service and pulling their content from other > services. > > ~Seth >
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Agreed. Disney, CBS, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:46:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV On 9/27/17 2:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to > start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing > it, such as HBO. It's starting to get annoying though where everyone is starting to offer their own online streaming service and pulling their content from other services. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
On 9/27/17 2:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, such as HBO. It's starting to get annoying though where everyone is starting to offer their own online streaming service and pulling their content from other services. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Directvnow has Syfy... I'm not sure if any of the others do or not, but I would assume so. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I'd like to have Syfy OTT, that's not an option yet, is it? > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > >> I get all my favorite pay channels on OTT now. >> >> *From:* Jason McKemie >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:52 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> >> There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to >> start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, >> such as HBO. >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, wrote: >> >>> Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now >>> have it. >>> >>> I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a >>> series recording and find it later. >>> >>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>> >>> Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? >>> >>> *From:* Roger Timmerman >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>> >>> Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your >>> first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my >>> Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple >>> TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super >>> remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video >>> feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). >>> While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of >>> where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other >>> interface. >>> >>> In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge >>> advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing >>> relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps >>> Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) >>> for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's >>> about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, >>> not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission >>> agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far >>> worse than dealing with the mafia. >>> >>> Roger >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < >>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? >>>> >>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>>> >>>> - Reply message - >>>> From: "Roger Timmerman" >>>> To: >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>>> Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM >>>> >>>> We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 >>>> partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. >>>> However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other >>>> OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a >>>> much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I >>>> think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network >>>> channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty >>>> sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out >>>> if available in your area. >>>> >>>> Roger >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >>>> >>>>> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will >>>>> be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >>>>> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> IGMP IPTV is something I waste
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
I'd like to have Syfy OTT, that's not an option yet, is it? On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > I get all my favorite pay channels on OTT now. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:52 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to > start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, > such as HBO. > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > >> Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have >> it. >> >> I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a >> series recording and find it later. >> >> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> >> Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? >> >> *From:* Roger Timmerman >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> >> Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your >> first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my >> Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple >> TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super >> remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video >> feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). >> While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of >> where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other >> interface. >> >> In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge >> advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing >> relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps >> Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) >> for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's >> about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, >> not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission >> agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far >> worse than dealing with the mafia. >> >> Roger >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < >> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>> >>> - Reply message - >>> From: "Roger Timmerman" >>> To: >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>> Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM >>> >>> We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 >>> partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. >>> However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other >>> OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a >>> much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I >>> think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network >>> channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty >>> sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out >>> if available in your area. >>> >>> Roger >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >>> >>>> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will >>>> be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >>>> >>>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >>>> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>>> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>>>> >>>>> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and >>>>> still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast >>>>> and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT >>>>> handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like >>>>> netflix >>>>> where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>>>>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider >>>>>> are you working with? >>>>>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>>>>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>>>>> some video with our higher tier package. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
I get all my favorite pay channels on OTT now.
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start
selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, such as
HBO.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, wrote:
Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have it.
I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a
series recording and find it later.
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what?
From: Roger Timmerman
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first
payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV
that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically,
you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the
interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for
each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a
DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you
can skip ads faster than any other interface.
In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage
over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with
YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet +
YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps
Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the
non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle
of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel
distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
wrote:
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ?
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Timmerman"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3
partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However,
Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system
I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user
interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take
the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought
my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube
TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area.
Roger
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be
able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again.
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and
still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and
needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle
packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it
goes to lower quality or buffers nicely.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote:
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs?
If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider
are you working with?
We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution.
Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and
some video with our higher tier package.
--
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, such as HBO. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have > it. > > I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a > series recording and find it later. > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? > > *From:* Roger Timmerman > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first > payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio > TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. > Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As > far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the > thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline > scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are > while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. > > In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge > advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing > relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps > Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) > for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's > about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, > not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission > agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far > worse than dealing with the mafia. > > Roger > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > >> >> What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> - Reply message - >> From: "Roger Timmerman" >> To: >> Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM >> >> We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 >> partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. >> However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other >> OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a >> much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I >> think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network >> channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty >> sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out >> if available in your area. >> >> Roger >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >> >>> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be >>> able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >>> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>>> >>>> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and >>>> still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast >>>> and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT >>>> handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix >>>> where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>>>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider >>>>> are you working with? >>>>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>>>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>>>> some video with our higher tier package. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have it. I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a series recording and find it later. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV
There were a few things it took me a while to find. For a guide of what's currently on click on the Live icon. For future stuff, best to just search for it. It takes some getting used to. I'm about a week in, and I really like it now that I'm used to it. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:16 PM, wrote: > Cannot find how you can view upcoming programs for a channel. It only > shows the next program, but so far cannot figure how to scroll forward and > record something in the future. > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:09 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the > plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of > the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found > it yet. I like the directv style of guide. > > *From:* Roger Timmerman > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first > payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio > TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. > Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As > far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the > thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline > scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are > while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. > > In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge > advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing > relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps > Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) > for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's > about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, > not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission > agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far > worse than dealing with the mafia. > > Roger > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > >> >> What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> - Reply message - >> From: "Roger Timmerman" >> To: >> Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM >> >> We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 >> partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. >> However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other >> OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a >> much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I >> think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network >> channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty >> sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out >> if available in your area. >> >> Roger >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >> >>> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be >>> able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >>> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>>> >>>> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and >>>> still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast >>>> and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT >>>> handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix >>>> where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>>>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider >>>>> are you working with? >>>>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>>>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>>>> some video with our higher tier package. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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Cannot find how you can view upcoming programs for a channel. It only shows the next program, but so far cannot figure how to scroll forward and record something in the future. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide. From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide. From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far as the interface being the best, it uses live video feeds as the thumbnail image for each live channel (this is super cool). While timeline scrubbing through a DVR'd show, it shows you a thumbnail of where you are while you scrub, so you can skip ads faster than any other interface. In our market (Utah), Fox News is very popular, so this is a huge advantage over SlingTV. Although we don't have an official marketing relationship with YoutubeTV, it essentially allows us to bundle 250Mbps Fiber Internet + YoutubeTV (local+network channels, 3 streams, 6 accounts) for $100/mo, or 1Gbps Fiber Internet plus YoutubeTV for $113/mo. That's about $30 less than the non-OTT offerings which also require set top boxes, not to mention the hassle of dealing with local broadcast retransmission agreements and network channel distribution rights agreements which is far worse than dealing with the mafia. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Roger Timmerman" > To: > Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM > > We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 > partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. > However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other > OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a > much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I > think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network > channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty > sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out > if available in your area. > > Roger > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > >> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be >> able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >> >>> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >>> >>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>> >>> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still >>> not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and >>> needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle >>> packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where >>> it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider >>>> are you working with? >>>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>>> some video with our higher tier package. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
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One of the problems you will see is that when using OTT, as it is defined by the carriers, is that some of the most important content is not now nor will it be available for at least the foreseeable future. OTT as they define it is available over the open internet similar to what Sling and Vue are doing. Getting OTT rights from stations who don’t even have those rights from the national networks, is a problem. Often national networks can’t provide it either because they don’t have it for some of the content (read NFL here). At Real Choice we decided that model was not the one we wanted to pursue. IPTV is different in that it is only provided over a closed network. It: 1. Is easier to control the quality of the delivery 2. Allows you to provide all the content (if you read the small print there are a number of programs that are blacked out for Vue, Sling, YouTubeTV and others). 3. Allows you to insert your own programming. 4. Provides an additional source of income. We can currently provide some programming OTT, and I believe over time that will grow, but our decision was to provide the content people wanted on a closed network and move to OTT as it was possible to do so. OTT providers decided to provide whatever content they could get OTT, and then go back and try to get the rights to add what people want. Different approaches to the same problem, with one important difference, those OTT providers will not give you a piece of the pie. Come to the session IPTV- To do or not to do, at Wispapalooza, we will have lots of good info for you there! Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. -- [cid:image005.jpg@01D33792.655AAAB0]
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It doesn't look like much of anything just yet Android based boxes for the most part it looks like. https://support.google.com/youtubetv/answer/7129767?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 2:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Roger Timmerman" > To: > Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM > > We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 > partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. > However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other > OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a > much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I > think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network > channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty > sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out > if available in your area. > > Roger > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > >> Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be >> able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming >> -Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: >> >>> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >>> >>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >>> >>> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still >>> not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and >>> needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle >>> packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where >>> it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider >>>> are you working with? >>>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>>> some video with our higher tier package. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
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What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much better user interface than anyone else. It is very promising. I think it is going to take the market for OTT (local broadcast and network channels) by storm. I thought my TabloTV + SlingTV solution was pretty sweet but now I am only using Youtube TV and Netflix. Worth checking out if available in your area. Roger On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be > able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. > > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20- > Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 > > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > >> IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. >> >> *From:* Chris Fabien >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >> >> We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still >> not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and >> needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle >> packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where >> it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: >> >>> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >>> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are >>> you working with? >>> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >>> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >>> some video with our higher tier package. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> >> > >
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Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV > > We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still > not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and > needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle > packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where > it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: > >> Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? >> If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are >> you working with? >> We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. >> Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and >> some video with our higher tier package. >> >> >> -- >> > >
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IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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There's not much investment to make those types of systems work (as opposed to DIY headends) so not a long term ROI problem. Linear TV will still have a significant presence for several years. 5 - 10 years at least. I like the quality capabilities of an on-net video solution, but anyone not looking at how to do OTT to phones, laptops, tablets, Rokus, etc. is doing themselves a disservice. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:27:49 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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No middleware necessary. Everything goes back to the server. Runs on Roku and Android devices. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Rory, Are you doing the whole middle ware thing and adding content to it? Or, are you doing something like I mentioned ? Thanks Dave On 09/27/2017 11:32 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: We will have a service announced shortly based on Viva Entertainment. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was getting going... the better technology is here already. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. -- [cid:image001.jpg@01D33777.5E12C280] -- [cid:image001.jpg@01D33777.5E12C280]
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We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it goes to lower quality or buffers nicely. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Dave wrote: > Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? > If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are > you working with? > We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. > Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some > video with our higher tier package. > > > -- >
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Rory, Are you doing the whole middle ware thing and adding content to it? Or, are you doing something like I mentioned ? Thanks Dave On 09/27/2017 11:32 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: We will have a service announced shortly based on Viva Entertainment. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was getting going... the better technology is here already. *From:*Josh Reynolds *Sent:*Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:27 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. -- --
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We will have a service announced shortly based on Viva Entertainment. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was getting going... the better technology is here already. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. -- [cid:image001.jpg@01D33773.7F610DB0]
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Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was getting going... the better technology is here already. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" wrote: Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" wrote: > Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? > If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are > you working with? > We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. > Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some > video with our higher tier package. > > > -- >
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I gave up once Directv Now, Playstation VUE and Sling TV hit the scene. From: Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
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You already do. Its called Netflix and HULU. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:08 AM Dave wrote: > Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? > If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are > you working with? > We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. > Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some > video with our higher tier package. > > > > -- >
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Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our higher tier package. --
